Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook (macrumors.com) 220
Despite only being released in November, sales of the M1-powered MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, and Mac mini now represent the majority of Mac sales, outperforming Mac computers powered by Intel processors, according to Apple CEO Tim Cook. MacRumors reports: Cook made the remarks during Apple's "Spring Loaded" event yesterday, where it introduced a completely redesigned 24-inch iMac powered by the M1 Apple silicon chip. Cook says that the M1 and Apple silicon "isn't just an upgrade, but a breakthrough," while touting Mac's industry-leading customer satisfaction. According to Cook, the four M1-powered Macs now outperform the five remaining Intel-powered computers in its lineup in terms of sales. During the keynote, Cook's comment went largely unnoticed but is likely to be a key point the CEO makes during Apple's upcoming earnings call, which is being held on April 28.
And? (Score:5, Insightful)
no one wants to be left with an abandoned machine, i.e. during the PPC to Intel transition.
Re: And? (Score:2, Interesting)
People are still buying the 21.5 inch iMac which has a 10 year old CPU and low resolution display for $1099. Apple will keep selling that for at least the next decade because its pure profit: https://www.apple.com/shop/buy... [apple.com]
Re: And? (Score:4)
Apple's main website no longer links to that old 21.5 inch iMac sales page. They discontinued 2 of the 4 prior storage options weeks ago. Leading up to the event this week, rumor sites were reporting many Apple retail stores had completely run out of stock on 21.5 inch iMacs.
Pretty sure Apple will not "keep selling that for at least the next decade".
As for what could be considered "pure profit", Apple's M1 chip is said to be about 120 square mm, which is about half size of Intel's latest chips. That half-cost chip comes with an integrated GPU that rivals the lower range of discrete graphics cards. The whole thing runs on only 15 watts, so they also save on power supply, voltage conversion and cooling parts. The whole computer fits onto a tiny circuit board, also lowering cost when manufactured at high volume.
Even at Apple's premium prices these new iMacs are going to deliver a great value, and at a much lower cost to Apple.
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>Very overpriced.
Like any luxury fashion statement, the entire point is to show the world that you can afford to pay extra.
Re: And? (Score:2)
A good example of that is the HermÃs Airtag accessory it costs 10x more and does nothing better than the $35 one. It doesnâ(TM)t even look very different.
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Yes mr. Peacock, you tail is indeed there to help you fly better rather than impress the ladies!
Re: And? (Score:3)
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it's not garbage. That's a value judgement YOU have placed on it. Others have different criteria (e.g. my wife for example is very happy with a quite low powered Apple machine, she plays no games, doesn't write software or do anything else particularly power hungry, and yet values the quality offered by Apple's machines (enclosures, screens etc).
Further more, if you have a problem with an apple machine, the after sales service is just spectacularly good compared to any other electronics supplier in my expe
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If you self-built, and you are getting "regular crashes from crap quality enclosures" then you need to spend more than $30 on a case and actually install some fans that move air through it. The problem isn't with the enclosure, the problem is with the incompetent person who didn't buy components of the proper spec to keep things in operating temperatures.
As far as other OEMs go, I think you'll find that Dell's Precision and XPS laptops are every bit as high quality in their engineering as Apple's MacBooks,
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Most legacy software will run on the M1 using the Rosetta translator/emulator.
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Most legacy software will run on the M1 using the Rosetta translator/emulator.
Only if by "most legacy software" you mean "only 64-bit software that is compatible with the most recent two versions of macOS (10.15 and 10.16)."
I've got several applications that won't run on anything above Mojave (10.14).
Re:And? (Score:4)
I've got several applications that won't run on anything above Mojave (10.14).
In that case they won't run on any Mac that Apple is selling today. So no reason to complain about ARM Macs.
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Of course, the last PPC shipped ~15 years ago. I find it hard to believe that there isn't better software out there now than whatever you were running 15 years ago.
If not, you can set up the older machines somewhere else and use remote desktop to access them from the single machine on your d
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Except for people who need to run legacy software?
When I read the word "legacy" in this context, it tends to invoke a "good luck with that" disclaimer when it comes to support.
