Apple Plans to Reopen Some Stores in America This Week, But Customers Must Wear Masks (cnbc.com) 86
An anonymous reader quotes CNBC:
Apple released its blueprint Sunday night for how it will reopen its retail stores once it is safe to due so, per official coronavirus health guidelines. It will also open 25 stores in the U.S. this week.
When a store reopens, customers will be required to submit to a temperature check and wear a mask before entering the store, according to the guidelines, written by Apple's retail and human resources boss Deirdre O'Brien. If a customer doesn't have a mask, Apple will provide them with one.
Apple also announced on Sunday several stores in the U.S. that will be reopening this week. Some of the stores will allow customers in, while others will only offer curbside pick-up service. Apple stores will be reopening this week in a handful of states including Florida, California (curbside service), Washington (curbside service), Hawaii, Oklahoma and Colorado. O'Brien said stores would reopen per local official guidelines, and could even close again if lockdown orders in a certain area have to be renacted.
Reuters notes Apple's move is "continuing a gradual process that has unlocked doors at nearly a fifth of its worldwide retail outlets." Around the world nearly 100 Apple stores have already done some form of re-opening, the guidelines state, adding that "In every store, we're focused on limiting occupancy and giving everybody lots of room, and renewing our focus on one-on-one, personalized service... Throughout the day, we're conducting enhanced deep cleanings that place special emphasis on all surfaces, display products, and highly trafficked areas..."
"Down the road, when we reflect on COVID-19, we should always remember how so many people around the world put the well-being of others at the center of their daily lives. At Apple, we plan to carry those values forward, and we will always put the health and safety of our customers and teams above all else."
When a store reopens, customers will be required to submit to a temperature check and wear a mask before entering the store, according to the guidelines, written by Apple's retail and human resources boss Deirdre O'Brien. If a customer doesn't have a mask, Apple will provide them with one.
Apple also announced on Sunday several stores in the U.S. that will be reopening this week. Some of the stores will allow customers in, while others will only offer curbside pick-up service. Apple stores will be reopening this week in a handful of states including Florida, California (curbside service), Washington (curbside service), Hawaii, Oklahoma and Colorado. O'Brien said stores would reopen per local official guidelines, and could even close again if lockdown orders in a certain area have to be renacted.
Reuters notes Apple's move is "continuing a gradual process that has unlocked doors at nearly a fifth of its worldwide retail outlets." Around the world nearly 100 Apple stores have already done some form of re-opening, the guidelines state, adding that "In every store, we're focused on limiting occupancy and giving everybody lots of room, and renewing our focus on one-on-one, personalized service... Throughout the day, we're conducting enhanced deep cleanings that place special emphasis on all surfaces, display products, and highly trafficked areas..."
"Down the road, when we reflect on COVID-19, we should always remember how so many people around the world put the well-being of others at the center of their daily lives. At Apple, we plan to carry those values forward, and we will always put the health and safety of our customers and teams above all else."
What about staff (Score:2)
"But Customers Must Wear Masks "
Ok, but will staff have to wear one too?
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No gloves though. The biggest risk in an Apple store would seem to be touching the demo products and surfaces that other people have touched.
Some hand sanitizer wouldn't go amiss either.
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According to Apple it is. Or what would you call the headphone jack thing? Smart? Sensible?
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Courage is not stupidity, and stupidity is not courage.
Well put. The difference between a mountaineer and an idiot is preparation and risk management. A special forces solider primarily learns to plan, prepare and be ready for whatever will happen. Going into an area where you expect you may have to pass close to other people not wearing a face covering is tantamount to negligence. You are putting everyone else at risk needlessly.
What's worst about this is that the other people are probably wearing masks so you probably aren't putting yourself at risk. Ther
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What's wrong Apple? Lost the "courage".
They just replaced it with #CONSUME.
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As of May 18th, Sweden now has a 360 per-capita death rate compared to the 270 of the US. And it still has an abysmal recovery vs. infection rate and for a developed nation with a good healthcare system also a fairly bad outcome statistics.
In other words, I wouldn't use it as a role model. But hey, if you want to kill yourself, don't let me stop you.
Re:Swedes have proven that masks are not necessary (Score:4, Informative)
As of May 13, the Swedish death rate due to the coronavirus is approximately the American rate, where "rate" is "death count divided by the national population count".
this appalling rate is eight times the death rate in Norway, their immediate neighbour and five times that in Denmark, another Scandinavian country which made mistakes but then corrected. This death rate comes despite the early lockdown in Sweden where travel to Italy was already discouraged in early March and the people have been much more careful in their social distancing than other nations. Imagine the USA with a death rate ten times the current death rate, had the various states not imposed a lockdown against Trump's wishes. Swedes have abandoned their elderly to the charnel houses of their care homes [irishtimes.com], admitting their strategy was a terrible mistake [fr24news.com] but failing to take responsibility for it. Sweden's bloodthirsty culture needs to be cut out like a cancer from the civilised world.
