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Apple and Samsung Agree To Drop Cases Outside the US 46

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mrspoonsi writes Apple and Samsung have agreed to withdraw all legal cases against each other outside the United States. The two rivals have sued each other over a range of patent disputes in nine countries outside the US, including the UK, South Korea, Japan and Germany. A joint statement said the agreement "does not involve any licensing arrangements", and they would continue to pursue existing cases in US courts. The two firms are the biggest players in the smartphone and tablet PC market. But they have been involved in a bitter legal battle, spread across various countries, which has escalated in recent years.
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Apple and Samsung Agree To Drop Cases Outside the US

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    So, what is the reason for this? Is the risk that other courts will find the patents invalid and thereby making neither of them the winner too high?

    • by Anonymous Coward

      You should remember that while the US market is big, both the European and the Asian markets are larger.
      This makes the US market a relatively "safe" ground to test the waters. Sure, it sucks if you are locked out from that market but it doesn't cripple you as much as being locked out from the other markets would do.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Now they can announce the downsizing of their legal departments. Watch their stock prices climb...

  • by rossdee (243626)

    Airlines do that all the time

  • by sandytaru (1158959) on Thursday August 07, 2014 @07:51AM (#47621779) Journal
    And legal battles across international borders means international lawyers, which means more and more money. I'm surprised they didn't also keep up the fight in Korea, though - assuming they had any fights going on there at all.
    • by tlhIngan (30335) <.slashdot. .at. .worf.net.> on Thursday August 07, 2014 @10:13AM (#47622785)

      And legal battles across international borders means international lawyers, which means more and more money. I'm surprised they didn't also keep up the fight in Korea, though - assuming they had any fights going on there at all.

      That's because Samsung lost. Yes, they lost on their home turf.

      In fact, Samsung internationally hasn't been on the winning side - they've instead been stirring up shitstorms of controversy. Because what patents Samsung does assert are ones under FRAND, and it's lead to many a jurisdiction doing inquiries about asserting FRAND patents in this fashion, including the EU and Korea.

      It's more a truce than anything - especially since both Apple and Samsung realize that they're really just wasting a lot of time. Samsung's the world's #1 manufacturer of smartphones by a long shot, and they're seeing a huge slowdown, and Apple's partnership with TSMC means Samsung's semiconductor division is hurting as well since Apple can multi-source the most important parts.

      I'm sure the US side would be dropped fairly quickly if not for the fact that they're coming to an end as well - let it complete and then announce a truce as well.

      Company relationships are complex. Samsung, Apple, Microsoft, Google - you can bet that despite being competitors in areas, they have many, many cooperative agreements and even sales between them. Apple vs. Google is just a fanboy fight - Google and Apple compete far less and cooperate far more than you think. Even Samsung and Apple cooperate far more.

      The truth is very messy, and not only is it never black and white, it's far more grey than you would believe. Anytime you see a real disagreement in the media it's almost always just a PR fight - behind the scenes they're still hugging and kissing each other.

      • European courts have invalidated Apple's slide-to-unlock patent because Neonode had a precedent. No wonder Apple is not interested in continuing to fight it in EU courts.

      • by Solandri (704621)

        In fact, Samsung internationally hasn't been on the winning side - they've instead been stirring up shitstorms of controversy. Because what patents Samsung does assert are ones under FRAND, and it's lead to many a jurisdiction doing inquiries about asserting FRAND patents in this fashion, including the EU and Korea.

        That's actually the bigger problem with everything that's been going on that supersedes Apple and Samsung. The total market value of a FRAND patent must exceed the total market value of a non-F

  • This agreement definitely favors Apple since the U.S. cases still proceed where Apple's has the advantage of strong support for their software patents as well as home court advantage. I can't help but wonder why Samsung would agree to this, especially the part about dropping the case in their home country.
    • Re:Win For Apple (Score:5, Insightful)

      by andydread (758754) on Thursday August 07, 2014 @08:39AM (#47622083)
      THat advantage with software patents has now diminished due to the the recent supreme court ruling. Things like slide to unlock will probably be found invalid and samsung is currently challenging that as a result of the recent supreme court ruling.
    • I can't help but wonder why Samsung would agree to this

      Take a look at Samsung's recent financial results. Especially mobile. They're tanking. They probably want to save money.

  • Smartwatch patents (Score:4, Interesting)

    by monkeyhybrid (1677192) on Thursday August 07, 2014 @07:54AM (#47621799)

    Apple is rumoured to be introducing its iWatch later this year and Samsung has already released several models of smart watch over the last few months or so. I'm sure both parties will now be armed to the teeth with patents applicable to the other's watches, and the potential patent disputes between them likely more even sided than we've seen with phones and tablets. It makes very good sense for both parties to come to an agreement now so they can each concentrate on the coming shitstorm of fitness patents that will rear their head from all directions before long.

  • Why only Apple and Samsung are fighting each other over patents? Why do they not come after LG, Motorola, Nokia, Microsoft, Sony etc?

    • by cdrudge (68377)

      Marketshares. All the manufacturers not named Apple or Samsung combined don't add up to the market share of Apple or Samsung. The big guys could go after the little guys for something most likely, it's just not worth the time/money (if it hasn't already been licensed in some manner).

      • But aren't they weakening their patent portfolio by not suing the other companies? By not suing something that LG does that apple has patent when Samsung eventually does the same thing won't they be able to say: "but LG has been doing this without your permission for a long time, why haven't you sued them?"

    • Microsoft and Apple have had a wide ranging cross-licensing agreement since like forever. Most of the others have no profits to sue for.

    • Because Apple already sued Nokia, HTC, and Motorola? Microsoft has gone after a couple of them as well.

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