


Stolen iPhones from an Apple Store Remotely Disabled, Started Blaring Alarms (indiatimes.com) 106
Earlier this week looters who stole iPhones "got an unexpected message from Apple," reports the Economic Times.
"Please return to Apple Tower Theatre. This device has been disabled and is being tracked. Local authorities will be alerted."
Stolen phones "were remotely locked and triggered alarms, effectively turning the devices into high-tech bait. Videos circulating online show the phones flashing the message while blaring loudly, making them impossible to ignore." According to LAPD Officer Chris Miller, at least three suspects were apprehended in connection to the Apple Store burglary. One woman was arrested on the spot, while two others were detained for looting.
"Please return to Apple Tower Theatre. This device has been disabled and is being tracked. Local authorities will be alerted."
Stolen phones "were remotely locked and triggered alarms, effectively turning the devices into high-tech bait. Videos circulating online show the phones flashing the message while blaring loudly, making them impossible to ignore." According to LAPD Officer Chris Miller, at least three suspects were apprehended in connection to the Apple Store burglary. One woman was arrested on the spot, while two others were detained for looting.
Looting (Score:2, Funny)
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So was Jan 6th. https://www.npr.org/2024/10/29... [npr.org]
So peaceful that orange jesus had to pardon everyone involved.
Re: Looting (Score:3, Insightful)
To be fair, you have masked agents of government yanking people off the street with no due process, just a 'trust me they are bad people'.
The resulting violence is a predictable outcome
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Re: Looting (Score:2)
It's not about apple. It's about creating the circumstances that trigger looting in the first place.
Re: Looting (Score:4, Insightful)
Ah, you must mean cities.
Re: Looting (Score:1)
Re: Looting (Score:2)
Understanding is not justifying.
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Yes, there were never any riots or looting before Jan 2025.
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To be fair, you have masked agents of government yanking people off the street with no due process, just a 'trust me they are bad people'.
Oh, come on now. It's not like their probably cause is they're not white, they must be illegal!
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You don't understand, looting Apple and Nike store is just a form of reparations for white colonial cisnormative patriarchical ablelist oppression.
You forgot fascocapitalist. :-)
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If this is the case, then we clearly need a troop reinforcement with additional manpower to re-inforce our colonial cisnormative whatever the hell that is "oppression" and make sure this looting 1. shit stops happening. 2. doesn't happen again. And
3. Every person involved in smashed the storefront and stolen iphones or anyone assisting or facilitating that type of behavior Or events leading to that behavior at the place that happened goes to prison and never gets released on the streets in the US aga
Re: Looting (Score:2)
I don't get it. Are we only allowed to denounce one of them?
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I don't get it. Are we only allowed to denounce one of them?
Correct, the one not committed by your team. :-)
Re: Looting (Score:2)
I don't even know what team I'm supposed to be on. Generally I consider myself to be very liberal, but that refers to enlightenment era liberalism, which during the french revolution generally meant you sat on the left side of the room. Except those guys would guillotine anybody who either looked rich or just plain wasn't enthusiastic enough about Maxmillan Robespierre, so they probably would have guillotined me. But for whatever reason people still insist on that terminology, which never had any relevance
Western liberalism ... (Score:2)
I don't even know what team I'm supposed to be on.
Ask a college student. :-)
Generally I consider myself to be very liberal, but that refers to enlightenment era liberalism
I'm down with liberalism in the sense of western liberalism. For you college students out there, western liberalism is founded upon European, North African, Middle Eastern, and Persian philosophies. I pass on the Soviet reimagining of liberalism popular with the college professors. Again, for the college student readers out there, academia, like the internet, has trolls too. It's just that in academia they are better paid and an audience is provided.
Re: Western liberalism ... (Score:2)
"Yeah, I'm a college student" (Score:2)
At those schools you indicate favor Soviet influenced liberalism, they actually aren't that into communism and are really into democracy.
Nope. They are very much anti-western liberalism. Neomarxist. Here in the USA at least. Remnants of various 1960s/70s era marxist and maoist inspired radicals. Think Weather Underground; arsons, bombers and political murders. When their support evaporated as the Vietnam War ended, which greatly disappointed them (the support evaporating), they decided to work from the inside, in particular academia. Today's anti-west colonial oppressor ideology comes straight from these 60s/70s radicals, which adopted it fr
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Nope. They are very much anti-western liberalism. Neomarxist. Here in the USA at least. Remnants of various 1960s/70s era marxist and maoist inspired radicals. .
