Covert Video of Apple IPad 2 Just Released 190
An anonymous reader writes "This video has just been snuck out of the CES show in Las Vegas last week. Apparently this prototype iPad 2 was given to a Chinese iPad accessory manufacturer, presumably in order to help with their case designs for the launch of the iPad 2, rumored to be February 2011."
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I can't see the video at work, but can someone tell me if this is the same thing as the mock-up Engadget spotted [engadget.com]?
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curved edges, front and back cameras, that weird vent in the bottom corner. Some of the icons in the OS look different (contacts is blue) and the resolution looks a bit more dense, as much as you can tell on camera anyway.
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Its a mock up. How could you tell anything about resolution from a mock up? A back lit transparency behind glass!
At 4 seconds in, his fingers touch an icon. But nothing launches.
Mock UP.
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Not to mention, I don't imagine Apple would etch "iPad 2" right on the back of the unit like that. With iPods they've always said, simply, "iPod" regardless of model or generation. (At least from what I've observed over the years.)
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No, the Engadget mockup at least managed to get the typeface right. This mockup not only uses the wrong typeface all over the shop, it manages to use about five different ones.
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Additionally, it may be worth noting that Apple generally doesn't put release numbers on their products. My iPhone 4 just says iPhone on the back, and I'm pretty sure my 3GS only had iPhone on there too.
The grille is also pretty un-Apple these days.
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It's easier to look closely at the video if it is downloaded (as with DownloadHelper add-in for Firefox)and viewed in something like VLC. About 19 seconds in, it looks the the FCC IDs are almost readable. If someone with a video editing app views the video, it might be possible to find a better spot than where VLC can stop to try and catch those numbers and hopefully allow looking them up in the F.C.C. database to see if they match a current product or not.
Since DownloadHelper doesn't seem to work with em
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Additionally, it may be worth noting that Apple generally doesn't put release numbers on their products. My iPhone 4 just says iPhone on the back, and I'm pretty sure my 3GS only had iPhone on there too.
Really?
Mine has lots of info on the back [laptopmag.com].
Even the Engadget Pre Release "Found in a Bar" (planted) iPhone 4 had markings on the back with dummy numbers. [mattters.com]
They are referring to the name. The backs of iPhones don't say "iPhone 3GS" or "iPhone 4." They simply say "iPhone" in addition to the other things. In fact, "iPhone 3GS" isn't found anywhere on the phone, even in the "About" page.
From the land of the neverending knockoffs. (Score:2)
Not only will there be a case for the next iPad, there will be cases for the inevitable knockoffs too.
Not an actual iPad 2 (Score:5, Informative)
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Camera on the back + really ugly speaker grate = fake.
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They also said that the iPhone 4 was ugly and that Apple would never release something that looked like that.
Re:Not an actual iPad 2 (Score:5, Funny)
They also said that the iPhone 4 was ugly and that Apple would never release something that looked like that.
Thats because they were holding it wrong.
Re:Not an actual iPad 2 (Score:4, Insightful)
Short repeating loop of "CES crowd" sounds = fake.
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Someone mod this up: I noticed this too and it pretty much means it has to be a fake.
Beyond unlikely (Score:3, Insightful)
In my opinion, there are two big issues against this supposed iPad 2: First, prototypes of Apple stuff have shown up before (on eBay) - however the key thing is, they tend to use the name / badges of the previous generation, or their name plates are simply blank (prototype Macbooks had 'power book' on them and the prototype macbook air's badge was blank)
On top of that, Apple has so far never named a product with a '2'. There is no Macbook 2, no iPod touch '2', no iPhone 2 etc.
So the likelihood that a) the prototype is a reflection of the finished product (with a proper 'iPad 2' name on it) and b) Apple have put a '2' in a product's name seems doubtful
Re:Beyond unlikely (Score:4, Insightful)
Yeah, nobody has ever heard of the Apple 2. Right.
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I agree. Apple II or Apple ][, sure. Apple '2'? What's an Apple '2'?
