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Apple May Include Support For a Second SIM Card in New iPhones (engadget.com) 87

Could Apple be planning on support for dual SIM cards with the new iPhone? It's possible. From a report: 9to5Mac was taking iOS 12 developer beta 5 out for a test drive and noticed something interesting in diagnostic report generation. There are clearly references to a "second SIM status." iPhones currently support eSIMs along with normal SIMs, so this could be nothing. But the diagnostic report also references "second SIM tray status," which signals that Apple could be planning on including support for a second physical SIM card with new iPhones.
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Apple May Include Support For a Second SIM Card in New iPhones

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  • But I thought... (Score:2, Flamebait)

    by reanjr ( 588767 )

    Expensive phones don't have dual SIMs because people who travel and need dual SIMs just buy a secondary phone.

    Traveling internationally, isn't it better to just use a burner anyway?

    Not sure of the target demo...

    • by amorsen ( 7485 ) <benny+slashdot@amorsen.dk> on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @10:13AM (#57040880)

      It isn't for travelling. It's for having a work account and a private account without having to deal with two phones.

      Dual SIM is a must-have.

      The S9 is available in dual-SIM by the way, and it isn't exactly dirt cheap.

      • Wait. So they have enough space to add a second SIM slot for the small percentage of people who have to keep their work phone separate from their personal phone. But they don't have enough space for a headphone jack for the large percentage of people who'd rather plug in than go wireless?
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    • There is a far better reason for a dual-sim phone: Private + work sims.

      I don't want to hand out my private phone number at work. My boss has it for emergencies, and he's fortunately responsible enough to treat it as such. But I have to have a work phone. So what do I have? Two phones that offer no benefit over a single phone with two SIMs.

      Essentially, that would be the first actually useful feature in an iPhone in a long, long time.

      • Re:But I thought... (Score:4, Interesting)

        by drinkypoo ( 153816 ) <drink@hyperlogos.org> on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @10:43AM (#57041096) Homepage Journal

        There is a far better reason for a dual-sim phone: Private + work sims.

        That's not a good reason. You should have wholly separate phones. Yeah, nobody wants to do that. But it's necessary from a security standpoint. Work should not permit your personal phone on their network, and they should not allow you to install your choice of apps on your work phone. If they have any other policy, they're asking for trouble.

        So what do I have? Two phones that offer no benefit over a single phone with two SIMs.

        Compartmentalization is a tangible benefit.

        • Why would I use a phone to access the work network? I have a laptop. Complete with a keyboard you can actually use without the growing urge to hurl the device into the next wall.

    • I bought a pocket wifi hotspot for traveling.
      A second phone is a no go, why should I spent another $500 or more for another smartphone?
      I won't buy another iPhone unless it is dual SIM.
      My old iPhone 4S is just fine, has a new battery since 6 month, too.

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    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @10:09AM (#57040858)
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    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Excelcia ( 906188 )

      How about using the space for the useless second sim card for a real headphone jack?

      There was a business report on Apple talking about the slowdown with their phones, and how Apple was smart and foresaw that and pushed harder for their online streaming revenues. Nice. People are getting tired of their hardware, and they know it.

      In reality, though, little gimmicks like this aren't intended to actually entice users - it's just intended to keep them in the news. It's advertising.

      • or a microSD slot
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      • People are getting tired of their hardware, and they know it.

        Yeah, they're really getting tired, alright.

        Liar.

        https://bgr.com/2018/07/25/app... [bgr.com]

      • How about using the space for the useless second sim card for a real headphone jack?

        There was a business report on Apple talking about the slowdown with their phones, and how Apple was smart and foresaw that and pushed harder for their online streaming revenues. Nice. People are getting tired of their hardware, and they know it.

        In reality, though, little gimmicks like this aren't intended to actually entice users - it's just intended to keep them in the news. It's advertising.

        This is getting spooky! Every time anybody starts a discussion about mobile phones, irrespective of topic, an audiophile appears in a puff of smoke and starts complaining in a high pitched whiny tone of voice about missing the missing headphone jack.

      • I would be pretty surprised if Apple offered a 2nd SIM via an actual SIM tray. Likely the tray will still be one SIM, whilst the 2nd SIM will be an embedded SIM with OTA provisioning.
        Apple has pushing PTCRB to accept embedded SIMs only for years and they were heavily involved in the steering groups and standards committees for embedded SIMs. I doubt they did that just for fun.

    • If the feature is displayed in a stage with a nice showman, of course, yes! "Now let me talk about this amazing new feature... the dual sim support!"
    • Endless stories about Apple supporting features everyone else has offered for years....are Apple customers ever pleasantly surprised?

      Yes they are.

      Everytime they use their iPhone and iPad, and everytime they use their Mac.

    • Endless stories about Apple supporting features everyone else has offered for years....are Apple customers ever pleasantly surprised?

      The Apple of yesteryear would take the dual SIM functionality (that everyone else has) and then add a couple of additional features (that no-one has) which would make the experience far better.

      However, having seen what little effort they put into resolving the issues with notifications (they just basically copied the bare minimum from Google), I'm not convinced that they are o

    • by tsa ( 15680 )

      We haven't been simce Steve died.

  • by Anonymous Coward
    Most iPhone users are into dual penetration, why not dual sims?
  • one for PRISM?
  • What I'd want to see:

    * For sale at stores in North America
    * Works on all carriers.
    * Optional isolation between the two SIM cards.

    What it will probably be:

    * For "emerging markets" only. (You can import it, though.)
    * GSM Only.
    * Paid app for isolation. (Available six months after release, integrated in the next major version of iOS.)

    Part of me hopes that Apple does their usual "take something that exists and up the game," but if I keep expectations low I won't be disappointed when it's the same as every other

  • ATT used to change $15-$20 a meg for roaming just think if the iphone was still att only.

  • Since they apparently have room to spare, I'd much rather have a MicroSD slot than a second SIM slot.

  • But still no room for an SD card? Hmm...
  • I get some people don't care for 2 SIM cards.

    I'm one of them, I know what I'd prefer.

    Idiots.

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