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Riot Breaks Out At Foxconn 456

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Presto Vivace writes with news (as reported by Engadget) of a riot at Foxconn's Taiyuan plant, reportedly over guards beating up a worker, and writes "Something is going on at Foxconn. Do any Slashdotters know of a good source for news about Chinese labor disputes?" Reports of the riot are also at Reuters, TUAW, and CNBC, to name a few.
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Riot Breaks Out At Foxconn

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  • Srsly? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ugen (93902) on Sunday September 23, 2012 @11:11PM (#41433003)

    Yes, and slashdot readers are a great source of news from Chinese sweatshop plants because demographics are, like, so close.

  • Labor disputes (Score:5, Insightful)

    by girlintraining (1395911) on Sunday September 23, 2012 @11:14PM (#41433017)

    "Something is going on at Foxconn. Do any Slashdotters know of a good source for news about Chinese labor disputes?"

    This is China. There won't be any news.

  • Who cares? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by AntiBasic (83586) on Sunday September 23, 2012 @11:15PM (#41433021)

    Who cares? I'm sitting in a coffee shop sipping on fairtrade coffee on blogging on my retina macbook pro about Obama and talking on my new iphone 5.

    Scumbag western liberals: claims to support the working class, gladly buys products from a communist dictatorship with an abysmal human rights record

  • Re:Strange (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Yvanhoe (564877) on Sunday September 23, 2012 @11:24PM (#41433079) Journal
    I wish there were a +1 Frightening moderation option
  • Re:Labor disputes (Score:3, Insightful)

    by pokoteng (2729771) on Sunday September 23, 2012 @11:29PM (#41433113)

    The fact that this news like this actually got out is news in itself.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 23, 2012 @11:31PM (#41433133)

    No one really cares what's happening at foxcon. This is not news or of importance.

  • by Alex Belits (437) * on Sunday September 23, 2012 @11:39PM (#41433187) Homepage

    Do any Slashdotters know of a good source for news about Chinese labor disputes?

    I am sure, Foxconn, Apple, CIA, Chinese Communist Party and Dalai Lama have plenty to say about those things. Or, by "good" you mean something that is not pure spin? Then no.

  • Re:Who cares? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by SwedishPenguin (1035756) on Sunday September 23, 2012 @11:45PM (#41433229)

    This has nothing to do with a "communist dictatorship" (though it should be noted that China is about as far from communism as can be), it has everything to do with companies in the wealthy part of the world using workers in poorer parts of the world as virtual slave labor. It is the epitome of capitalism, for owners to make as much money as possible simply by virtue of already having a lot of it, while paying their workers as little as they can possibly get away with.

  • Re:Who cares? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by artor3 (1344997) on Sunday September 23, 2012 @11:45PM (#41433233)

    You need to stop basing your views on sitcom caricatures.

  • But I thought... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Tough Love (215404) on Sunday September 23, 2012 @11:46PM (#41433235)

    But I thought Apple told us they made it all right and everything is good at Foxconn. We can believe what Apple tells us, can't we?

  • Reports differ (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Kohath (38547) on Monday September 24, 2012 @12:14AM (#41433393)

    The guys at wehateapple.com are saying it's the worst thing in history and that Apple will finally get what's coming to them for all teh evils. But the guys at appleisgreat.com are saying it's no big deal and stuff like this happens all the time.

    Meanwhile, the guys at mindyourownbusiness.com don't have a report about it at all, but they do have some good reports that seem relevant to my own life. At mindsomeoneelsesbusiness.com, they're extremely interested in whether African tribes that make their own beer are at a greater risk for gout from too much yeast and they think it's the fault of the US government for some reason.

    At newsfornerds.com, they're just trolling for clicks, so they put up a story with no information to get Apple haters and Apple fanboys sniping at each other. Later, they'll be posting stories about evolution, Mitt Romney's failure to announce any female cabinet members, an ask newsfornerds.com question about whether Dragon Age 3 will be more heterosexual-friendly than Dragon Age 2, and a statement from RMS about how the government should stop paying school teachers because they should be sharing their knowledge for free.

  • by istartedi (132515) on Monday September 24, 2012 @12:25AM (#41433455) Journal

    If the Chinese aren't careful, they're going to have a communist revolution on their hands.

    Sorry, I might have trotted that one out before; but it has fit so perfectly the past decade or so.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 24, 2012 @12:29AM (#41433473)

    Note that the police actually showed up to this. The police didn't show up to protect the Japanese-branded businesses last week.

  • Re:How Much (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Aryden (1872756) on Monday September 24, 2012 @12:58AM (#41433617)
    also the huge issue with the fact that China has the largest piles of rare earth minerals that are commonly used in electronic components. Getting them to export them, which they have already banned in some cases, to us so that we can take jobs out of their economy would be tantamount to declaring war on them.
  • Re:How Much (Score:5, Insightful)

    by shadowofwind (1209890) on Monday September 24, 2012 @01:11AM (#41433671)

    Equipment costs have always dwarfed manufacturing labor costs in the IC industry. Government subsidized fab construction is a major reason it moved to Asia. And other production like assembling phones is cheaper closer to where the components are made.

  • Re:Labor disputes (Score:4, Insightful)

    by unixisc (2429386) on Monday September 24, 2012 @03:10AM (#41434035)
    Looks like China needs a Communist government. Such things would then be ended. Oh, wait....
  • Re:Labor disputes (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Opportunist (166417) on Monday September 24, 2012 @05:08AM (#41434427)

    It would be an improvement over their fascist government.