Actually for a better example, iPhone 4 would work better - complete forgot about that. But then they were somewhat pushed into that name (for clarity reasons) by the stupid names of the previous iPhones. Not so with the iPad
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Well, interestingly, iPhone 3G was the 2nd generation, and iPhone 3GS was the third, iPhone 4 isn't 4G (though a 4G version could come out.. probably called iPhone 4GS or something).
There was also the Mac 2, which was an open design (compared to the original Mac)
Interestingly, apple supposedly has a rule about naming anything "3", based on the failure of the Apple 3, which is why they went from Mac 2 to Mac Quadra (skipping anything that sounds like 3), but they seem to have violated that rule for the 3G an
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The three rule was broken a long time ago, when the LC III came out, and was a big success.
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Well, interestingly, iPhone 3G was the 2nd generation, and iPhone 3GS was the third,
Actually not. The iPhone 3G was the second iPhone, but not the second generation of iPhone. The 3G is exactly the same as the original iPhone internally except for a new baseband radio for 3G. The 3GS is the proper 2nd gen device, as it used a new CPU at a higher speed. Technically, the iPhone 4 is still only the 3rd Gen iPhone, and still uses 3G cell technology. Apple screwed up here IMHO. The iPhone 4 should have been named the iPhone HD so that when the 4G cell technologies are available, they could have
4 to misleadingly suggest 4G (Score:2)
iPhone 4 would work better - complete forgot about that. But then they were somewhat pushed into that name (for clarity reasons) by the stupid names of the previous iPhones.
Pushed into it? I'm pretty sure they named it 4 to suggest to those who haven't done research that it supports 4G wireless networks, so when providers and other manufactures advertise 4G service, people think "Apple has that!". I still hear it called "the iPhone 4G" from time to time.
If that wasn't the primary reason, it had to be part of the calculation.
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You do know that the iPhone 4 was actually the 4th version of the iPhone right? ... Maybe that was the simple explanation.
Actually, it's not an explanation at all to the question "why did the company name the product with a version number at the end when they usually go out of their way to avoid doing this?".
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Windows 95
Windows 98
Windows 98SE
Windows 2000
Windows XP
Windows Vista
Windows 7
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You forgot the 286 and 386 designations for Windows 2.1.
Mojave Experiment says otherwise (Score:2)
Who knows what is in the mind of marketing?
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Windows Vista
Windows 7
Actually, it's pretty obvious why Microsoft marketing went back to version numbers, especially considering the Mojave Experiment [wikimedia.org]. While it's certainly possible they might have just named it 7 because they felt it was the seventh generation of Windows, the obvious, likely reason is that 7 sounds as little like Vista as possible.
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I agree. Apple II or Apple ][, sure. Apple '2'? What's an Apple '2'?
How anyone with half a brain called the Apple II.
In fact, I doubt even the most hardcore Apple loyalist ever called it the "Apple bracket-bracket", or that Apple actually intented it to be so.
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Yeah, nobody has ever heard of the Apple 2. Right.
Apple II
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Re:Beyond unlikely (Score:5, Funny)
Yeah, nobody has ever heard of the Apple 2. Right.
Apple II
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Apple ][
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Re:Beyond unlikely (Score:5, Funny)
Yeah, nobody has ever heard of the Apple 2. Right.
Apple II
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Apple ][
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There are pedants lurking about.
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Yeah, nobody has ever heard of the Apple 2. Right.
Apple II
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Apple ][
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APPLE ][
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You forgot:
Enhanced //e //e
The grey enhanced
Mac II
Mac IIfx
Mac IIsi
Mac IIcx
Mac IIci
Mac LC II
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I forgot:
ImageWriter II
LaserWriter IIf
LaserWriter IIg
LaserWriter IINT
LaserWriter IINTX
LaserWriter IISC
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and Apple //c, //c+, ][GS
(and probably others).
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In said fanboy's defense, he probably wasn't born at that stage.
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No, the second-gen iPad will be called... "iPad" (generation 2, or iPad 2011 to differentiate it).
