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Apple's iPhone Loses Top Spot In China To Huawei (cnbc.com) 37

According to a report from Jefferies analysts, Huawei has overtaken Apple's iPhone as the smartphone market share leader in China. CNBC reports: The analysts said smartphone sales in China have showed positive growth year over year, driven primarily by high double-digit growth in Android sales led by Huawei, Xiaomi and Honor devices. But Apple's iPhone has seen a significant, double-digit decline, and its volume growth year over year has been negative since the iPhone 15 launched, according to the analysts.

"We believe weak demand in China would eventually lead to lower-than-expected global shipments of iPhone 15 in 2023," the analysts wrote, adding that the trend suggests the iPhone will "lose" to Huawei next year. The Jefferies analysts wrote that Android's volume growth can't be chalked up to discounts and that discounts on iPhones, excluding the iPhone 15 models, have been stable, while the average discount for Android "is not high." The analysts noted that resale iPhone 15 devices are all "trading at discounts to official selling prices," which also reflects the weak demand in China.

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Apple's iPhone Loses Top Spot In China To Huawei

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  • Banned (Score:2, Interesting)

    by ArkiMage ( 578981 )

    Makes one wonder why they were banned in the US doesn't it... Would be an interesting headline if true "Threatened by the rise of Huawei, Apple calls on their friends in the US Gov".

    • Apple isn't really powerful enough to blatantly lobby for special protection. And the cost of getting caught is far too great. Besides, tech companies, especially in silicon valley are terrible at keeping secrets.

      I have a much simpler answer. Accusations of Huawei being used as a entry point for Beijing-led spying efforts were used as a basis for the Trump administration's jingoistic distractions. Threats of unrealistic tariffs without any real plan drove him to sling accusations in order to save face. The

      • I have an even simpler explanation. China actively spies on allies and aggressively state-sponsors hackers who break into foreign government systems. There's a reason everyone on the planet except Russia is moving away from Chinese relations.

      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        Apple is the world's biggest corporation by market cap. The jewel in the US tech crown.

        That said, the Huawei ban was more about protecting Cisco and other US infrastructure companies who got screwed when Huawei invented some of the key 5G technologies and brought them to market years before anyone else, and at more competitive prices.

        Interestingly just today we learned of a new, actively exploited zero-day in Cisco gear: https://blog.talosintelligence... [talosintelligence.com]

        If your security sucks and you can't fix it, spreading

  • This is b/c you can't pirate on an iPhone. Or at least it's very hard and requires a bunch of cumbersome steps.

  • Last time when Huawei was poised to take world market share from Apple, the US government banned them and started a trade war with China, now they are out of bans to impose.

    On the other hand, I owned a Huawei phone (P20) and I can see why they deserved their marked share, but now without Google apps and services, value simply isn't there. I can expect them having top marked share in China, but not worldwide.

    • by Malc ( 1751 )

      No Google apps and services sounds like a bonus point. Although in this case theyâ(TM)ve probably been replaced by alternatives that have been backdoored for the Chines authorities.

    • No GMS is a selling point, for some.
      But, yeah, not for those locked in already.

      In China, they're locked into wechat, but that works "everywhere", so they can still choose Apple or Android.

      Of course, Huawei are gradually moving their HarmonyOS away from Android. I wonder if they'll ever remove the compatibility altogether.

      • Before Huawei got banned, they not just shipped locked bootloaders, but pushed updates to lock already opened bootloaders. I'm still curious if Huawei phones are still locked down tight, or if one can throw an OS like LineageOS onto them somehow.

  • I suspect there will still be some sort of artificial scarcity, though.
    • iPhone relatively more expensive for hardware features. Android can get similar specs cheaper, such as Huawei. In China , Apple apps and ecosystems less advantageous . WeChat is a big usage app. So why pay for Apple premium in China and appear to be unsupportive of a decent local product. China monitors everything anyway so no real privacy advantage. Outside of China dynamics much different.
  • Never would have happened if they didn't adopt USB-C.

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