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Pirated iOS App Store Site Shuts Down 432

Posted by timothy
from the another-reason-to-stick-with-free-software dept.
SternisheFan writes with this excerpt from CNET: "Installous, a major portal for pirated paid apps from Apple's App Store, won't be around anymore. Development team Hackulous today announced the closure of Installous on their official Web site. As of today, the pirated app store no longer works, and only shows these errors: 'Outdated version. Installous will now terminate' or 'API Error. API unavailable.' For many years, Installous offered complete access to thousands of paid iOS apps for free for anyone with a jailbroken iPhone, iPad, and iPod Touch. Think of it as being able to walk into a fancy department store, steal anything you want, and never get caught."
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Pirated iOS App Store Site Shuts Down

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  • by alen (225700) on Tuesday January 01, 2013 @10:22AM (#42441149)

    Stealing $.99 games is clearly a right

    • by hsmith (818216) on Tuesday January 01, 2013 @10:27AM (#42441181)
      $500 phone

      $100 a month service charges

      Yet, you can't afford $0.99 software, lol
  • by Sam H (3979) <sam@zoy.org> on Tuesday January 01, 2013 @10:24AM (#42441161) Homepage

    Think of it as being able to walk into a fancy department store, steal anything you want, and never get caught.

    Oh wow, the piracy / physical theft analogy. Looks like the first Slashdot troll of the year!

    • by houghi (78078) on Tuesday January 01, 2013 @11:21AM (#42441529)

      OTOH I wish Piracy and Theft were the same. You could kill a guy while stealing a CD and you will be better off then when RIAA gets after you.

    • by Stoutlimb (143245) on Tuesday January 01, 2013 @11:51AM (#42441773)

      It's almost like walking into a library and reading any book you want.

  • Cost of Apps (Score:5, Insightful)

    by timmyf2371 (586051) on Tuesday January 01, 2013 @10:25AM (#42441173)
    I've never understood the desire to pirate apps iOS (or Android/WP) apps. If I'm paying over £500 for the device, then logic dictates that I have enough disposable income to pay the going rate for apps, particularly when most of the popular apps start at the ridiculously low price of 69p. Many of these are published by independent developers or small software firms, where every sale counts.

    And seriously, who is so cheap that they would refuse to pay 69p for whatever game is popular at the moment?
    • by Runaway1956 (1322357) on Tuesday January 01, 2013 @10:43AM (#42441283) Homepage Journal

      I thought these were jailbroken devices. As in, probably not new. Like, the neighbor upgraded, and unloaded his device for cheap. Or, maybe it was stolen. Or, it was found on the side of the road, and repaired. Or, it was bought as a present, and the recipient simply doesn't have any money with which to buy apps.

      Just because someone has an iDevice, doesn't mean he paid upwards of a thousand dollars for it.

    • by Megane (129182) on Tuesday January 01, 2013 @10:53AM (#42441347) Homepage
      Back about ten years or so, a sort-of acquaintance was a compulsive video downloader. He had CD booklets full of downloaded .AVI Hollywood movies burned to CD-Rs. It was apparent to me that while he downloaded a great quantity of these, he was too busy doing anything else to actually watch more than a few of them. (Well, of course, since most of what comes out of Hollywood IS crap.) So, yeah, there are people who will pirate something, use it once or twice (if that much), then forget it, other than as a badge on a Download Scouts sash.
    • Re:Cost of Apps (Score:4, Insightful)

      by flonker (526111) on Tuesday January 01, 2013 @11:12AM (#42441457)

      Much of it comes from the frustration of purchasing an app only to find out within the first few seconds of using it that it was a waste of money. (I was thinking specifically about business and productivity apps, but it applies to games and entertainment as well.)

      • by BasilBrush (643681) on Tuesday January 01, 2013 @12:23PM (#42441993)

        As with any purchase, you're a fool if you don't look at reviews before you buy.

        • by am 2k (217885) on Tuesday January 01, 2013 @01:04PM (#42442239) Homepage

          The reviews in Apple's App Store are horrible. There's no way for developers to respond to anything or even know who wrote that review, and people don't realize that (asking questions in reviews and giving one star because they don't get a reaction). Most reviews seem to be written by people who have an axe to grind or don't get the product at all. People who use the app regularly usually don't write reviews (why bother?). If the developer throws up an alert asking nicely for reviews, the result is that a lot of people who are fine with the app itself leave negative ratings because they're bothered with this nag screen.

          So, basically you're a fool if you bother with the reviews on Apple's App Store.