Either you're able to resolve your issue in virtualization (which a lot of people successfully do), or get someone to fix the root problem (rewrite the software). Software is constantly facing an adapt-or-die crisis. This isn't anything new.
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no one wants to be left with an abandoned machine, i.e. during the PPC to Intel transition.
Speak for yourself. I just bought a Mac Pro. It's going to be a long time before they scale M1 up to 16 cores.
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no one wants to be left with an abandoned machine, i.e. during the PPC to Intel transition.
Rosetta worked well then and it should work well now
Speak for yourself. I just bought a Mac Pro. It's going to be a long time before they scale M1 up to 16 cores.
Since it already has 8 cores (4× high-performance + 4× high-efficiency) I'd guess not long or put 2 or more in there. However when they announced the M1 first thought I had was how long before the Mac Pro gets upgraded what I would like to se in the new configurable macpro is coprocessor cards, add in more M1 type or other processors for different tasks
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I got myself an fully optioned up intel based 15" macbook pro.
M1s might play your games a bit faster, until the next generation of cpus comes out, but if you want the suite of security features in the Intel instruction set and the extensive IO options, the M1 isn't going to cut it.
Re:And? (Score:5, Funny)
I got myself an fully optioned up intel based 15" macbook pro.
M1s might play your games a bit faster, until the next generation of cpus comes out, but if you want the suite of security features in the Intel instruction set and the extensive IO options, the M1 isn't going to cut it.
So, killer security features, eh?
I would pressure you to share more detail as to how you came about this conclusion, but I wouldn't want to trigger a Meltdown or anything. You might be up for a week having nightmares about battling Spectres in Zombieland.
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Intel
Security
Choose one.
There's a reason why Intel in constantly churning out updates to ME, Microcode and related BIOS issues. Everyone who uses client hardware that isn't enterprise-grade line models from Dell, HP, Lenovo etc has been SOL for 3 years now concerning their CPU security against side-channel attacks from things as lowly as their browsers.
Latest intel CPUs lose in every single department against AMD's, overall performance, single core, all-core, performance-per-watt, performance-per-dollar, ne
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Well, it already has 8 cores...
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Speak for yourself. I just bought a Mac Pro. It's going to be a long time before they scale M1 up to 16 cores.
But not as long until they scale M1 to run faster than 16 Intel cores.
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Linux (Score:5, Interesting)
So, are we ever going to get M1 {...} based high-performance laptops running Linux ?
We're slowly [phoronix.com] getting [rosenzweig.io] there [asahilinux.org].
other ARM based high-performance laptops running Linux ?
The Pinebook Pro from Pine64 has proven that it's possible to make decent ARM-based laptops that are from the ground up designed for opensource and linux.
So the "other ARM based" part is covered. (Disclaimer: this is typed on one).
Now what's needed is the "high-performance" part. Hopefully, other chipset manufecturer will soon try to "one-up" Apple, and among the upcoming 5nm high performance ARM cpus, some will be more friendly and will end up in a similar device.
Afterall, Pine64 has already started to look into th 8nm rk3566 rk3588 to upgrade their hardware (starting from SBC anytime soon, then smartphone probably within 1 year and perhaps laptops by 2 year mark), so probably other companies might follow, especially once higher performance 5nm chips start pouring down the pipe.
Prices falling offereing increasing. (Score:2)
Sadly, the pine book Pro you mention is a long way from the sort of performance folks on slashdot are errr pining for !
Yup, as I said it only covers the "Other ARM" part.
Not the "High-performance part".
(Though depending on one's field of work, it's good enough to SSH into the HPC where the actual big work happens, so, it's fine by me.
Much as I would love to see a high quality vendor selling ARM/Linux machines to compete with Apple, I suspect the mechanics of volume/investment/chip design/performance doesn't really make it viable for anyone except Apple.
There's definitely a rising demand for ultra-high performance ARM chips (As I've pointed out elsewhere: just look at the Lenovo smartphone with the ridiculous cooling solution -- these Snapdragon 888 5G are in the same ballpark as the M1)
With rising demand, rising offer will follow and eventual
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That's exactly why I don't buy Macs: their pathetically short commitment to backwards compatibility.
