Apple @ MacWorld Tokyo 454
rschroeder writes "Apple updated several products at MacWorld Tokyo tonight (or tomorrow morning). A $499 10-gig iPod, with, get this, custom laser engraving on the back, ($49 extra) and vCard support. They also announced a $49 USB bluetooth module, shipping in April, with beta drivers availble today. Among other tricks, Jobs synced a Clie with a mac via bluetooth. Also a new 23" (1920x1200 )Cinema Display. Jobs also said they're raising the price of the iMac due to LCD and RAM cost increases. All this courtesy MacMinute.com's live coverage." Maccentral has several stories about Jobs' keynote at the convention.
Monitor envy (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Monitor envy (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Monitor envy (Score:2)
Little wonder you're drooling at the Apple display!
Re:Monitor envy (Score:2)
If you're a HD freak, check out Samsung's upcoming 241MP, which will support composite inputs as well, and includes a TV tuner. It's HDTV compatible. Pricing will be around $7000.
Re:Monitor envy (Score:2)
Re:Monitor envy (Score:2)
really, the issue is finding a card that supports better than 1600x1200 via dvi.
there's another korean company which makes a monitor very similar to the 240T (same glass, different electronics, pivot but no remote) from a company called wide [wideusa.com].
this also is a 1900x1200 native lcd with multiple inputs. i think they still bundle a geforce2mx that does 1900x1200 via dvi.
Re:Monitor envy (Score:2)
save $150 on not having to buy a converter to use
with your PC.
Note: You can get the Apple 23" for $3,289 if you're a student.
Re:Monitor envy (Score:2)
BTW, the ViewSonic's 1600*1200 resolution doesn't stack up to the apple. That 300*1200 extra pixels is another 20% more resolution.
Re:C# (Score:2)
ViewSonic has had a 23" 1600x1200 LCD out for a few months now for ~$3500, so Apple was bested slightly already. (Even now, the Viewsonic has a larger screen -- 23" widescreen isn't as big as 23" 4:3 -- but the Apple is higher-res.)
Re:Monitor envy (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Monitor envy (Score:2, Funny)
I like people with too much money. Both Apple and myself are targetting Hollywood. It's one of the few demographics where riches and low education meet.(the others are lottery winners, but they tend to bankrupt themselves on gold plated trailers).
Hugs and kisses,
L. Ron Hubbard
Re:Monitor envy (Score:4, Informative)
As it is, I'll be saving my pennies, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if I buy one with my next Mac, later this year.
That's how much I love using high-resolution displays.
I currently have a SGI 1600SW display, which is the same resolution as the Cinema Display, but smaller. Even with this 1600x1024 display, I run out of screen real estate with painful ease. Increasing it to 1900x1200 would really help me. A lot.
I think almost anyone involved in video, especially with Final Cut Pro's screen-gobbling new features, would feel the same.
D
Re:Monitor envy (Score:2)
It's not just video editing.. I do website development and recently got a Mac with a 22" Cinema Display and I know I'm way more productive with it. I have a 17" LCD plugged into the secondary VGA port running at 1280x1024 so I have an effective 2880x1024 desktop.
Nothing will enhance your computing experience more than a SHITLOAD of screen real estate.
Re:Monitor envy (Score:3, Interesting)
I've been editing video for months now on my 1600SW and haven't had any problems with it at all. It works great for me.
What's wonderful about LCDs is that they have much sharper text, and it remains sharp throughout the life of the unit. CRTs start reasonably sharp, but degrade over time.
When I replaced my 19" Sony with the 1600SW, I couldn't believe how much crisper and sharper it was.
Since most of us spend a ton of time entering and editing text, that's a huge advantage for the LCD. The lack of flicker is also great for the eyes.
If you got the bucks, buy a LCD. That's still my advice.
D
Re:get real (Score:3, Insightful)
So, with 1/3 the life expectancy, Buying THREE for every one CRT, Where are your cost of ownership numbers now?
You do not own a cinema display. You have absolutly no idea what it costs to own one.
Info on the new iPod software (Score:5, Informative)
Contacts: The way this works is that when you upgrade to 1.1, you get a top-level folder on the iPod named "Contacts". Drop .vcf files in there, and you're off. Cute, but since I have my Palm all the time, it's less useful to me.
