Apple WWDC: iOS 5, Lion, iCloud 662
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Steve Jobs was on hand today to kick off Apple's WWDC keynote. Lion took the lead, with no surprises except a $29.99 pricetag and a July ship date.
iOS is getting a new "Notification Center"; Twitter is being integrated; he announced a split thumbable keyboard for iPads; wireless syncing; and a native IM system for iOS devices, shipping in the Fall.
iCloud will be free, syncing apps (Mail, Calendar, Contacts and iWork apps) across devices. Photostream is iCloud for pictures. iTunes iCloud will let you re-download your tracks at last, and iTunes Match will let you match your ripped CDs to Apple's copies.
Give us the betas! (Score:2)
While iCloud is as expected, I am still curious to see it in action. Will the terrible file management experience of iOS devices disappear with the iCloud?
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It sounds like a rebranding of MobileMe (which was a rebranding of .mac). See it in action by signing up for MobileMe, and then wonder why all your email disappeared.
Re:Give us the betas! (Score:5, Insightful)
Steve himself pointed out that MobileMe was a misstep. As someone who has cobbled together a cable-based home iTunes network, Gmail (via both a desktop/laptop web browser but also through iPhone's Mail app for notifications, etc.), Flickr & iPhoto, AppleTVs, a 60GB iPod, my wife's iPod Touch, Things for to do lists, etc., etc., etc., the only thing that is not encouraging to me about this is the thought of redoing everything again. But if Apple is actually putting some energy into this (and from the data center pictures, it looks like they are), it's might be too tempting to refuse.
And iTunes Match? Does anyone else find it baffling how they are getting away with this? I mean, for $25 I get legal versions of every single—ahem, questionably procured, shall we say— tracks in my gigantic iTunes library? Did the record companies read the fine print on this? I mean, as a voracious music consumer, I'm NOT complaining... we've all known for a long time that things were going to have to change in regard to digital media and copyright. And say what you will about them, I could see Apple being the company to make it happen. But really... how did they get away with this?
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I mean, for $25 I get legal versions of every singleâ"ahem, questionably procured, shall we sayâ" tracks in my gigantic iTunes library? Did the record companies read the fine print on this?
Lala had this feature. They called it "iTunes Uploader" or something along those lines. Of course, it didn't actually upload your iTunes library; it matched your rips with the rips Lala had in their library.
And yes, the record labels (the big ones along with a wide selection of indies) agreed to this with Lala. When Apple bought Lala, it wasn't immediately clear that the deals that Lala had made with the labels would apply to the sale, but clearly Apple has worked it out to the labels' satisfaction.
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No, once you've signed up you can download the DRM-free 256 kbps AAC copies to your computer. However, when you stop paying you can no longer download the files. You are also able to download anything you have in your computer's library that is also in the iTunes store directly from Apple to your iPhone. Now I don't know about you but my iPhone has less total storage than the size of my music collection. In fact, my music collection at home (mostly MP3s) is several times larger than the total storage on my
Re:Give us the betas! (Score:5, Insightful)
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I am confused by you. Don't misunderstand, I'm not trying to be offensive, but I am confused by why you would do this. iTunes (indeed, any decent media management system) has metadata associated with music files. The application knows what album the song is from, and will even happily manage multiple copies of the same song with different meta data. Why do you care how the underlying filesystem organizes the music? Metadata also keeps track of stuff like genre, artist, even composer when composer is di
iCloud - some on Mac and PC (Score:2)
But will it run on Linux?
In other words... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:In other words... (Score:4, Insightful)
As trollish as that looks, I was sort of thinking it too. I didn't realize how far behind the times Apple had gotten, until I saw the list of coming features and thought to myself, "I've had that for years".
Re:In other words... (Score:5, Insightful)
Apple has always been more about making things actually "just work" instead of introducing new things. Before the iPhone you could do all those things and more on Windows Mobile and Symbian phones. Before the iPod there were MP3 players with far more features than the iPod had.