I mean, I went to one of those "liberal" schools, and I learned a lot about democracy from authors such as Robert Dahl and Samuel Huntington; and a lot about how communism sucks and what led to the fall of Soviet Russia. The same professors I had less than 20 years ago are still there, at least all of them in the Political Science department. I'm not sure what you think goes on for the majority of students in these schools, but someone has to teach people who in the future will work in campaigns and ele
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There's of course people into radical politics and ideology, ...
I am not talking about peaceful people who ideologically believe in and support communism. I am referring to people who desire actual revolution and an overthrow of the US government. For the latter, part of the work involves undermining faith in western liberalism and US institutions.
... but that's true for many institutes of higher education on the other side too -- like Liberty University, or Brigham Young.
Which are the counterparts to the peaceful ideological individuals I refer to above. Not the radical revolutionaries.
I'd rather my children be exposed to "radical communist ideologies," which they can disagree with and make fun of the scatterbrained hippies should they choose ...
To be clear, I am not referring to hippy protesters of the 1960s/70s. I am referring to people who crossed t
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At those schools you indicate favor Soviet influenced liberalism, they actually aren't that into communism and are really into democracy.
While the soviets said communism was their official philosophy, they were in fact socialist. And all communists claim to like democracy, but (and Karl Marx supported this) that there was to be no freedom of speech (and effectively, no democracy either) until they complete the revolution and fully transition to communism, which in practice never actually happens. You might also notice that at least some democrats going all the way back to FDR have supported the so-called economic bill of rights. Bernie and A
Re: Looting (Score:2)
Re: Looting (Score:2)
What would I admit to? I've been saying this the entire time. The only dissenting opinion I've ever had about this is referring to it as a siege or an insurrection, I've always referred to it as a riot based on stupid conspiracy theories.
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As long as you admit that the January 6th criminals are one and the same. I guess all the 3 looters needed to do was say trump won the election and wear a stupid outfit and they can crime away with no consequences.
Yup. And he wants to arrest and prosecute the (actually very few) people who caused (are causing) trouble in LA, so the lesson here is: Wear MAGA stuff and limit your looting, rioting, and property destruction to The Capital building, in DC, then sit back and wait for the pardon ...
For white-collar crimes: Get your mom to donate $1M to Trump and attend Mar-a-Lago dinner, and get pardoned: Trump Pardoned Tax Cheat After Mom Attended $1M Mar-a-Lago Dinner [thedailybeast.com]
Apple devices are difficult to steal (Score:5, Interesting)
Last year our office was broken into. Thieves stole a bunch of stuff, including some Apple laptops and ipads. We filed a police report, but it looked like they could not care less. I looked up the location of the devices and drove there. It was an apartment complex. I called the police. They did not want to knock on any doors and left. But it was enough to spook the thieves. They drove off after the police left and dumped the stolen equipment 10 miles away. I was able to recover almost all of our equipment, including several Windows laptops that were not trackable.
Re:Apple devices are difficult to steal (Score:5, Interesting)
Less than 10% [ppic.org] are cleared in California now, and yes, they used to be better at it.
I'd say "demand better politicians who will demand better cops", but, hey, we're speedrunning the authoritarian shithole path (we are on to political assassinations as of today), so, uh, that ship has sailed.
If it makes you feel better (Score:2, Interesting)
Of course I don't think anyone is going to like the knock-on effects of that. Especially if you get accused. Heck it would be pretty easy to make somebody go away just by planting a stolen iPhone on them at that point.
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As we convert our prisons into slave labor camps I suspect they will become very interested in minor property crime.
you mean like since the (18)60s?
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Who is "we"? And nobody wants slave labor in an automated future.
Re: If it makes you feel better (Score:2)
And nobody wants slave labor in an automated future.
Not the "sharpest bulb". The robots will clean your house, cook your food and wash your flying jetson-like car.
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Has Trump condemned the violence yet? Or has he posted some juvenile meme to celebrate it? My money is on the latter.
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Look at the United Healthcare CEO shooting. A nationwide manhunt with dozens of agencies involved. Days later two teenagers were stabbed on the street after being asked if they spoke English. I bet the case is still open. https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/... [go.com]
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It's still open; police have only arrested two of the three suspects:
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/... [go.com]
https://www.nydailynews.com/20... [nydailynews.com]
Note that the second story makes it clear that this flight was because of gang affiliations, not because of xenophobia. See also https://nypost.com/2024/12/10/... [nypost.com] .
