Apple Launches $100 Million Racial Justice Initiative; YouTube Creates $100 Million Fund for Black Creators and Artists (variety.com) 229
Apple CEO Tim Cook on Thursday announced a $100 million project focused on the systemic barriers to opportunity and dignity faced by the black community, with special emphasis on education, economic equality and criminal justice reform. Details: The effort will begin in the U.S., then expand internationally over time.
It will be led by Lisa Jackson, the former EPA administrator who has led Apple's environmental efforts for the last several years.
Apple is also addressing internal issues, promising to boost its hiring of underrepresented minorities and increase its spending with black-owned suppliers. YouTube announced a multiyear, $100 million fund dedicated to "amplifying and developing the voices of Black creators and artists and their stories," according to CEO Susan Wojcicki. From a report: "At YouTube, we believe Black lives matter and we all need to do more to dismantle systemic racism," Wojcicki wrote in a blog post. "We're committed to doing better as a platform to center and amplify Black voices and perspectives." As an example of content being funded under the new initiative, Wojcicki announced that this Saturday, June 13, YouTube will host livestream fundraising event produced by YouTube Originals, called "Bear Witness, Take Action."
It will be led by Lisa Jackson, the former EPA administrator who has led Apple's environmental efforts for the last several years.
Apple is also addressing internal issues, promising to boost its hiring of underrepresented minorities and increase its spending with black-owned suppliers. YouTube announced a multiyear, $100 million fund dedicated to "amplifying and developing the voices of Black creators and artists and their stories," according to CEO Susan Wojcicki. From a report: "At YouTube, we believe Black lives matter and we all need to do more to dismantle systemic racism," Wojcicki wrote in a blog post. "We're committed to doing better as a platform to center and amplify Black voices and perspectives." As an example of content being funded under the new initiative, Wojcicki announced that this Saturday, June 13, YouTube will host livestream fundraising event produced by YouTube Originals, called "Bear Witness, Take Action."
Yay equality! (Score:5, Insightful)
Nothing says equality more than special privileges based on skin color!
Re:Yay EQUITY! (Score:2, Informative)
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Re: Yay EQUITY! (Score:2)
Sounds like giving people money based on their skin colour is the exact opposite of equity.
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Re: Yay equality! (Score:5, Insightful)
Yes
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because reasons.
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Mostly ransoms.
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Re: Yay equality! (Score:4, Insightful)
BINGO!
The problem isn't systemic racism; it's a culture that eschews education and hard work, blames all failures on outside forces, and considers it a "sell out" to achieve economic prosperity via the way everyone else does it: education, hard work, and a few decades of sweat. It is a cultural problem, and new immigrant blacks aren't steeped in that culture. Ergo the difference.
The success of 1st and 2nd generation immigrant blacks is the complete destruction of the mantra of "systemic racism".
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The problem isn't systemic racism
Yes it is.
it's a culture that eschews education
Yes it is.
The thing is, as soon as you think you've identified the one thing it is and the one thing it isn't all you've managed to do is demonstrate how little thought you've applied to the topic.
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Re:Yay equality! (Score:5, Insightful)
Sure, because no other people in this society have special privileges.
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When has it been established that it is possible to make things "right"?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
1 Asian 87,194
2 Non Hispanic White 70,642
You know, except it's been rigged poorly. White people even suck at rigging systems.
Re:Yay equality! (Score:5, Informative)
Why would you only show the first two entries? Let's look at the full list, by per capita income instead of family income, where Asians have the advantage of living in larger multi-generational households. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Asian 34,399
White 32,910
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander 21,168
Hispanic and other races 20,277
American Indian and Alaska Native 18,085
Black or African Americans 16,580
While things don't look that much better for Asians than for Whites, they sure look pretty bleak for other racial groups.
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Why are you ignoring the pay of other minorities? White privilege is not primarily about pay inequality. It is about being treated like a law abiding citizen, by default.
And let me remind you, no one is really discussing the situation for Asians here. They have their own issues, which are different from other minorities. But that's an entirely different discussion.
We are discussing the pay for blacks in America. Nobody is setting up a fund for Asians. Stop trying to distract from the real issues with irrele
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Why are you ignoring the pay of other minorities? ... We are discussing the pay for blacks in America.