The difference is that Apple takes some existing features, and does them _really_ well. You could browse the web on Windows Mobile, but the experience was pretty painful. The iPhone was the first to make that feature actually useful enough to use all the time. Same with the iPod. I have a little MP3 player from Samsung and I can't for the life of me remember how to use it. It just isn't intuitive.
It is changing a little though. For example the notification system was taken exactly from Android without significantly improving it. And I'm disappointed that there were no changes to the home screen to be more dynamic to allow quick access to certain features (like turning Wifi/bluetooth on/off).
I still think the user experience is better on iOS than Android, but the gap is much smaller than it was just 6 months ago. Apple will have to be a bit more creative to maintain that lead there.
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No you haven't.
This happens every time Apple announces a new product. Someone invariably claims that it's nothing new, because some half-assed crappy version of the idea exists somewhere. Then once the product is actually released, everyone is amazed at what a leap it is.
This goes all the way back to the iPod. "Oooh, an MP3 player. Big deal. I have one of those."
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I work in a place with 62 employees and 61 apple desktops and I'm saying that to myself a lot, as well, with the term "on Windows" at the end. Of course, I don't really like windows because I feel everything should be UNIX and not just the simplified copy of UNIX that is Windows NT. And of course, all the users care about are how it looks, not what it does. Sigh.
So you work with one smart person?
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That could be himself.
Or a janitor.
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Which operating system out there now has a system-wide, OS-level resume
Windows since Vista [microsoft.com]. As with Lion, this boils down to apps supporting it.
So far as I know, both Gnome and KDE on Linux also have something similar - again, subject to app support.
journaling function?
I'm not sure what, precisely, you mean by this; but in Windows 7 you can right-click on a file and choose "Restore previous versions" from the context menu. This is configurable in Control Panel -> System -> System Protection, and is turned on by default for the system drive. I can't say for sure where this feature has appea
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You are not getting it at all. This rapid resume feature in Lion is a system wide OS level resume. Apps are not required to be written to support it as it comes for free for all Cocoa apps. Also, the versioning in Lion are delta changes and not copies of the files.
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This rapid resume feature in Lion is a system wide OS level resume. Apps are not required to be written to support it as it comes for free for all Cocoa apps.
I still fail to see how this is technically possible, short of doing something like suspend-to-disk on per-app level (in which case it wouldn't be limited to Cocoa apps?). Can you give a link to some technical explanation of how it works?
*Sigh* Cocoa is a framework which shares some characteristics with .NET (except Cocoa existed long before) as it is a late binding. With .NET, you can use reflection to serialize and deserialize complex object types while Cocoa uses something called a selector.
See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocoa_(API)#Late_binding [wikipedia.org]
Cocoa uses this concept of late building to allow you to have your UI contained within dynamically loaded .nib files which tie into selectors in your objective C class files.
If you are really s
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Windows 7.
How do I enable those features? I'm on a Windows 7 Ultimate work laptop right now. I don't see the reboot and resume feature anywhere or the easy access to versioning.
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Who said anything about easy access?!
NTFS has supported journelling for years and has Previous Versions feature (available from file Properties). Application resuming/restarting has been around since Vista and the OS has several hooks for registering for these events and messages. The fact that no-one implements it isn't relevant.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb525422(v=vs.85).aspx [microsoft.com]
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb525423(v=vs.85).aspx [microsoft.com]
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa373651(VS.85). [microsoft.com]
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Apple will implement them in their applications. Mac developers will follow. Everything else, like open source implementation and so forth... Well, NeoOffice might implement these features, so there's the LibreOffice support. Other cross-platform applications might not follow.
Tell me, does Microsoft Office implement these features? If so, I've never heard of it. Apple at least is implementing and making such the default behavior, in addition to changing the expectations of users and thus pushing devel
Re:In other words... (Score:4, Interesting)
The real difference will be exactly what you pointed out.
Windows has had them since Vista ... no one makes their apps handle the notifications.