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Everywhere I've lived, cops are generally utterly disinterested in property crime unless the victim is connected, the loss is huge or the media gets interested. Less than 10% are cleared in California now, and yes, they used to be better at it.
We used to prosecute it. That's part of the feedback loop too.
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Everywhere I've lived, cops are generally utterly disinterested in property crime unless the victim is connected, the loss is huge or the media gets interested.
Less than 10% [ppic.org] are cleared in California now, and yes, they used to be better at it.
I'd say "demand better politicians who will demand better cops", but, hey, we're speedrunning the authoritarian shithole path (we are on to political assassinations as of today), so, uh, that ship has sailed.
Kind of a waste investigating property crimes if there are no legal consequences. What do you think is the message to the cop who arrests the same person for the same thing over and over again? Maybe this is not where our efforts are best spent?
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Everywhere I've lived, cops are generally utterly disinterested in property crime unless the victim is connected, the loss is huge or the media gets interested.
Less than 10% [ppic.org] are cleared in California now, and yes, they used to be better at it.
This is why we of the dark side value the Second Amendment and keep iy holy.
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Probably all our resources are allocated towards anti-drug enforcement. Also, when enforcing those laws police get to seize and keep the cash. If it's just stolen property: police have to try and return that shit once it's found.. which doesn't get them paid as much as getting to seize and keep millions from a drug bust.
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A friend lost his iPhone to a pickpocket in Paris a couple of years back (can't remember when) and when he got back home he checked its location. Sofia, Bulgaria. No chance of getting that back.
As for an office break-in, around 15-17 years ago the company I was working for upgraded everything from Windows NT4 (really!) to Windows XP. The whole thing was handled by subcontracters and they were very active for a couple of days. The next day I came into the office at 7 am and started work normally, a few m
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Too bad that Apple doesn't offer the same disable/blaring alarm service to people who have their phone stolen.
Re: Apple devices are difficult to steal (Score:2)
You should have courage. Also you are not important thats why.
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If you want tracking on Windows laptops, Lenovo and Dell both offer it. Probably HP as well.
I'm not sure how useful this will be for iPhones though. Aren't they generally broken down for parts?
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If you want tracking on Windows laptops, Lenovo and Dell both offer it. Probably HP as well.
I'm not sure how useful this will be for iPhones though. Aren't they generally broken down for parts?
And people wonder why Apple electronically Serializes some Components. . .
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And people wonder why Apple electronically Serializes some Components. . .
Nobody wonders. It is to lock down your repair options.
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Last year our office was broken into. Thieves stole a bunch of stuff, including some Apple laptops and ipads. We filed a police report, but it looked like they could not care less. I looked up the location of the devices and drove there. It was an apartment complex. I called the police. They did not want to knock on any doors and left. But it was enough to spook the thieves. They drove off after the police left and dumped the stolen equipment 10 miles away. I was able to recover almost all of our equipment, including several Windows laptops that were not trackable.
That's an excellent example on how the tracking capabilities of modern technology can work for us. Now, if only we can find ways to keep it from working against us.
I recall watching a movie where some thugs crash a party where a bunch of rich people were and he demanded everyone hand over wallets, jewelry, and cell phones. That movie was from 1995, and even with the movie that old I thought the phones back then would have the ability for remote disabling. I'm pretty sure that is the case. With 30 years
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That's an excellent example on how the tracking capabilities of modern technology can work for us. Now, if only we can find ways to keep it from working against us.
This type of tech requires that the company involved isn't, and doesn't become, evil. Because if they can remotely turn off your iPhone if it's stolen, they can also remotely turn it off if you owe them money for something unrelated, or if they don't like your politics. There's that thing about giving up liberty to gain security and all that.
... With 30 years of cell phones being disabled remotely would not looters know not to steal them by now? ...
Looters mostly aren't thinking or strategizing in the moment. A business for which I do IT was looted in the George Floyd peaceful protests. I was involved in proce
Duh? (Score:1)
Re:Duh? (Score:4, Insightful)
It's not really about recovery. It's about denying benefits to thieves.
