Someone With an iMac, iPhone, and iPad Might Soon Need Three Different Headphone Adapters (9to5mac.com) 256
According to reliable analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, Apple's next iPad Pro will be switching from the Lightning Port to USB-C for the first time. It will also ship with a new 18W USB-C charger. 9to5Mac reports: While Kuo's memo mentions both the new iPad Pro with USB-C (wow) and MacBook with Touch ID, it's still unclear at this point if we'll see the iPad and Mac on stage at Wednesday's event, or if the September 12 date will be dedicated to iPhone and Apple Watch. That would be a massive change for an iOS device but one that could improve the iPad accessory ecosystem -- and be a boon for productivity. Kuo's memo does not suggest that this is simply a change from USB-A Lightning to USB-C Lightning but instead an actual port change on the iPad itself. Daring Fireball's John Gruber notes that if Kuo is correct, "someone with a Mac, iPhone, and iPad would need three different headphone adapters." That takes courage, Apple...
It seems like Apple wants us to ditch adapters... (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:It seems like Apple wants us to ditch adapters. (Score:5, Informative)
They want your phones to only play approved content *(for their copyright monopoly side business) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-bandwidth_Digital_Content_Protection
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Audiophiles.
Yeah but they aren't buying bluetooth.
Re:It seems like Apple wants us to ditch adapters. (Score:5, Insightful)
Who would spend more for headphones than they do on their gadgets?
Many people. Your headphones will long outlast your gadgets and superior audio quality doesn't come cheap. BTW, it's way easier to tell the difference between great and crap audio with headphones than it is with speakers. Partly because room acoustics don't come into it.
Re:It seems like Apple wants us to ditch adapters. (Score:5, Interesting)
Your headphones won't outlast your gadgets if they come with proprietary audio codecs and connectors. That's probably the idea - deprecate "old" tech to make people upgrade to get the latest Bluetooth codec.
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Don't forget the glued in battery. LiPo gets about 500 cycles, so 1.5 years of daily use.
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Yes. Designated listening position(s)*, dampening materials on the correct locations to create a close to perfect acoustic room. The door naturally have to be closed, moving around verboten as would be moving, talking or burping. Combine with very expensive speakers expertly directed to the listening position and preferably a dedicated concrete room for the sub-woofer one can get good results. And don't forget the cables! Of course real golden ears use only virgin silver, ultra-pure and cryotreated with ext
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I don't care about audio quality that much when listening on my phone because I listen as I'm walking down the street, with cars, people making noise etc.
Noise cancelling. Closed ear systems. Sound blocking plugs with drivers built-in.
There are many solutions to your problem often even with expensive headphones.
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Who comes up with this stuff? Who would spend more for headphones than they do on their gadgets?
Since when is a headphone anything other than a special purpose gadget? Also with phones topping the $1000 mark you can pretty much buy the second from the top model of headphones from any manufacturer now without incurring the wrath of your arbitrary anger.
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Yeah, because if there is anything that "just works" it's Bluetooth.
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Exactly. All three devices are perfectly compatible with Bluetooth headphones. No adapters required.
But if one insists on using wired headphones, one can simply either not update some of their stuff, or they can update all of their stuff.
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Bluetooth audio is shit unless you have at least AptX and ideally AptX HD. So there are levels of compatibility.
Bluetooth is also a pain in the arse if you need to switch devices much. Unpair, re-pair every time. You can toggle Bluetooth on and off instead, but only if you have no other Bluetooth devices.
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Bluetooth audio is shit unless you have at least AptX and ideally AptX HD. So there are levels of compatibility.
Bluetooth is also a pain in the arse if you need to switch devices much. Unpair, re-pair every time. You can toggle Bluetooth on and off instead, but only if you have no other Bluetooth devices.
The Bluetooth unit in my iPhone can handle being connected to two devices at once. I usually just leave my bluetooth earbuds connected when I get into my car, the car's bluetooth unit connects just fine and the phone switches to the new output automatically. The only caveat here is getting earbuds with at least 8 hour battery life. As for audio quality I always get a chuckle out of people that complain about Bluetooth audio quality being shit, then pull out a set of $10 chorded earbuds and go about their bu
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What if you want to pair your headphones to your phone, tablet, laptop and work PC? How are you going to switch which one they are paired to?
Keep in mind that if you switch off Bluetooth then your keyboard and mouse stop working too. Your phone won't pair to your car automatically any more and you will forget to switch back on when you get in.
You will have to unpair and repair every time. Some devices have NFC to make it less painful, but not Apple ones.
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First disconnect from whichever source device is currently connected to it.
on iPhone/iPad: Settings...Bluetooth... click the "i"... Disconnect.
on OSX: Click Bluetooth icon, click connected device... Disconnect.