Mac Apps (high profile ones anyway) will, like all the ones Apple makes.
Kinda makes you wonder why Apple seems to be able to get their internal apps to use all the OS features yet Windows developers don't. iOS developers are pretty lazy (on average) at this point just because there are so many of them, its kinda like Visual Basic over there at the moment, but not so much for OSX app yet. I expect the major league apps will all support the features in their next major release, with the exception of Adobe products which pretty much seem to try to teach Microsoft just how long you can milk an old, shitty code base without adding any new features and just changing the gui while forcing upgrades via incompatible default save formats.
I expect that iWorks and iLife will be updated right around the same time as OSX 10.7 is released, why doesn't Office 2007 support these features yet? Okay, they didn't want to update it cause they wanted people to buy the new version ... then why doesn't 2010 have it?
I do Windows development on most days, I actually hadn't even heard about these features until fairly recently ... long after I learned about it for OSX ... which I do write for occasionally, but not as a primary job function.
I hate to say it, but Apple does seem to use some sort of magic, Windows has been 'better' in most ways almost always compared to OSX (I'm ignoring Vista in the same way I'm ignoring Copland), yet I'd still rather use OSX any day, even when it holds me back ... could be the UNIX under it that does it, but it just seems like everything feels better in OSX, technically inferior (debatable) or not.
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Application resuming/restarting has been around since Vista and the OS has several hooks for registering for these events and messages. The fact that no-one implements it isn't relevant.
Actually, it's very relevant. A feature that no one uses is inferior to a feature that gains wide usage. Resume will be quickly supported by just about every Cocoa app for which it makes sense.
After all, if this is all based on "I've had that for years", you'd assume that means actually having it implemented, and not just *potentially* implemented, but actually not.
It will be the same in Lion. Unless the apps are rewritten to support these features they won't work. It doesn't just happen magically.
These aren't "hooks" like you are thinking. There will be APIs to modify how it works on your app if it does something where Resume wouldn't be
Linux doesn't HAVE to reboot on kernel. (Score:3)
http://www.ksplice.com/ [ksplice.com]
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/08/04/24/1334234/Patch-the-Linux-Kernel-Without-Reboots [slashdot.org] - Apr 2008
When you install Windows 7 or a new Linux kernel, do you have to restart? Why? OS X Lion don't require that.
We haven't "had" to reboot linux for more than 3 years now, where have you been?
But I think what you say about Lion is incorrect. "Mac OS X Lion's new Resume feature lets users get back to where they left off after a shutdown or restart" - CNet [cnet.com]
That is significant, but it's not the same as not having to rebooting. If you didn't reboot, then it's just sleep/hybernate, and Windows has done th
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It is VHS vs Betamax all over again.. where Apple is the latter.
Except in an alternate universe where Betamax actually wins.
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...he introduced the Apple community to . . . OS X Snow Leopard.
OS X Snow Leopard? Who makes that?
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He's not wrong, though. Several of the "new features [apple.com]" are re-treads of things that exist in Snow Leopard. (Also, I note that the link I gave is likely to change over time, and be meaningless once whatever if after Lion releases. Oh well.)
For example, "pinch to zoom." In Lion, you can pinch on the track pad to zoom in and out of webpages! Incidentally, you can also do this in Snow Leopard. And I'm fairly sure it worked in Leopard, too. Maybe even before that.
Another "new feature" is the Mac App Store. Which
Didn't you know? (Score:3, Informative)
Apple always does it last.
Then they do it best.
That's the MO that they have been repeating for years.
You just caught on?
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Perhaps he actually introduced you to how the most successful computing device company takes an idea and makes it usable for the masses.
No install media, no deal (Score:2)
The comment that there will be no install media for OS X 10.7 is a show stopper to me.
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I have heard elsewhere that there might be a burnable disc image, but no confirmation yet.
Could be a good way to do it. The App Store downloads the image, mounts it and installs. You can go in later and burn it to disc.
