Apple's Return-to-Office Policy Leaves Many Workers Unhappy, AI Expert Quits (9to5mac.com) 230
Apple's director of machine learning, Ian Goodfellow, "is leaving the company due to its return to work policy," reports a tech reporter for the Verge. "In a note to staff, he said 'I believe strongly that more flexibility would have been the best policy for my team.'"
9to5Mac notes that Apple "poached Goodfellow from Google back in 2019 to join its 'Special Projects Group' as the director of machine learning." Apple employees started returning to in-person work on April 11 following a two-year stint of remote work brought on by the COVID-19 pandemic... At first, the company required employees to work in person at least one day per week. On May 4, the company ramped that up to two days per week in the office.
Starting on May 23, employees will need to be in the office three days per week. This is the start of Apple's so-called "hybrid" work plan, which will require employees to work from the office on Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday every week....
Goodfellow's former employer Google mandated that some teams return to in-person work starting last month, but many employees are able to permanently work from home.
Discontent with that policy is widespread, reports Fortune: Seventy-six percent of Apple workers surveyed said they were dissatisfied with Apple's return-to-office policy that was implemented after the COVID pandemic started waning. The survey, conducted by anonymous social network Blind, collected answers from 652 Apple employees from April 13 to April 19....
Accustomed to no commute, they're now balking at having to return to the office and say they will seek jobs at other tech companies that offer more flexible work arrangements. A sizable number of workers — 56% — claimed they are looking to leave Apple expressly because of its office requirement. It's unclear how many actually will carry through.... Blind's users are "overwhelmingly corporate workers in engineering or product roles," according to Rick Chen, director of public relations at Blind.
More action might be expected after May 23 when the pilot plan for hybrid work comes into full effect. Another worker stated: "Apple is going to see attrition like no other come June. 60% of my team doesn't even live near the office. They are not returning. "
9to5Mac notes that Apple "poached Goodfellow from Google back in 2019 to join its 'Special Projects Group' as the director of machine learning." Apple employees started returning to in-person work on April 11 following a two-year stint of remote work brought on by the COVID-19 pandemic... At first, the company required employees to work in person at least one day per week. On May 4, the company ramped that up to two days per week in the office.
Starting on May 23, employees will need to be in the office three days per week. This is the start of Apple's so-called "hybrid" work plan, which will require employees to work from the office on Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday every week....
Goodfellow's former employer Google mandated that some teams return to in-person work starting last month, but many employees are able to permanently work from home.
Discontent with that policy is widespread, reports Fortune: Seventy-six percent of Apple workers surveyed said they were dissatisfied with Apple's return-to-office policy that was implemented after the COVID pandemic started waning. The survey, conducted by anonymous social network Blind, collected answers from 652 Apple employees from April 13 to April 19....
Accustomed to no commute, they're now balking at having to return to the office and say they will seek jobs at other tech companies that offer more flexible work arrangements. A sizable number of workers — 56% — claimed they are looking to leave Apple expressly because of its office requirement. It's unclear how many actually will carry through.... Blind's users are "overwhelmingly corporate workers in engineering or product roles," according to Rick Chen, director of public relations at Blind.
More action might be expected after May 23 when the pilot plan for hybrid work comes into full effect. Another worker stated: "Apple is going to see attrition like no other come June. 60% of my team doesn't even live near the office. They are not returning. "
At least give a reason (Score:5, Interesting)
We may even come to an understanding if you can actually provide some sensible explanation why you insist in having us fart into your chairs instead of ours.
"Because I say so" already didn't work for my dad. It sure as fuck won't work for my boss.
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Re:At least give a reason (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't know what your coworkers are like, with mine that "sponaneous conversations" are more likely to be about pointless drivel or having to listen to one side of a loud conversation on the phone. Neither of which leads to improvement or innovation.
Re: At least give a reason (Score:4, Insightful)
They don't. Actually, we have a pretty good cooperation. Thinking about it, it actually improved considerably the past 2 years because we don't get annoyed by each other but instead only get to talk to each other when we have something to discuss.
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I'd guess so. I sure wouldn't want to interact with them either if I don't have to.
Why would anyone want to interact with anyone else if they don't have to or are friends?
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Remote is less rigid and limited for communication (Score:5, Insightful)
Because communication over electronic means tends to be more rigidly planned and limited
I've worked full time at home now and have never found that to be the case.
The range of options you have for reaching someone has been great. I can just leave a note saying I'd like an answer to something eventually and they can answer whenever. Or I can drop a mention in a more important channel saying I am blocked and they can see it.