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Sweden had "eugenic" sterilizations [wikipedia.org] all the way into the 1970s. It seems they never really abandoned this outlook.
Customers Must Wear Masks (Score:1)
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Re:Customers Must Wear Masks (Score:5, Informative)
You don't need dongles for it. It's wireless and it uses the latest self-adhesive technology child labour can produce.
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Speaking of which Bluetooth masks are a thing now. Built in bone conducting speakers.
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What dongle matters little, what you do with it on the other hand
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What about those folks that wear hankies over their nose and mouth that do no good?
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They do good. They slow the spread of water vapor as you exhale. It is not to protect you, but to protect those near you.
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Forcing people to wear a mask by your US government IS unconstitutional.
[citation needed]
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Yeah, I don't think you're going to get that citation. If forcing you to wear a mask is unconstitutional, then wouldn't forcing you to wear clothing be unconstitutional?
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Yeah, I don't think you're going to get that citation. If forcing you to wear a mask is unconstitutional, then wouldn't forcing you to wear clothing be unconstitutional?
Like almost everything, it depends on circumstances. You can be forced to do things if there is a good reason (a disease is spreading, for example) and the things are proportional and reasonable (wearing a mask would be fine; killing your potentially infected children would not).
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Like almost everything, it depends on circumstances. You can be forced to do things if there is a good reason (a disease is spreading, for example) and the things are proportional and reasonable (wearing a mask would be fine; killing your potentially infected children would not).
unless the disease is a zombie outbreak. There needs to be legislation that mandates euthanasia for bite victims, even your children. We'd probably need mandatory masks too, it's not going to save you from a zombie, but anyone who turns with a mask on will have a much harder time biting people as a zombie. flatten the curve.
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The court has standing to interpret laws where the laws conflict with each other or where the law has fuzzy edges not well spelled out. The supreme court butts in when multiple jurisdictions disagree with each other; they are not legislating from the bench but deciding a complex case where others have valid arguments on both side.
People who think the constitution is clear and unambiguous are almost always in the same camp who think that bible verses must always be read literally. Except in the latter case
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so let me get this straight. you think a business should have the right to discriminate against people but not the right to require mask wearing? Do you also feel "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service" is an affront to your civil rights?
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You need to get something straight, illegal in many states to wear a mask. Anyone who requires wearing a mask in them is guilty of incitement.
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I am mostly sure asthma counts in what I bolded above.
If you are actually having an asthma attack then you should take your mask off and should not go into a shop full stop or likely get out of the shop at the first convenient opportunity if the attack happens whilst you are in there. If you aren't having an asthma attack then it's particularly important to wear a high quality and regularly replaced mask and follow full hand hygene procedures because you are a person at very high risk if you become infected.
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Nope. You're wrong.
You know how the government can force businesses to do business with gay people and men who think they're really women? It's the same reasoning: if your business is open to the public, then you're not allowed to put restrictions on who "the public" is. And you can't make someone wear a mask to be allowed to enter your store.
Bzzt! Wrong, my moronic, homophobic, transphobic, Trumpian non-friend.
Ever seen âoeNo shirt, no shoes, no serviceâ?
Ever seen âoePets (except service animals) not allowedâ?
Those restrictions are allowed because there us a Public Health Issue which overrides any 1st or 14th Amendment right of the individual, for the greater good of the public.
Now, which category do you think requiring face coverings to enter a store in the middle of a global pandemic falls into:
1. Public Health?
2. Distaste
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Sadly, there are some people who think that wearing face masks is a lifestyle choice. They already label them as liberal in many cases. Others thinking it's copying asian culture, which is a stone's throw from being communist.
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I can't ban people for things that they can't control--race, sexual preference, gender, etc. I can ban people for reasons other than their race, sexual preference, gender, etc. "We reserve the right to refuse service." There are plenty of night-clubs and restaurants that will deny entry if you are not dressed "appropriately" and that's perfectly legal. There are places that won't allow you in if you're wearing certain "gang" colors or accessories. I can deny you entry to my business if you are carrying a firearm--even if you are legally allowed to carry one.
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You completely misunderstand what you are trying to prove here.
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If forced vaccination is constitutional, then mask wearing is probably constitutional, too.
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Please try again.
No, you try. You asserted that wearing a mask is unconstitutional, and you didn't support it. What do you have? Are you making stuff up, or do you have a reason for believing it?
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I said the government cannot force me to do something (like wearing a a mask). My rights "cannot be abridged".