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It has already been reported that the App Store is an preferred option for upgrading, but I have no doubt you will be able to purchase it as well. Without a physical media option, it would be difficult to do system work (repairs, installs, etc) when you lack an internet connection.
Ref: http://osxdaily.com/2011/05/04/mac-os-x-10-7-lion-to-be-distributed-through-mac-app-store/ [osxdaily.com]
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I've heard you can burn it to a DVD if you want. It's just a disc image (in the developer preview anyway). [holgr.com]
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From the macrumors live updates:
10:37 am Lion available only on Mac App Store
We'll see ...
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Huh? (Score:2)
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Umm... You bought a Mac there buddy, not a computer. You have issues you are supposed to pay Apple their tithe to get it fixed, not fix it yourself.
I am not trying to be trollish, but iPhones, iPads, iPods are not supposed to be user serviceable items. Maybe this is just another step Apple is taking to movetheir computer business to a similar revenue stream model? Look at the MacBook Airs for example, i don't believe anything about them is supposed to be user serviceable. I am not sure about the sta
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Purchase Snow Leopard $30.
Purchase Lion $30.
Total $60.
Purchase Windows 7 for about $200+
Yep. Apple is expensive and double dipping. You only have $120+ more in your pockets now than if you went with a Windows upgrade. Maybe more if you upgraded to Vista and then to 7.
Re:No install media, no deal (Score:4, Insightful)
Thats ok, my wallet was stuffed with those 500 dollars i saved buying an Asus laptop anyway.
Maybe some links would be nice? (Score:2)
I mean really, maybe some information beyond this vaguely twitter-esque, detail-lacking post? A picture of something? This is about as low-content as you can go while still technically providing information.
Or at least put it in a separate "here's my live slashdot blog" section.
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Just go anywhere on the web. Anywhere. Everybody's covering this today, finding more information isn't exactly hard.
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Then why post low-content live-bloggish "articles" here on slashdot? Post an article linking to one or two of those live blogs instead, or even add some sort of editorial commentary to the post.
What was posted, though, I expect to be signed as "Sent from my Android" or similar.
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Here's the live blog (well not so live now) of the event. It has the essential information.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/06/wwdc-2011-liveblog-steve-jobs-talks-ios-5-os-x-lion-icloud-an/?sort=newest&refresh=60 [engadget.com]
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Some sort of added value in the form of editorial commentary, or similar? Maybe pose some interesting questions about the topic at hand? Since when has slashdot been in the business of "You heard it here first, folks?" It's an aggregator. So aggregate. :)
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And I take it you got a lot of value out of subsequently stopping by /.? Oh, right, the "article" provided absolutely no additional information, or insight, or even posed any questions about the topic at hand. ;)
My comment wasn't about being able to find the information elsewhere, it was instead a long version of "why did they bother posting this?"
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Are you sure you're in the right place?
I skipped Snow Leopard (Score:5, Insightful)
But I will definitely go for Lion at $29. The thing is, how will it be made available to Leopard users? Jobs said it was Mac App Store-only.
(posting non-anon this time)
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Install Snow Leopard? Then download Lion? Isn't SL like $20 now? Or you can borrow the discs from someone.
Re:I skipped Snow Leopard (Score:4, Informative)
Re:I skipped Snow Leopard (Score:5, Informative)
It's an app that you get from the app store. You copy /Applications/Install Mac OS X.app to your media of choice. This is how it has worked since the first developer preview like 5 months ago.
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No, this is an in-place upgrade. No rebooting required.
As such, you won't actually have to burn anything.
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Where's the infrared transmogrifier? (Score:3, Funny)
I can't wait to give away my freedom. How much longer?
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Hopefully it'll be released at the same time as flying cars and Duke Nukem Forever.
Oh wait, scratch that last one. Just the flying cars as the last defense, then.
Oh how times change (Score:3, Insightful)
2001: Record labels sue my.mp3.com in to oblivion.
2011: Record labels can't wait to suck on the iTunes Cloud teat.