For thorny issues our company has had no problem creating impromptu Zoom sessions, and frankly I will take a shared screen actually working directly with a problem any day of the week over a meeting in a room with a whiteboard.
Indeed I would go so far as to say, that physically rounding up people for a meeting or a response is WAY harder and more rigid a process than working with a team over Slack.
I like Apple but they are 100% in the wrong here, and they had better reverse course before all the best people leave - because they easily could, and I can totally understand how anyone who got used to working at home full time and being effective doing so, would feel like they were being betrayed being forced back into the office.
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Notes are easy to ignore or do the minimum to answer and less natural than impromptu conversations.
Longer term it's easier to ignore or blow off something said in conversation only. I find it really useful to be able to go back and see what was said in short conversations like that (though still you miss out on history of whatever was said in a Zoom call).
But seriously, imitating a Zoom call with teammates now is WAY less work than going to have a short conversation in an office was. I don't have to prepa
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Aside of being an argument for, not against, I don't know why it would be easier to ignore notes than a person.
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Indeed I would go so far as to say, that physically rounding up people for a meeting or a response is WAY harder and more rigid a process than working with a team over Slack.
I think you misspelled "finding an open meeting room". :-)
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Yes, that too.
I've seen meeting rooms being booked solidly 24/7 by certain teams or "very self-important people" and being notoriously empty while at the same time you couldn't find any at any time slot. That problem was quite effectively solved with virtual meeting rooms.
Of course, certain teams and people are now miffed because they are no longer superspecialawesome and important.
Re:Remote is less rigid and limited for communicat (Score:5, Insightful)
All my experience suggests the exact opposite -- it's much easier to send a suggestion over a text channel than in person, with less downside risk (sending a "no" message back leaves much less of a lasting negative impression than the feeling that someone is wasting your time in person).
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I agree people may differ on this, but that's why Apple should be flexible - let teams with people who are better remote work more often from home if they want, and people who want to come into the office more often are welcome to.
Forcing everyone into the office often is ignoring the very real productivity gains that many people could have, and like I said also have Apple lose good people.
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It seems to be more a problem with you than the process itself.
Re:At least give a reason (Score:4, Funny)
I thought that was a feature, not a bug. Particularly the last bit.
Now, when I worked in an office and got bored I'd walk down to my colleague's office, he'd shut the door, and we'd have a glass of bourbon and do some of that spontaneous innovating. It turns out it works just as well over zoom.
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Yeah, I think we all got that from your original post.
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You prefer wasting company time with inefficient communication?
Re:At least give a reason (Score:5, Funny)
spontaneous conversations that often lead to improvement and innovation
Spill of management-speak refrigerator magnets on Aisle Five!
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The reason is this big fancy office building costs a lot of money so you better start using it.
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Sell that office building, I have no use for it.
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"Turn it into a homeless shelter."
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I don't care what you do with it, it isn't mine and neither is it my decision what to do with it. But if your company has assets it has no use for, it's sensible to sell those.
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"Because we spent a ridiculous $1 billion building a showpiece headquarters with every current fucking trendy nonsense, and we will look right asses if it's empty and nobody goes there."
How's that?
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I'd pay to see a CEO admit that.
But since they won't, I guess I won't get to hear a sensible answer and hence continue to ask them this very uncomfortable question. I consider it a job perk.
Re:At least give a reason (Score:5, Insightful)
Nope. Both lead to me ignoring them. What is asserted without evidence is also dismissed without evidence.
Re:At least give a reason (Score:5, Insightful)
I work from home full time, with a sizable salary, and you don't get to choose what a "real" job is.
If I decide to work in my pajamas but am getting the job done in the time allotted to me remotely, then it's still a real job.
And if you say STFU and go back to working in an office, I can tell you just as easily to STFU while I quit my current job, and find an even more lucrative remote job.
I guess you didn't get the memo. Employees are in the driver's seat now, even if that means "driving" from my kitchen to my workstation a few feet away every morning, coffee mug in hand.
Re:At least give a reason (Score:5, Funny)
Dude, you need to optimise your home office setup: coffee maker on your work desk.
Re:At least give a reason (Score:5, Funny)
Dude, you need to optimise your home office setup: coffee maker on your work desk.
Preferably one that runs Linux.
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If you can work from home full time then you don't have a real job.
You being bad at logic doesn't mean someone doing something differently doesn't have a "real job," but what do I expect from someone who uses "back to work," when people working from home have been working?