    Just because someone labels himself one thing doesn't make it so. Allegedly, the US is a republic, you see?

  • by Macthorpe (960048) on Monday September 24, 2012 @05:30AM (#41434527) Journal

    Yeah, all your examples are from 2010, and from cursory glance, they're all resolved. Also you included at least one link to errors that were appearing in Google Places, not Google Maps.

    You might think it's unfair that we're judging a map that's been out for less than a month to one that's been out for years, but if you're going to release a new product it's going to be compared to what is currently available. The fact is, there are too many errors in obvious stuff - misspelled capital cities, duplications of entire islands, famous landmarks with incorrect coastlines. It's a complete abandonment of the philosophy of "It Just Works".

  • Re:Strange (Score:5, Insightful)

    by yuje (1892616) on Monday September 24, 2012 @05:38AM (#41434573)

    Yes, after years of development, the Reality Distortion Field is now available on iOS apps!

  • by SuperKendall (25149) on Monday September 24, 2012 @05:47AM (#41434609)

    Really, that touchy? It is one of the most common premises of humor - you have a case of obvious issues with/focus on "X", that makes room for funny exaggerations

    Humor is usually based on truth. There is nothing true about that image. The whole feed until that images has been humor based on truth.

    If you start mixing in fabrications you are polluting all the real examples of issues. Are they all humorously real problems? No-one can tell any more. And it's simply less funny to boot.

    yeah, I guess you can claim that most jokes are 'outright fabrication

    No. Again, most humor is based on exaggerations with some core truth.

  • Re: (Score:4, Insightful)

    by erroneus (253617) on Monday September 24, 2012 @06:02AM (#41434651) Homepage

    Guards are "workers" too by many definitions. A fight among workers can easily be spin from "clash between guards and assembly workers."

    Lots of spin going on here. That a simple fight can turn into a riot? With cars turned over? Doubting it. Most such fights are simply watched by people as a form of entertainment. But when the dispute is something close to the observers' hearts (such as working conditions and abuses) others joining in and working together is natural.

  • by Pax681 (1002592) on Monday September 24, 2012 @06:47AM (#41434779)
    SuperKendall..... blatant shill, no sense of humour
    now you are accusing others of doing what you are doing.... pot and fucking kettle...
    yeah i am probably gonna burn some karma here.. but meh, you just keep digging yer own hole. the apple maps fiasco is the joke of the day, weeze of the week and other words i could have taken out of Holly from Red Drawf's mouth during the end of the "Queeg" episode
    Apple maps are just utterly shit, and no amount of excuses or shill nonsense can cover it. A simple, fact is that Google maps are a far more superior and mature product. You don't have to be a shill to see that fact and no matter how much you try, you are only going to look an even bigger dick for trying to.
  • by Canazza (1428553) on Monday September 24, 2012 @06:59AM (#41434841)

    Humor is usually based on truth.

    Based on, but not necessarily true.

    There is nothing true about that image.

    Except, ofcourse, as an exaggeration of the other issues that Apple's map software currently has.

    The whole feed until that images has been humor based on truth.

    No, the whole feed until that image has been Humorous Truths. Now we have a Humorous Exaggeration.
    And, as sibling post said, pull the stick out your arse and laugh once and a while.

  • Re:Who cares? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by realityimpaired (1668397) on Monday September 24, 2012 @07:06AM (#41434879)

    They are the shining example of capitalism.... and the poster child for why neither unfettered communism nor unfettered capitalism is a system that works.

  • by dkleinsc (563838) on Monday September 24, 2012 @07:50AM (#41435139) Homepage

    Venezuela is neither a communist state nor a dictatorship: Under the elected government of Hugo Chavez, it has engaged in some redistribution policies to help the extremely poor, but that's not the same has having a state-planned economy with Five Year Plans or people getting sent to the gulag for political reasons or Great Leaps Forward.

    Also, if we're going to allow references to bad things that have happened in the history of a country, the US has to own up to, since the 1930's alone, Japanese-American internment, Jim Crow and the many lynchings that came out of that, the repeated acts of aggression against foreign countries (many of whom present little-to-no threat against the US, like Grenada), overthrowing democratically elected governments and replacing them with brutal dictatorships (Iran and Chile being the most important examples), and occasional acts of putting down political protests with force (e.g. Kent State, Chicago '67, Occupy Wall St). Communist governments often do really bad things. The US government also often does really bad things. I'm in favor of condemning governments when they commit obvious moral evils, regardless of who they are, but thinking that "my government is always good, and their government is always evil" is not a useful or correct position to take.

  • Re:Who cares? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Bill_the_Engineer (772575) on Monday September 24, 2012 @08:30AM (#41435349)

    Do you have even a single example of someone being arrested for trying to form a Union? Oh, none? Awesome.

    You only asked for one example, so here you go: 23 people arrested for protesting against being fired for trying to form a union. [sott.net] I could find more examples, but you only asked for one.

    A single example of a US citizen being arrested for the way they look and not having papers?

    How about for the way they look even though they have papers? [brownsvilleherald.com].

    If you really think the situation here is even remotely similar to there, then you are clearly very clueless. Go travel. See the world. Come back when you've acquired a clue.

    I have. It's amazing people still think we're #1.

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