Then connect whichever source you want to connect to the speaker.
Yes
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Bluetooth audio is shit .......
if I am so much of an audiophile that I can pretend that the sound quality difference between Bluetooth and a wired connection is going to significantly affect my listening enjoyment, then SURELY I'm spending a metric shitload on a good headset. If I've got THAT kind of cash, I can easily upgrade all my other hardware to ensure they all have the same connection, buy a shitload of dongles so that I don't have to give a fuck about dongles, or simply NOT upgrade my other hardware to the extent that I have a bu
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That's certainly not true. On a daily basis, I use my phone to connect to my Schuberth motorcycle helmet headset, a pair of Sennheiser headphones at my desk, and a UE Megaboom. The devices were all paired a long time ago. I can switch between these connections on my phone, at will, with no issues.
Oh yeah - and also throw into that mix the cheap-ass Bluetooth receiver that plugs into the aux port in my Jeep. The phone connects to that without re-pairing just fine too.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/prod... [amazon.com]
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Basic Bluetooth audio is bad even for non audiophiles. You really need AptX or you will notice.
About pairing, I meant pairing the device to multiple phones/tablets/computers. Instead of just switching the cable over you have to muck about with Bluetooth pairing.
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Basic Bluetooth audio is bad even for non audiophiles. You really need AptX or you will notice.
So get AptX. What's the problem?
About pairing, I meant pairing the device to multiple phones/tablets/computers. Instead of just switching the cable over you have to muck about with Bluetooth pairing.
I see. Well, depends on the device I guess. Some of the devices I have easily pair with at least two devices. But even so....then use a dongle. I just don't see what the big deal about it is. Then again, I don't remember the last time I used wired headphones either.
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I gotta tell ya, someone hacking into my Bluetooth connection is about as worrisome to me me as catching my dick in Christy Brinkley's pants zipper.
Re:It seems like Apple wants us to ditch adapters. (Score:4, Interesting)
TBH I'm not sure that's a bad idea.
Anyone who thinks this is as good idea doesn't have kids who regularly lose, break, and launder small items.
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The main problem with Bluetooth is latency. If you're watching a TV show or something, the latency with some Bluetooth hardware is enough to be vomit-inducing, because the audio lags so far behind the video. Until Apple figures out how to get their Bluetooth stack to accurately report latency all the way up the stack to apps, Bluetooth will continue to suck.
Compounding this is the fact that Bluetooth isn't one standard, but rather a pile of competing standards. Android devices typically support aptX fro
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...and go with Bluetooth instead. TBH I'm not sure that's a bad idea.
Bluetooth, while getting better, isn't as good as wired when it comes to sound quality. Plus there is the cost.
I keep asking whether Bluetooth will ever be able to achieve CD audio quality? I keep coming up with "No" as the answer due to the technology limitations. I would love to be able to just set my phone in the car, automatically connect wireless, and get the same quality that I get with a direct connection. But it sounds worse than satellite radio...
So, yeah, multiple wired adapters for different
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...and go with Bluetooth instead. TBH I'm not sure that's a bad idea.
It is, but go ahead and pay more for an inferior product. That's what apple really wants.
Headphone or iphone. (Score:2)
Apple wants you to ditch either headphones or iphones.
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Re:It seems like Apple wants us to ditch adapters. (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re: It seems like Apple wants us to ditch adapters (Score:5, Insightful)
I am a licensed amateur radio operator -- extra class. Radiation doesn't have to be ionizing (as in gamma rays and X-rays) to be harmful. Run-of-the-mill EMR (electromagnetic radiation) can cause all kinds of problems.
If you disagree, please hack your microwave so that it operates with the door open and stand six feet away from it while it's running at full power. It's not ionizing radiation, so what can it hurt, right?
Having a small, low-power EMR transmitter continually broadcasting from the same spot on your head is not too smart, as well.
Folks, never trust Apple fan boys when they try to argue technical matters, especially if such matters involve health consequences.
Re: It seems like Apple wants us to ditch adapters (Score:5, Insightful)
> If you disagree, please hack your microwave so that it operates with the door open and stand six feet away from it while it's running at full power. It's not ionizing radiation, so what can it hurt, right?
You must have missed the other part of the post you're responding to:
>> It's non ionizing radiation and its down in mW. (emphasis mine)
It won't cause damage by ionisation, and it won't cause damage by excessive heating. The only way a bluetooth radio will cause you any harm is when pointed at you and accelerated to sufficient velocity. Oh, don't get me wrong, I find Apple's decision to remove a time-tested and universal connector utterly fucking idiotic and I'd never use any of their stuff, but you're barking up the wrong tree here.
