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New Zealand Frontline Police Get Apple Devices in Efficiency Measure 114

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from the spend-money-to-save-money dept.
mask.of.sanity writes "Thousands of New Zealand frontline police will be armed with smartphones and tablets from this year in an efficiency initiative that the force hopes will save millions of dollars. NZ Police say the devices are Apple iPhones and iPads. These will be password protected and can be wiped remotely if lost. Police declined to say if the devices and their communications will be encrypted."
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New Zealand Frontline Police Get Apple Devices in Efficiency Measure

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    nice SPOF Apple is setting up, hack Apple and get the keys to every castle in every land !

    • Re: (Score:1, Interesting)

      by david.emery (127135)

      And how is this different from the zillions of successful hacks against the dominant Windows world for laptops, or Android world for smartphones? Both of those platforms, widely used, have been successfully hacked.

      Seems to me the absence of successful hacks against iOS (given the millions of iPhones/iPads out there) is in many respects prima-facie evidence that it's actualy a hard (harder) platform to hack. The same argument, but with lesser market share, can be made for Mac OS X products.

      dave

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 13, 2013 @10:13AM (#42883637)

    By buying a ton of most expensive hardware you can find.... brilliant.

    • Re: (Score:1, Interesting)

      by david.emery (127135)

      It's all about the software, including iOS security (see my previous post on this thread.) And the Apple hardware isn't that much more expensive -for similar devices-.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        It has nothing to do with security. They want a consistent product across the board. If they were still using Windows XP laptops mounted on an arm in the car like 95% of police departments in the US have, they could have the same level of data security relatively cheap if they wanted it. They may or may not have chosen to make them secure but that was their own bueacracy at work.

    • by Big Hairy Ian (1155547) on Wednesday February 13, 2013 @10:36AM (#42883887)
      And by equipping front-line personnel with the most fragile peice of telecommunications equipment in the world!
      • by gstoddart (321705)

        And by equipping front-line personnel with the most fragile peice of telecommunications equipment in the world!

        I'm assuming they'd put them into something like an Otter Box [otterbox.com] -- which should pretty much make them ruggedized enough.

      • And by equipping front-line personnel with the most fragile peice of telecommunications equipment in the world!

        Have they changed their mind and went with the Samsung Galaxy S III? https://www.google.com/search?rls=en&q=iphone+5+drop+test [google.com]

    • by crazyjj (2598719) * on Wednesday February 13, 2013 @11:11AM (#42884385)

      Every time some school teachers or government workers in the U.S. want the latest tech toy, they pull that same "It will save money, improve efficiency, improve the quality of our work" shit too. I've yet to see it ever do ANY of those things. Not even once.

      At least private industry can just say "We're giving it to our workers as a personal perk" and be honest about it.

      • I did some work for my local school where my wife teaches and can back that up 100%. They all want the latest toys, and make whatever excuses they need to get them, but at the end of the day they are a net loss. Yeah there is some productivity gain some of the time, but the time lost because they don't work properly, have software issues, flat battery, lost/misplaced, dropped, broken, or are simply prevented from using them because of policy far, far outweighs the good. Right now my wife can't print anythin
  • in getting the details that lead to link "efficiency", "police" and "Apple products".
    • Depends on what they had before ... if the answer is "radios" (and no computers of any kind) then it's fairly obvious how joining the 21st century could help them. Or if - like our locals here - they were still driving around with large 19" monitors in their patrol cars and the hardware to drive such a monitor (both power and data) ... that's fairly obvious too. All depends on what they were using before.

      • by gbjbaanb (229885)

        you;d be surprised at the requirements of the cop on the street. He doesn't really want a flash and fragile device so that management can send him emails and reports and forms. He wants a radio that he can use "percussively assist" in the apprehension of criminals, and not have to take his eyes off the surrounding area to use. See, most cops want to watch the suspect as they radio in for a check, they do not want to swipe away pressing buttons and using a tiny keyboard with their fat gloved fingers, while t

    • Do you really really know what an Internet troll [wikipedia.org] is?
      C'mon!
  • Encryption (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 13, 2013 @10:32AM (#42883855)

    "Police declined to say if the devices and their communications will be encrypted."

    In other words, they aren't. Otherwise, which reason would the police to not tell?

    • by tnk1 (899206)

      If I was a betting man, I'd agree with you, but when it comes to security procedures, even if there is encryption, I see no reason to detail the security arrangements to the public unless I had to.

    • Like radio traffic.

    • In other words, they aren't. Otherwise, which reason would the police to not tell?

      It's not the police declining to say, it's the ignorant article writers declining to research.

      All recent Apple iOS devices are encrypted by default. That's how the remote wipe works quickly, it just tosses the key for the whole device.

