iPhoneXsMax, Now That's a Tongue Twister (om.co) 167
Veteran journalist Om Malik writes: iPhoneXsMax -- When I heard the name and saw it up on the stage, I shuddered. Apple's name for its newest, biggest iPhone made one [Microsoft employee] quip on Twitter: "And I thought we sucked at naming. #AppleEvent iPhone Xs Max September Refresh CTP1"
Microsoft and other technology companies were mocked by Apple veterans for their naming conventions. But now Apple is doing the same -- fighting hard to come up with names that are fighting Samsung, Huawei, and many others when it comes to being tongue twisters. It is pretty sad to see that a company that took pride in its ability to communicate clearly and succinctly about its products, the company that was able to name them with such elan and made them memorable, has come. iPhoneX(s)Max.
Microsoft and other technology companies were mocked by Apple veterans for their naming conventions. But now Apple is doing the same -- fighting hard to come up with names that are fighting Samsung, Huawei, and many others when it comes to being tongue twisters. It is pretty sad to see that a company that took pride in its ability to communicate clearly and succinctly about its products, the company that was able to name them with such elan and made them memorable, has come. iPhoneX(s)Max.
Indeed (Score:4, Insightful)
It has a whole zero syllables more than "Galaxy Note 9"
Great job Apple
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Ah, a measurable yard stick! Shittyness. Why didn't they measure their name?
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What is it with gay people and stringing lots of consonants together anyway?
Not that I have anything against them, I just don't get that particular fetish.
Re: Indeed (Score:2)
iPhone exmess is easy to say.
And it sounds like iPhone excess
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It's how shitty the name is.
Says the guy who has such a shitty name he won't tell us.
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Re:Indeed (Score:5, Funny)
Shit, for that much money, I think I'm even entitled to some umlauts.
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Indeed. And zero more than iPhone 6 s plus or iPhone 7 plus.
People will find the stupidest things to complain about.
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Yes, but "Galaxy Note 9" doesn't have the same ring as "iPhone excess Max". The cherry on top would be the "i'm rich" app with the little gem in the task bar.
Gluttony and Envy are strong in the ranks of technology.
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Yes, but "Galaxy Note 9" doesn't have the same ring as "Samsung Galaxy ASS 9".
FTFY.
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I am not getting the point of the article. ...
iPhone - 2
iPhone 3g - 4
iPhone 4 - 3
iPhone 5 - 3
iPhone 5s - 4
iPhone 6 - 3
iPhone 6 plus - 4
iPhone 6s - 4
iPhone 6s plus - 5
iPhone 7 - 4
iPhone 7 plus - 5
iPhone 8 - 3
iPhone 8 plus - 4
iPhone X - 3
iPhone Xs Max - 5
for the most part we just call them, "my phone" (2) or iPhone (2)
We would never just go Let me take out my iPhone Xs Max without sounding like a complete jerk.
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Now that you've spelled it, I get it. An iPhone X Plus would be an iPhone XP. This is all about Microsoft.
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While the length isn't good compared to prior iPhone branding, it's the last three syllables being a real tongue twister that's a problem, 'x' is close in pronunciation to 's',
Only if you have a severe speech impediment is "ten" close in pronunciation to 's'.
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Only if you have a severe speech impediment is "ten" close in pronunciation to 's'.
So instead of the iPhone Excess, we have the iPhone Tennis?
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Only if you have a severe speech impediment is "ten" close in pronunciation to 's'.
So instead of the iPhone Excess, we have the iPhone Tennis?
Oh my god, that is so much worse than the Samsung Galaxy ass series.
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Xs = 10 the version, s the second edition since the 3Gs first used the letter.
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Galaxy = brand name denoting Samsung's phones Note = large form factor with a pen 9 = model number; newer than 8, older than 10
Wrong.
