Apple iPhone 5 To Flaunt New A8 Processor 197
An anonymous reader writes "The release of iOS 4.3 beta for developers has revealed updates to gesture-based navigation, AirPlay and Personal Hot Spot in the next edition of iPad and iPhone. However, not all changes are UI-related; it is reported that Apple is due to add an ARM Cortex A8 processor to its iPhone 5. Apple Daily, a Hong Kong-based newspaper, reported that Apple's iPhone 5 will be powered by a dual core processor with SGX543 graphics. It is reported that Apple is in contact with a Taiwanese component maker for the A8 SoC. Currently Apple uses a custom made A4 SoC in its iPad and iPhone 4 and uses SGX535 graphics and video support."
Flaunt? New? (Score:5, Informative)
A4 has an A8 processor. Next SoC will be A9 based (Score:5, Informative)
Cortex A8 = Single Core (Score:2, Informative)
Cortex A8 = single core people. Cortex A9 = dual core.
It might be that Apple is calling their new processor A8, like the called their old processor A4. These names, though, are arbitrary and don't reflect the underlying Cortex architecture.
Re:N900? (Score:5, Informative)
Yes, the N900.
And the Palm Pre.
And the Motorola DROID, Droid X, DROID 2, and DROID PRO.
iPhone 3Gs, iPad, iPhone 4, iPods, and Apple TV.
Pretty much every non-Qualcomm based phone currently runs on Cortex-A8 based CPUs.
flaunt? (Score:4, Informative)
verb [ trans. ]
display (something) ostentatiously, esp. in order to provoke envy or admiration or to show defiance : newly rich consumers eager to flaunt their prosperity. ( flaunt oneself) dress or behave in a sexually provocative way.
Apple flaunts the UI, not the tech specs (ram, processor, bus speed, etc).
Re:Flaunt? New? (Score:5, Informative)
Uh, the A8 is ARM's old smartphone core. Putting two of them in a package is a little bit clever because, unlike the A9 that everyone else's next generation products are using, the A8 isn't actually designed for multicore applications (the A9 scales to 4 cores).
The article was translated a bit poorly. A8 means "Apple's new name for their processor", not "Cortex A8 architecture".
Confused (Score:5, Informative)
'A4' is Apple's name for a chip based on ARMs Cortex A8 architecture. The next chip will probably be called 'A5', and will probably be based on Cortex A9. A4/A5 and A8/A9 are two seperate nomenclatures.
Also, to 'flaunt' means to
display something ostentatiously, esp. in order to provoke envy or admiration
This is not something an inanimate object like a phone can do.
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BUY BUY BUY! (Score:3, Informative)
Re:N900? (Score:5, Informative)
A very heavily modified A8. Qualcomm licensed the A8, but then ripped out the floating point pipeline and replaced it with something better, tweaked the rest of the pipeline in a few places and branded it Scorpion. It generally ships in their Snapdragon SoC. It's somewhere between the A8 and A9 in performance for most workloads.
ARM provides a variety of different licenses. The cheapest just let you take their core, pop it in the middle of a chip and put other cores around out (or fab it by itself). The most expensive ones give you all of the designs and the right to modify them in any way you like. Qualcomm is one of the few companies with the latter kind.
Most SoC makers get the cheaper ones and differentiate their products by adding different components to the ARM core. For example, the TI OMAP series comes with a TI DSP that provides a lot more performance (and a huge amount more performance-per-Watt) for a lot of media decoding tasks, nVidia's Tegra series comes with an nVidia GPU.
Qualcomm modifies the ARM core itself, which means that it takes them longer to get to market but gives better performance. It also has the effect that they are out of phase with the rest of the market. Everyone else was shipping A8s before the Snapdragon was out, but then Snapdragon (which outperforms the A8) came out before anyone was shipping A9 cores. They will probably do something similar with the A9 and bring their tweaked version to market just as the A9 is starting to show its age.
The other interesting company is Marvell. They have a license from ARM that allows them to modify ARM chips or produce their own independently designed ARM-compatible chips. They bought the XScale line from Intel, which is based on the StrongARM design from Digital. They make the chips in the SheevaPlug and similar systems, which are not ARM designs.
Re:Not A8 (Score:5, Informative)
As does Apple and Marvell (who has the original architecture license - DEC (StrongARM) --> Compaq (acquired DEC) --> Intel (through litigation with Compaq, and produced XScale) --> Marvell (purchasing Intel's mobile division)).
Samsung might have one too - their Cortex A8's were modified by that company Apple acquired as well, unless the A8 licensing allows minor modifications. Still, the A8 core used by Apple and Samsung aren't stock - I think the Apple one is actually a bit more modified as well.
(Fun fact - Apple was one of the original ARM investors (back when it was Acorn RISC Machines) and pretty much made it popular with Newton...)
Re:You guys should wait... (Score:0, Informative)
By that time, Android v17.0 should also be out, possibly also running graphically smooth instead of jerky, laggy and stuttering.
Re:Flaunt? New? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:A4 has an A8 processor. Next SoC will be A9 bas (Score:5, Informative)