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OS X Operating Systems Security Upgrades

Mac OS X v10.5.8 Ready For Download 152

Posted by timothy from the upgrades-are-for-wimps dept.
mysqlbytes writes "Apple has posted an anticipated v10.5.8 patch for Mac OS X, updating a number of components in the operating system, one of their last updates to Leopard. The update brings improvements to Safari, Airport, Bluetooth, among others and rolls out the latest OS X security fixes." Worth glancing at are some of the security-related notes on the update.
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  • Waste of time (Score:3, Funny)

    by SilverHatHacker ( 1381259 ) on Wednesday August 05, 2009 @07:18PM (#28965841)
    OS X is dying. Netcraft confirms it.

    • LOL! I know you're carrying on a long tradition of trolls here on the dot, but that wasn't even a good try.

      • Re: (Score:1, Funny)

        by Anonymous Coward
        "the dot"? Seriously? What, are you auditioning for a marketing gig or something?

    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Apparently, the only thing dying around here is that joke...
    • Non-UNIX OSes are all dying. Those taking more ideas are dying more slowly than those taking less, until they become UNIX completely.

      • Eh, I know I'm being pedantic and all, but OSX is Unix. More so that many of the "free-nix" OS's, if only because Apple paid to get it checked for Unixyness.

  • Nothing much has changed as expected other than the Mobile Me iDisk icon has changed to a rather fetching blue one with a cloud on it from the old magenta one. Update took a while to complete on my 1st gen MacBook Pro.

  • Bad Summary... sigh (Score:5, Informative)

    by RedK ( 112790 ) on Wednesday August 05, 2009 @07:29PM (#28965943)
    Why link only the 750 MB Combo update ? People who already have 10.5.7 don't need it, they can just get the 275 MB Update : http://support.apple.com/downloads/Mac_OS_X_10_5_8_Update [apple.com]

  • Last Updates - Hardly (Score:5, Informative)

    by Hungus ( 585181 ) on Wednesday August 05, 2009 @07:44PM (#28966043) Journal

    Sure it is likely the last major update BEFORE Snow Leopard but it is certainly not the last update for leopard.

    Also to the person who asked why link to the combo update as opposed to the smaller incremental: In my personal deployment experience the combo updates are much less likely to cause any problems when updating.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by WiiVault ( 1039946 )
      Mod Parent +1 This is certainly true about incremental updates. When you get the choice/ have the bandwidth always go with the combo. Incrementals are quite often trouble. The best rule of thumb is, the older the current install the more likely something will get hosed by going with the small updates.

    • I'm waiting on this one. The "final" updates of both 10.4 and 10.3 both caused me serious issues and headaches.

      Sometimes I think it's a conspiracy to get me to upgrade to the new boxed OS.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by Hungus ( 585181 )

        True, but at least this next Box is cheap. The family packs are running under $10 a machine or $29 singly on amazon right now. What I am not looking forward to is upgrading my server, that always hurts my wallet, but this time its $499 for unlimited.

        • ...That is assuming you are running an Intel CPU. A lot of people are running PPC systems and they run Leopard pretty well with enough RAM.

        • I just don't like the fact that this has become a trend. I have a Powerbook G4 that I plan to use for many, many years to come, and I don't wish to have to reinstall 10.5.3 (or whatever my media is) and do the upgrade dance again.

          If Steve Jobs screws me again like this I will consider writing him another nasty letter.

      • Well, you're not supposed to use the "final" update with the "tinfoil hat" update.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by v1 ( 525388 )

        I don't know of any 10.4.11 major issues. 10.3.9 causes IMAP problems in mail though, I do remember that. Had to revert a system back to 10.3.8 after an SOP update blew up their email fetch.

        What were the issues you ran into witih 10.4.11/10.3.9?

        • Instability with my Firewire devices, as well as tremendously higher idle usage.

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by v1 ( 525388 )

            I use firewire devices several times a day sometimes, from a wide variety of sources, and I haven't noticed any stability issues in quite a long time. Can you be more specific? (is it a specific brand of firewire chipset? I recall in the past there were some chipset-specific issues)

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by HTH NE1 ( 675604 )

          I don't know of any 10.4.11 major issues.

          • bzip2

            CVE-ID: CVE-2008-1372

            Available for: Mac OS X v10.4.11, Mac OS X Server v10.4.11, Mac OS X v10.5 through v10.5.7, Mac OS X Server v10.5 through v10.5.7

            Impact: Decompressing maliciously crafted data may lead to an unexpected application termination

            Description: An out-of-bounds memory access exists in bzip2. Opening a maliciously crafted compressed file may lead to an unexpected application termination. This update addresses the issue by updating bzip2 to version 1.0.5. Further information is available

  • BIND vulnerability not fixed? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by HSpirit ( 519997 ) on Wednesday August 05, 2009 @07:45PM (#28966053)
    I can't see any reference to the latest BIND vulnerability [cert.org] being fixed by Apple in the Mac OS X Server. It's vulnerable [cert.org] and has been fixed by other [cert.org] vendors [freebsd.org] so why not?