Galaxy = the Milky Way
Note = no te (te = the virtue or power inherent in a person or thing existing in harmony with the Tao)
9 = NINE = Nine Inch Nail Extreme
So actually a totally mumbo-jumbo name that includes the admittance the device isn't in harmony with the Tao (IOW sucks).
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I came here to say this... I'm pretty sure "Xs" is in fact a dog whistle for rich people, and a nod to "excess" and gluttony. Don't be so hard on apple for calling it what it is.
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...to the Samsung Galaxy S II Epic Touch? That is an actual phone name.
Actually the name is either "Samsung Galaxy S II Epic Touch 4G" or "Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch" depending on who you ask. Unless you ask a provider, then the name of the provider in parentheses will be put behind either.
I heard (Score:2)
You think iPhone Max is bad, just wait for the (Score:2)
If anyone thinks the Max iPhone naming is bad, just wait for the iPad version. The new MaxiPad.
Pronunciation guide (Score:4, Informative)
its pronounced as "iPhone Excess" or "iPhone Excess Max".
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Except "X" here is the roman numeral. It's pronounced "iphone ten s." Too bad, because if they'd named it logically, they could have advertised "these go to eleven!"
So it really was supposed to be called Mac OS 10?
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No it's not. Watch the keynote, everyone at Apple calls it "iPhone 10 S Max".
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So I'm still unclear. Are you saying its better to pronounce it "iPhone tennis max" rather than "iPhone excess max?"
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So I'm still unclear. Are you saying its better to pronounce it "iPhone tennis max" rather than "iPhone excess max?"
You are supposed to get your dentures fixed, Mr. President.
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My iPhone Ex's live in Texas... That's why I hang my hat in Galaxy!
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Wait, are you still talking about Apple products?
Re: Stick a fork in Apple (Score:5, Insightful)
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I used Bluetooth exactly two times in the last decade, otherwise it's always disabled.
But I've used headphones every single day in the last decade.
See? Everyone can talk about their daily use of technologies.
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You forgot to mention the lack of a 1/8" (3.5mm) headphone jack.
Cut them some slack, this ain't about what the iPhone Xs Max lacks, Jack.
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When your iPad dies, check out Amazon's Fire tablets. They are of excellent quality for the price. Buy it on sale on "Amazon Prime Day" or whatever the fuck they call it.
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Look back at some of the older Macintoshes.You had Performa's, LC series, etc. You had Performa 475's, 476's that were equivalent to LC 475's, which were also Quadra 605's. Apple has had just as bad of naming schemes before. You had Power Macintoshes/Performa/Workgroup Server naming schemes....
I mean you even had the iPhone SE...
That was during the time after Steve left. When he returned he really cut down and focused the product line to a laptop and a desktop each for both user and professional.
Now they have desktops shaped like garbage cans, keyboards that break if they are dusty, and phones with ridiculous names.
fragmentation (Score:1)
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In fairness, there's still not much fragmentation among iPhones/iPads. The big difference is basically just screen resolution, and the event yesterday suggests they're pushing toward 3 sizes of the same aspect ratio. It's not even clear you need to worry much about the difference between the iPhone X and the iPhone XR, since the XR seems to be similar in size but lower resolution. Your UI elements can just be displayed at a lower resolution.
But more importantly, there's basically 1 iOS. There are 50 di
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A few years ago, the rant was against Android fragmentation. There was just one iPhone, one resolution. Well now that THAT is no longer the case, Apple has tossed it all to the wind and gone to name fragmentation... Can't wait for the iPhone Xs Max SE Plus Rose Gold Special Edition!
Oh look, its LynnwoodRooster, the smartiest pant on Slashdot. Tell me how many Galaxy S III there are. Not all Samsung Galaxy phones, just versions of the S III. Heck, not even the S III mini, just the S III.
Tennis anyone? (Score:1)
But this year, that meant calling it the iPhone XS. Never mind that XS is the abbreviation for extra small — not an adjective Apple wants for its $1,000 phones — but say “XS” out loud. In the age of smartphone addiction and devices that cost as much as some refrigerators, “iPhone Excess” may not be great for branding.