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So Apple buyers think that way? I mean they are buying machines with soldered in, non-upgradable RAM, SSD, Wifi/Bluetooth and CPU.
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Haven't been able to upgrade my RAM in years on an iMac. My last fully upgradable Apple computer was the G4 tower and that was before 2000.
Why do you continue to buy them then? Every PC that I've built for the last 20 years has had a very decent upgrade path. Even my sons 6 year old i7-6700k has plenty of room for upgrading memory, storage, and even a slightly faster processor. Buying a fixed system with no path for upgrades just seems counter productive to me.
Good for Apple Shareholders (Score:4, Interesting)
Nice for Apple, I believe the machine is rather good. But seems they are locking in their customers even more than the did it the past and ending the 2nd hand market. Once Apple stops supporting updates on this machine, off it goes to the land fill.
Yes, I know people are attempting to port Linux to it, and I hope it succeeds fully. But knowing Apple, it will probably like Nvidia/ nouveau thing we have.
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I thought I read some where that Linux will never be ported to the M1 process. Apple has locked down the hardware so well, its not worth the time to undo it. Of course we have heard that before. The penguin finds away!
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Well that didn't take long.
i'm waiting (Score:2)
I'm waiting until Apple fixes its serious swapping problem [itnerd.blog] that wears out the SSD way too fast before I replace my 6 year old Intel iMac. The old iMac continues to work just fine with an SSD I had put in when the hard drive failed.
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I am waiting for free VirtualBox to work in M1 Macs. No Bootcamp too. I doubt Apple will bring it back.
Alternate kernels (Score:2)
No Bootcamp too. I doubt Apple will bring it back.
Apple started supporting 3rd party kernels, and Asahi Linux project is there to bring it to the hardware.
(With the usual Rosenzweig doing the GPU reverse engineering).
So booting into Linux is definitely going to happen.
Now booting Windows is an entirely different matter, I don't really expect it to happen, not as much for technical reason(*) as mostly because there isn't a strong demand for supporting legacy Windows ARM apps.
Having an Android distro or a Chrome with Android app support distro is much more l
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When you look at what was reported, blaming swapping doesn't make sense at all. I'd suggest someone ran a speed benchmark and didn't notice it was running for weeks 24/7.
Bond CPU. (Score:3)
Despite only being released in November, sales of the M1-powered MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, and Mac mini now represent the majority of Mac sales, outperforming Mac computers powered by Intel processors, according to Apple CEO Tim Cook. MacRumors reports:
Freedom from SPECTRE [wikipedia.org] helps.
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What have the enemies of James Bond got to do with Apple's M1 processor?
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What makes you think speculative fetch and execution doesn't exist on the M1?
There will always be attacks against speculative fetch or execution.
You can have it fast and vulnerable or slow and secure. There isn't a third option.
Duh (Score:2)
Slashdot hate? (Score:5, Insightful)
What's with the overriding hatred of all things Apple for the bulk of slashdot readers / commenters?
I really don't get it.
It's been this way for decades now - anything Apple gets slated by virtually all people who comment.
It usually comes down to price, but so many times when someone actually bothers to do the research, the price point isn't nearly as extreme as imagined, especially when comparing like for like in terms of the full package.
"Oh, but you can't upgrade it - everything is soldered onto the mainboard"
Well, don't buy it then. 99% of users don't give a damn - "Does it work?"
They aren't into tinkering with their hardware.
"But there's no upgrade path - the machines will be obsolete in a few years."
Well, the second hand Mac market seems pretty damn healthy to me - what's the average lifespan of a generic PC?
What's the resale value of the vast majority of generic laptops?
Then we get "the walled garden" complaints - but the obvious reply to that is, you don't have to participate. You are free to choose.
If it were the *only* option available to you, thereby forcing you down that path - fair comment - but it isn't.
There's this unhealthy obsession with all things FOSS - if it doesn't fit into that paradigm, then it just isn't good - crazy.