And you gave no legal reasoning to support your point. You can't, because there isn't. The bill of rights doesn't protect your right to not wear a mask.
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I said the government cannot force me to do something (like wearing a a mask). My rights "cannot be abridged".
The government can force you to do many things, you are just wrong.
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The bill of rights is a list of what the government can't do, not a list of what the people CAN do.
You have asserted something, which is fine, but you need to explain how your assertion applies in this situation. I'll give you an example:
The bill of rights is a list of what the government can't do. Nothing on the list says the government can't require you to wear a mask.
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Now are you going to come to your senses or am I going to have to fetch a vat of centipedes?
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By your logic the Constitution (there's more than just the Bill of Rights) doesn't protect your right not to be drown in a vat of centipedes either.
It does, that's a cruel and unusual punishment.
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"I said the government cannot force me to do something (like wearing a a mask). My rights "cannot be abridged""
You're wrong on both counts.
You don't have a right to go into public places without a mask. Those places are owned by government and operated under rules that let everyone use them. Those rules change situationally, and right now they've changed to require wearing of masks.
Your rights also can be abridged. It happens every day. Your right to swing your fist, for example, ends where others' bodies b
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Yes, now is the time to march into a bank with your mask on and take a selfie. Because honestly, it's going to be one of the only times in your life you'll be able to do so and no one would bat an eye.
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Are you sure it's unconstitutional? How is failing to wear a mask substantively different from screaming "fire" in a movie theater? The latter certainly isn't constitutionally-protected free speech. I don't think the former is either, but IANAL, and I don't think it's been tested in court yet (I expect it will be soon though!)
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Actually, the state governments can do this, constitutionally. They have the power to declare a temporary state of emergency and the supreme court has upheld this. The feds have little say in the matter, but they can also provide directions for their own buildings or lands as necessary. You are possibly taking a literalist approach to the constitution, picking out some lines without looking at the constitution as a whole and the amendments that came after, and the interpretation of how it all fits togeth
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Actually, the state governments can do this, constitutionally.
Where we run into problems is that legislatures are supposed to make civil and criminal law, not governors.
There may be constitutional provisions, or legislation (depending on the state), for temporary emergencies, but in many cases they haven't even been invoked for natural disasters or war.
"Worse than flu but we aren't sure how much" is highly questionable for invoking those provisions, and the longer it drags out the more questionable it gets. We're definitely not at "bring out your dead!" levels of an
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The constitutions of most states allow the governor to make *temporary* executive orders for emergencies. These can be extended through legislative approval later. At the time the constitutions were written, it was assumed important to be able to respond to emergencies without waiting for the amount of time for legistlators to come back to the capital and have a vote. That could take weeks or months. Note that the Texas legislature only has regular sessions in odd numbered years, though the governor can
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Masks are for pussies. Real men take risks. (Score:2)
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It is like the people in California that build mansions next to forest they know are going to burn down, then expect the taxpayer to fund first responders to risk their lives to save the rich people stuff. Not OK.
Headline should be “Free Masks at the Apple (Score:2)
* no purchase necessary.
Someone please post this over at Slickdeals.net too?
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Is it really so hard to just wear a mask ? (Score:2)
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People don't want to behave like sheep.
but they do love using false equivalences!
My freedom is more important than your life! (Score:2)
Well, that's the hyper-masculine American Glibertarian view, anyway.
Zoro , Lone Ranger (Score:2)
Employees in harms way... (Score:3)
.. and who is going to be be responsible for enforcing that?
Apple stores usually have one or two folks up front "greeting" / triaging customers. So, what? now they're going to put them in the position of asking folks to wear masks to get in? and what happens the first time some jerk gets angry/violent?
Someone close to me works at an Apple store doing retail and they're personally very concerned because instead of security folks or off duty cops, they're just going to stick their retail folks out in front delivering the message and that will put them at risk from the angry/violent yahoos who are going to decide that their rights are being denied by being forced to wear a mask.
We've already seen shootings, stabbings and other assault and battery at several retail establishments.... It seems to me that while the policy (no mask, no service) is a good idea, that this absolutely will have unintended consequences and put employees in harms way of "mask rage".
Not saying they shouldn't do it, but they need to have security or better yet uniformed off duty cops (extra duty) assisting with enforcement.
*makes obscene hand motion* (Score:1)
No. What we need to remember how few people we saved vs the millions of jobs and careers that were wiped way. How our economy shrunk. How life will be worse for others. How it's our children and grand-children who will still be reeling from these effects.
Good luck with that (Score:2)
Lots of "essential" stores "require" masks.
Doofuses walk around with them around their necks, over their mouths but not noses, etc.
Or the hood rats just shoot you or punch you when you tell them they have to wear one.
What about gloves?! (Score:2)
Which 25 stores are opening? (Score:1)
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