Re:Oh how times change (Score:5, Insightful)
2001: Record labels sue my.mp3.com in to oblivion.
2011: Record labels can't wait to suck on the iTunes Cloud teat.
In between: Some major payment of money from Apple to the record companies.
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As for #4, I believe it is "4.
itunes match: 25 dollar insurance..??? (Score:3)
So for a 25 dollar "insurance" fee I can match all the mp3s that I can find op my harddisk to songs in the itunes cloud and then those (legal) itunes songs will be downloaded to all my devices? That's an offer that I can't refuse.
And won't the music industry go apeshit over this?
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Well, if you think about it. You were pretty unlikely to spend *anything* on those songs again. So now they get $25 out of you that they otherwise were unlikely to get. Not a bad deal.
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So for a 25 dollar "insurance" fee I can match all the mp3s that I can find op my harddisk to songs in the itunes cloud and then those (legal) itunes songs will be downloaded to all my devices? That's an offer that I can't refuse.
And won't the music industry go apeshit over this?
Sorry, no - you still have to have a legal original copy of the song. This just uses your bandwidth to copy the song to all your registered iDevices. Interestingly, this also provides a 3rd party with a proven trail that you originally owned some music you weren't supposed to - all recorded in the iCloud that you can't erase.
This actually sounds more like Apple providing a way for your to replicate any piracy of music and provide a hard-copy of the fact, so the RIAA/MPAA can sue you many times for the m
Is that $30 per machine? Family pack? (Score:2)
I have a small, but growing stable of Macs in my house. I read on Engadget that, "it will run you just $29.99 for all of your authorized Macs." Does this mean that its $30 or $60 to upgrade the two Macs I have that are tied to my iTunes account?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/06/os-x-lion-all-the-details/ [engadget.com]
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For Snow Leopard, the $30 upgrade disks were good for up to 5 systems, if I remember. Probably similar for Lion.
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1. Install on any number of Macs that are under your control, for private use only.
2. Install on _one_ Mac that is used by any number of users, for commercial use.
3. Install on any number of Macs that are used by a single user only, for commercial use.
So if you have 10 Macs shared by 20 users in your company, you buy 10 copies, one for each Mac. And if you
Perhaps one of the biggest advances... (Score:2, Insightful)
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Simply: Wow.
What color is the fucking sky on your world? How long do you measure forever? Five Years? How about twenty? Thirty? If Apple in 50 years even resembles Apple today, I'll eat my fucking flying car. Nevermind actually keeping this service running forever.
I won't even go into "persistent and secure" or "all present and future devices". You apparently don't read the news enough
Xcode ... (Score:2)
How about making it so I don't have re-download 3+GB every time a minor dot-release of Xcode is released?
Re:Xcode ... (Score:5, Informative)
They did. Delta updates in App Store. All the devs in the room applauded, for precisely the reason you mentioned.
Re:Xcode ... (Score:4, Informative)
How about making it so I don't have re-download 3+GB every time a minor dot-release of Xcode is released?
http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html - look for 'Efficient app updates'
Few surprises (Score:4, Interesting)
We also expected the over the network OS upgrades, something I think will really separate Mac Os and iOS hardware form the MS crowd. Lack of installation media is a concern for some, but I put all my OS on HD partitions and install from the harddisk anyway. Haven't install from a DVD in years. Haven't bought a application DVD in years.
The dig about it just working is really apropos. I tried to use Amazon music service thingy. Bought the music, put it on the web, could not download it to my computer afterwards. So I set up Amazon to download to my computer, thinking I would upload back to Amazon. Bought the lady gaga for $1, never got it to download properly, Amazon will not aswer my requests to download it again. I think this is called theft. Really wondering if I am going to do business with them when they won't give me my purchases.
One thing I am concerned about is the transition from Mobileme to iCloud. They are not making it cheaper, 5gb for $20 is not better than the current deal. They are just giving away inexpensive services for free, just like they did with itools. Most people are not going to upload that many pictures in 30 days, and well over a decade of mail is not taking more than a few gb of space.