So your contention is we are only racist towards blacks, and not other minorities? Then can you explain why black immigrants [slashdot.org] vastly out-earn native-born (3rd+ generation) blacks? Why they have so much higher educational attainment? Is there some secret command that "thou shalt not discriminate against blacks until their family has been in the US for 3 generations"?
As far as Asians, as a guy married to a Chinese lady, I can tell you the racism towards Chinese (especially now) is quite strong. But she use
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My contention is that I do not choose to engage with your irrelevant tangent. Full stop.
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Irrelevant tangent? It is an irrelevant tangent when
SPUN: We are discussing the pay for blacks in America
to bring up the fact that, in terms of economic prosperity, 1st and 2nd generation black immigrants not only vastly out-perform native-born (3rd+ generation) blacks, but often out-perform native-born whites?
I can see how that would be deemed "irrelevant" by you because it does not support your pre-ordained conclusion of systemic racism. I guess you're like Joe Biden - you'll take "truth" over facts. Of course, the "truth" is just what you feel it should
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So your contention is we are only racist towards blacks, and not other minorities?
LynwoodRooster logic:
1. Use flawed data.
2. When called out on that data, point out a subtle outlier in all minorities and focus on one topic to support his narrative.
3. When that argument fails attempt to point blame on a single sub group even though all data up until now has shown that it affects multiple groups.
Stop being such a racist fuckwit.
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Do you think black people are, by default, treated as honest, law abiding citizens in this country?
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No, I actually listen to what they say. I'm not asking what you do. I am asking, do you think black people are, by default, treated the same as white people?
As an add on question, what do black people themselves say about the issue? Have you asked any?
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California ended affirmative action in 1996. So. When you google for "best states to be black" what do you get? California in the top 5 [theroot.com], and in particular, doing very well for Blacks with college degrees.
Maybe they're doing other things to get around the "ban", but whatever they're doing it doesn't seem to be broken in this regard.
But forget all that. You know what hit the headlines in the last few days? California wants to bring back affirmative action.
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systematically undervalued groups
Gonna focus in like a laser beam here. WHAT SYSTEM is undervaluing blacks? Name an actual system that is designed, structured, and operates TODAY (or even in the last 40 years) to specifically discriminate against a given racial group.
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systematically undervalued groups
Gonna focus in like a laser beam here. WHAT SYSTEM is undervaluing blacks? Name an actual system that is designed, structured, and operates TODAY (or even in the last 40 years) to specifically discriminate against a given racial group.
The police.
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Re: Yay equality! (Score:3)
On the cobtrary; I think the police highly value blacks. Without them police budgets would be way lower.
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This isn't the case though In Canada, both Asians and East
Re:Yay equality! (Score:5, Insightful)
When we talk of "privilege" what we mean is simply being treated like an honest, law abiding human being by default. Many minorities have to earn that by going out of their way to prove themselves. They do not get the default assumptions the rest of us get, and so those assumptions are actually privileges, not rights.
Because we've all seen so many minorities portrayed as criminals, dead beats and predators in so many different media, subconsciously we may look at them as dangerous "others" without knowing anything about them. These subconscious assumptions are at the heart of systemic racism. It's not actually about hating minorities, racism is about the unexamined, default assumptions we all make.
You may be low on the white guy totem pole, but that pole starts head and shoulders above the poles women and minorities have to climb. You don't think of yourself as privileged because, compared to others in your cohort, you are not as successful. But you still have all the default privileges that come with looking a certain way. Upon fist meeting you, people will give you the benefit of the doubt. You have to prove you are a bad guy before they think of you as one. Whereas for minorities, they have to prove they are "one of the good ones" before people will see them as anything but a criminal, con-artist, or no good lazy bum.
Racism isn't really about looking at black person and hating them (though that happens.) It is about looking at a black person, and seeing a criminal. You don't hate black people, you just hate criminals, and for some reason, every black person you look at happens to look just like a criminal.
Not looking like a criminal by default is the real white privilege.
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You don't hate black people, you just hate criminals, and for some reason, every black person you look at happens to look just like a criminal.
