MSIE Security Updates 47
AnamanFan writes "Microsoft has released version 5.2.1 of Internet Explorer for Mac OS X. The only notes I have been able to find on the update is that it 'provides all the latest security and performance enhancements for Internet Explorer 5 for Mac OS X.' Be warned that the installer forces all other running applications to quit, but does not require a reboot and (seems) to not change your Internet browser settings, in case you're using another browser." Also released was MSIE 5.1.5 for Mac OS, which "resolves all security vulnerabilities in previous versions of Internet Explorer 5." Heh.
first post (Score:1)
All of them? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:All of them? (Score:4, Interesting)
Thank you MS (Score:1)
Re:Thank you MS (Score:1)
Tabbed browsing? (Score:1)
Re:Tabbed browsing? (Score:1)
A tab for each page appears at the top of the window. Easier to manage a bunch of open pages, IMO.
Re:Tabbed browsing? (Score:1)
Re: Where are these java plugins, anyway? (Score:1)
See http://www.mozilla.org/oji/MRJPluginCarbon.html
Re: Where are these java plugins, anyway? (Score:1)
You cannot play blitz (5-minute games) with them.
MZ
Re:The best browser is ... MSIE 5.1.5 --- WHY? (Score:1)
Re:The best browser is ... MSIE 5.1.5 --- WHY? (Score:1)
I don't find IE any more stable for yahoo chess. Yes, IE handles the scrolling properly, but in Mozilla that only affects the main window so that I can't reach the bottom chat line. This is no big deal to me. Both IE and Mozilla mysteriously hang from time to time. I'm guessing it's a threading bug on Yahoo's part that just happens to not surface under Windows. All the other windows are responsive except the one that's hung. It always happens during a drag.
Re:The best browser is ... MSIE 5.1.5 --- WHY? (Score:1)
I'm in a high-latency area so I thought it was my connection. I didn't realize the slowness was inherent.
And they crash after playing a few games.
They don't crash for me. When I don't run into the (I presume) thread deadlock, I can play for hours. The browser itself doesn't crash, though.
Re:The best browser is ... MSIE 5.1.5 --- WHY? (Score:1)
to do with Apple's recent software updates
(from early July).
If you try the classic IE, you will be
amazed how fast it responds. You can
move the pieces in real time without
that sluggishness present in Mozilla
or Omniweb. I do like the last two
browsers, but you just cannot play fast
chess with them.
MZ
But it's cashing worse than before... (Score:1)
I say wait and see!
Their last one wasn't that long ago either, so there's bound to be another one coming.
No IE for Me (Finally!) (Score:5, Informative)
Having spent most of the last year using IE under OSX (and suffering). When Mozilla 1.0 was released, I switched, and other than some minor stability issues I'm happy.
So, there's no longer a reason to use IE on the mac, and its reign should be at its end.
Requiring you to quit other applications is unacceptable for an application install, absolutely unacceptable.
As to security, I simply don't trust MS anymore. And I'm happy to be pretty much MS free.
PS- to anyone who thinks about running Entourage, it has a 2G mail limit. Their integer actually wraps at 2G so you reach that much mail (and it caches EVERYTHING- news, mail, images, even deleted stuff, so it doesn't take that long) and you're SOL. The app tries to open the file, then starts seeking at a negative index into it and crashes. Serves me right for using an MS product, forewarning to everyone else. (Yes, Mail.app crashed one too many times for me. Still looking for a good mail client.)
When there's no browser competition, IE was good. But now there's everything- Mozilla, Chimera (really promising), Opera, iCab, OmniWeb and probably other lesser known browsers. That's quite a selection with Mozilla being actually usable, Chimera coming quickly and Opera, iCab and OmniWeb being late "beta" quality. OmniWeb 4.1 might actually be usable, but its too early to say. (Usable to me is a browser that goes a week regularly without crashing, beta is one that can't.)
Re:No IE for Me (Finally!) (Score:1)
Re:No IE for Me (Finally!) (Score:3, Interesting)
I used to have problems with large mailboxes as well in Mail but now it is working quite well.
Why use IE? (Score:1)
Now, I use OmniWeb almost exclusively, retaining only an old copy of Netscape to handle to non-standard pages that standards-compliant OmniWeb chokes on. It works quite well for me.
By the way, I do not work for OmniGroup.
Wow. (Score:1, Interesting)
I was using Mozilla because it was faster, but now, it's IE that is faster.
I recommend it.
Too funny.... (Score:4, Funny)
This was a very plate-of-shrimp moment.
I was surfing this article in OSX IE 5.2 and since I have points I moderating a comment as "funny". When I clicked the "Moderate" button IE blow up on me and want away!
Ack - started returned to the article and it died on me again. Damn... that really sucks. Anyway - third times a charm. Or maybe iCab is the charm...
=tkk
PS All M$ sekurity updates should very clearly read "fixes all KNOWN security issues" - a very important detail.
Re:Too funny.... (Score:1)
Until Apple starts making it's own internet browser to package with OSX, don't bitch about Microsofts. I might add that if OSX IE is so unstable and buggy, why not use mozilla or netscape?
FEH!!!...Kinda... (Score:1)
How to install w/out restart (Score:1, Informative)
tell application "Install Internet Explorer"
DoAutoInstall
end tell
It will make you authenticate and agree to the license, but then it will just run the install. Afterwards, it will the take you back to the main page of the installer where you can just click "Quit".
Great, huh? Heard about it on the Mac OS X talk list [omnigroup.com].
Re:How to install w/out restart (Score:2)
> It will make you authenticate and agree to the
> license,
In light of some of the EULA tricks Microsoft has been pulling on the PC side lately with security updates, I would strongly suggest that people doing this install carefully read the license first. Some of Microsoft's new rights granted by these EULAs have been pretty scary: being able to automatically put anything on your computer that they feel like, having the ability to arbitrarily disable programs and data files, etc.
The alternative is to find another browser whose author(s) you feel you can trust not to try and take over your Mac.
"At this moment, it has control of systems all over the world.
And...we can't do a damn thing to stop it."
Miasaka, Godzilla 2000 Millenium (Japanese version)
Don't worry, Godzilla stopped it!
The reason for the installer (Score:2)
There was a lot of outrage on the mailing lists and version tracker as to why this version (including 5.2.0) of IE used an installer (and such an annoying one at that) rather than drag-and-drop. The response from Dan Crevier (below) over at MS shows that they're not a bunch of mindless dolts, and that we power users who hate installers over drag-and-drop need to remember that sometimes installers can actually be better for novices (if done right):
IMO, the ideal solution would be drag and drop, where running an old copy of the program quietly checked to see if a newer version was installed and took some 'appropriate' action if one was found. (Auto-update aliases? Probably bad for folks with multiple installs for testing purposes. Hrm...)
Re:The reason for the installer (Score:1)
Nonsense. With even barely adequate instructions (most drag and drop installs have instructions in the freakin' window background image), novice users are likely to drag the new version into /Applications, replacing the old one, and automatically updating the dock icon. Novice != stupid. Microsoft seems to think otherwise.
Just keep the files separate from the installer (Score:1)
Re:Just keep the files separate from the installer (Score:1)