I prefer the more enlightened agnostic approach - if it works for me, I use it.
macOS works for many people, developers included. The hardware and software are designed to work together, which alleviates many of the problems facing other operating systems.
Sure, you can go and build yourself a hackintosh if you want, which is another interesting aspect, Apple have so far, failed to come down hard on this entire market, despite it being so visible. Either it's because they can't or it suits them, as many people building a hackintosh may come around to buying a Mac?
Either way, it all works for me - I have many computers running different operating systems and see no logical reason to constantly snipe.
It is your choice.
The M1's are also incredibly competent - and lest we forget, this is the entry level chip still - there's more to come.
Ultimately, all this sniping and anti-Apple sentiment is a complete failure to understand the world from the point of view of other people - not everyone is like you.
Re:Slashdot hate? - for the record (Score:3)
Just for the record, I ain't no Apple fanboi - there's LOTS of things I dislike.
The most recent Apple event - so much damn fake cheese, it was awful. Crowing about a purple frikkin' phone.
$99 for three Air Tags - WTF?
But when it comes down to brass tacks, the big announcements were pretty cool. The iPad Pro is quite simply streets ahead of anything else on the market - there is NO denying it. The new iMac? - well, the jury is out on that - but it will please a LOT of people.
As an all-in-one desktop, it suit
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Basically, if you want Apple-equivalent hardware from any other produced, be prepared to pay Apple-equivalent prices.
Compared to other well-known hardware makers, Apple does not have low-end and mid-end - everything they do is high-end (and higher-end, and higher-higher-end).
My wife has both a MacBook Pro and a iMac, and she's very happy with them. The MacBook Pro's memory was upgraded to 32 GB :), better than what the new M1 supports.
Also, the iMac's graphic chip broke and was replaced (a $120+ repair on a
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I think the $99 was for 4 Air Tags, not 3. Not that I'm interested in them either. Only thing I might have needed t
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I would generally not classify /. as anti-Apple, but there are a number of things that many people here believe in that Apple has gone against in different ways. Personally, I have a lot of Apple products, some of them do a better job than their Linux alternatives in certain ways.
I’ve still switched to Linux because I don’t really like the level of control Apple can exert if you are all-in on their ecosystem. The same is true of the big email hosts— I can’t imagine having my sole e
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Apple has **betrayed** techies, because they started being tech-focussed, innovative and good for professionals, and they turned to cater mostly to bling/status gadgets for non-professionals or the "Starbucks resident" kind of professionals. Of course different people like different things, but it's not that hard to get why the hate around tech circles.
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"Betrayed" ? - when did they ever say that was the route they would always tread?
Apple became the mainstay of creative industries, rather than the tech industry - video production, graphics production, sound production etc.
Sure, there's some tech within this, but the heart and soul of Mac users for decades was the creative industry - and it still very much is!
Apple absolutely moved into the consumer market more aggressively - but they were actually already there, just not that visible globally.
Correct me if
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99% of users don't give a damn
Apple's market share was just over 8% in 2020, so I think your claim to know the opinions of the other 91% is open to challenge.
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This.
I've been a professional engineer/programmer for 30 years. I really love Apple products because:
It just works, it really does - when I have to do something on my wife's work computer (windows) I realise just how crap MS is.
Right from the box, I can open a shell and I have all that vim, grep, ls, awk, sed loveliness - absolute joy - and Homebrew means I can install pretty much anything open source
I normally ssh into a big assed server in my basement - voila - linux command line, native Docker etc etc al
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They get mad because the product isn't geared towards them.
I can't install Linux!
Nobody but you cares about that. 99.9999% of the Apple user base is fine with OSX
It only has 16gb of ram!
Again, nobody but you cares about that. These devices are seen as tools. Do you buy an electric drill and complain how you can't upgrade the motor for a higher wattage model?
It's too expensive!
Apple is seen as a premium company and people are willing to pay for it. Dell sells a more expensive workstation than the $50k mac pr
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When I started at my current MSP back in 09 we were an Apple reseller. In short; their business model is to treat everyone like dirt. We ended up dropping the reseller agreement about 4yrs later due to the insane requirements Apple imposed. Don't even get me started on what it would entailed to become an authorized repair center.