It's just a really well done mockup, I think, so the case manufacturer can show off their iPad 2G cases at CES. It's probably just a really well done mockup (it's non-functional if you look closely at the video and the screen).
I think the manufacturer just took Apple's mechanicals for the next gen iPad and created some mockups so they could test their fit and finish of their cases, and marketing took the mockup
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On top of that, Apple has so far never named a product with a '2'. There is no Macbook 2, no iPod touch '2', no iPhone 2 etc.
But there was the Lisa 2, back in 1984. Then, the next year, it was followed up by the Macintosh XL. Here's an old brochure [binarydinosaurs.co.uk].
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There's never been a Mac III though, since that number was deemed bad luck after the ill-fated Apple III. I have an Apple III keychain though, it's not yet disintegrated into a pile of dust like the traces on it's namesakes motherboard. :)
The coolest Apple series was the Apple IIc. Portable and a built in floppy drive. I ended up getting into Commodore 64, so I missed out on the early pre-Mac Apple gear. Good times!
Fake (Score:4, Insightful)
This wasn't made by Apple. (Score:5, Interesting)
It's a nice-looking iPad 2 style case for a first generation iPad. It's well-known that Apple only provides dimensions to case manufacturers in advance of product launches. At best, this is a manufacturer's attempt to visualize what they'll be working with but it's really nothing more than a first generation iPad in a one-off shell.
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I changed my mind... I don't even think it's a functioning unit of any kind now. The screen is printed, not unlike a display model cell phone. Plenty of discrepancies in the graphics, including lack of proper shading and the use of iPhone-only app icons (calculator & weather) point to it being a quick photoshop.
No RIckroll? (Score:5, Funny)
Personally, I was expecting to see Rick Astley sing to me when I clicked this link. You missed a good opertunity, Slashdot...
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I was expecting to see a Rick Astley video playing on the first iPad.
Still not very convenient (Score:2)
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What's wrong with the iPads we got? (Score:2)
Drink pretty good don't it?
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Oh Assinage (Score:2)
Grumpy old man time (Score:4, Insightful)
I don't like how short these product generations are. Yes, I understand that perfect is the enemy of good and trying to shove everything into the product to make it the best can make it unaffordable. The conventional wisdom now is that Sony did screw up by trying to push the Blueray in the PS3 too early. It made the whole thing too expensive and ceded the high ground to Microsoft with the 360.
But I do have to wonder about a new pad coming a year later, as everyone and his brother claimed it would back when the first one launched. This new one is going to make the last one look like shit, right? Only a fucking barbarian would be stuck using such old kit. Rah rah. But seriously, what more can they stick in to make the thing better? Three years between refresh ok, I can see there will be some changes. But one year? It's just more marketing bullshit.
I'm not complaining as someone who doesn't see a place for gadgets. I like them. I'm a fan. But I don't like the wasteful, destructive, consumerist crap that goes along with it. Should we really be trading out gadgets every year? Should we naturally assume that any product should be EOL'd after three years? Should we really feel good about this endless stream of expensive trinkets that will go from awesomest thing ever to landfill in 18 months?
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I think the rapidly decreasing time between product generations (with the exception of gaming consoles...that's an entirely different conversation though) comes down to a few, simple reasons:
1. The technology snowball is getting huge, and as such its speed is increasing (i.e. better technology allows you to make even better technology with less effort...look at the technological difference between 100-1000 AD, 1001-1799 AD, 1800-1950, and 1950-2011.)
2. Money, money, money. As gadgets and various doodads
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I don't like how short these product generations are.
C'mon Grumpy, it should remind you of the halcyon days of the Detroit automotive industry, right down to the built-in obsolescence. After all, if you make the right product the first time, how the hell do you sell them once a year to rich kids?
And get the hell off my lawn.
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What is a reasonable upgrade timeframe?
Keep in mind that the original iPad does not stop working when a new one hits the store shelves. I am still using my iPhone 3G. It still does everything it did the day I purchased it. The release of the 3GS and 4 did not mean it needed to go straight to the landfill. It has lots of useful life left.
