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Apple Officially Releases Beta Dual Boot Loader

Posted by CmdrTaco on Wed Apr 05, 2006 09:35 AM
from the at-least-it-wasn't-an-april-fools-joke dept.
Slippy Douglas writes "Apparently, Apple has made good on one of the 30th anniversary product rumours. Apple today announced the Boot Camp Public Beta, which allows Intel Macs to easily and legally multi-boot. Boot Camp will be a standard feature in Mac OS X 10.5."
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  • by daveschroeder (516195) * <`ude.csiw.tiod' `ta' `sad'> on Wednesday April 05 2006, @09:37AM (#15065706) Homepage
    But, some notes:

    - Even the existing http://onmac.net/ [onmac.net] solution wasn't "illegal" or against any Apple or Microsoft license agreement - not saying the summary said that, but it kind of implied it might be

    - The HUGE difference with Boot Camp is that it includes Windows XP driver profiles for Apple-specific hardware - including video drivers! Hello games and video intensive Windows software!

    - Another big difference is that it includes a live repartitioning tool so the drive doesn't have to be reformatted to install Windows as the current solution requires

    - And, it wraps everything up in a nice "setup assistant"-like interface

    - It does burn a custom Windows XP installation disc (no, this does not violate any Microsoft or Windows license agreement, as making custom Windows installation discs has been routine in IT shops for years)

    - Currently, it looks like it supports only Windows XP SP2, not any multi-disc XP-based installations (or other non-Windows OSes), but since Media Center is already working with the other solution by making a custom installation disc, I have no doubts that it could work with this as well

    It's pretty incredible that Apple has decided to do this, to say the least.

    However, the true benefit for many people won't come from dual-booting, but from running Windows (or any other x86 OS) in a virtualization environment alongside OS X with no dual booting or rebooting needed.

    Virtualization company Parallels [parallels.com] announced that it will be bringing its Parallels Workstation virtualization product to Intel-based Macs [techworld.com]. Parallels is a hypervisor-based (with a kernel module) virtual machine solution already shipping for Windows and Linux, and is the first desktop virtualization product to support Intel VT/Vanderpool CPU "partitioning". It's also only $50. Parallels also has a long list of officially supported guest OSes [parallels.com], and that's just the ones that are *officially* supported. So either way, we'll have a nice dual boot solution AND a nice virtualization solution!

    So Boot Camp will be standard with Leopard...great. What about the thing that a lot of us actually want, virtualization from Apple, rumored to be in Leopard [macrumors.com]? And not just virtualization to run x86 OSes, but to also run multiple instances of Intel-variants of Mac OS X and Mac OS X Server (*as well* as any other x86 OS)? Now THAT would be the holy grail. Desktop virtualization for things like Windows and Linux/BSD environments, and server virtualization for multiple Mac OS X/Mac OS X Server instances on a single box.

    Since Apple has shown it's been officially willing to acknowledge the alternate OS/Windows universe on Intel-based Macs, I actually have a lot more hope for native, integrated virtualization in Leopard as well!
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 05 2006, @09:38AM (#15065726)
    You get the stability of Windows with the value-of-money of Apple hardware. Sign me up.
  • by Comics (464489) on Wednesday April 05 2006, @09:38AM (#15065728) Homepage
    A bit late for April Fools isn't it? Hell is freezing over...
  • Doh! (Score:5, Funny)

    by toupsie (88295) on Wednesday April 05 2006, @09:39AM (#15065739) Homepage
    Steve Jobs just missed out on winning $12,000 in the boot XP on a Mac contest!!! And you know the dude needs the cash since he is only paid $1 a year as Apple's CEO. I bet he is just kicking himself right now.
  • Damn. We were almost lucky enough to lose a CNET columnist [slashdot.org]. Oh well, I guess the life insurance policy I took out on him will never come to fruition ...
  • weird (Score:5, Funny)

    by trybywrench (584843) on Wednesday April 05 2006, @09:44AM (#15065783)
    I'm not sure how i'd feel about having xp boot on my mac. It's like making out with your 2nd cousin, yeah sure you're making out with someone but it just doesn't feel right.
    • Re:weird (Score:5, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 05 2006, @10:10AM (#15066049)
      Especially when your cousin is about 300lbs., five feet tall, has severe odor and acne problems, and is named "Windows".
  • by sdpurns (877396) on Wednesday April 05 2006, @09:45AM (#15065797)
    What I find hilarious is that Apple's interpretation of the Windows logo is the first time it's ever looked good. This is the ultimate switch campaign. It is so on.
  • by minginqunt (225413) on Wednesday April 05 2006, @09:46AM (#15065803) Homepage Journal
    When Intel's Merom/Conroe Core Duos start hitting Macs with Intel VT support, expect Leopard's BootCamp to grow a hypervisor.