Apple as a whole is antithesis of why I got into the field. In a different reality where OSX had 93% of the market and Windows was 7% it would be bleak world. I'm going to draw a te
Chip shortage? (Score:3)
Selling more M1 because there aren't enough Intel. It can be the only explanation.
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Price? Speed?
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Yes, those two are both worse, hence the OP's claim. But I think you both are dismissing primary value of apple being of a luxury fashion brand with high brand loyalty.
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Thank you for wishing I live at least another decade or two. I'll make sure to spend it productively, triggering you.
And how many Hackintosh's? (Score:3, Interesting)
What's surely a driving motivation for Apple's drastic move to drop Intel for M1's is to put a stop to Hackintosh's. For those who don't know, it's become quite easy to install OS X on non-Apple hardware, even AMD based PC's. Hackintosh enthusiasts are distributing installation packages much like Linux distros. I've actually put Mojave on an old Dell i7 myself just for fun. Apparently it's equally easy to install it on current AMD Ryzens, which represents competition that Apple cannot afford in the consumer and pro-sumer desktop and laptop market.
So while I suspect nobody will be able to ascertain remotely reliable numbers, I'm confident that currently the number of Hackintosh's being set up exceeds the difference between Intel Mac and M1 Mac sales, especially since that would include used PC's becoming Hackintosh's. Often that's someone's first attempt and often it works well enough.
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I donâ(TM)t think that many people who want a robust daily productivity machine will go the hackintosh way. For every os upgrade you have to hope it will still work or wait for a fix.
I have hackintosh desktops at work and at home and use them as my primary productivity machines. They work flawlessly and I've been doing this for the last five years.
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That doesn't move you from the outlier category any more than an admission you use a buggy whip.
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Your workplace is ok with you using a pirated operating system? I doubt it. You can't legally install OSX on non Apple hardware.
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M1 (Score:2)
Possibly. I think the main reason they are switching is the same reason they moved away from PowerPC. ARM works a lot better on laptops, and Apple sells a LOT of laptops. If you are going to switch architectures on one product, it doesn't make sense not to do it on the others. I'd imagine the Mac Pro will be the lone Intel holdout until they can get decent AMD/nVidia drivers for their high-end video cards.
Good news show (Score:2)
I predict the sales of Macbooks will fall since many IT contractors need Intel Macbooks since they have to run Windows on it. And no, emulation will not suffice.For me the real cliffhanger is if Apple can entice enough new customers to make up for the shortfall.
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IBM has been allowing users to buy macs for roughly a decade now, and they don't force them to run windows on any of them. Despite that, they've repeatedly reported much higher customer satisfaction, much lower TCO, and (not unrelated) much lower cost to support due to far fewer help desk tickets. The ability to run windows on the machines is simply not relevant to their success in a business setting. I could see IT guys not buying them for their own use for that reason, but what pe
No more Intel means I'm out (Score:2)
M1 Mac Mini - speed with some caveats (Score:5, Informative)
I got an M1 Mac Mini to replace an old 2012 model that was my "canary" for OS betas etc. It is quite impressive in that the base model is cheaper than any Mac I remember, and yet it feels like a fast machine, unlike any Mac Mini I remember. It felt so much faster setting it up, that I ran a battery of Perl tests (as it's the main language at work and nobody does Perl benchmarks :D) and posted the results on perl blogs [perl.org]. It does great to superb on most things that are native, but it can be slower on non-native things (or even very slow, like current Android studio under Rosetta 2) and I did find a problem waking the M1 from sleep - at least one simple benchmark gets stuck at about half speed until a reboot.
I personally think the MacOS is a good development platform, you get a unix system with a polished GUI, even though every OS version adds restrictions, so I am not sure for how much longer it will be a good solution for devs (other than MacOS/iOS devs of course). And devices are expensive and non-upgradeable, to the point they are now soldering SSDs apart from RAM. What's worse, the M1 Macs require a secure volume on the SSD to be readable (in the name of security of course), even when booting from an external device, so when that SSD goes, you can't even boot from an external disk. Given that, I'd definitely avoid paying for expensive Macbooks and iMacs that are designed to be obsolete, which leaves the Mac Mini the only one that makes sense at its price point for me.