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If you post as Anonymous Coward then you're not a real person.
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> If a parent or employer told you to
inject yourself with an experimental drug, would you do it?
I think we all know the answers to these questions now.
Re:At least give a reason (Score:5, Insightful)
Then fire some. You should never hope that people leave your company.
Because you always, invariably, lose the best. They are the ones that will easily find something else and jump ship as soon as there is something offered to them, and good people will easily find something. So what you lose are the best and brightest. What stays is the dregs, the idiots that know they can't find anything else and who will cling to their job, no matter how shitty it gets, because that's all they can get.
Re: At least give a reason (Score:5, Interesting)
Odd. That's by no means what I can see in our company, it actually seems to be the opposite because the people who can't get fuck all accomplished need to be visible in the office so their superiors don't notice that they don't do fuck all.
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OK, I'll bite.
Let's assume "most people want to get back to offices, in-person" is true. Nobody's stopping them.
Why punish the rest?
Re: At least give a reason (Score:5, Insightful)
You didn't say anything, that was the rsvilergun account. Keep your multi-accounts sorted out, it looks silly if you agree with yourself when people know that you're doing it.
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It's highly unlikely that the best people are the ones who prefer an environment (the traditional office) where looking busy and management by walking around will enable you to get by rather than an environment (remote working) where extraneous elements are filtered out leaving only performance.
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Go for it. Try to convince a CEO who is personally liable with his private money for security blunders to outsource security to India.
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The fact is that lots of companies already tried Third World outsourcing, and found that it the downsides (time zone issues, communication issues, etc) ate the savings and more.
Re: Stupid shit WFHers say. (Score:3)
The outsourcing thing has been tried, many times. And has failed miserably, many times. The issues are extensive. Timezone barriers. Linguistic barriers. Cultural incompatibilities. Legal issues. Lack of political clout costing a seat at the bargaining table when new laws and taxes are debated. And on and on.
Shit we're literally watching companies that outsourced their code shops to russia/belarus/ukraine scramble to survive during a disastrous geopolitical crisis. Make no mistake, that could happen in Indi
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Not my problem that their leadership made crappy decisions.
If your C-Levels are shit, fire them and hire more qualified personnel.
When the AI quits you know you fucked up. (Score:5, Funny)
filler.
Dumb selection of days (Score:5, Insightful)
Monday, Tuesday and Thursday is a very dumb selection of days. Firstly, Monday is statistically the busiest commute day. Secondly, leaving Wednesday out means that employees with longer commutes are losing out, having to be around for longer and possibly having to pay for a wasted day at a hotel, and missing out on a day of family life. This kind of a schedule looks like it was designed to force people to move back in into the area and eventually restore a full working week in the office, which would be very much in the spirit of how Google implements change - step by step, little incremental changes designed to give Google exactly what it wants.
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Apologies. I'm guilty of TLDR on the go and thinking this article was about about Google, haha! I'm guilty all the way. :) Nevertheless, the point about the schule is entirely valid.
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All the big tech companies seem to be adopting suspiciously similar policies.
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At least in NYC, transit ridership and toll bridge usage tend to be highest on Tu-Th. Monday seems like a lower commute day than mid-week, probably because some people take a "long weekend" if they can.
Also, most of them took the job with the expectation that it was an in-person job in California. It's not Apple's problem that they moved permanently due to a temporary situation like COVID. There was always the expectation of going back to work in-person, at least part-time.
Besides, why wouldn't people wa
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Hey, Apple! (Score:2)
Maybe that's one more reason to launch your AR glasses ASAP, eh? Going to work IRL won't matter if your AR glasses make working in a team as seamless as in real life, isn't that your end goal?
Also, making people work in an office means commutes, which means unnecessary pollution.
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Fuck the metaverse, yes. Especially since it's Facebook.
Also, AR is not VR. With VR, you are shown a fake world which moves independently of what your inner ears are telling you is happening, which causes motion sickness in some people. However, with AR it's a virtual layer on top of what your eyes see. Think seeing something on your desk that's not really there, but your desk is very much real since the transparent glasses are not showing anything apart from the virtual object that's supposed to be on it.
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Management donâ(TM)t like it (Score:2)
The real reason companies are doing this (Score:5, Interesting)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
According to the video, people use different strategies to get away with having multiple jobs. Some of them are detrimental to the employer. For example, people will routinely decline participating in meetings so they can use that time to work on the other job .People doing this also recommend to be mediocre at your job and never exceed expectations so you can handle the double workload without stressing out. There's a website dedicated to sharikng these tips: https://overemployed.com/set-l... [overemployed.com]
It's obvious companies are realizing WFH means they are paying top dollar to get sub-par results and they rather have you in their offices where it's easier for them to make sure you're not doing side stuff on company's time.