Equalizer: Can't comment since I haven't set it for any songs.
Now Playing: Pressing the center button when playing a song no longer switches between elapsed time and time remaining. The normal display now shows both. If you press the button, you get the diamond-in-the-rectangle of iTunes, and you can use the dial to shuttle backwards and forwards. Trés cool.
Shuffle: You can now choose between shuffling between songs or between albums. I'm not quite sure what that means.
Bugs fixed: The bug where pausing and then unpausing would land you somewhere totally else appears to be fixed. Another bug where the iPod would cut songs off at the end is also fixed. Alas, the one that prevents "Dvorak" (with the accent over the r) from displaying properly is still present.
Easter Egg: It's still there, in the Legal section off the Settings main item.
And of course, more languages that I don't understand.
Avi
Re:Info on the new iPod software (Score:5, Funny)
Allow me to clarify. Shuffling between songs would take all your songs and play them in random order.
Shuffling albums would take all your albums and play them in random order. So, Album2, Album4,Alubum3..etc...
Re:Info on the new iPod software (Score:2)
Look in Settings->EQ. It now allows you to change the setting on the fly, whereas with the old firmware you had to set the EQ for songs with iTunes. You get to choose from a menu with such names as "Bass Booster," "Latin," "Deep," and "Pop." OK, but I would have liked a little graphic showing me what each setting did
Another change: the backlight timer can be set for 10 sec (previous max was 5 sec.)
sounds fair (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:sounds fair (Score:3, Insightful)
Having to raise prices is truly ridiculous. It just hurts apple even more in the last 9 months of this year as the x86 folks keep pushing the mhz gap higher, and thus the apple/x86 price comparison keep getting worse for apple.
Re:sounds fair (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:sounds fair (Score:3)
Build a PC yourself for $500...
See the difference now?
I'm in the black. And I didn't raise the barrier to entry on my product more than the cost of a new computer.
Re:sounds fair (Score:3, Funny)
I wouldn't hire you to work help desk phones.
Re:sounds fair (Score:2, Funny)
:)
Re:sounds fair (Score:3, Funny)
> I love you apple zealots. Apple addicts is the closest thing to a secular
> cult I have ever seen.
>
> Um wait I take that back, apple addicts think Steve Jobs is god.
The beautiful, protecting, heroic, wonder-working deity Mothra is the great Goddess that resurrected Apple from the dead (and parted the Pacific for good measure).
Toho is her prophet.
Steve Jobs is her servant and messenger.
Apple is her champion to put right the wrongs of Microsoft, the RIAA, and the MPAA.
Homage to King Shisa (mistranslated as Seesar or Caesar),
Guardian of Okinawa and Friend of the Mac,
on the occasion of his 38th birthday.
("Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla" 1974, "Mothra 2" 1997)
Not yet mastered. (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Not yet mastered. (Score:3, Informative)
While I agree that the high end computers are more fun and interesting (from a marketing/sales perspective). The lower cost machines are what is going to make money.
Not sure I agree with you. While I may be wrong, the G4 towers probably make more money for Apple (per unit) than anything. I doubt if they make much of anything on the iMac. It's probably just more of a maintaining market share thing, keeping it a viable platform so software gets released for Macs.
I could be totally wrong, I haven't looked at any numbers, but my gut tells me that the $3500 dual processor G4 tower and the Cinema Display carries a much larger margin for Apple. Not sure how the total sales of these units factors in.
Oh well... I can't afford any of it. I wish I could.
Re:Not yet mastered. (Score:3, Informative)
I think these price increases was so they could maintain the 20% margin. Otherwise their shareholders get pretty upset.
I'm not sure what the margin on the new Cinema Display is, but the only people who will buy it are seriously rich hobbyists and seriously professional graphic artists and motion graphics/video editing people. That's a rich audience, but the whole market for that thing is a few thousand people.
At least they undercut Sun, who is charging $4,500 (versus $3,500) for what looks like almost the same thing.
Sun beat them to market, though.
D
Re:Not yet mastered. (Score:4, Insightful)
Exactly what aapl [yahoo.com] are you looking at. Apple may not hold the record for market share but when it comes to making a profit Apple holds her own. One of the great things about Apple is they have so much in the bank that they can afford to take a risk here and there. The reason the price went up: their research suggests people will pay more. This is not a desperate act. And I doubt anybody in the market will interpret this as a desperate act either.