Intel has stalled to the point low-power ARM chips are now competitive, but if you don't specifically want a MacOS system, you can get a nice system with an AMD Zen 2 - based CPU which will be faster than an M1 - maybe not at everything single threaded, but probably at most, plus you get a whole lot more of fast cores than the M1 currently provides.
Probably because.... (Score:2)
The 2018 models (or maybe it was 2017? Every year is a blur now) had utterly crappy keyboards.
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Are they still though? Aside from Linux being very good and an option from major vendors, WSL2 is also very decent.
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Yes, they are.
All my servers run Linux, all my desktops are Macs, and I am forced by company policy to have a Windows partition on the company notebook, and I can tell you with 100% certainty that my productivity would instantly drop by at least 20% if I had to do my work under Windows.
The cobbled-together that current Windows versions are isn't made better by tacking in more parts in odd places. WSL included.
Re: iPad with options (Score:2)
Replace best with only
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Strange because basically all the big properties on the inet are linux.
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DOS isn't dead, because Windows is run on very widely. You heard it here first folks.
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Linux requires Unix today. You heard it here first folks.
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Damn I must've hit a nerve. Not even sure what nerve. But dang is that a weird thing to just go full ballistic into personal attack over.
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It seems that you're raging so hard, you became incoherent. Make yourself a nice cup of tea, go out, kick a ball into a wall a few times. Then come back and if you still feel the need to express yourself, I'll read it.
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I think that was his point.
Windows has nothing to do with DOS anymore. But if you open up cmd, it acts a lot like DOS, because cmd is a modernized DOS command prompt clone. No one however uses this fact to claim that DOS rules the desktop, just that it's interface was for whatever reason deemed worth designing around in some modern context.
Similarly, Linux (nor GNU userland) does not require Unix nor does it derive from Unix, but it does act a lot like Unix, except generally better. It goes a bit deeper tha
Re:iPad with options (Score:4, Insightful)
Linux isn't Unix.
From a common user experience perspective, it's close enough to not matter. However no one ever aimed for being completely compliant with Unix standard (because in practice, it doesn't matter, in fact at this point Linux is the much much more popular set of standards in the industry).
However, Apple at least did target Unix compatible and at least back in the day used this specific compliance and certification as marketing material.
So Unix is pretty much dead, and mostly killed by Linux.
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Alright, if you word it that way. But then you should make it clear by writing UNIX(tm).
Aaaand even then it's not strictly speaking correct, as there are Linux distros that have been certified as UNIX(tm).
In spirit, though, I agree.
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Unix is a brand and represents something specific (that no one actually cares about, especially not today, and not *really* that much in the past):
If you develop your code to this standard, it can compile and execute on Solaris, HP-UX, AIX, and OSX. No one cares because the standard subset doesn't have that much functionality, and you'll want to go to more specific APIs. When 'industry standard but closed source' met 'not strictly standardized but open and can be repackaged', the open way won.
It can also r
Errrm, ... No. (!?) (Score:5, Insightful)
Unix is a dead product.
Ahem, ... no it's not.
iOS is Unix at the core, so is macOS. And Android. And Chrome OS.
Unless you draw the distinction between Linux and Unix - which IMHO doesn't make sense. The part that makes Linux somewhat distinct from Unix is the part that is most controversial (It's name shall not be uttered in these halls for it awakens the eternal Demons of Flamewar), so that doesn't really count.
With iOS, macOS, Android, Chrome OS all the *nix Hosts running the internet Unix is far from dead. And I'd argue that most experts consider Linux todays Unix and the old proprietary versions of Unix simply outdated versions of any contemporary FOSS *nix. Which is basically the right way to see it.
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When Apple back in the day applied the 'macOSX is Unix', this was specific, compliance and certification to the Single Unix Specification version 3'. Unix technically refers to a platform that has bothered to do this.