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Itsik ( 191227 )

      I doubt this patch actually warrants the version number, 1.5.8. IMHO it's just a tie over until the release of Snow Leopard.

      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        by Vectronic ( 1221470 )

        I'm not sure if Apple has any specific meaning to their Major.Minor.Maintenance(.Build) that you might be referring to, but this to me certainly seems worthy of a 0.0.1 (10.5.7 to 10.5.8)... It doesn't add any significant new features (as a 0.1.0 would/should), basically just bug fixes and tweaks. What would you suggest? 10.5.7.5.xxxx?

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by moon3 ( 1530265 )
      So much money, so little motivation..

      Macs are blessed against bugs, faults or viruses anyway.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by rekoil ( 168689 )

      The version in 10.5.8 is still 9.4.3-P1. (9.4.3-P3 is the patched rev).

    • Released August 12th...

      http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3776 [apple.com]

  • One must wonder, (Score:5, Interesting)

    by WiiVault ( 1039946 ) on Wednesday August 05, 2009 @08:03PM (#28966213)
    if Leopard will have a long support life since it is the final revision to support Power PC. As an owner of a a few G5's I sure hope so.

    • Re:One must wonder, (Score:5, Informative)

      by rsmith-mac ( 639075 ) on Wednesday August 05, 2009 @08:48PM (#28966609)

      I'd expect it to be like any other OS X release: Full support as long as it's the leading version, followed by limited support (just security updates) when it's the previous version, and finally all support is dropped when it's two versions back. So its support life would be as long as 10.6 is the leading version.

      • But Apple has been known to release updates simply to kill older hardware (look at OS 8.5).

        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          by Nimey ( 114278 )

          lolwhut? Nobody forced you to upgrade past 8.1 if you had a 68K Mac, and dropping support for the old ones was necessary to speed up the newer PPC Macs, because prior to that release a bunch of code was unoptimized or just 68K code running in emulation.

          Much like 10.5 and PPC Macs, really. Don't know if you've used Leopard on a PPC Mac, but even dual G5s can be a bit poky compared to Intel Macs, and forget about running it on a G4.

    • Re:One must wonder, (Score:4, Informative)

      by CAIMLAS ( 41445 ) on Wednesday August 05, 2009 @10:47PM (#28967457)

      If anything, it'll have a shorter lifecycle than previous versions, I think.

      Why? Because you already have both 10.5 and a PPC. You don't have the latest, greatest Apple product, so you will not be giving them any more money.

      The crazy thing about Macs is that, once Apple stops offering support/releases a new OS, you can rarely find applications - even the ones you'd used previosuly on the same OS - for them. Companies upgrade their products to -only- support the new system. A year ago I was looking for some software (any software, really) for a 10.4 machine. Guess what? Most downloadable/free stuff was Universal Binary only, and very few commercial products supported 10.4. Why? It's not that old.

      • Re:One must wonder, (Score:4, Informative)

        by buysse ( 5473 ) on Wednesday August 05, 2009 @11:10PM (#28967629) Homepage

        Because CoreData and the other improvements to the API and Xcode are useful. If y'all are programming for free, or nearly free (shareware), there's not much incentive to use older tools.

      • Guess what? Most downloadable/free stuff was Universal Binary only, and very few commercial products supported 10.4. Why? It's not that old.

        The PPC version of 10.4 supports universal binary applications. Just make sure you have the 10.4 box fully patched via Software Update.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by paimin ( 656338 )
        Universal Binary means it does work on PPC. I run 10.4 on a Powerbook G4, and I can run the latest of most of the software I need regularly. A few things are not the latest version, like Open Office, but the PPC version is still available.

        I wouldn't say this effect is really that much different from the Windows world, although MS does make a lot more effort to keep backwards compatibility (to a fault).
  • I don't understand why they need to force their customers to update to Safari 4, i'm sure a lot of people like safari 3 just fine,
    • I don't understand why Microsoft forces their customers to update to Internet Explorer 7, I'm sure a lot of people like Internet Explorer 6 just fine.
      • I honestly always found that a bit strange myself. I -wanted- to keep IE 6 on my box simply to test code (and the fact that IE 7 is/was awful).

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by Savior_on_a_Stick ( 971781 )

      IE on OS X FTW!