Ahhh, see, this is where liberals lose the folks they are trying to win over, and precisely why all of these current efforts will amount to precisely nothing. It's not "for some reason." It's not for some magical, mystical cause, something that all whites are born with, like "original sin." It doesn't happen in a vacuum. Like almost everything, it is learned through observation. Let's discuss the uncomfortable facts: black people really DO commit more crimes per capita than other races [fbi.gov] (remember when you look at these charts, blacks make up about 13% of the US population). Be honest. Turn on the news in any major metro area any night of the week and watch the first ten minutes, and describe who was reported to be committing most of the crimes. Blacks also are born into single-parent households at abysmal rates [kidscount.org] (and science tells us that one of the most important factors in positive outcomes for kids is being born into a stable, dual parent household [nih.gov] -- even if those two parents are of the same gender [sciencedaily.com]).
You can certainly discuss the reasons for these things, but it's not at all up for debate whether or not they are true. Don't you think these critical FACTS might have some bearing on why people generalize about blacks the ways that they do? No? I guess it's just easier to spout off about "privilege" when in fact outcomes are very often related to CHOICES people make every day. Don't break the law. Don't have kids until you're married or at least in a stable relationship. Value education. You don't have to be white to practice any of these things, and none of them are hard. In fact, why not call it Asian privileges? Asian Americans out-perform ALL other races in pretty much every meaningful outcome in the US. No racial group commits fewer crimes, has less kids out of wedlock, or performs better academically.
Instead of acknowledging that black people (like eveyone in a community) also must bear some responsibility if they're to be treated as equals and improve their own societal standings, you go on to blame whites because they've (correctly) observed that a disproportionate amount of the people committing the crime ARE black, and act accordingly -- often out of legit fear or self-preservation. But you want it both ways: you want to insist that blacks must be treated equally (which is absolutely valid) but then go through a dizzying array of gymnastics to rationalize why they're all victims -- even when it's not true -- and absolve them of all personal accountability. Pro tip: successful black people hate that shit. They KNOW they are masters of their own destiny, and don't need some lily-scented cracker like you painting them as a victim just to assuage your own white guilt. And they don't want to be around the black lawbreakers any more than white people do.
You've got to be honest about the situation if anything is ever going to change, but people don't want to be honest -- they want special rules and privileges that benefit their group, and they want payback, too. So here we are with yet another round of protests that accomplish NOTHING, because at the end of the day, people see through that shit and won't go along with it.
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Then why do you continue to engage with me?
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Thanks spun, you put that better than I ever could and I'm really glad that it's been modded up. Moderation has improved dramatically over the last couple of days.
Thanks again.
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Affirmative Action is not what you think it is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
And yes, because minorities are systematically undervalued in our society, we still need that program.
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Nobody is calling for segregated health care. No one is saying "only blacks can treat blacks." No one is saying that these black doctors and nurses would only serve blacks.
The Seattle protesters (one group among many currently protesting in the USA) are simply calling for more black doctors and nurses, so that when black patients are treated, they see role models and examples of what they can become if they work for it.
It's also because Black folks suffer from some different types of health issues. For exam
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Nobody is calling for segregated health care.
That is literally what they are demanding:
Additionally, more black doctors and nurses should be hired by the city at health facilities to specifically help black patients, they demand.
We need more black doctors and nurses to help black parents. Literally.
However, I see you're perfectly comfortable assuming a white doctor will not be aware of medical conditions more common to blacks. How wonderfully racist of you...
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According to the article you linked, no one is demanding segregated health care. If you can provide some quote that shows otherwise, do so.
Otherwise, I will not continue to debate you.
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The specific demand is, and I quote, "We demand the hospitals and care facilities of Seattle employ black doctors and nurses specifically to help care for black patients." It does not say "Only black patients" anywhere in that demand. That would be unconstitutional. That specific demand is also pretty far down the list of demands. But I can see why someone pushing the agenda of white grievance would focus on it, it is poorly worded.
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That's not what that quote is saying though.
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It is EXACTLY what it is saying:
We demand
We, being BLM and the DSA - the cretins who are "occupying" a portion of Seattle.
the hospitals and care facilities of Seattle
Who needs to take action? Hospitals and care facilities.
employ black doctors and nurses
A specific race of employees must be provided - black, in this case
specifically to help care for black patients.