Re:Not yet mastered. (Score:3, Insightful)
Consoles have better specifications. Apples are toys.
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Numbers do not tell the whole story.
I am a Java developer who has been looking for years for the perfect development environment from which to work on. Since I got my G4 I have without a doubt never been happier. I don't have to fuck with endless config files like I did on Linux, and yet I can use all the *nix tools I got used to. Windows made me want to choke: it was functional, but I prefer not to deal with Microsoft products if I can help it. Compared to OS X it is *Windows* that is the toy.
My G4 has helped me to do my job better. I can assure you it is *not* a toy, at least no more or less so than any other general purpose PC.
Is there a list somewhere... (Score:2)
Re:Is there a list somewhere... (Score:3, Informative)
the prices goes UP? (Score:3, Insightful)
More importantly, who is buying these things?!?
Wouldn't a more rational plan be to drop the iPod to $299 and sell this new version for $399? (which is what it's going for now)
$500 seems like an AWFUL lot of money for a product with a 90 day warranty.
Re:the prices goes UP? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:the prices goes UP? (Score:2)
Oh really? Here's a link to the Smardisk Firefly [smartdisk.com], a small portable drive with the same mechanism. It sells for $199, and you can be sure Apple is getting them for way less than that in bulk.
Re:the prices goes UP? (Score:5, Insightful)
The real reason the 5GB iPod is still $400 is that people are still buying it. If Apple was having trouble selling them, the price would have dropped to $350 or $300. They are still hot, and there is still no comparable MP3 player on the market, period. Size, capacity, battery life, and firewire. No other MP3 player matches the iPod in all 4 of those categories. Until one does, Apple can charge what they damn well please. That is the free market at work.
Re:the prices goes UP? (Score:4, Insightful)
I personally would not pay $500 for this device, but since its selling, many people will. Why question it, you either can't afford it, or don't see value in that product for that price. If you want it cheaper, asking Apple won't hurt though...
Re:the prices goes UP? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:the prices goes UP? (Score:2)
One more thing... (Score:4, Informative)
Also, the Bluetooth update won't be avaliable for download till April (this from Apple's site).
iMac prices up $100 (Score:2, Informative)
Also, The Mac Observer has a nice blow by blow [macobserver.com] of Steve's keynote.
Otherwise, cool stuff!
Re:iMac prices up $100 (Score:2)
"Rapidly increasing component costs is an industry-wide issue right now. Since the new iMac's launch in January, memory costs have tripled and flat-panel costs have increased twenty-five percent, with little relief in sight,"
I know memory prices have increased a little but tripled? I guess Apple can't just come out and say "We priced the new iMac too low so in order to obtain maximum profitability we are going to raise the price"
Re:iMac prices up $100 (Score:2)
It's just too bad that this will hinder adoption, because this really is a great computer, even without all the awesome bells/whistles. This is what computing should be. Well... Maybe not exactly, but it's cute.
--Dan
Bluetooth, iPod improvements. (Score:4, Interesting)
Now if only they had bluetooth support for the iPod, I'd be happy about not having to connect it up to the PC every time I wanted to transfer a file.
Having played with an iPod before and found that the sound is a bit try, the EQ is a welcome addition and was the one thing that didn't convince me to buy one over a NetMD-based walkman. Contact management is just damn cool, evidence that Apple listens to the community out there (remember that iPod contact hack?). Good work, Apple
Re:Bluetooth, iPod improvements. (Score:3)
I guess if you had some sort of queing method in place to automatically upload files if you were near that would rock.
The other thing no one seems to mention. Bluetooth seems to gobble a lot of power when running in discovery mode. Yes I know it isn't comparable to 802.11 but when it cuts the standby time on a phone from well over a week to a couple of days it is a pretty big hit.
Now I can get... (Score:5, Funny)
http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,50688,00.h
custom laser engraving? (Score:4, Funny)
"It's the one that says 'Bad Mother Fucker'"
proof of concept (Score:3, Funny)
Keynote Video? (Score:2)
Price Breaks for Students (Score:4, Informative)
Example: 5 GB iPod: $369 (Normally $399)
10 GB iPod: $469. (Normally $499)
Hey, $30 off isn't too bad. Just trying to get the word out.