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by JordanL ( 886154 )
      Firefox's constant bitching about updating and what version I run is WAY more annoying than anything Microsoft or Apple do on my systems.

      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        by dbcad7 ( 771464 )

        Edit...Preferences...Advanced...Update...
        The radio buttons are self explanatory.

        "So easy a caveman can do it"

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by JordanL ( 886154 )
          I use Opera. A lot of Firefox users argument against Opera comes down to "I don't want my browser to do everything Opera does". But guess what, I don't want to have to tell my browser to be user friendly. I just want it to be user friendly. Between all the work on my computer I don't take the time to go through all the configuration options on everything. I just can't.

          Thanks for the information, I've fixed it now. But as I recall, you have the same options for both Apple and Mixrosoft updates, so I fail

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by dbcad7 ( 771464 )
            Your point was, that updates were annoying you.. I pointed you into the direction of eliminating that annoyance.. I should also point out to you, that there is a reason behind the updates.. they fix bugs and security issues... Here is the ironic part.. You see there are users who can't be bothered to take time to go through all the configuration options, they just can't.. so to protect them, they have it set to update automatically by default.

            • Re: (Score:2)

              by JordanL ( 886154 )
              I recognize the irony... I'm a web developer... I have a test system where I purposely keep several versions of FireFox for testing purposes because of how many different versions there are out there and how many people don't update and such (along with multiple versions of IE and all).

              I only posted what I did because someone called out Safari for forcing updates. (although Firefox thankfully won't update you across a major revision automatically.)

      • Firefox's constant bitching about updating and what version I run is WAY more annoying than anything Microsoft or Apple do on my systems.

        Yes, the bitching is bad, but I run it because I can count on it to be standards compliant. That in itself beats the hell out of any whiz-bang you get with Safari.

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by radicimo ( 33693 )

      Use Pacifist and extract Safari3 from your install disk. It'll install alongside Safari 4. I know because my employer *ahem* advised us not to run Safari v.4 when it was first released, but I didn't catch the email until after I ran a full set of updates upon return from a week's absence.

      • Or just download it from here - the guy has bundled the proper version of WebKit inside the application. If you haven't done that (I'm not aware of how Pacifist works) you're actually just using the new version of WebKit inside the old application. http://michelf.com/projects/multi-safari/ [michelf.com]

  • Safari Scrolling Issues (Score:4, Interesting)

    by xrayspx ( 13127 ) on Wednesday August 05, 2009 @09:19PM (#28966779) Homepage
    Anyone have any word on the Safari scrolling bugs? It's been a problem since 4.0 (but not with the betas), described and [apple.com]there [youtube.com].

    I'll install it, but this takes a day or so to manifest usually. I didn't see anything jump out in the patch notes, but they're kind of sparse on the details anyway.

  • Surprised at the lack of comments, considering the patches cover arbitrary code execution due to many vulnerabilities that even arise when reading png images or xml files!

    Luckily there seem to be more talented security researchers and programmers who like the Mac than there are crackers who find it worth the effort.

    I still want a mac though!

    • Luckily there seem to be more talented security researchers and programmers who like the Mac than there are crackers who find it worth the effort.

      *gasps* There's two of them now?!

  • Oh boy oh boy can I run it on linux? huh? :)

  • YMMV, but I had no trouble using Software Update to get to 10.5.8 on a G31M-ES2L based Hackintosh.

    • I had to try twice to get it to acknowledge the update being available for my PowerBook G4 Titanium (though it is a 14.4 Kbps cell modem connection).

      Hopefully the Download Only option will work this time. My install disk is for 10.5.0 and I had to reinstall once already to a new 320 GB hard drive(*). I've been having problems with it telling me updates could not be saved (due to a sudden inability to contact the update server) and with "Install and Keep Package" not keeping the package. It's as if some upda

  • Apple used to steer clear of throwing up unnecessary warning dialogs, but since they screwed up Safari's security with "open safe files after downloading" they don't seem to have figured out that they don't NEED to keep bugging people with warnings. They've turned "open safe files" off by default. They don't need to keep quarantining downloaded files any more.

    CoreTypes

    CVE-ID: CVE-2009-1727

    Available for: Mac OS X v10.5 through v10.5.7, Mac OS X Server v10.5 through v10.5.7

    Impact: Users are not warned before

    • Let me correct what, in retrospect, is probably going to prove to be unfortunate wording.

      I predict that some slashtard is going to read "once I've downloaded a file, just effing open it" to mean that I want to turn on the stupid "open safe files" without a dialog. I should have written "once I've downloaded a file, just let me effing open it without whining at me". That clear?

      I hope the slashtards bother to read this reply before posting. I suspect some won't.

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