Instead, the new iPhone XS is pronounced “iPhone 10S,” or as the audience at the Apple event quickly realized, “iPhone Tennis.”
Add the new iPhone XS Max to the mix and you’ve got “iPhone Tennis Match.”
No comment on the iPhone XR. Maybe the "iPhone Tennis Rogue - Serena Williams Edition"?
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In the age of smartphone addiction and devices that cost as much as some refrigerators, “iPhone Excess” may not be great for branding.
It's perfect for branding Apple.
More important to complain about small improvement (Score:3)
The area that does disappoint me however (and I am a longtime generally happy Apple user), is that even by the incremental improvement standard set by the "s" phone releases, this one does seem a particularly timid nano-incremental improvement. Screen, camera and processing are a bit better, and I think that's about it. Nothing really fresh.
The Apple Watch v4, now that had an interesting and substantial innovation: the ECG/EKG function in a small device for general consumer use. Now that was cool and points to the future of the Apple watch becoming more and more a complete health monitor / coach.
Sadly, I didn't see anything fresh like that in the current new phones. The XR could be ok to replace my relatively old 6 Plus for price reasons, but I hope that my current phone holds out another year to see what the next generation brings.
Re: More important to complain about small improve (Score:1)
Plumage (Score:2)
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thats why i just use and iPad PRO as my cell phone, sure i had to had the pant pockets adjusted for size discrepancy, however now I don;t need to remember to bring a grocery bag with me.
Here are my questions. (Score:2)
1. How bad does Apple have to make the iPhone before people finally just stop buying so many of them?
2. When will Android manufacturers and Apple stop borrowing the worst things from eachothers designs?
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as for #2, don't underestimate the marketing wanks that need to justify their existence. their influence (and effluence) is a major building block of our society. There is big money in copying instead of innovating, spin, lies and blowing sunshine up peoples' asses
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Yes they are more expensive than, say an iPhone 5. But they are objectively better.
They have objectively higher performance. That's not necessarily better. We've just about peaked on how much performance I need in a mobile device. I'd rather have less expensive and a replaceable battery. I have a dedicated computer, separate game console - the only thing I need a phone for is decent web browsing and communication apps.
Here are my answers (Score:2)
1. How bad does Apple have to make the iPhone before people finally just stop buying so many of them?
A lot worse. Apple would really have to shit the bed with a big quality problem or security issue and even then they might still survive one bad product cycle. As long as they remain technologically competitive at a price point people are willing to pay then Apple is going to continue to sell huge numbers. They don't have to lead the pack on features and given the volumes they sell they probably couldn't. The bigger risk is that they fail to continue to improve the devices enough to convince people to "
Still better... (Score:4, Interesting)
Still better if the manufacturer has too few words to compose names and uses them ALL. Especially when looking for the firmware for *your* model...
Sony Xperia Pro
Sony Xperia Mini
Sony Xperia Mini Pro
Sony Xperia X10 Mini
Sony Xperia X10 Pro
Sony Xperia X10 Mini Pro
Xiaomi Mi 5
Xiaomi Mi 5s
Xiaomi Mi 5s Plus
Xiaomi Mi 5X
Xiaomi Redmi 5
Xiaomi Redmi 5 Plus
Xiaomi Redmi 5A
Xiaomi Note 5A
Xiaomi Redmi Note 5
Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro
Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 AI Dual Camera
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Windows 10 Long Term Servicing Channel 2018 (Score:1)
See how that works.
It's a brain teaser too (Score:2)
Why not just do it likes cars... (Score:2)
Cars seem like they have it figured out. You have model year, make and mfg. The rest of the options matter only on resale, insurance or maintenance.