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I think most workers are honest, but the minority who will rob their company create problems for everyone.
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If the employer can’t tell, does it matter?
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Re:The real reason companies are doing this (Score:5, Insightful)
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If the employer can’t tell, does it matter?
Do you want your manager to trust you and not subject you to constant micromanagement?
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Good. Milk them dry until you get caught. Your employer isn’t your friend.
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If people are doing that, then the only reason they are getting away with it is because their managers have no idea how to be a manager.
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Since work from home, unnecessary meetings are a thing of the past! I am now blocked because I'm in a meeting, so nobody interrupts me with a call or a chat message, because I'm in a meeting! I can turn the volume down (or just take off the headphones), get some meaningful work done, with top concentration due to a lack of interrupts or distractions, while at the same time some narcissist gets to stroke his ego because he thinks there's 200 people listening to his drivel.
It's just so win-win...
Ha Ha (Score:4, Informative)
"The survey, conducted by anonymous social network Blind, collected answers from 652 Apple employees from April 13 to April 19...."
Apple has ~154,000 employees....they ran the survey for 6 days, and got only 652 comments?
Hmmm.
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No one trusts "anonymous" surveys actually being anonymous. Even if they truly are anonymous, supervisors make assumptions about comments and attribute them to people, true or not, and then dismiss them as being from "negative" people. Management just listens to the "Yes" folks echoing what they want to hear. BTDTGTTS
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This Is The Dumbest Goddamn Thing You Can Say About Statistics [madmath.com]
Fitting comment (Score:2)
I started a new job during the pandemic and never actually went to the office. So, had to go find the desk they assigned me kind of short-notice one day to make sure I knew where it was. Overheard someone saying to a coworker, "Did you know walking to meetings takes time? When did that start?" Though I have had at least one highly amusing experience since working in the office again even part-time. One day, maybe 10% (if that) of the people on my particular floor were in, and there were literally dozens of
The Black Death (Score:2)
Today, the COVID pandemic has weakened control of workers by the managerial class. In the Middle Ages, the plague weakened control [bbc.com] of labor by the nobility.
While the Black Death resulted in short term economic damage, the longer-term consequences were less obvious. Before the plague erupted, several centuries of population growth had produced a labour surplus, which was abruptly replaced with a labour shortage when many serfs and free peasants died. Historians have argued that this labour shortage allowed those peasants that survived the pandemic to demand better pay or to seek employment elsewhere. Despite government resistance, serfdom and the feudal system itself were ultimately eroded.
A parasitic ruling class [slashdot.org] sufficiently powerful to perpetuate its own status and benefits can fail to re-establish the exploitive social structure on which it depends after a disruption by an external influence.
By the way, along with COVID Elon Musk is also on team anti-managerialism [conservativebrief.com]:
“I strongly believe that all managers in a technical area must be technically excellent. Managers in software must write great software or it’s like being a cavalry captain who can’t ride a horse!”
Sokay, No One But Maketing People Need "AI" (Score:2)
Will workers actually quit? (Score:2)
"Apple is going to see attrition like no other come June. 60% of my team doesn't even live near the office. They are not returning. "
It's not like most Apple workers pre-pandemic lived near the office or had easy commutes. There is no difference between the current situation and a few years ago except that there is more frustration after enjoying the perk of being allowed to work from home. The big question is whether workers will actually quit or just think about it or just gripe. After all, in the midst of the pre-pandemic bad commute times, workers at Apple decided that the economic cost of quitting Apple wasn't worth it, that repl
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I think some people will question if that pay is worth losing practically their entire work day to not just working, but the commute to and front the office. Who wants to get up, drive, work, drive, sleep, with little time for anything else until the weekend?
Even if they still have to drive into the office, but that drive can be 15 minutes vs. 2-3 hours, suddenly they've half a day of time they gain back.
Maybe management doesn't understand (Score:2)
That people don't like to commute, for many this means hours taken out of the week. For a tech job, commuting is unnecessary
The cat's out of the bag... (Score:4, Interesting)
Just as I predicted, Work from Home is here to stay. Once people got a taste of ditching the commute and ditching the work clothes and ditching the stupid water cooler conversations the die was cast. Tim Cook might be a very good CEO in every other respect but on this one he really dropped the ball. I get that he has that multi-billion dollar campus to fill up but he completely failed to read the tea leaves.
