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MSIE Security Updates 47

Posted by pudge from the except-for-the-ones-that-it-doesn't dept.
AnamanFan writes "Microsoft has released version 5.2.1 of Internet Explorer for Mac OS X. The only notes I have been able to find on the update is that it 'provides all the latest security and performance enhancements for Internet Explorer 5 for Mac OS X.' Be warned that the installer forces all other running applications to quit, but does not require a reboot and (seems) to not change your Internet browser settings, in case you're using another browser." Also released was MSIE 5.1.5 for Mac OS, which "resolves all security vulnerabilities in previous versions of Internet Explorer 5." Heh.
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  • All security issues? I guarantee that there are already holes to be found.

  • All of them? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 06, 2002 @03:45PM (#3834145)
    Are any of IE's 18 known vulnerabilities [jscript.dk] patched in this update?
  • For the security fixes. Now if only our feature requests were heeded - tabbed browsing, pop-up killers, ad blockers - in IE sounds good to me!

  • I haven;t installed it yet beause comments on sites like versiontracker.com are just killing IE. Most users are complaining that their browser is now crashing close to 2 or 3 times a day versus the previous once a month under the older version.

    I say wait and see! ;o)
    Their last one wasn't that long ago either, so there's bound to be another one coming.

  • No IE for Me (Finally!) (Score:5, Informative)

    by BitGeek ( 19506 ) on Saturday July 06, 2002 @06:38PM (#3834704) Homepage

    Having spent most of the last year using IE under OSX (and suffering). When Mozilla 1.0 was released, I switched, and other than some minor stability issues I'm happy.

    So, there's no longer a reason to use IE on the mac, and its reign should be at its end.

    Requiring you to quit other applications is unacceptable for an application install, absolutely unacceptable.

    As to security, I simply don't trust MS anymore. And I'm happy to be pretty much MS free.

    PS- to anyone who thinks about running Entourage, it has a 2G mail limit. Their integer actually wraps at 2G so you reach that much mail (and it caches EVERYTHING- news, mail, images, even deleted stuff, so it doesn't take that long) and you're SOL. The app tries to open the file, then starts seeking at a negative index into it and crashes. Serves me right for using an MS product, forewarning to everyone else. (Yes, Mail.app crashed one too many times for me. Still looking for a good mail client.)

    When there's no browser competition, IE was good. But now there's everything- Mozilla, Chimera (really promising), Opera, iCab, OmniWeb and probably other lesser known browsers. That's quite a selection with Mozilla being actually usable, Chimera coming quickly and Opera, iCab and OmniWeb being late "beta" quality. OmniWeb 4.1 might actually be usable, but its too early to say. (Usable to me is a browser that goes a week regularly without crashing, beta is one that can't.)

  • Internet Explorer has a track record of insecurity. I finally got fed up and deleted it.
    Now, I use OmniWeb almost exclusively, retaining only an old copy of Netscape to handle to non-standard pages that standards-compliant OmniWeb chokes on. It works quite well for me.
    By the way, I do not work for OmniGroup.

  • Wow. (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Ive just installed 5.1.5 for MacOs, and it's really faster than 5.1.4.

    I was using Mozilla because it was faster, but now, it's IE that is faster.

    I recommend it.

  • Too funny.... (Score:4, Funny)

    by HiredMan ( 5546 ) on Saturday July 06, 2002 @10:05PM (#3835435) Journal

    This was a very plate-of-shrimp moment.

    I was surfing this article in OSX IE 5.2 and since I have points I moderating a comment as "funny". When I clicked the "Moderate" button IE blow up on me and want away!

    Ack - started returned to the article and it died on me again. Damn... that really sucks. Anyway - third times a charm. Or maybe iCab is the charm...

    =tkk

    PS All M$ sekurity updates should very clearly read "fixes all KNOWN security issues" - a very important detail.
    • PS All M$ sekurity updates should very clearly read "fixes all KNOWN security issues" - a very important detail.

      Until Apple starts making it's own internet browser to package with OSX, don't bitch about Microsofts. I might add that if OSX IE is so unstable and buggy, why not use mozilla or netscape?

  • I updated to IE 5.2.1 and it promptly changed my homepage to MSN! However, they've improved text presentation so dramatically that I'm having to resist the instinct that it's the upshot of some M$ dirty trick.

  • How to install w/out restart (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward
    You can install IE without quitting your apps *or* restarting. Just run this AppleScript:

    tell application "Install Internet Explorer"
    DoAutoInstall
    end tell

    It will make you authenticate and agree to the license, but then it will just run the install. Afterwards, it will the take you back to the main page of the installer where you can just click "Quit".

    Great, huh? Heard about it on the Mac OS X talk list [omnigroup.com].
    • An AC wrote:

      > It will make you authenticate and agree to the
      > license,

      In light of some of the EULA tricks Microsoft has been pulling on the PC side lately with security updates, I would strongly suggest that people doing this install carefully read the license first. Some of Microsoft's new rights granted by these EULAs have been pretty scary: being able to automatically put anything on your computer that they feel like, having the ability to arbitrarily disable programs and data files, etc.

      The alternative is to find another browser whose author(s) you feel you can trust not to try and take over your Mac.

      "At this moment, it has control of systems all over the world.
      And...we can't do a damn thing to stop it."
      Miasaka, Godzilla 2000 Millenium (Japanese version)
      Don't worry, Godzilla stopped it!

  • There was a lot of outrage on the mailing lists and version tracker as to why this version (including 5.2.0) of IE used an installer (and such an annoying one at that) rather than drag-and-drop. The response from Dan Crevier (below) over at MS shows that they're not a bunch of mindless dolts, and that we power users who hate installers over drag-and-drop need to remember that sometimes installers can actually be better for novices (if done right):

    Novice users are likely to drag the new IE software somewhere on their machine but then click on the Dock icon to launch IE. Unfortunately, this will launch the old version. Users need to either install it over the old version or they have to update their Dock. We're still trying to figure out the best solution that's easy for novice users and not incredibly annoying for experienced users.

    IMO, the ideal solution would be drag and drop, where running an old copy of the program quietly checked to see if a newer version was installed and took some 'appropriate' action if one was found. (Auto-update aliases? Probably bad for folks with multiple installs for testing purposes. Hrm...)

    • Novice users are likely to drag the new IE software somewhere on their machine but then click on the Dock icon to launch IE. Unfortunately, this will launch the old version. Users need to either install it over the old version or they have to update their Dock. We're still trying to figure out the best solution that's easy for novice users and not incredibly annoying for experienced users.

      Nonsense. With even barely adequate instructions (most drag and drop installs have instructions in the freakin' window background image), novice users are likely to drag the new version into /Applications, replacing the old one, and automatically updating the dock icon. Novice != stupid. Microsoft seems to think otherwise.

    • It seems to me that an obvious solution to keep everybody happy would be to have an installer (as now) but keep the files separate from the installer application so that more knowledgeable users can drag & drop them as they wish. I.e. instead of supplying one executable which contains the actual IE files within itself (opaque = bad), make a disk image with an installer plus the IE files (transparency = good) - the installer would get the IE files in the same folder and do its stuff.

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