Apple Security Update Posted 57
patpro writes "Apple has just released a security update for Mac OS X. It includes Apache 1.3.23, OpenSSH 3.1p1, PHP 4.1.2, rsync 2.5.2, and sudo 1.6.5p2 (among other things). For the moment it's available only via the Software Update pane in System Preferences, but it should be available later at the Apple Downloads Page."
Re:/me is still wating for 10.2 (Score:1)
Re:Just as I predicted (Score:4, Insightful)
Ok, sure. I'll connect a Mac OS 9 box to the net and let's see if you can get in. =)
No, not 100% chance (Score:1)
Fast, but not Red Hat Fast (Score:3, Offtopic)
Other than that, these same updates were available from Red Hat between 2 and 4 weeks ago depending on the package. Apple could be a little faster on the uptake, especially with security patches.
This is constructive criticism, and nothing more.
Surely not fast enough in fact... (Score:2, Informative)
the FreeBSD-SN-02:01 Security Notice reads this :
Port name: rsync
Affected: versions < rsync-2.5.4
Status: Fixed.
Incorrect group privilege handling, zlib double-free bug.
URL:http://online.securityfocus.com/bid/428
URL:http://www.rsync.org/
so what ? is MacOSX immune to the "Incorrect group privilege handling" bug of rsync < 2.5.4 or does Apple just released a buggy sec. update ? This bug appears to be known for 3 weeks now...
Re:Surely not fast enough in fact... (Score:1)
Anyway, even if it Mac OS wasn't immune, did it occur to you that Apple might have patched the version of rsync?
Simon
Re:Fast, but not Red Hat Fast (Score:4, Insightful)
I think a majority of OS X users like, or at least don't mind, the interaction. I don't want the software update to download or install packages without asking. Even if Apple did want to make this an option, why would they move to this third-party update product, instead of just adding a checkbox "Download and install updates automatically" to the existing app?
I'm not sure here what is different about what they have in OS X now. One can both pick, as well as choose, the updates one wishes to install. One can also disable a package that is not needed so that the updater doesn't ask about it again.
mark
Re:Fast, but not Red Hat Fast (Score:2)
To be honest, I like both methods. The Apple version just seems a little too inflexible (AFAIK, again, not much fiddling with it yet). With Apple, I can check daily, weekly or monthly, but at what time? When I boot up? When the system is idle? Midnight? 4 AM? It's a small quibble at best, but I like that flexibility. As to which packages to install, Red Hat's (seems) to let me pick and choose more, which is not to say that Apple doesn't let me choose at all, just not enough (for me).
OTOH, none of my Macs have ever really had good access to cron, which OS X has. So I should really just count my blessings and stop bitching because it's not everything I want it to be one year after introduction. 8)
I'd like a command-line accessible fortune, though. All the versions I've found so far are GUI.
Re:Fast, but not Red Hat Fast (Score:2)
If they thought it was really good, I'm sure Apple would have no qualms about even licensing it (look at SoundJam -> iTunes for example). However, I think that Apple wanted the application to work the way it does. I also would see benefit in an "Advanced Options" section on the software update, where I could set the time update checks are run, and possibly also auto-install options. It just seems like they could easily just add these tiny features on with very little effort (which is why I thought they didn't need to use a 3rd-party app).
The average Mac user doesn't want to be bothered with these details, though, and for that reason I think the interface should at least default to the way it is.
I think most Mac users are complaining that they want things to go in the other direction-- that is, many say "Great, I have access to all these Unix apps, but that's worthless to me because they don't have a GUI!"
But things seem to be coming together more and more all the time.
mark
Re: (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Fast, but not Red Hat Fast (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Fast, but not Red Hat Fast (Score:1)
Re:Fast, but not Red Hat Fast (Score:1)
I'd rather see them look at debian's apt-get.
It's already available via fink [sf.net] for accessing ported unix software, why not make it the official system update mechanism too?
And, as another post mentions below, rh's up2date has that nasty account requirement, which nobody is a big fan of. Why do we need a profile on their server? Why not create a local profile, and let the client request the stuff it wants? WHY?
I long for the day that apt-get is the standard package management tool accross unices.
PHP Module Replaced (Score:5, Informative)
This update will replace the current PHP module you have installed.
Many people use a version of the Apache PHP module compiled for OS X by Marc Liyanage that has PDF/Postgres/curl/gd, etc. enabled, rather than the stock Apple installed module.
After applying the update, you will need to reinstall the Liyanage module. It only takes 3 minutes. The instructions and download are located here:
http://www.entropy.ch/software/macosx/php/ [entropy.ch]
Re:PHP Module Replaced (Score:2)
Re:PHP Module Replaced (Score:1)
In general, that's good advice. However, the module in question was updated to 4.1.2 one day after the hole was made public (February 27, 2002).
It's taken Apple over a month to provide the same fix.