          (Maybe you can tell that I'm an app developer who has software on there)

          • by BasilBrush (643681) on Tuesday January 01, 2013 @01:22PM (#42442351)

            I'm also an app developer with apps on there. And I don't recognise your description. Before Apple limited reviews to only the people who'd actually purchased the app, the review system was hopelessly broken. But not now.

            Sure, it's frustrating as a developer not to be able to respond to misguided reviews. But think about what it would be like if developers could respond... the review section would turn into a comments section. And we know from elsewhere on the internet how hateful they can become.

            The proper way for a developer to respond is not to justify himself in an answer, but to improve the software, or the description of it. e.g. If a reviewer marks down because he thinks the app can't do something when it can, then the response to that is to find a way to make that functionality more discoverable.

            App reviews are not broken. If you look at the best software, you'll see the reviews are vastly dominated by 4 & 5 stars. Sure you'll get some misguided or just plain stupid reviewers, but their 1 star reviews will be bashed into insignificance by the good reviews.

            I always read App Store reviews before I buy. And I find they don't steer me wrong.

            But one final note: when I said read reviews, I didn't limit it to app store reviews. If the app costs more than the minimum, or I have any doubts, then I check out reviews by googling too.

        • by devleopard (317515) on Tuesday January 01, 2013 @01:08PM (#42442265) Homepage

          Should be true of cars and clothes, no?

    • Re:Cost of Apps (Score:3, Interesting)

      by PsychoSlashDot (207849) on Tuesday January 01, 2013 @11:16AM (#42441495)

      I've never understood the desire to pirate apps iOS (or Android/WP) apps. If I'm paying over £500 for the device, then logic dictates that I have enough disposable income to pay the going rate for apps.

      One: one of the ways people with disposable income stay that way is by being circumspect about when and where they dispose of said income.

      Two: most mobile apps are crap. They either don't work (for the purpose they are desired for) or work poorly, or the purpose turns out to be pointless. Many of those don't have demos available. Piracy provides a try-before-you-buy avenue. Sure, not everyone buys, even if they like the app. But there's still a "legit" reason to want to circumvent the payment system.

      Three: Not everything is worth the asking price to everyone. There are apps that a user plans on using extremely rarely for instance. Paying full price for something you might use once a year may not be justified. Sure, you could just do without (that's the legal, strictly honorable way) but if you're in that category, you don't represent a lost sale. Having the pirate version for extreme rare use does nobody harm.

      Personally I know I've done #2 a couple times, for $10-$20 utilities. Most of the time the tool doesn't work as I need it to so it gets removed within a couple days. The rest of the time, the creator gets a sale. I may even have one program present Just In Case that I can't justify paying for. If my needs change and it becomes useful to me, I'll direct cash to the creator but for now it's just dead code sitting in a folder, benefiting nobody.

    • by esquizoide (834082) on Tuesday January 01, 2013 @11:56AM (#42441803)
      You cannot resale an app.
  • by Meneth (872868) on Tuesday January 01, 2013 @11:50AM (#42441765)
    This shows, once again, the folly of depending on centralized systems to manage the free flow of information. To spell it out: The operators are few, and human, and will therefore behave unpredictably, resulting in situations such as this shutdown.
  • by Joe_Dragon (2206452) on Tuesday January 01, 2013 @01:01PM (#42442219)

    we need 3rd party app stores not ones with Pirated apps but ones with say Content that is banded on other app stores, one that offer lower costs to dev's, one that let you have open-source software on them, ones with out API locks.

    You can get firefox on Android but not on windows phone or ios.

  • by davydagger (2566757) on Tuesday January 01, 2013 @01:45PM (#42442517)
    "Think of it as being able to walk into a fancy department store, steal anything you want, and never get caught"

    Thye figure if they keep using this analogy long enough, they will just hammer it intos

    downloading a "pirate app" is not the same as stealing something from a department store.

    Its the same as instead of buying something from a knockoff store, buying a rip off from china town.

    I say, in return for this horrible misuse of the english language we associate the crimes of embezzlement, graft, corporate theft, theft by deception, false advertising, and illegally obtaining patents with rape and child molestation.
  • by tuppe666 (904118) on Tuesday January 01, 2013 @01:47PM (#42442545)

    Its clear that Apple users do not want a walled garden, or limited to Apple store...or even that Apple does not have privacy, When an Apple developer attacked users recently, by naming and shaming them through their twitter posts, he also claimed a 75% piracy rate.

  • by Trilkin (2042026) on Tuesday January 01, 2013 @02:58PM (#42443283)

    Apptrackr is. Apptrackr shut down which made Installous pointless since that was the repository that Installous pulled from. As far as I understand they are/were owned by different people, but in either case, it's a case of Apptrackr being gone and the frontend made for it being useless.

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