The versioning on iOS is going be a huge thing, since the iOS 'filesystem' is not versionable with any current tools. OTOH, semms iworks is stil imcompatable between Mac OS and iOS so I would have liked to see some work done on that front.
Apple is competing hard against Google and RIM, which is good, but they seem to have lost their way on some of the applications. This happened in the late 80's when they were trying to cut prices to compete with the PC. The software was spun off the claris and a lot of good applications were lost.
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Its not 5gb for $20 -- its 5gb for free. Everyone gets 5gb ... and that 5gb ONLY counts your personal data-stuff. Not your music, apps and the like which is bought from Apple's servers. None of that counts towards your storage limits at all.
The only thing that costs anything with iCloud (which completely suprecedes MobileMe, IIUC) is the iTunes music match service. Everything else is completely free.
I'm not sure I get your comment on applications-- they seem to be spending as much time working on their apps
Dear Apple (Score:4, Insightful)
Welcome to last year.
Love and kisses,
Android
Really, though all these things are good, but Apple is going for the same thing IBM and Microsoft tried in the 80s and 90s by locking users into a static platform. There's better bells and whistles now, but when Facetime can't connect with anything other than an iOS or OS X device, you'll have to say forget it and go with something more cross platform like Google Voice. Many of the new features advertised already exist in one form or another and the ones that are unique are more 'Huh. Interesting, but not enough to make my buy one'.
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You do realize that Apple released the code for FaceTime for others to build it into their clients. And you do realize that several important pieces of the new stuff are also made available to third party developers so they can participate, too? Exactly how is releasing code for others to use locking users into a static platform?
"native IM system" (Score:3)
How does an IM system becomes "native", and what would it be?
On one hand, I hope that - like iChat - it will support the One True Protocol (namely, XMPP).
On the other hand, what with FaceTime being a new thing entirely (instead of taking one of the existing open ones, such as Google's video chat XMPP extensions), and locked down tight so far despite all the promises, I have a bad feeling about this...
catching up (Score:3)
Wow, Apple is seriously behind the curve, as usual. Google and others have been offering "it just works" cloud-syncing for years now.
And we'll have to see whether their iCould service is even usable MobileMe really sucked (I used to subscribe to it and canceled after a few years).
iCloud sounds great (Score:3)
Any song you buy on iTunes is automatically available to download on your device.
Plus if you pay the 25 bucks a year fee,
any song you obtained elsewhere (ripped from CD, bought from amazon, bought from allofmp3, pirated, whatever) that can be matched to a song on iTunes, you get the iTunes copy to download to your device.
And if the song you have cant be matched to an iTunes song (e.g. songs from artists not willing to sign up to iTunes, songs from your mates band, that leaked copy of the new album that's not in stores yet etc) it gets uploaded to the cloud and can be downloaded to your device.
No more "Mac OS X"? (Score:3)
On Apple's web pages, the 10.7 ("Lion") version seems no longer to be referred to as "Mac OS X".
Instead, it's called just "OS X" or "OS X Lion" in nearly all occurences.
This might be insignificant, but then again... remember when "Apple Computer, Inc." relabeled itself into just "Apple, Inc."?
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I'd assume that you can opt out of the iCloud stuff. At least I hope so, since I definitely do not software updates being automatically pushed to my jailbroken devices.
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Wifi won't bypass ISP caps. It will only bypass cellular caps.
Granted it gives you 2 buckets to overflow instead of just one.
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Once again iTunes is passing off fundamentally flawed technology as a good thing, and the press is eating it up.
Where does it say you must use the Match service to use the iCloud service? You're making a lot of assumptions from very little information.
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Try Subsonic (Score:2)
Why store all your music in "the cloud" when you can serve it yourself to any browser and many devices (iphone, android, etc) from a PC you control using Subsonic [subsonic.org]?
Re:Matching my music with iTunes store? (Score:5, Informative)
From the Apple iCloud web page [apple.com], up shortly after the WWDC keynote finished:
Italics/Bold sentence above emphasized by me.