    Being able to run MacOS X and Windows, at native speeds, will rock my Jesus.

    No more apologising for a Mac's inability to play games. W00t.

  • by kimvette (919543) on Wednesday April 05 2006, @09:46AM (#15065812) Homepage
    which allows Intel Macs to easily and legally multi-boot.


    If you buy an Intel-based Mac, what is illegal about dual-booting another OS on it in the first place, hmmmm?
  • by yardbird (165009) * on Wednesday April 05 2006, @09:55AM (#15065888) Homepage
    I love the lukewarm condescension towards XP:


    "Apple has no desire or plan to sell or support Windows, but many customers have expressed their interest to run Windows on Apple's superior hardware now that we use Intel processors," said Philip Schiller, Apple's senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing, in a voice dripping with disdain.


    Also eyebrow-raising, Apple's take on the XP logo:

    http://images.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/images/par tition20060405.gif [apple.com]
  • by Have Blue (616) on Wednesday April 05 2006, @10:05AM (#15065998) Homepage
    Isn't this a disincentive to make Mac-native software? Why develop for a tiny fraction of the market when you can develop for the other 95% and wait for the remaining holdouts to install Windows on their Macs?
  • by Anonymous Meoward (665631) on Wednesday April 05 2006, @10:05AM (#15066001)

    Excuse me while I burn a little karma. I loved this bit from the web page:

    Macs use an ultra-modern industry standard technology called EFI to handle booting. Sadly, Windows XP, and even the upcoming Vista, are stuck in the 1980s with old-fashioned BIOS. But with Boot Camp, the Mac can operate smoothly in both centuries.

  • by alexhs (877055) on Wednesday April 05 2006, @10:09AM (#15066047) Homepage Journal
    ... to create an alternative ms-windows logo better than the original ! :)
    • by shippo (166521) on Wednesday April 05 2006, @09:45AM (#15065789)
      To multi-boot before this you had to use drivers that had been hacked and probably violated someones copyright. This system generates a proper driver disk, and is also probably why the download is 83GB as it'll contain drivers for all of the Intel mac platforms.

      Makes me want to pick up that Macbook Pro now!
    • by ahknight (128958) * on Wednesday April 05 2006, @09:50AM (#15065854) Homepage
      Wow. You really can't read.

      The 83MB is not the bootloader. It's the EFI module and the Windows drivers for the Apple hardware that you have to burn to CD to install in Windows after you get it going. Read more slowly next time.
    • by ElektroHolunder (514550) on Wednesday April 05 2006, @10:06AM (#15066014)
      You cannot use the update versions for a trivial reason: when installing an update version, Windows setup prompts for an update-eligible install disk . Which you cannot provide since you're unable to eject the disk from your drive until you install the Apple driver package.
    • Front Line Report (Score:5, Interesting)

      by CheeseburgerBlue (553720) on Wednesday April 05 2006, @10:03AM (#15065971) Homepage Journal
      I'm a professional Mac user who runs Windows under Virtual PC regularly. Having access to both operating systems strengthens my appreciation of OS X, not the opposite.

      I pay for OS X, because it's relatively suck-free. Windows installs grow on trees.

      Why would I ditch OS X? If I wanted a free system I'd go back to Linux.

    • Re:and when (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Angostura (703910) on Wednesday April 05 2006, @10:03AM (#15065977)
      Because any smart business knows that the key to success is giving the customer what they want. In this case, Apple knows that a proportion of their customer base and potential customer base would like to be able to boot into Windows. Letting them do so easily has the potential to sell more boxes, full stop.

      The only reason for Apple not allowing XP booting would be if Apple were truly scared. If it thought that OS X wasn't up to snuff and the OS X applications (iLife, iWork et al) were lame, then it should shy away from Windows booting. Instead it is trusting its technology and giving its users more options.

      People who like OS X will continue to buy Macs. People who like Windows *may* now buy a Mac, and learn about OS X

      The only real potential downside I see is that app writers get one more excuse not to write Mac apps, but to be honest, I don't see a substantial shift in that from today; views are already well entrenched.