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Same way my wife feels about her second-gen iPod Touch. She's going to get an iphone 4 when they come to Verizon next month, so technically that will replace the Touch, but she's been quite happy with it. Granted, it can't play some of the newer games (Infinity Blade being a good example), but it still gets used quite a bit (although, at this point in its life, it functions mainly as a Netflix streamer/Plants vs Zombies player. It will be further demoted to a "music-only" device when it gets permanently
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The 3GS does, but support is already dropping for the 1 and 3G.
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Unless the hardware fails, how much support do you really need? The device will still function just as well as it did on the last day you had support.
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I mean in terms of software updates. Once you're a few generations in, you stop getting the new features that get introduced for newer products. This is an old problem for all devices that have frequent updates, simply because it isn't cost-effective to develop for hardware that isn't being sold anymore.
Specifically with the iPhones, many new features in iOS 4 could have been supported by the iPhone 1 and 3G hardware if Apple chose to make it happen. Probably not multitasking of course, but why not folders
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I guess my point is that those updates do not make the older device any less useful. Your iPhone 1 can still do everything it did in 2007 and that will continue to be true until the hardware no longer functions.
That's not to say that the new features are not desirable, but nothing has been taken away.
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The conventional wisdom now is that Sony did screw up by trying to push the Blueray in the PS3 too early. It made the whole thing too expensive and ceded the high ground to Microsoft with the 360.
Unless the point wasn't so much to beat Microsoft as it was to defeat HDDVD. In which case, big win. Maybe the wrong win, in light of the impending death of physical media, but still a win.
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Come, now: It's not like last year's model will stop working.
At least it is just one: I have a bigger problem with e.g. Nokia, releasing ten phone models a year, how many of them are they actually backing, how many will meet with success, how cheap and flimsy are they making them in order to spread their total market share between so many different devices?
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There will always be SOME people willing to be bleeding-edge customers. They sometimes subsidize their upgrades by selling their older kit on ebay.
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Should we really be trading out gadgets every year?
No, we should not. Thankfully, chances are the iPad one will keep working long after the iPad two is released, so as long as you're able to keep your own tecnophile, consumerist urges in check there shouldn't be any problem.
Fujifilm has updated their digital camera lineup three times since I bought my current camera, IBM did it twice for my laptop before selling out the business to Lenovo, who did it another few times afterwards, and if I had a buck for everytime LG has updated their DVD players since I bou
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I don't think most people upgrade with *every* rev - most people probably would upgrade every three years or so, MAYBE every other year in a rapidly changing marketplace (smartphones, for example). And it isn't that the products are being EOLd for purely marketing reasons (though some are) it's more like the space just changes that fast as new players enter and start challenging each other to innovate.
The point of frequent product refreshes is to get the people who say "I won't get that until it has x, y an
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In other words, you're not buying a tablet for the next 5 years, because the graphics aren't there to drive a 300+dpi display 10" in size (you're looking at something like a 2000x3000px display, at least). No embedded GPU can drive this, and it's near
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Just because they come out with a new model doesn't mean you have to buy a new one every year. They come out with new cars every year, but nobody complains about that. "Oh Jesus, the 2011s are out... my 2010 is obsolete!" In fact, I think most people probably *don't* upgrade their gadgets every year; it's just that the people who do upgrade make such as fuss about it that we tend to apply that to everyone.
Releasing a new product makes sense, otherwise your product line gets stale and you'll lose out to c
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They should update the product every year. You don't have to buy it and you can wait until the feature Delta is large enough for you. For example, my phone is now getting too slow for me, but the new batch of phones aren't quite fast enough. I will wait, but every iteration before I buy makes my next phone better, and cheaper.
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It's Apple. They'll crank up the resources on the 2 a bit, then they'll release software updates for all the ipads that make the first one borderline unusable, and leave a few bits out for old ipad users, just like the did with the iphones. Those users will be compelled to go get the new one "cause it's faster and does more stuff".