Where I work they did all sorts of surveys about return to work and I'm sure they did the same thing at Apple. And if Apple is anything like my place, the overwhelming majority did not want to return to the office full time. A lot of them probably didn't want to go back at all.
Do you know who really gets screwed with return to work? Single Moms with kids that now have to scramble to find daycare. Lower income people that have to deal with much higher gas prices to get to the office. Middle managers? Not so much as it gives them a reason to remain employed as they can now hover over minions in person rather than remotely. Executives? Well, somebody has to sit in the corner office.
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" And the floor below them with the VP's was mostly empty offices too. They were traveling mostly." - Yeah that's just it. People in those positions travel a ton. Where I work the corner offices are mostly empty. Before the pandemic I might see those people once a month or so. So for all intents and purposes they have always been remote. But when they do come in that once a month they like to see all the peons squeezed into cubicles, or worse, open desk arrangements. Strokes their collective egos and remind
Re:Boiling the frog... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Literally causing people to starve. (Score:4, Interesting)
Let me extend your thoughts outward which oddly is a continuation of a discussion I had with my daughter earlier today.
I've been an advocate of centralizing perishable item production and distribution for some time. I'm an avid supporter of legally mandating a tremendous decrease in perishable foods on grocery store shelves or at least mandating a high premium for them.
Consider that most perishable items you find on the store shelves are generally stored in a frozen state at least during transport. They are only defrosted for the purpose of making them more attractive to consumers. After all, thawed meat is far prettier than frozen. Even at a classical butcher shop, the meat is very commonly stored in a frozen state on hooks and defrosted as needed.
Bakeries generally have very low waste. Most bakeries that survive for any period of time tend to become quite skilled at planning. They produce what they believe they need to make their products look great on the shelves. And they offer incredible discounts to move end of day or day old items. And in many cases, they'll give the product they can't sell to homeless, stray dogs, etc... I've known bakeries that throw away almost none of their product and the only food waste they have occurs most commonly from scraps and from when for some reason they have a bad batch of ingredients delivered to them.
If we were to make a company like Amazon.com (I know, I don't like them much either, but their well suited for this example) build an infrastructure that delivered "fresh product" to consumers rapidly, this would mean they could optimize the food chain and reduce waste on a massive scale. We could food shortages greatly reduced.
Consider that Amazon doesn't need to defrost anything to make it look presentable. They simply place the best looking photos ever on their website.
Amazon has a logistics system in place that could optimize the distribution of goods based on multiple factors. They can track what is selling where and for how much more effectively than most any other vendor in the world. They can establish supply chains to provide to many different industries as well. If you're a crouton maker, they can provide stale bread. If you're a dog food maker, they can provide everything from meat scraps to the shavings that are produced by using band saws on frozen meat....
Additionally, they can optimize the control of when or even if food is defrosted or produced based on supply and demand. They can shift prices through the entire market in real time to adjust prices on groceries based on what is in supply and where. If people have been buying a lot of t-bone but not enough sirloin, they can adjust the prices to make the sirloin more attractive.
As for milk, I've never fully understood the chemistry of milk, I don't know how milk is stored over time, how it's transported, packaged, kept fresh, etc... I'd imagine that there's methods of optimizing milk logistics to keep it fresh for as long as possible. But what I do know is that delivering large amounts of milk to all the little grocery stores everywhere is very unlikely the best means of doing this.
There's a lot more to this as well. There are places where different products or parts of products sell best. Food is regional. If you butcher a cow in one location, the market may not exist to consume the maximum percentage of the animal. A lot could go to waste. For example, I have seen that in many places, eating liver is extremely common while in others, it's very rare. Amazon would know the market demand for liver in real time across many countries.
I can go on, but the gist of this rant is that unidimensional thinking
Re:Literally causing people to starve. (Score:5, Informative)
With gas in short supply, Biden increased the Ethanol content of gas. If you're burning gas, you're literally making somebody in the world starve because growing Ethanol means not growing as much food (there is only so much available farmland).
No, not really. E15 has always been legal to sell during the winter. And it's also legal to sell E85, which has much higher ethanol content than E15. So Biden didn't increase the amount of ethanol that can be put in fuel. Rather, he changed the rules about when you can sell high-ethanol fuel.
Biden changed the rules to allow the ethanol content to remain high (15%) during the summer, whereas normally it would have been reduced during the summer months to a maximum of 10%, because otherwise the increased evaporation rate on hot days could potentially increase ground-level ozone, which is bad for human health.