FYI, the actual issue is the PHP file upload security hole. For more details see:
http://security.e-matters.de/advisories/012002.htm l [e-matters.de]
Update bombed on my B&W G3 running 10.1.3 (Score:1)
This one bombed though. It downloaded, and then I got a message saying that none of the patches had been installed due to "an error".
The system console was no more explicit. There were reports of problems on Macnn.com as well.
Has anyone installed it successfully on their system?
Ted
Re:Update bombed on my B&W G3 running 10.1.3 (Score:2)
Yes, I have. There's not much to say, it was a completely ordinary install for me.
I haven't altered the default config for any of the items updated, so maybe that is a factor?
mark
Re:Update bombed on my B&W G3 running 10.1.3 (Score:1)
I've changed a lot of the configs, so I really don't think that has much to do with it.
The only thing the installer didn't do was restart Apache, but that's fine because it gave me an opportunity to be graceful
Re:Update bombed on my B&W G3 running 10.1.3 (Score:1)
Ted
No reboot required! (Score:2, Informative)
Re:damn troll (Score:1, Offtopic)
Bill Gates, named his company after his Penis.
Re:Microsoft Update (Score:1, Flamebait)
Cinema Tools $999
iMovie 2 $999
iDVD $999
Final Cut Pro $999
Do you think they all have identical developement costs and therefore are all priced the same or do you think Apple might be ripping you off?
Apple recomended additional software:
Adobe After Effects $1999
They are certainly ripping you off with their hardware cost:
At least $2500 for a slow [heise.de] G4. At least wait for this [theinquirer.net] to get some decent hardware at a fair price.
And what can you use this for? Home movies, low budget porn and local commercials. You see, you can only burn an hour of video using iDVD. Apple is trying to make you think you are shooting video just like the pros, just like they are trying to make you think that that pricey toy you have is a real computer. And they have you fooled. To the tune of $10,000.
A fool and his money are soon parted. By the way, to me $10,000 is a Beowulf cluster with 50 CPUs, just like Pixar uses, Steve Jobs' other company.
Go pout or LOG IN to respond you bitch assed coward.
Re:Microsoft Update (Score:1)
imovie comes with a $799 imac.
idvd comes with a $1300 imac.
all the pro stuff is just that, pro stuff
so, yeah, apple charges pro prices for pro soft, and gives the consumer stuff away for free. what a fucking surprise.
Re:Microsoft Update (Score:2)
Re:Microsoft Update (Score:1)
Actually my "inexpencive aftermarket" [sic] $49 512 MB PC133 RAM works just fine in my G4 with all the latest firmware updates.
And your point was?
NEXT! ;-)
Re:Microsoft Update (Score:2)
PC66 Cas 222 is the same as PC100 cas 333. Except for minor architectural changes in reguards to reporting it's speed to the bios.
PC100 cas 222 is Identicle to PC133 cas 333.
PC133 cas 222 can be run as PC150 cas 333.
PC150 cas 222 can be run at PC166 cas 333.
You have been kept in the dark about your hardware. If Apple hardware was in any way tweakable, you would understand how much crap you have been fed. Is your G4 a 100mhz fsb version or a 133mhz fsb version?
Re:Microsoft Update (Score:1)
All but the first two G4s (the Yikes!, which was a G3 MB and the Sawtooth both had 100 MHz busses) have 133 MHz system busses and use PC133 RAM. I have a "Digital Audio" G4, with a 133 MHz bus. It wont run on PC100 no matter what the cas rating is. Some chips from dealers are mislabeled also and this is where the firmware problems arose. The firmware was catching PC100 RAM labeled as 133.
I know about hardware, do you think because I use Macs I haven't had any experience building computers? I rebuild Macs and PCs all the time. I have 12 Macs and several PCs I built. Not every one has the bargan basement mentality that a lot of PC users have. Sometimes cheap is just junk.
Also you are over simplifying the RAM issues, and RAM is not always interchangeable. The Apple firmware update only disabled RAM that was not up to spec. Some of this RAM could be reprogramed to spec, but did not leave the factory that way. Apple doesn't expect people to buy memory from them, they only expect people to use qualified parts. I always buy the cheapest memory I can find and never have any problems. But I dont buy junk either. There is a difference. I also don't try to put PC100 DIMMs in where it calls for PC133. What's the point? Some memory controllers are fussier than others. Try and put out-of-spec RAM in a SUN or SGI for instance!
Aaaarrgh! Why now? (Score:1)
Re:Aaaarrgh! Why now? (Score:2)
~/library/preferences/com.apple.SWUpdateEngine.pl
Open SSL Version Mismatch (Score:2)
When I try running SSH, I get
OpenSSL version mismatch. Built against 90581f, you have 90602f
So how do I get 90581f, or whatever I actually need?
Thanks for any help.
D
Re:Open SSL Version Mismatch (Score:2, Informative)
Run "which ssh" and see what it tells you. If it says "/usr/local/bin/ssh", you may want to remove that copy of ssh so that it uses Apple's version (/usr/bin/ssh).
Re:Open SSL Version Mismatch (Score:2)
Many thanks.
D