If your music is already in the Itunes store, the match service will let you avoid having to upload it, and you might be able to upgrade the quality. If it's not in the itunes store, you can still upload it to the service, and have your non-mainstream stuff available to you in the same way, but you won't get the upgraded bitrate that a matched song might get you. I know I have a bunch of old, comparatively low-bitrate, mp3's in my collection... an upgrade of even half of them to 256kbps for the cost of a few minutes scanning my library and $25/yr doesn't sound like an unreasonable price when you factor in the time required to re-rip a couple hundred CDs at a higher bitrate.
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They addressed this already:
2:55PM If any songs don't match they'll be uploaded for you. Anything that's matched is upgraded to 256Kbps AAC, without DRM. [engadget.com]
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so basically it's exactly like dropbox et al
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Well.. I guess I was wrong.
Good.
Re:Annnnnd it's a big nothing. (Score:4, Insightful)
Putting very mildly indeed, iTunes Match is an important announcement.
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The summary is very light on details, so I can understand you misinterpreting this. iCloud isn't the only place your data is stored, it is actually stored on the iPad, iPhone, iPod, and Mac. It is just that all files are seamlessly shared between your different devices. Buy a song on iTunes on your Mac, and it
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I was hoping for some new iphone ... or flash support... or SOMETHING new.
....flash support? hahahahahahahahahahahaha
yeah its screwed up isn't it?
Apple's approach to developers is
1) We get to claim 30% of your revenue
2) You have to live in a box and learn "our way" to stay there
3) We can change the rules at any time
It's almost dystopian, how the hell do they expect to attract developers with these kinds of restrictions?
It has never been more clear that Wonziak did all the work, and Jobs did the marketing, and we all know who ended up running the place.
Seriously, in the early 90's I wrote a lot of software on a 7200 PPC Ap
Re:Annnnnd it's a big nothing. (Score:5, Insightful)
1) We get to claim 30% of your revenue
... and we paid out 2.5 billion dollars so far to developers. Also just out: The Apple app store (the one where you can buy apps for Macs only) is the _largest_ seller of PC software! Beating Walmart, Best Buy and anyone else. And can you tell me any other store that lets developers keep 70% of the revenue.
Re:Annnnnd it's a big nothing. (Score:5, Insightful)
With $2.5 Billion in sales of independent software in the last year...thats how.
I know several of developers that HATE the idea of what the iStore is...and at the same time, are making far more money using it, selling their products far cheaper, than they ever did before.
You can either be religious about all of this, or you can be pragmatic.
If you were selling anywhere else, you'd have to deal with CC processing, you'd have to deal with boxed products. You'd have to deal with a shitload of other hassles...in this regard, the only hassle you have to do is to mind read what Steve Jobs is planning on doing next and for most developers, this isn't a problem.
Even a friend that just has a product kicked out recently...said he made enough before it was kicked out...and it isn't like his code isn't reusable. Will fix the problems and resubmit.
And if this is too much of a problem, they can always go program for Android.
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What I really want is Silverlight, which won't ever happen because of strictly political reasons between MS and Apple. It's stupid, these companies get into pissing matches with each other and their customers suffer from it.
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I dunno bout you, but I have a record collection of about 5k vinyl records. If I wanted to synch that to an Ipad, I'd have to have ... a computer?
Seriously 64G, the most expensive one sold, just don't cut it, it's just not enough space.
That, and I have learned that when companies like this CAN change the rules at any time, they inevitably do... at will.
ALL my content is > TB on any given day. Now what?
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OS X Server, or xSAN?
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You can already do that you know.
Do in Terminal: defaults write com.apple.systempreferences TMShowUnsupportedNetworkVolumes 1
Then just share a disk or directory over AFP and point your TimeMachine to it.
And Lion will have Mac OS X Server built-in so you can just set up a share, enable it as a TimeMachine target and it will show up automatically.