Also, most starvation is not caused by lack of food, but rather by wars and unequal distribution. We have more than enough food in the world to feed everyone. In fact, the world produces half again more food than is needed. So no, ethanol is not causing someone to go hungry. It's a huge boondoggle that puts your tax dollars into the pockets of Monsanto and giant agribusinesses, so it would be great if we stopped pretending that it was somehow a solution to energy independence or climate change or any of the myriad other things that it doesn't actually help with, but that's a separate issue.
Just because COVID-19 has largely ended does not mean that we should have everyone commuting. Unless Apple is handing out electric vehicles to its employees, there is no excuse for this return-to-office mandate. We need everybody who can work from home to continue doing so.
This, I agree with... almost. Even if Apple *were* handing out electric vehicles to all of its employees, there would *still* be no excuse for making traffic unnecessarily worse when clearly most of the company could be just as effective (if not more effective) working remotely. There's no excuse for treating workers like children who have to be watched over like they won't do their work unless they're under the watchful eye of some middle manager popping in on them for no reason.
Give workers the choice. Give workers flexibility. If you have workers who are only in the office a couple of days per week, find them an officemate who works on opposite days, and have them share the space. But don't make people go in just because you are afraid that your managers can't figure out how to manage remote employees. That's just bad management all around.
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It's not quite that simple on the food thing. Russian and Ukrainian farm goods are going to be limited and more expensive.
I have no opinion on the base question- just saying you may want to update your facts for the situation since things have changed in the last 60 days.
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The last 60 days make dgatwood still correct. The loss of Russian and Ukrainian wheat exports is causing a market price spike, but their food exports are a minor contribution to the world food supply which is still in large surplus.
Corn (maize) is not wheat, and does nothing to offset wheat supply shortages. And corn is plentiful in the U.S. and nations are free to buy corn instead of wheat if they want to (they don't).
Other wheat exporters are ramping production plans right now, though the production will
Re:Literally causing people to starve. (Score:4, Funny)
Maybe some aide put his number down under "Tim Cook" in Trump's rolodex, so when he looked for "Tim Apple" there was no card.
Re:Literally causing people to starve. (Score:5, Interesting)
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During the first lockdown, my boss observed that he had been wasting a great deal of time "commuting between two computers". The official approach to work hours for design staff is that you are paid to get results, not for putting in hours. What is the point of being a clever clogs, if you can't reduce the time needed to get your work done? I met a chap, of incandescent brilliance, who worked just two days a week in some kind of finance capacity, and earned enough money to live well. The rest of the time wa
Re:Literally causing people to starve. (Score:4, Funny)
Monorail! Monorail! Monorail! /Simpsons
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It's also worse than that. Ethanol has less energy so you have to burn more gallons of fuel to travel the same miles (lower gas mileage). The government estimates it's only 3% to 6% depending on the make and model but the two times I used 100% gasoline in my 2012 car, I got 10% higher mileage (302 and 305 vs 268 normally).
Yup- since 10% was ethanol, that means in that car engine it produced almost no extra energy.
I think they have found a way around ethanol destroying the engine. At least most of it- that
I don't think it matters (Score:2)
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Re: Boiling the frog... (Score:2)
Maybe you should started reading line by line the first quoted paragraph before jumping ahead to the next one?
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Today, Apple announced a significant employee reduction. Earnings will be higher, and the stock soared.
Again.
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This is your speculation. Indeed it might finish ahead now. Apple is sufficiently opaque that *nobody knows*. The data isn't in yet.
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What exactly does Apple need AI for
Siri.
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but once you factor in the loss of unvested RSUs, it can become downright expensive.
That's okay. The folks leaving will probably just pick up unvested GSUs to replace them.
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People are rarely fungible, no matter what managers think. You can't just replace one person by another one. We're not hiring for a CEO where one patient with "visions" can easily replaced by another one with the same affliction.
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Lol. McDonald's fired like 2 to 3 CEOs in the past 12 years. They are still doing fine and more fries and burgers are being sold than ever before. EVERYONE is replaceable and dispensable. That is EVERYONE as I doubt you provided nearly the same value to your employer as the McDonald's CEOS had.
Always something I remind mindself when I am tempted to slask off. If I died of a heart attack today my employer would still sell product just fine tomorrow
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Sort of like: If you want to side load apps on your phone, side load apps on your phone, if you don't want to, don't. Oh wait. At least they pay you to come into work.