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Folks, never trust Apple fan boys when they try to argue technical matters, especially if such matters involve health consequences.
You were doing great, right up until here. Why the typical "Apple fan boy" bash? It adds absolutely nothing to your point, furthermore, it's not even clear if the OP even is an Apple fan boy.
To your point about microwaves; I'd expect a 1,200W bluetooth headset to cause all sorts of damage, ionizing or not.
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inverse square, not inverse cubic.
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Please cite credible research that Bluetooth causes tumors.
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This has been Apple's goal [slashdot.org] from the very start:
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another set of batteries to deal with
I agree with almost everything you say, but the chance that these electro-tchotchkes have batteries that a user can replace is almost, but not quite, zero.
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Re: It seems like Apple wants us to ditch adapters (Score:4, Funny)
You should try a 21st century bluetooth headset one day. Luddite.
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You should try having all your little typing fingers smashed with a 3 pound steel hammer.
Insulting people you don't know could win you that prize.
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So new Bluetoothâ(TM) headsets are magical? That's not my experience, they are still generally crap for general purpose audio. They work to some degree* sucking battery power and increasing latency to provide sub-optimal audio quality.
(* still not well. High-end Bluetooth headphone couldn't connect to multiple devices each supporting required or better specifications (audio codecs that were of course proprietary, base Bluetooth version, OS supporting Bluetooth and Bluetooth audio as verified with mono
Re: It seems like Apple wants us to ditch adapter (Score:2)
Samsung phones are even IP68 which better than IP67 which means the water resistance should be better.
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In those cases the water/dust resistance is only when those ports aren't in use.
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Two adapters? (Score:2, Informative)
Macbooks still have headphone ports, don't need three adapters. Someone can't count.
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They mean Macs would have a headphone port, iPhones would need a lightning adaptor and iPads would need a USB-C adaptor. Of course, since all Macbooks also come with USB-C you're still down to two pairs of headphones. But Apple Haters gotta hate.
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Yes, but the meaning can be completely from the context.
If only (Score:5, Funny)
If only there were a standard headphone connector that worked everywhere. Some standard that had already been used and refined over time. Something simple. Something that was robust. Something that already had wide spread adoption.
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Like the floppy drive?
Or maybe the optical drive.
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iPhone isn't a standard though - they aren't supported by 3.5mm jacks.
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There are many PS/2 software stacks that recognize hot-plugging, but it's a hack and can kill some PS/2 type connectors/controllers.
"I hardly even know her!" (Score:2, Offtopic)
Am I the only one that thinks, "Someone with an iMac, iPhone, and iPad..." sounds like the beginning of a bartender joke?
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Am I the only one that thinks, "Someone with an iMac, iPhone, and iPad..." sounds like the beginning of a bartender joke?
Maybe? I was just thinking "wanker".
Adapters !!! (Score:2)
but it's a funny joke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
Macbook Adapter??? (Score:2)
What Macbook requires a headphone adapter?
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Re:What's the point? (Score:5, Interesting)
Android owners voted Google's Pixel off the island mainly because of the price but also partly because of the lack of headphone jack. Samsung was smart enough to notice the blowback and include it for S9. Apple relies on mind control instead, which is apparently not too hard for the kind of fan they attract, so a bunch of them will gloss over that deficiency and put a pair of overpriced Beats phones on their credit card, most probably near its melting point. Life with Apple. Life with a pocketful of dongles.
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Android owners voted Google's Pixel off the island mainly because of the price but also partly because of the lack of headphone jack. Samsung was smart enough to notice the blowback and include it for S9. Apple relies on mind control instead, which is apparently not too hard for the kind of fan they attract, so a bunch of them will gloss over that deficiency and put a pair of overpriced Beats phones on their credit card, most probably near its melting point. Life with Apple. Life with a pocketful of dongles.
Offtopic? More like, Apple employee with mod points, off their meds.
iMac power supply (Score:2)
Not quite accurate... (Score:2)
Corrected headline should read:
"Someone With an iMac, iPhone, iPad AND WIRED HEADPHONES Might Soon Need Three Different Headphone Adapters"
How many people is that anymore?
I have had headphone adaptors since the iPhone 7 that I have only used once, and that was shortly after I got the first phone that dropped the jack - since that time I have not used them at all. I moved on to Bluetooth headphones.
But all of this assumes that the new iPad will use USB-C. I'm mixed on that, on the one hand I would rather l
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"Someone With an iMac, iPhone, iPad AND WIRED HEADPHONES Might Soon Need Three Different Headphone Adapters"
You're almost there... they have to have wired headphones, and want to attach them with a wire. There's plenty of wire to bluetooth converters out there. That's one converter to keep the same headphones.