Re:Price Breaks for Students (Score:3, Funny)
Example: 5 GB iPod: $369 (Normally $399)
10 GB iPod: $469. (Normally $499)
Not that I'm complaining (being in the education industry myself). It just makes me wonder, what possible academic value does an iPod have? If none, then what's the point of academic pricing again? Not that I'm complaining, mind you (me want bargain!)
Re:Price Breaks for Students (Score:2)
Re:Price Breaks for Students (Score:2, Informative)
Music students typically carry around a load of CDs and DAT with current songs they are trying to learn, or pieces they are studying. Putting all of that on an iPod would make it easier (and is faster than transferring to tape or burning a CD). The iPod is also a 5 or 10 gig hard drive, which has similar academic value as a Zip drive.
Music students that need to listen to music... (Score:3, Interesting)
Now when she gets new listening assignments, she hops into the library, rips the CDs, syncs the iPod, and she's set. If she really likes the music, she makes a copy of the CD to go in the CD Jukebox in our apartment so she can listen to the higher quality recording.
Now she doesn't mind the 30-45 minute subway rides that she does getting around town because she just turns on her iPod and the music is waitting for her.
Could this be done with non-Apple equipment, sure. However, the two hours of helping her adjust from being a Windows user to a Mac user made up for it from reduced tech support on my end... As I type away on my Windows machine whose copy of Internet Explorer couldn't use view source last week...
Alex
Price Breaks for Everybody!!! (Score:3, Informative)
5GB iPod (refurbished) for $339 from store.apple.com (Click on "Special Deals"). Comes with the same 90 day warranty as a new iPod.
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BlueTooth (Score:5, Insightful)
PPA, the girl next door.
mod +1 Insightful (Score:2)
Re:BlueTooth (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:BlueTooth (Score:3, Funny)
Or maybe it is just that they figure people won't buy a whole new computer just to get it? I expect future Apple products will build the BT module in (unless there is basically zero demand).
Well that and if you put a Blue Tooth antenna inside a TiBook I bet it has a range of about 3 inches :-)
Macworld Tokyo 2002 Info (Score:2, Informative)
There is also a thread [macrumors.com] at Macrumors on the event.
Those wanting to watch the keynote are out of luck because there are no plans to broadcast it this year, like they have done in the past.
Some Good Articles (Score:2, Informative)
Alan Smithee??? (Score:5, Funny)
So it's a little worrying to see who they reference (via graphic [apple.com]) as the iPod project manager on the story [apple.com] link.
:)
Re:Alan Smithee??? (Score:2)
Whats up with that 4 score... kharma whore! hehe
Did Apple steal it? (Score:4, Interesting)
I'm curious as to whether Apple went to the developers, and bought the idea/software. I know they did this for SoundJam [soundjam.com], in order to get iTunes. They literally bought out every SoundJam developer, and took the software.
I also know this is how the "time in the title bar" idea got started. 3rd party software, bought by Apple. Any facts surrounding this acquisition?
Re:Did Apple steal it? (Score:2)
Re:Did Apple steal it? (Score:3, Interesting)
From what I can tell, this upgrade lets the iPod recognize the vCard format and puts a visible folder on the iPod called "Contacts". Any vCards in that folder show up in the "Contacts" menu on the iPod. Simple as that, and much simpler than turning your contacts into silent MP3s.
The iPod apparantly has a pretty nifty OS with 2 ARM processors and 32MB of flash in it. It is probably capable of a lot of things (OGG support, perhaps). Don't expect Apple to come out with a dev kit for it anytime soon, though. I'm sure Apple does not want to have to support 3rd party software, and I think it is unlikely anybody would create a "killer app" for the iPod, other than the "killer app" that it already has. Most likely you would only see a few games.
Re:Did Apple steal it? (Score:2, Informative)
I did some research, and it turns out Apple implimented the contact feature much better than anyone else has previously. The other poster was correct to say that it now runs off of vCards. Very cool.
Also, to reply to what someone else said. The new iPods (and all the old ones updated by the new iPod firmware [versiontracker.com]) can indeed support Ogg Vorbis. Very cool!