      The communications being encrypted is the more important issue.

  • by Grayhand (2610049) on Wednesday February 13, 2013 @10:35AM (#42883877)
    "frontline police will be armed with smartphones and tablets "

    I'm sure it'd hurt like hell getting hit in the head by an iPhone a cop threw but wouldn't it be cheaper to arm them with pointed sticks?

    • by JustOK (667959) on Wednesday February 13, 2013 @10:59AM (#42884213) Journal

      They have to use sticks with rounded corners now.

      • They have to use sticks with rounded corners now.

        They have to send their sticks to Apple, then buy them back as iSticks. They're the same sticks, but they're not allowed to use them without paying Apple first.

      • They have to use sticks with rounded corners now.

        Yeah, they call them "baton".

    • by Cow Jones (615566)

      wouldn't it be cheaper to arm them with pointed sticks?

      Pointed sticks? Ho, ho, ho. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you, eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of Apple products, don't come crying to me!
      Now, the passion fruit.

  • hrmmm.. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by LodCrappo (705968) on Wednesday February 13, 2013 @10:39AM (#42883939) Homepage

    So they will "save millions of dollars" by spending how much exactly? I'm sure it adds up if you use the new math.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      It's never about saving money compared to history, it's about saving money compared to a strawman.

      I did violate standards and skim the article, but it looks like 4.3 million Zealandbucks of toys that will allegedly allow them to cut hours to their staff and (not counting the original buy in) achieve a 12 year net savings of ~140 million Zealandbucks.

      I expect the NZcops will continue to use exactly as much billable time as they have now.

  • by dywolf (2673597) on Wednesday February 13, 2013 @10:42AM (#42883969)

    I've got an angry bird and I'm not afraid to use him!

  • Here in Philadelphia they spent millions on a new radio system (Motorola?) only to have it not work. If this allows for better and more consistent communication for their PD, then I hope it works. I like Apple products, but I'd be happy to see it succeed with whichever ecosystem worked. Plus without having to establish, manage, maintain the (radio) system it runs on, I can see it saving money regardless of how much iDevices may cost.
    • Those sorts of contracts should be done in a phased rollout where they pay a bit then roll out some stuff and test it and then pay for it. There's no reason to be locked in for millions for a system that doesn't work.

      • But that's how the NZ government works, they are already trapped in a decade long contract for a web based payroll system for teachers that still fails abysmally after 6 years of development and 6 months of use.

  • Vodafone is the mobile network provider of choice for NZ Police and will also supply the force with the devices in a decade-long deal, with the initial three-month rollout costing NZ$4.3 million (A$2.75 million). Officers will use two specific apps — eQuip for access to the Police National Intelligence Application for information on people, vehicles and locations, and Mobile Responder (pdf), which provides maps of where staff and colleagues are — as well as standard office type programs such as
    • Good grief, after wading through all the virulent apple-haterism we find really practical reasons why they went with iOS devices all the way down here at the bottom - software, and the fact that the full range of iOS devices come with cellular data support.

      It probably doesn't hurt that they also have a wider range of choices for durable protective cases.

  • Maps? (Score:4, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 13, 2013 @10:55AM (#42884149)

    Let's hope they don't need the maps [slashdot.org] feature!

  • New Zealand police outfits changing to black turtlenecks and jeans in cost saving measure. Chief quoted saying traditional black with warm/cold weather turtlenecks and rugged jeans are an ideal pair. New Zealand police now driving Porsches as cost saving measure. Chief quoted saying they can cover twice the distance in half the time. New Zealand police adding all-aluminum ships to coastal fleet. Chief quoted saying this is actually a terrible idea... New Zealand police now recognize Opposite Day as of
  • Are the police going to start writing like teens? What of the problems of autocorrect?
  • The same thing is happening in the aviation world-- most aircrews are required to carry around several thick, heavy binders around with them all the time, and always keep them up to date by pulling and replacing a bunch of pages every month or two. I'd guess your average pubs bag weighs 30-40 pounds, depending on the aircraft and crew position. iPads are becoming common as a replacement.

    This is the sort of thing a tablet is perfect for-- content consumption. In an otterbox it's plenty durable, the batter
  • Using a foreign Australian newspaper for a New Zealand story is about the same as using a Mexican newspaper to report on an issue in the U.S.

    The New Zealand newspaper of record is the New Zealnd Herald which carried this story 3 weeks agao (when it was topical) - http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10776556 [nzherald.co.nz]

    Oh! and sweet as bro.

    • by Bismillah (993337)
      The writer of the ITnews piece is a New Zealander and the Herald story you refer to is more than a year old and has none of the current information.
  • I can't even imagine how bad they will be when they all have iTrinkets and think they are even more superior and untouchable.

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