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I think anyone with a brain uses a wired headphone, a 20 hour battery life on wireless is wasteful and polluting too
Obligatory Samsung Ad (Score:2)
But they make the coolest adapters! [youtube.com]
Obligatory Hatorade Distortion Field (Score:2)
Yeah, because Samsung hasn't changed the charging plug at all over the last fifteen years that they use with their phones. And Apple wasn't the first to drop the 3.5 jack, nor were they the last.
TWO adapters, not three. (Score:2)
"someone with a Mac, iPhone, and iPad would need three different headphone adapters."
That is incorrect. They would need a set of headphones with a normal 3.5 jack (Mac), and two adapters (iPhone, iPad).
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"someone with a Mac, iPhone, and iPad would need three different headphone adapters."
That is incorrect. They would need a set of headphones with a normal 3.5 jack (Mac), and two adapters (iPhone, iPad).
Much better.
It just works. (Score:3)
Oh wait, it doesn't.
It is amazing how Apple is squandering their design lead that Jobs left them.
Perhaps it is just my opinion, but I think that this obsession with adapters is going to be the end of them.
I don't know how you admit that "courage" was wrong and add the 3.5 mm jack back in, but they need to find a way. Maybe "courage" will work for that design reversion too.
USB-C might be at the charger. (Score:2)
All these comments already... (Score:2)
...and no one thought to point out that iPads have headphone jacks, making all of this moot? That quote about needing three adapters was based on what would happen if Apple were to remove the headphone jack from the iPad, but that’s not how things are now. But hey, you won’t get an outcry from that, let’s omit the preceding line from the quote so that we can take it out of context and stir up a tempest in a teacup.
What was actually said was:
But if the rumors are true that this year’s iPad Pros don’t have headphone jacks, this doesn’t make much sense at all. This would mean someone with a Mac, iPhone, and iPad would need three different headphone adapters.
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"Courage."
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One pair of Bluetooth headphones, there, problem solved.
and different problems introduced.
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Kinda. Good noise-cancelling headphones (mine are B&O, have also used Bose and it's a similar story) come with Bluetooth, 3.5mm, USB (for both audio and charging), and airplane adapters.
Mind you, never use them while commuting. On public transport, good ol' $10 earbuds are far superior.
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Mind you, never use them while commuting. On public transport, good ol' $10 earbuds are far superior.
Yeah because when in an environment with noise a far better solution is to blast your ears to hell trying to drown out the background with nasty garbage and leave your good sounding noise cancelling headphones at home.
Man I normally say this in jest, but in this case you literally are doing it wrong.
Do yourself a favour, get some nice sounding headphones, keep the B&Os for commutes, and throw the $10 earbuds in the bin and then set the bin on fire for good measure.
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One pair of Bluetooth headphones, there, problem solved.
and different problems introduced.
Yeah, plugging in a pair of Bluetooth headphones at the end of the day ... what an unbearable burden.
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One pair of Bluetooth headphones, there, problem solved.
and different problems introduced.
Yeah, plugging in a pair of Bluetooth headphones at the end of the day ... what an unbearable burden.
What about when they die mid trip? Or you want to watch a video and the audio is out of sync because your headphones have a bunch of signal processing to do?
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... or when they keep cutting out because you’re in an area where that happens all the bloody time for any number of reasons?
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One Android phone with headphone jack, there, problem solved.
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You should try having some empathy for other humans, instead of being so self-absorbed.
Empathy for the suffering they entail charging their much more convenient headphones?
You spelled less wrong.
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As long as Apple's stock price continues to rise, they could market shit sandwiches as far as I am concerned.
Eat up!!
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and don't need to be separately powered
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What is this 2004? You can always count on slashdot for shitty boomer opinions.
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You should watch what you type, because if you don't some day you might accidentally say something in meat space that wins you a broken jaw.
Man, you seem super tough and manly.
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Windows sucks infinitely more now than in the Windows 7 days to the point of being unusuable spyware out of the box.
Not really no. but medium tier attempt at bait.
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Price, audio quality*, latency**, battery life, battery efficiency compared to wired headphones, selection of headphones etc. Lot to detest for the wise, but wires can be a PITA sometimes I admit.
(* playing music on many software/hardware combinations: lossy compressed audio -> decompression -> PCM audio -> lossy compression -> wireless transfer -> decompression -> PCM audio -> DAC/amplifier -> physical transducers. Observe that the two types of compression used are often using diffe
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It is so simple that hipster cannot fathom it!
The answer is not apple, it's so simple everyone who isn't an idiot can see it.