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Underground Mac Community Foils a Coup

Posted by kdawson on Sun Sep 09, 2007 04:24 PM
from the fortunately-bloodless dept.
An anonymous reader writes "In an attempted palace coup that would not have been out of place in a Shakespearian tragedy, a moderator faction at Mac Serial Junkie, one of the largest underground Mac communities, was shut out this weekend after it was discovered that many staff members were plotting a coup. The plans included a surreptitious takeover of the domain name macserialjunkie.com. In an Open Letter to the Community, the founders of MSJ explain how a number of people at the highest levels of the underground planned their takeover activities for almost two years, only to be foiled at the last minute."
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  • Who cares? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 09 2007, @04:26PM (#20531051)
    I assume this is some sort of piracy forum, but regardless, who cares? This stuff happens all the time on forums and IRC. Owner X doesn't do much/disappears leaving Y in charge. Y gets upset that he's doing all the work while X enjoys ownership. Y plots takeover, and either does or fail and is replaced by Z.
    • Re:Who cares? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 09 2007, @04:30PM (#20531097)
      Yea, it's a site to swap software serial numbers. Amusing that people who are content to rip off other people's hard work suddenly think they have the moral high ground when they're about to be ripped off themselves. Pot, kettle, etc.
      • by gEvil (beta) (945888) on Sunday September 09 2007, @04:50PM (#20531261)
        Pot, kettle, etc.

        Boiling water? Tea? Why yes, I would love a spot of tea.
      • Drat! (Score:5, Funny)

        by peacefinder (469349) <[moc.liamg] [ta] [ttiwed.nala]> on Sunday September 09 2007, @06:01PM (#20531861) Journal
        "Yea, it's a site to swap software serial numbers."

        Darn, I was hoping it was a site about Mac serial ports. I was gonna go ask a question...
        • Re:Who cares? (Score:5, Insightful)

          by Foerstner (931398) on Sunday September 09 2007, @06:24PM (#20532059)

          Are we talking about the CEO who laid off half the development team, required the remainder to work over time, and then gave himself a bonus by firing the rest after the product went gold or the pirates?

          I say this because more than naught developers are underpaid for their work and then have the hounds released on them by the bean counters when quarter figures need to look better.


          Nice little Freudian slip there.

          I'd wager that most of the successful commercial software companies treat their developers with a modicum of dignity. Sure, there have been dozens of exceptions over the years, but by and large it's hard to stay in the business if you treat your programmers like shit. It's a good way to make sure your company is a one-hit wonder. Perhaps that's why Adobe, Microsoft, and Google have all been on the "Best Companies to Work For" list, as have other software firms. They may not please all of their employees, but they generally have a reputation for taking care of their own.

          It's often a meaner existence for programmers who work for non-software companies like financial or logistics firms--they're viewed as a "cost," not a revenue stream.
    • by ksheff (2406) on Sunday September 09 2007, @05:01PM (#20531367) Homepage
      CmdrTaco is getting scared that CowboyNeal is going to take over.
      • by quanticle (843097) on Sunday September 09 2007, @04:31PM (#20531101) Homepage

        No kidding. This is like the stories about scams and drama in EVE Online, but even more irrelevant.

        • This is one story that I honestly feel could be deleted, and no one would care.

          Because no one cares.

          Get this off the front page.
          • Re:tag this whocares (Score:5, Interesting)

            by 24-bit Voxel (672674) on Sunday September 09 2007, @09:11PM (#20533273) Journal
            Funny you should mention this. When I was just a kid of about 12 or 13 years old the going modem rate was 2400 baud and BBS's were where it was at. The rules to get access to the adult sections were always crazy like send in a photocopy of a drivers license, and often times pretending to be a girl and flirting with the sysop gained you entry within 10 minutes, no ID required. Most of the time I just typed out word for word the bs letters from penthouse/playboy I'd found in my dad's closet. (In these days porn 'video' found online was usually about 12 frames of animation that was looped very well so the male was in a perpetual thrusting motion. Hilarious.)