I may buy a 2019 Honda Soulless Touring Elite, and I'm paying a bit because I'm buying the very latest model with the latest features, but after I buy it, it's just my Soulless. The same for my iPhone, the most important part is that it's an iPhone, that says a lot about what it is and can or can't do. The rest is just speaking to features and profile, which fo
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Cars seem like they have it figured out. You have model year, make and mfg. The rest of the options matter only on resale, insurance or maintenance.
I may buy a 2019 Honda Soulless Touring Elite, and I'm paying a bit because I'm buying the very latest model with the latest features, but after I buy it, it's just my Soulless.
Cough. Honda Civic. Sedan, Coupe, or Hatchback? LX, LX-P, EX-T, EX-L, or Touring?
Solution (Score:2)
Equation (Score:2)
xxX420SniperPhoneOneMaxXxx (Score:2)
Right, this is wildly different and much worse than a name like Xbox One X.
Slashvertisement (Score:2)
Who gives a fsck?
Ten smacks (Score:2)
It’s not hard to say "ten smacks"
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Nah the 3 phones are obviously Tennis, Tenor, and Ten smacks. (Xs, Xr, Xsmax)
Really? (Score:2)
They could just name it X2 (Score:2)
Then X3,X4,X5, zero, legends, battle network..
Why Does A Name Matter? (Score:3, Insightful)
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I find myself saying the name of my phone a whole zero times daily.
No, but I bet you you googled the damn thing before you bought it. Names convey meaning, they always have. Product names most definitely do matter in that regard.
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I have a similar viewpoint though I prefer to put "value" at the forefront as opposed to "functionality". Placing "functionality" at the forefront can put you on a wasteful upgrade schedule where you're paying a lot for "functionality" with very little added "value".
With all of that in mind, I really feel that "iPhone Excess Max" is very appropriate though "iPhone Maximum Excess" would have been even better.
What's in a name? (Score:2)
There will obviously be plays on words, as the new phones roll out. Xs = Excessively costly, etc. etc.
And admittedly it's a bit difficult spitting out "iPhone Xs Max". But what usually happens is people shorten up the names to whatever they find comfortable. Pretty sure the new iPhones will start getting called either an Xs or a "Max"?
At least with Apple, you don't have the problem of them making dozens of variations of a phone for different pre-paid carriers to sell. I can't even remember what the name
"And I thought we sucked at naming" (Score:2)
So basically, this guy admitted that Microsoft sucks at naming.
But yes, "iPhone X [s] Max" is a terrible name. Apple painted themselves into a corner by naming last year's model "iPhone X". And then they doubled down on the stupid by going with "Max" instead of "Plus" like the previous years.
What matters more, the name or the product? (Score:2)
I was thinking about this yesterday. The phone has become so ubiquitous that almost nobody thinks of their phone's model name / number. It takes me a moment to recall the specific generation / variant I own because it is so constantly referred to as just "iPhone" or "my iPhone". For any phone. The real factor remains "Android" or "iPhone", most details after that are secondary to 99% of the conversations I have about smartphones.
Perhaps the names are getting so specific because the differentiation betwe
As if the iPad names were any better (Score:2)
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Didn't you forget "The New iPad"? AFAIK it was the official name.
Apart from that, at least for a while they did follow the 1/2/3/4 naming convention. The Air thing was to differenciate between previous and newer generations and the mini/pro is/was to differenciate between sizes.
A company took pride in naming it's models? (Score:2)
Like the company that produced the iPhone smartphone without 3G at a time when 3G was being quickly adopted, that proceeded to produce the iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS shortly after, and when the world started quickly adopting 4G they produced the iPhone 4 and 4S both of which didn't have any extra GS despite claiming to be cutting edge.
Just get the $750 XR (Score:2)
Problem solved.
It also comes in cooler colors
Mangled nonsensical summary (Score:1)
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Wait at least until the end of october, where they're supposed to be presenting the new Macs.
Once they truly and properly butcher the Mac mini, then you can be done with them for good.
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Seriously? (Score:1)