Re: Duh? (Score:1)
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What the fuck does that have to do with stealing phones from Apple?
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These people should get full pardons and face no consequences for their criminal actions, just like trump's insurrections. What's fair is fair.
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Events from many years ago have absolutely nothing to do with the story in the article.
Moron.
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What did Apple steal? You don't like their terms, you can always pick up a Jitterbug Flip2 [bestbuy.com].
Re:Duh? (Score:5, Insightful)
To Apple, recovery of the stolen iphones may be less important than advertising loud and clear that these things are not worth stealing.
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Making the stolen phone worthless is what they want.
And from the video, the thieves did not get farther than across the street. No time to reach the ocean, or even a storm drain.
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If only the iPhones had GPS and some kind of wifi built in - then they could remotely report their location and forward it to the police.
If only.
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If only the iPhones had GPS and some kind of wifi built in - then they could remotely report their location and forward it to the police.
It would also be nice if they had front and rear cameras capable of snapping pictures of people surrounding them to upload along with said GPS location.
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But remember (Score:2, Insightful)
It's not about thieving, looting, destroying property and rioting in general. It's all about peaceful protests against enforcing the law.
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You don’t say. https://www.ft.com/content/ead... [ft.com]
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But they were charged with violations of LÃse-majesté laws (or Lese-majeste for Slashdot). It's OK to break the windows of your peers to make a statement (although the only statement I can parse out of that is "I hate plate glass"). You don't dare speak out against a monarch on his progress toward the day of ordination.
And all this on "No Kings' day.
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Yeah. Because stealing phones and setting cars on fire is "speaking out".
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You don’t say.
Oh, but I DO say!
prosecute (Score:2)
>"According to LAPD Officer Chris Miller, at least three suspects were apprehended in connection to the Apple Store burglary. One woman was arrested on the spot, while two others were detained for looting."
And will any of them actually be prosecuted and punished? Or will officials make all kinds of nonsense excuses for them?
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The phones belong to Apple. What do you think?
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And will any of them actually be prosecuted and punished? Or will officials make all kinds of nonsense excuses for them?
Arresting people is most of the work. Typically when someone is arrested for a property crime a prosecution follows. If the police actually didn't care, they wouldn't have gone there in the first place.
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No it literally doesn't. Not as far as individual departments are concerned. Prosecuting people involves the prosecution office, the evidence for which in a case like this is trivial. There's no complex detective work, no complex case, it's literally just file the paperwork and the brief from the police to the court and show up.
Re: prosecute (Score:2)
What color were the phones? (Score:3)
Arrest Me Black?
Re: What color were the phones? (Score:2)
Robbed Ruby or Vanished Violet.
Re: What color were the phones? (Score:2)
...or Nicked Nickel
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Purloined Purple, Stolen Silver and Burglary Blue.
My understanding is that most of the work phones issued to LA City political staffers is in Retard Red for easy identification.
If only (Score:2)
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If only. But it appears not. Apple was already paid for those phones. So, why give a sh*t anymore?
Sad, but this [theregister.com] take on the problem implies that theft and resale is (among certain political camps) considered to be a way to place digital technology into the hands of third world customers who would otherwise remain unconnected.
Re: If only (Score:2)
You want your phone to go into lockdown and sound alarms when you remove it from an Apple Store too?
Find My (Score:2)
Heartwarming (Score:2)
I love stories about smart tech vs. dumb thugs. On a much larger scale, that's also what's been happening this year in the Middle East.
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Amen.
It's all fine and dandy until you get hacked (Score:1)
About. Fucking. Time. (Score:2)
Theft ends when the incentive is negated.
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Theft ends when the incentive is negated.
The phone can still be harvested for parts. Not as lucrative to thieves as a fully functional iPhone, but there is still some money to be made.
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Even electronic parts have their own serial numbers these days.
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Sure, to a certain degree--many people have complained about the difficulties of DIY iPhone justice. But when Apple loses their own, suddenly new secret features come out.
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Very useful, but what's missing is:
1. Take and upload pictures or start/stop recording a live stream from front and back camera uploaded to the service.
2. Permanent text banner button (custom text banner that cannot be dismissed from the phone)
3. Permanent alarm-sound on/off button (custom alarm sound for X seconds with volume and mute buttons on the phone disabled; can only be muted/ended from findMy service)
Creepy but cool (Score:2)
Stealing DISPLAY phones (Score:1)