I'll tell you what I would really like on an iPod (Score:3, Interesting)
Mp3s are just too lossy for my liking. I could still fit a few losslessly compressed albums on a 5 or 10 gig iPod, which is fine by me! Anything to keep from bringing a battery-draining CD player and loads of discs.
Anyone know if that kind of hack is even possible? If it was, I'd buy one in a second.
Re:I'll tell you what I would really like on an iP (Score:2)
iPod will play uncompressed AIFF files (Score:3, Informative)
iPod specs [apple.com]
-pmb
Re:I'll tell you what I would really like on an iP (Score:2)
regarding price increases (Score:2, Informative)
RAM pricing (Score:5, Insightful)
Things have changed. Micron (Boise, Idaho) is taking over the industry. They bought Toshiba's DRAM business, they bought TI's business, they bought KMT's business, and are negotiating to buy Hynex, which is in trouble. They and Samsung are in a race for the #1 spot now; if the the Hynex deal goes through, Micron will be far bigger than Samsung in DRAM.
In 2001, there was a huge DRAM glut, which pushed prices down. Micron, instead of cutting back, used its advantage as the lowest-cost producer to squeeze out the weaker players. Here's an overview of the industry. [siliconstrategies.com]
It looks like that when the dust settles, Micron will have about 40% market share, Samsung (S. Korea) about 22%, Elpdata (Japan) somewhere under 20%, and minor players the rest. The era of brutal competition in DRAM may be ending. The number of players is much smaller now. We may see more "stability" in DRAM pricing.
What's on my mind is... (Score:3, Insightful)
Newer ipods and bigger cinema displays are great, but MacOS X is vastly more important. Guess the transition period needs to be lengthened now.
Re:What's on my mind is... (Score:4, Informative)
The transition was completed at MacWorld in January when all Macs started shipping with Mac OS X as default. What else is needed to complete the transition?
Good Apple spin lately (Score:4, Interesting)
I used to be a Mac slammer. Nothing made me quite as happy as slamming indignant Mac die hards, unless it was slamming brainless Microsoft Bots. That was before Steve Jobs came back to apple. Then I started watching them with interest.
Now, after all these good stories lately, about the ipod, imovies, OS X and its unix environment, I have to say someone slipped me some of the Mac coolaide.
I want one! I want one now! Damn! And I'm happy about it too!
Gimme a mac!
Feed Forward? (Score:2)
Every iPod has custom engraving already (Score:5, Informative)
Kinda cool, kinda unnoticed.
AirPort vs Bluetooth (Score:5, Interesting)
So, with Apple leading the renaissance in wireless networking (it was their introduction of the AirPort that kicked of this current wave of activity) how will they reconcile this with Bluetooth? All of their computers ship with wireless card slots and built-in antennas; they all also ship with USB ports (also popularized by Apple.) Which is to drown out the other? While it's true that they can co-exist it is at the expense of greatly reduced data rates, already an issue for folks used to 100 Mbps or 1,000 Mbps (standard on many Mac models) Ethernet.
My own bet is that before or along-with any USB-BlueTooth product introduction Apple will ship a revised AirPort, or at least a software tweak with a built in Bluetooth-friendly autonegotiation. Or, failing that we'll see the release of an AirPort II featuring 802.11a (at 5 GHz and capable of 54 Mbps) thus safely different from cordless phones, microwave ovens, baby monitors, 802.11b, 802.11g, Bluetooth, HomeRF, and a half dozen other wireless applications.
As to microwave ovens - well 2.4 Ghz is the resonant frequency of water so no change possible there. However it is something to think about as you hold these various new wireless devices up next to your body.
Re:MacWorld Tokyo (Score:2)
Re:More expensive Mac hardware (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:More expensive Mac hardware (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:More expensive Mac hardware (Score:4, Funny)
Re:More expensive Mac hardware (Score:3, Insightful)
And how much do you value your time?
I'm amazed at how many people will "save" themselves a few hundred bucks when buying a PC, only to waste months of their own time and effort on keeping it working.
But then again, those $400 MSN "rebates" were a bit hit too. Suckers.
-pmb
Re:No MacWorld Expo in Canada? (Score:2)
Levies apply only to blank iPods (Score:2)
Imagine the new iPod announcement there: US$599 gets you a 0-gig iPod, a $100 expense voucher for driving to the US border, and a $100 budget to buy a 10-gig drive there.