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For some people, a yearly refresh of a tech product is too slow. They want one every six months when some new chip/chipset or technology of the month is mentioned, ie 3D. But it's just not consumers that are pushing the cycle.
Competition has a great deal to do with this. Take for instance the iPhone. With a cycle of 1 year it is a bit longer than the average which is 9 months. If Apple is any slower they risk falling behind their competitors.
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Note that GP was referring to a new product generation, not a new product.
Released to the Web? (Score:2)
I'd figure any real covert video of a real prototype Apple product would be far too valuable and difficult to obtain to just post on YouTube for free.
With Wings? (Score:2)
I'm waiting for the iPad 'with wings'.
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I'm waiting for the iPad 'with wings'.
Surely there's an app for that?
Looping sound (Score:2)
Is it just me or is the fake background noise just a short loop?
Video of the same Fake device (Score:2)
iPad 2 on the back? No way! (Score:2, Interesting)
Look at the back of your iPhone 4, does it say "iPhone 4"? No, it says iPhone.
Look at a new MacBook Air, does it say "MacBook Air 2" on it? No, it says MacBook Air.
Apple would never print iPad 2 on a 2nd generation iPad.
It's a Canary Trap (Score:2)
Audio is looped (Score:2)
Several details seem fake...the iPad "2", the camera which looks more like a sticker. And then the crowd sound is very obviously just a looping audio file, which I assume was put it to make it seem like he was at CES. Come on /., I expect better from you. Okay, wait. No I don't.
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Video interface recognition (Score:2)
Of course the iPad 2 is getting video cameras. The big question for me is: are they going to be smart and use the front camera to provide a simple hand gesture interface?
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"I can see why you've been having problems, see, this isn't actually a computer...it's a briefcase." -Roy
christ I love The IT Crowd.
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Hullo, IT
Have you turned if off and back on again?
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Oooohhhhhhhh, THAT story.
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"With a word like Snuckers, it has to be racially insensitive!"
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If this is true, then Apple is adding colorful backgrounds to the icon text in the dock. Also, the icon itself was bigger looking with smaller corners and the margins were closer. I don't quite believe it, but it was a shaky video.
Apple could have given somewhat different screen mockups to various manufacturers - that way, if one leaked they'd know the source. Making subtle changes to documents so you can identify whose they were is an old trick.
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I'm not too sure anyone is worried about the source of the "leaks".
Apple might want to throw a huge hint to the market place not to jump on any of the dozens of Android Tabs introduced at CES, without breaking their deny-ability.
Still, its clear this is a non-operational dummy, because at 4 seconds, his fingers are touching an icon, but nothing launches. Its almost impossible to handle an iPad with one hand and not accidentally launch something.
It is interesting that you can actually see the face of the pe
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Actually, there's skype for the ipad, so you can make internet based calls if you want. You would have to use speakerphone mode, or get a wired headset though.
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Re:iPad, iSad (Score:4, Informative)
We use a ton of them for disability support, some of the apps on iOS (iPad, iPod Touch or iPhone) are replacing $2-5,000 stand alone dedicated devices.
A netbook or a laptop are over kill and or too complex for autistic kids or the programs aren't supported well or are very complicated and expensive.
We are replacing old Windows applications that cost 800-1200 dollars with an iPad and an app.
So some users a keyboard and mouse aren't as good of an interface as a touch screen.
An explanation (Score:3)
The iPad is a very limited deice that does one thing very, very, very well: it is a great reader. Note that "reader" is a large category that includes web, magazines, books, and email.
The iPad is a much better reader than a smartphone, for reasons that should be obvious to anyone who's ever compared browsing the web on their tiny phone screen to browsing the web on a full-sized computer screen. The iPad is a much better reader than a netbook, because it is lightweight (both physically, which makes it easier
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I know you're trolling, but the key word there is "someday". So far no one has come up with anything comparable at the same price point. All the cheaper ones have crappy screens or some other compromise. Stick a USB port and an SD card slot on the new one and it'll be pretty much done.
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It's not real. It's just a mockup.
No, that was Camelot.