            The best is when they called you out for downloading porn that obviously was predominately female, and telling the sysop that you really liked girls as well as guys and before you know it you have superuser status. You could download all kinds of things with that. (I think this is how I played police quest 2.) I remember having to setup fake 'meetings' with some of these sysops, just to keep status for a few more days. Nothing elevated user privelages faster than the possibility of some "hot chick" who is into girls and wants to meet you. Then I'd hide out for a few months and repeat the process all over again.


            My pops at the time didn't have unlimited local calling for the phone line and our first months phone bill was something like 700 dollars. Ah, those were the days.

            Anyway, don't always assume that the "chatroom moderator" isn't just out to find some busty images back in those days. Often it was guys pretending to be girls.

      • by sg3000 (87992) * <sg_public@NospaM.mac.com> on Sunday September 09 2007, @04:40PM (#20531167)
        > tag this whocares

        No, there's too much of a risk that someone will think that Dr. Who or those simpletons the Grinch was ripping off actually care about this tempest in a teapot.

        It would make more sense if Slashdot started a section specifically for stories like this. They could combine it with stories about changing alliances among pre-teen girls at our local Junior High School and which C-list celebrities are feuding with their former cast members. They could even reuse the OMG Ponies theme.
        • by quanticle (843097) on Sunday September 09 2007, @04:52PM (#20531283) Homepage

          Yes, and to further drive home the distinction, they could even place it under a different domain. Something like, Fark.com [fark.com] perhaps...

          /kidding
          //this is probably too irrelevant even for Fark
          ///slashies on Slashdot

          • by mikael (484) on Sunday September 09 2007, @05:12PM (#20531459)
            Yes, and to further drive home the distinction, they could even place it under a different domain.

            Perhaps the Mac Serial Junkie People's Front?

            or the Popular Front of Mac Serial Junkie?

            or even the People's Front of Mac Serial Junkie?

            but not to be confused with the Popular Front of Mac Serial Junkie.
        • Oh god... (Score:5, Funny)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 09 2007, @05:01PM (#20531363)
          You know I'm going to hold you personally responsible for this if they create gossip.slashdot.org. I can just hear them now discussing how popular sites like TMZ and The Smoking Gun are.

          On the plus side, though, it might bring more girls to Slashdot.
  • by dekkerdreyer (1007957) <dekkerdreyer&gmail,com> on Sunday September 09 2007, @04:39PM (#20531155)
    This is quite a soap opera, but I think only people who regularly post on those forums could really care. So here's to the three of you.

    Next week on slashdot: How one moderator over at knittingmachines.org thwarted an attempt by 31337gr4ndm4 to copy the patterns of beloved moderator iknit4u.
  • by Cait Sidhe (1026312) on Sunday September 09 2007, @04:50PM (#20531265)
    Internets: Serious Business
  • tag: firehoseabuse (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Nimey (114278) on Sunday September 09 2007, @05:02PM (#20531373) Homepage Journal
    I see the trolls are gaming the firehose.
  • by Stevecat (198954) on Sunday September 09 2007, @05:03PM (#20531397) Homepage
    SmR writes
    "In an attempted anthill coup that would not have been out of place in a tragic Discovery Channel special, the red ants in my backyard, owners of one of the largest anthills underground in my backyard, were doused with gasoline this weekend after it was discovered that a faction of the worker ants were plotting a coup. The plans included an unprecedented and sneaky incursion into my kitchen trash containing an old big Mac, cereal, and tasty junk. In an unexpected move I placed some honey-soaked borax in their trail and the poison infiltrated into the highest levels of their underground empire. Then dousing thier anthill with gasoline I ended their reign of almost two years, and thus they were foiled before my wife got home."

    Honestly, I think my story is more interesting.

    SmR
    • Re:Hypocrisy (Score:5, Insightful)

      by jjohnson (62583) on Sunday September 09 2007, @09:08PM (#20533247) Homepage
      Not quite. Regardless of ./ers participation in Eve, it's well known that it's a 100K strong community, so any interesting community dynamics are newsworthy, moreso because they reflect on the MMO genre itself.

      Most of the reason this is a non-story is that there's a total of four people with two servers involved. I'm far from certain that there's more than 100 people who even give a shit about the 'attempted coup'.