They are specifically targeted to helping black - not other races - patients.
They are literally asking for black doctors and nurses for black patients. Not MORE doctors and MORE nurses, not white or Asian or Hispanic providers, not black doctors for white patients. BLACK
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What do you think Affirmative Action actually does?
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Why do you think that? What sort of evidence did you use to come to that conclusion?
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Make things equal
Stop. Before you go further, are we talking about making opportunity equal, or outcome equal? Think long and hard before you answer...
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Are you sure this guy wasn't a white person.
He really sounds like a white person to me.
Isn't it strange... (Score:4, Insightful)
...how the skin colour of Indians doesnt stop them getting the top jobs? Nor do they bleat about white privilege or oppression despite that being what the British empire did to them, Perhaps unlike certain other communities they get off their backsides and work hard and dont blame their problems on everyone except themselves. Ditto the chinese.
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I'm no sociologist, but I think India is a very different thing. Indians have a caste system. They inherently accept inequality as the norm. Fighting it would have been futile over the centuries- those in power certainly weren't going to give up power. The lower-classes had no method nor hope of joining together and fighting it (as they still don't).
As much as people like to rail against the British empire, and as bad as many things probably were (I only know a very little), the lower classes took advan
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Also because they have the highest median income?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
By ancestry
Indian American (2016) : $132,746 [1]
Australian American (2016) : $90,930[2]
South African American (2017) : $90,517[2]
Taiwanese American (2016) : $90,221[1]
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Wow, that's all very interesting. I never looked at that before. Well, a lot of them are doctors, bio-tech researchers, engineers, IT developers and admins.
Re:Isn't it strange... (Score:5, Informative)
If systematic oppression were real, surely we should expect to see both of American blacks and immigrant blacks suffer equally from it, but that's not the case. The author of the article does bring up an argument of culture as being partially responsible (as well as the difficulty of pinning down what that's supposed to mean or how to measure it), but one of the most obvious explanations for the difference is the staggering number of black children being raised by single mothers as opposed to the immigrant populations which are almost always two parent families. If you do any kind of analysis on criminality, that factor is one of the largest and if you control for that factor alone it explains over a third of the supposed gap between black and white crime that people like to parrot so often.
Worse yet, you have groups that position themselves as trying to help solve these imagined problems that are only exacerbating them. Here's something from the What We Believe page of one such group [blacklivesmatter.com]:
We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.
How can anyone support that? It's the exact opposite of what should be done. It's maddening. It's so irresponsible and misguided that you'd almost think it were intentional. It's like a group that wants to end global warming describing how they're going to accomplish it by increasing the amount of carbon that they release in the air.
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We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.
When I was growing up (two score years ago), that's how it was to a large extent; if a child was misbehaving it was assumed ANY parent could scold the child, and the parent would sheepishly take the child away and DAMN was a penalty paid for embarrassing the parent in public!
Try that today, and you'll get a thousand angry voices calling for your scalp for daring to suggest that a parent is failing because their child was acting out, and you told the kid to quiet down or stop acting out...
Apparently the vil
Re:Isn't it strange... (Score:4, Insightful)
Some people seem to think that immigrants are all poor, no education, desperate, pull themselves up from their bootstraps types.
In reality many are highly educated and skilled, young and motivated. So naturally when they arrive they do better than many of those already there.
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If anything that is a sign of systematic oppression. They were born into a broken system where the African immigrants were not. Their manner of speech, mode of dress, psychological damage, overly imprisoned parents and so on are all set against them in interactions in the US.
There was far less wealth disparity between blacks and whites in the 1960s than there is today. If "racism" and "systematic opression" were the explanation, you'd have to argue that our society is more racist and more oppressive today than it was in the 1940s-1960s.
You would, in other words, have to be a lunatic.
There is also going to be strong selection bias if you look at immigrants. They are people who were in a position to leave everything familiar to them. Thy might be ready to work twice as hard and ready to accept and ignore all kinds of obstacles set against them than the average American.
Do you mean to tell me that if you are willing to work hard you can get ahead ... no matter what race you are?
