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Apple Won't Roll Out AI Tech In EU Market Over Regulatory Concerns (bloomberg.com) 84

Posted by msmash from the how-about-that dept.
Apple is withholding a raft of new technologies from hundreds of millions of consumers in the European Union, citing concerns posed by the bloc's regulatory attempts to rein in Big Tech. From a report: The company announced Friday it would block the release of Apple Intelligence, iPhone Mirroring and SharePlay Screen Sharing from users in the EU this year, because the Digital Markets Act allegedly forces it to downgrade the security of its products and services.

"We are concerned that the interoperability requirements of the DMA could force us to compromise the integrity of our products in ways that risk user privacy and data security," Apple said in a statement. Under the DMA, Apple is expected to receive a formal warning from EU regulators over how it allegedly blocks apps from steering users to cheaper subscription deals on the web -- a practice for which it received a $1.9 billion fine from Brussels regulators earlier this year.
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  • HA HA!!! (Score:3, Funny)

    by registrations_suck ( 1075251 ) on Friday June 21, 2024 @11:53AM (#64567177)

    HA HA!

    Says Nelson, of "The Simpsons" fame.

    • Nelson, we'll manage. We also manage without guns. We use our fists. *Thump*

      • Nelson, we'll manage. We also manage without guns. We use our fists. *Thump*

        [mutters to self...]

        "...and geez, I thought the last asshole was an idiot for bringing a knife to a gun fight...."

        • And a quote from Neil Brennan. Merry Christmas and welcome to the 2022 NRA-Military Showdown. Let us go down to the field of battle, meet one of our NRA combatants. What is your name? What kind of weapon? My nameâ(TM)s Andy Baker, and I got an AR-15, wearing Kevlar head-to-toe. How confident are you on a scale of 1 to 10? Fuckin a million. We are going to check in with the military. They cut to one guy by himself, in a bunker, and heâ(TM)s like, âoeMy name is Staff Sgt. Jeremiah Walk

          • And a quote from Neil Brennan. Merry Christmas and welcome to the 2022 NRA-Military Showdown. Let us go down to the field of battle, meet one of our NRA combatants. What is your name? What kind of weapon? My nameÃ(TM)s Andy Baker, and I got an AR-15, wearing Kevlar head-to-toe. How confident are you on a scale of 1 to 10? Fuckin a million. We are going to check in with the military. They cut to one guy by himself, in a bunker, and heÃ(TM)s like, ÃoeMy name is Staff Sgt. Jeremiah Walker. What

          • And a quote from Neil Brennan.

            Merry Christmas and welcome to the 2022 NRA-Military Showdown. Let us go down to the field of battle, meet one of our NRA combatants. What is your name? What kind of weapon? My nameâ(TM)s Andy Baker, and I got an AR-15, wearing Kevlar head-to-toe. How confident are you on a scale of 1 to 10? Fuckin a million. We are going to check in with the military. They cut to one guy by himself, in a bunker, and heâ(TM)s like, âoeMy name is Staff Sgt. Jeremiah Walker. What kind of weapon are you working with? I donâ(TM)t know if this is fair, but Iâ(TM)m working with a drone.

            It is equipped with eight Hellfire missiles and a high-power camera. As you can see on this monitor, the NRA fellas are in one big cluster. So, Iâ(TM)m going toâ¦. We started? All right. Yeah, so I am going to hit this button right here. Yeah, now they are all dead. That will do it for this years NRA-Military Showdown.

            Perfect!

  • Android phones have apparently walked into Apple EU marketing offices, sat in the boss's chair, put their feet on his desk and told him to make them a sammich.

  • They don't do something and blame the regulator: "See? You can't have nice things because of them. It's not out fault."

    Instead of releasing their shit in a way that complies with the law...

    • Thats apple for you.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      It may also just be that bad for Americans, and the EU is protecting citizens from it.

    • Well, the EU has been saying: If we deem you a gatekeeper, no preferential treatment of your own services. A new service deep linked into the entire OS sure feels like preferential treatment - especially where similar competing tools like ChatGPT or even Grammarly already exist. The penalty for misstep is measured in billions. I fail to see how ANY gatekeeper would launch a major new service in EU without express approval that it is not running afoul of the ever changing spirit of the rules.
    • What would you do in this case? They've spent probably a year cooking this up, and while they're in the process of getting the tech ready to roll out, the law is passed that says what they're already doing may be subject to sanction. You can't blame them for pausing to consider the implications before just loosing it on the EU and hoping it doesn't incur the wrath of the proactive regulators

  • So basically Apple has decided to take their ball and go home and have a cry because the EU doesn't want their particular flavor of competition-surly vendor lock-in.

    I'm sure all 50 people who give a fuck about this AI fad bullshit on their phone are going to lose sleep over this.

    • I think it's wise of them to at least pause the rollout and figure out if it violates the EU law. Doubtless they've been working on this since before the EU act came into being and now that it's here it changes their plans. I don't think they're going to close off the EU market forever. Apple didn't pass the law mid-stream here, the EU did. It's only prudent for them to NOT just roll out and pray they don't get spanked.
  • less buggy software for them.

  • Don't let the door hit you in the a** (Score:4, Interesting)

    by dgatwood ( 11270 ) on Friday June 21, 2024 @12:28PM (#64567327) Homepage Journal

    Dear Apple,

    Don't let the door hit you in the a** on your way out of Europe. Nobody cares about your whining. If you can't figure out how to comply with simple laws without using malicious compliance schemes to try to extort your way out of being regulated in the future, then you can just leave. The law is reasonable. Your behavior is not. You're acting like a bunch of f**king two-year-olds who were told that they had to share their toys.