The proposed CA$21/GB levy applies only to recording devices on which no sounds have ever been fixed. Apple could just cut a deal with Vivendi to put an MP3.com sampler on each unit before shipping it.
Re:Clie sync? (Score:2, Informative)
http://www.apple.com/macosx/applications/palm/ [apple.com]
The release notes for Palm Desktop for Mac OS X said the Clie was supported, and I can synch my Handspring via USB just fine. There are also a lot of conduits available or in progress on the page.
Get The Missing Sync (Score:2)
Re:PC vs. Mac (Score:3, Insightful)
I do. The LCD production has not kept up with the demand (because people love the iMac, you see), so the manufacturer raised the cost of the LCDs. Ergo, price of iMac went up.
It's not exactly a secret.
The price will go down eventually, when supply meets demand. It happened with LCD displays for cell phones a few years back.
Re:PC vs. Mac (Score:3, Insightful)
The new iMac is only a little more expensive than previous iMac price points, but you're getting tons more for your money.
D
D'ohhh - Correct URL! (Score:2)
Try here [everythingunix.org] instead.
Re:Apple Needs to Re-Design all Laptop Motherboard (Score:3, Funny)
Perceived value of "overpriced apples" (Score:5, Insightful)
$2,000 got you the machine you could afford -the one that you could use Office and Quicken on, play most middle-of the road games, and if you were willing to wait a long time, dabble in graphic design and multimedia.
Now the machine you really want still costs $4,000, but the machine you can afford is down to $1,500, and it does far more than even the best home computers did just two or three years ago.
The fact that there are $500 commodity PC boxes available is nice, but does that mean that the $1,500 iMac no longer has value to the person who purchases it?
It seems to me that rather than comparing the prices of PC and Mac CPUs and peripherals, we ought to be comparing overall value to the consumer - i.e., is this machine doing everything I want it to do, for a price that I find worthwhile?
If you love your Mac, but you don't love PCs, there must be more perceived value in the Mac for you. If that's the case, isn't it intrinsically worth more to you than a less expensive PC?
Re:over priced apples (Score:2, Insightful)
$24 t-shirts, $50 jeans, does Abercrombie & Fitch only cater to the super rich?
Yes. Take your broke ass to American Eagle (Dell).
You either get it or you don't. You either "get" paying more for the end-to-end experience, or you buy some cheap knockoff down the way. You may have something similar, but you don't have the original, nor will it ever be the original, nor will all the complaining that the original costs more, or your knockoff performs the same function make your cheap knockoff the original.
Get over it.
Re:over priced apples (Score:4, Interesting)
To fairly evaluate the price Apple is charging, why not compare more equivalent hardware? I priced out a IBM ThinkPad T23 vs. an Apple PowerBook a few days ago. The high end T23 sports a 1.2 GHz Pentium THREE processor, 256MB RAM, 60GB HDD, 14.1 inch display,10/100 Mb networking, and 16MB video RAM. The cost on IBM's web store is $3,599.00
The high end Apple PowerBook "ultimate" model has a 667 MHz G4 processor, 1 GB of RAM, 48 GB HDD, 16 MB video RAM, Gigabit networking, wireless networking and a 15.2 inch display). It retails for $3,699.00.
Feature-wise, my personal opinion is that the PowerBook is more "loaded" than the ThinkPad. However, the cost difference between the two is less than 3%.
Looks to me like the Apple price is very competitive.
Likewise, if you look at the extra $100 Apple announced as an increase in the price of iMacs, you still get a great system for the cost. Sure, you can find "cheapo" PC boxes for less, but you get less computer as well. Apple doesn't market "discount" computers. Just because the iMac is the lowest end system Apple makes you shouldn't compare it to the lowest end PC available. The two are in different classes. Compare the iMac to a comparably-built PC and I think you'll find that Apple's prices remain quite attractive.
Re:who cares about contacts - use vcf (Score:2, Informative)
And it's a heck of a lot easier and more elegant than setting up mp3 tags.
begin:vcard
version:3.0
fn:To Do List
title:1) Write Perl Script\n2) Write
end:vcard
Voila.
All You need is... (Score:2)
BlackGriffen
Re:23" Cinema Display is not the largest available (Score:2)
PPA, the girl next door.
Re:Why the added vCard support? (Score:3, Insightful)