Wow. That's a powerful idea. Maybe you should tell that to all the people screaming a
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It was as recently as 75 years ago a group of people were imprisoned, many for more than two years, with their ethnicity being the sole justification. The Japanese people have become very successful in the United States since that time. More successful than white people by several measures.
Shifting to a tangent just to throw fuel on the fire... I will note that the order to evict these people and detain them was signed by FDR. Yes, the FDR of "The New Deal" fame. The same FDR that on multiple occasions expr
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Let's be real (Score:5, Insightful)
If either of these companies gave a damn about trying to fix any of these problems they're going about it in the wrong way. The best thing either could do to help break the cycle of poverty that so many black people face on a generational basis would be to hire employees who don't have a college degree, or even who may not have finished high school. Maybe that seems overly simplistic, but it really is a huge deal because any job experience makes it easier to get another job and people actually build and develop skillsets while they work which are often just as or more valuable than any degree.
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What are the odds that any of this money actually makes it into the hands of someone who's poor
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Let's be fair. You are exaggerating by only mentioning the upper limit.
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The same odds that any of the people donating to Black Lives Matter know that ALL of the money goes directly to ActBlue, a PAC dedicated to Democrat political candidates.
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This is untrue. It seems to originate from Reddit and was repeated by such reputable publications as Sputnik News.
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Liar.
Go here: https://blacklivesmatter.com/ [blacklivesmatter.com]
Click the Donate button and it takes you here: https://secure.actblue.com/don... [actblue.com]
In the fine print at the bottom of BLM's donation page it said very clearly that donations are collected by ActBlue. It's curiously not there today once it was reported - not on Reddit, although the CEO gave an evasive answer in an AMA about where the money is going. ActBlue's TOS says very clearly that they chose where to spend the money they raise and it may not go to the cause sp
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Let's be real for a minute. What are the odds that any of this money actually makes it into the hands of someone who's poor and still living rough and might actually benefit from the help...
Good point. Reminds me the article other day about growing "tent cities" around Cupertino, a very wealthy tech hub but ever increasing number of homeless. It seems root problem is the business model of Silicon Valley.
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That's certainly what Intel did when they put $300 million in a few years ago. Much of it went in to improving hiring and developing training and gateway programmes.
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It really seems like this time was different. Good.
Nothing less than a bribe (Score:2)
They're attempting to placate the revolutionaries with cash. They're going to be shocked when the crocodile eats them anyway.
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Mmm... crocodiles.
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Would you settle for orange? :)
YouTube (Score:2)
What exactly is this money for that YouTube is putting up? Pretty much *anyone* has the ability to record and edit high quality videos in this day and age. In the US you can already get cell phones and service for FREE if you are disadvantaged (that applies to anyone who qualifies based on financial situation, and isn't a racist program). So I'm just curious what the YouTube money is for exactly. I'm also curious if there is actually some misrepresentation of the black population in YouTube, or if the av
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They are trying to be relevant and have a pile of cash sitting there in case anyone questions how little they have done.
Guilt and feelings of being irrelevant makes people do funny things.
stupid question, I suppose (Score:2)
...but if you agree that we need "corrective" racism to counteract centuries of anti-black racism, what's your endpoint that "ok we're equal enough that it can stop now"?
I mean, for example there are all sorts of programs to encourage / help women into higher education, and now that the majority of college students are female, shouldn't we be shutting those things down?
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If you feel this angry about charities helping people other than you, imagine you would feel about a lifetime facing systemic and overt racism.
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If that isn't racism, I don't know.. Even 'positive' racisim/discrimination is still racism/discimination...
Yes but if everyone is racist against a different group then the entire world levels out. If you want to stop "positive discrimination" then I suggest you tear down the structure that brought about negative discrimination in the first place rather than whining that someone is daring to attempt to level the playing field.
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Part of the reason for breakup of families amongst the poor is that single mothers get more in welfare than families with children. People respond to incentives.
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Black Lives Matter (Score:2)
As Long as they Speak English. Otherwise, no one gives a shit, apparently.
All well and good, yet... (Score:2)
People who are stuck in poverty tend to stay (or return to it) there no matter what is done.
Itâ(TM)s quite depressing...
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Where do corporations get money from on your planet?
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