Linux has not bothered to do this at any point in time. Also, Apple hasn't revisited that in years, though by virtue of taking care of it over 15 years ago, it technically still counts. However, they haven't really touched that since they gave up on making servers.
Most experts consider platform
Microsoft POSIX, XENIX (Score:2)
Windows NT was originally implemented [wikipedia.org] with three separate "userlands" which were: OS/2, Win32, and POSIX.
This is on top of Micro [wikipedia.org]
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Unix is a dead product.
That tipped everyone off that your post is satirical. You should make it a bit less obvious. ;-)
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I woke up this morning expecting to be modded down to hell because my comments about Mac. Didn't know it would be my comment about Unix being dead that would set everyone off. :)
Linux is Unix like, It is not Unix. Unix, as in SysV and BSD variations like Solaris and AIX are indeed still around and kicking in some places. But then again so are Commodore 64's. But out side of those nitch environments, for all practical purposed Unix is a dead product. It was murdered by someone, and that penguins
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The amount of software devs buying Macs says otherwise. Nobody except you cheap Linux fucks care about the machine being locked down. Their computer is a tool to get a job done. They don't care if the operating system source code is available. They care that it works reliably.
Re:iPad with options (Score:4, Insightful)
Hardly. A locked down operating system on locked down hardware will never be "the best unix desktop machine you can buy". Try a Thinkpad running virtually any GNU/Linux distribution capable of running MATE. That'll always be superior to Apple, even if the GP's comment goes a tad overboard.
GNU is not Unix. Mac OS X is.
https://www.opengroup.org/open... [opengroup.org]
For not even $2,000, Apple will sell you a Unix laptop with an industry-leading custom CPU and great battery life. It comes in unibody a aluminum shell, has US-based phone support, and a retail store within driving distance that handles repairs. If you strapped 3 lbs of dead weight to it, raised the price to $6,000, and slapped a Solaris sticker on it; Slashdot would think it was the greatest laptop ever and people should just save up for it to get a real computer.
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I've actually done some video editing on an M1 Mini and it performs about as well as an Intel iMac with an i7 and maxed out RAM. It will be interesting to see how their high-end chips perform when they finally release them. My bet is that they're doing all the M1 stuff first so they can produce as many as possible and take advantage of scales of economy. The M1 was probably not the most ideal chip for the iPad Pro—like with the Air, heat constraints will likely throttle it—but by shoving it in a
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You had me going there until that last sentence:
>If Cook's vertical integration plan is successful, they will be able to provide high-end desktops at cheaper prices than comparable PCs.
Apple's primary draw is it's status as a luxury fashion accessory. Hence sales of garbage tier hardware at inflated prices alongside somewhat competitive hardware, but you get the nice led lit apple logo, with branded bags and covers that literally have a hole so that others can see that logo.
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So I take it you'd volunteer to be a death camp guard to have me do slave labour for you before you gas me when I'm worn out?
Yepp, that's exactly what it is. (Score:2)
The M1 is just a glorified iPad with various screen and case options, that's all.
Yepp, that's exactly what it is.
x86 was outdated already in '93. ARM has always been the superior architecture. That's why it's in smartphones - because it, among other things, saves notable amounts of energy. So the new MB Pro being "a glorified iPad" is actually what makes it so interesting in the first place.
I'm using a 2 year old MB Pro with Touchbar, TouchID, Retina Display and Butterfly KB . which I've always liked - and
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The M1 is just a glorified iPad with various screen and case options, that's all.
Fully agree for this part.
Some specs (support for limited amount of RAM, no current support from complex devices like GPU on the PCIe bus, only SSDs) definitely point to this being an initially smartphone/table CPU that got quickly crammed into a laptop case.
But the only reason Apple still has a major presence in the desktop market is from serious graphics/video users, and as the M1 stands today those users will never touch one.
That the part where I don't fully agree.
What you seem to imply is that tablets and smartphone lack any computationnal power to handle video.
That not the case:
- There as been a big arms race for quite some time among high-end flagship smartphone to cram
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Unless you want one that has 32G or more. None of Apple's current line of M1-based Macs are expandable to more than 16G
I mean, you *did* explicitly say buying a new Mac NOW...