    Europe deserves better. It's time for the EU to simply ban Apple from the entire common market. If they're going to ignore the law and deliberately cripple their devices to punish the EU for passing laws that they don't like, then that makes it abundantly clear that they are unwilling to comply with the law, so they should not be allowed to sell their products in Europe. It really is that simple. Enough is enough.

    BTW, the U.S. will be next. They know this. They're sabre-rattling to try to scare the U.S. into not following suit. It won't work. Nobody is amused or impressed by your little tantrum. Nobody.

    • Actually.. A LOT of the Apple customer base in Europe did not want the forced opening of the platform. I for one liked having it locked down. My trusted mobile in my pocket.. keep it locked up tight please. As for blocking me from running certain software or accessing whatever.. I have 10 other open platforms in my house to run that.. EU.. stop over-reaching to get control..

      • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

        by spacepimp ( 664856 )

        No one forces you to use an alternate payment provider. No one forces you to use an alternate app store. Some people naturally prefer servitude over freedom.

        • Nobody forces you to use a phone from an unfair company with walled garden either.

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

          No one forces you to use an alternate app store

          What are you talking about?

          This is the Delta emulator [apple.com]. This is a free app for everyone outside the EU.

          But it is not available inside the EU. The developer has specifically disallowed EU citizens from obtaining the app via the App Store.

          Instead, if you want this emulator, inside the EU, you must install the AltStore PAL alternate app store to obtain it. [theverge.com]This store charges €1.50/year to use it.

          So as an EU citizen, you're going to be forced to install altern

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by dgatwood ( 11270 )

        A LOT of the Apple customer base in Europe did not want the forced opening of the platform.

        Only because they don't understand enough about operating system architecture, and therefore believed Apple's rather flagrant lies about it. Nothing prevents Apple from implementing openness in a way that requires the user to take an additional step, such as turning on a switch in System Preferences, before third-party app store content will work. Therefore, nothing whatsoever about complying with the law inherently reduces the security of Apple devices in any way, shape or form, for users who choose not

      • Your trust is misplaced... you're exhibiting Stockholm Syndrome.
        That's in Europe right?
    • But why would they need to ban them? If the phones are crippled, then wouldn't the free market mean people will choose an alternative product? It is as if you believe the private company is required to provide any sort of server or product. They are not. People are also free to not buy the product if they things it doesn't meet their expectations. This is basically a case of an entity saying don't do something this way and then complaining when they decide would rather just not do it at all instead of enga

    • Apple decided to become a European (Irish) corporation to avoid paying the US taxes on income from EU customers... that comes with agreeing to follow all the EU laws.

    • The law is not reasonable. The only thing EU is exporting is undesirable laws and bureaucracy. Real socialism at its finest.

  • NON-PAYWALLED LINKS, PLEASE (Score:3)

    by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 ) on Friday June 21, 2024 @12:48PM (#64567407)

    Like this one: https://www.msn.com/en-us/mone... [msn.com]

    Gosh, took me a good 10-15 seconds to find that. Does that make me a Slashdot editor?

  • US privacy protecting legislation does it job and prevents Apple's plans to abuse AI to violate user's privacy.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by sinij ( 911942 )
      Scratch that, US does not have privacy legislation other than HIPAA. I meant to say EU.

  • The bottom line is, there isn't a whole lot truly new that Apple, Google, or anyone can add to their phones that's particularly compelling.

    Not to mention that Apple is late to the AI game, and few who've used their products during the past decade will expect them to offer a competitive product. Heck, even they don't seem to believe they'll have a very good product... hence their partnership with ChatGPT. I expect the novelty of the offering will mean lots of engagement for a few weeks, but then it'll drop o

    • "The bottom line is, there isn't a whole lot truly new that Apple, Google, or anyone can add to their phones that's particularly compelling."

      Thank you very much.
      All tech companies have been running on fumes for at least 5, if not 10 years now. Thats why all the freebies are drying up. Broadcom/VMWare for instance. We're seeing a tightening of the screws on all the people who've formed dependency on software. People are scared. There's nowhere to go. Cough up the money, or ... too bad for you.

      We put a new bu
  • Remember when cell phones rolled out in Africa? and South America? It was fast... 1 cell tower can support X users. MUUUCH faster than rolling out copper in the ground, as was done for the wiring of North America.

    So... Like Tiktok (and Facebook, etc) which are admittedly designed to be addictive.... rots your brain, creates dependency, and generally turn people into mindless zombies... What if the same thing happens with AI? MS, Appple, Google, and everyone are climbing over each other to roll out AI and gi

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by gweihir ( 88907 )

      Indeed. All AI can to is be dumb faster and with less effort.

      • <quote><p>Indeed. All AI can to is be dumb faster and with less effort.</p></quote>

        this is just my observation, but I think all the low hanging fruit has been picked, we are spinning our wheels.. the AMAZING new features of all software and hardware these days offers trivial value while locking you in as fast as possible... there's quite a bit of vapourware in all areas of tech these days.. Nuclear Fusion and AI will be here... SOON.. we're told.. just needs a bit more money, for som

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by gweihir ( 88907 )

          The thing is, current LLM/generative AI is _high_ hanging fruits. This is the end-result of about 70 years of research.

  • Good (Score:2)

    by gweihir ( 88907 )

    May slow the dumbing-down in the EU a bit compared to the rest of the world.

  • Apple is trolling the EU (Score:3)

    by allo ( 1728082 ) on Friday June 21, 2024 @04:00PM (#64567933)

    The EU demanded what's overdue and Apple tried malicious compliance. Currently it looks like the EU won't accept that and Apple is mad that they may need to allow actual sideloading without having the last word on if an app is allowed to run on your phone. This is just another "Look, the EU is your enemy, trust us!" action.

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