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Apple Is Building An Online Portal For Police To Make Data Requests (cnet.com) 75

In a letter last Tuesday to Rhode Island Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, Apple said it is working on an online portal for law enforcement officials to submit and track requests for data and obtain responses from the company. Apple also said it's "creating a dedicated team to help train law enforcement officials around the world in digital forensics," reports CNET. From the report: The letter, seen by CNET, addresses recommendations made in a report issued earlier this year by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) regarding cybersecurity and the "digital evidence needs" of law enforcement agencies. Apple said in the letter that it's eager to adopt the report's recommendations, including making upgrades to its law enforcement training program. This includes developing an online training module for police that mirrors Apple's current in-person training, according to the letter and to details on the company's website.

"This will assist Apple in training a larger number of law enforcement agencies and officers globally, and ensure that our company's information and guidance can be updated to reflect the rapidly changing data landscape," the site says. Apple also reiterated in the letter that it's "committed to protecting the security and privacy of our users" and that company initiatives and "the work we do to assist investigations uphold this fundamental commitment."

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Apple Is Building An Online Portal For Police To Make Data Requests

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  • by HotNeedleOfInquiry ( 598897 ) on Sunday September 09, 2018 @03:47PM (#57280870)
    I mean, seriously, have we not learned anything about the government's, or any government's ability to abuse their power?
    • I mean, seriously, have we not learned anything about the government's, or any government's ability to abuse their power?

      You're right! Currently there's no WAY to get information from a huge service provider in any way that could originate with an improper request or someone up to no good.

    • by AHuxley ( 892839 )
      Police get the PRISM v 2.0 keys. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
    • My knee-jerk response is: Obviously not.

      OTOH, just from reading the summary this makes sense for Apple - as if they didn't already have a team dealing with law enforcement. They're just streamlining the process of handling law enforcement requests from what I can tell. So when Barney Fife calls them up and asks to unlock an iPhone they can direct him to a website where they can tell him they can't unlock that iPhone.

      I don't think Apple has just decided to roll over and give law enforcement anything they w

  • So if I manage to hack po-dunk police force's systems, I can data straight from Apple?

    • by antdude ( 79039 )

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    • Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • by Tutter ( 1776674 ) on Sunday September 09, 2018 @04:19PM (#57280988)
    Most other SNPs have web portals for LE requests, this is to streamline it for Apple and for LE. The web portal doesn't give the requester the information, so no fear there, it serves a different purpose. In order to get the user data, judicial authorization still has to be provided and once they have that, it will be forwarded to the requesting Agency / Officer.
    The potential to abuse X is persistent - it always exists. The risks to protect the public and aid LE with investigations outweighs any privacy concern... ultimately, it's pretty simple - if you didn't do anything, LE won't bother with your data as they have enough on the go with actual investigations. If you did do something and they have judicial authorization, then they should get to your data.
    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      We live in an unveiled, -ing police state, this is another brick in the wall. We already have open piracy on the roads, murders for asset siezure, and gross propaganda 24x7.

      Too bad you can't ask the dead Jews of Germany for their opinion.

      Any persecuted minority (or majority) will be more vulernable.

      ...and Apple is rotten to the corp.
    • by Miles_O'Toole ( 5152533 ) on Monday September 10, 2018 @04:37AM (#57282976)

      ...ultimately, it's pretty simple - if you didn't do anything, LE won't bother with your data as they have enough on the go with actual investigations.

      People who use this canard as a justification for wholesale, casual invasion of citizens' privacy should be pissed on from a height.

      To a cop, president, well-connected church leader or even whole government, "If you didn't do anything" often means, "If you protest", "If your sexuality doesn't match what I say it should be", "If your skin is the wrong colour" or a dozen other alleged threats to the public good.

      People who don't understand this are either hopelessly naive or members of the power structure. They almost certainly have something to gain by persuading people the privacy of a free citizen in a free country to go about their legal business without being targeted in one way or another by the government has no value. In fact it is the cornerstone of a free society.

      Sometimes freedom has a cost. In today's world, that cost is more often paid by civilians than by police or the military. Accept this, or accept that you do not deserve to be free.

    • The risks to protect the public and aid LE with investigations outweighs any privacy concern...

      When did we all agree on this? I don't remember getting to vote on it.

  • ... particularly with the current president and his repeatedly-stated intention to abuse law enforcement as a tool with which to attack his political enemies. I wonder why Tim Cook flip-flopped and gave in to the thuggery.

    • Wait. I must be missing something. Where did you think the police, NSA, etc get their data from? Did you think they were cracking encrypted traffic? You guys are so naive. They are getting the data from the endpoints (the big tech companies).
  • INB4 a link to Goatse Guy.

  • Just have them telnet into that.
  • I would like to suggest a system for Apple to implement. It would consist of a series of standardized steps to ensure police forces get all the help they deserve as they try to turn enterprises built and paid for by others to their own ends.

    Completion of each stage of the process would initiate the start of the next, ensuring a seamless, orderly progression which would service the police most efficiently. These steps in the system I'm proposing, in order, would start with " B egin ", when the basic contact information from the requesting police officer is accepted, recorded and verified. Next would be " L earn ", which would include an extremely lengthy, comprehensive questionnaire allowing the officer to define the force's needs and expectations. When this questionnaire has been successfully completed, reviewed and verified, the next step, " O ffer " would be initiated. This is when the company would tell the police force what it was able to do to accommodate its needs. Then would come " W ork ", when the actual process of informing customers that the police needed some of their private information would commence, and the company would assemble all the data the thankful citizens provided.

    After a pause to ensure all relevant information had been provided, the next phase, " M anage " would commence. This would consist of another lengthy questionnaire to be filled out by the police, when they would let the company know whether their needs had been met. If not, at this point an actual live interaction between a company official and a police representative might have to occur. Police expectations could be managed and redefined to ensure that they are reasonable and achievable within a democratic context. Finally there would be " E xit ", when the police force representative would fill out another questionnaire that would allow the company to judge its effectiveness at meeting the needs of the government's information-gathering initiatives.

    For efficiency, and to let various security agencies know what they should expect, the first initial of each step of my process would form the acronym introducing the portal.

  • by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Monday September 10, 2018 @05:44AM (#57283062)
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  • Training programs for LEOs is a proven failed endeavor. They can't even figure out that a diabetic blowing a 3+% BAC (in the coma / death range) on a breathalizer while telling them they are sober is in fact a diabetic and that is a thing with ketone levels.

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