Apple's New iOS File Manager Coming This Fall As Part of iOS 11 (arstechnica.com) 63
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: Apple announced the new file manager today. A demo showed that the application will provide access to local files and files in cloud storage services such as Dropbox, iCloud Drive, and Box. It will support nested folders, favorites, search, tags, and a list view in which files can be sorted by size and date. You'll also be able to drag and drop with other applications, for example by dragging an attachment from e-mail into the file manager. The new manager will be part of iOS 11, shipping this fall.
We all know WWDC was today (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:We all know WWDC was today (Score:5, Funny)
It was either irritate you, or irritate the "old news, this was already reported at xyz.com over 8 hours ago" guy, and it's your turn this week.
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Hows about next year saving up all the action and dropping one article at the end of the day? Mmmkay?
Hey, man, I don't use Apple gear anymore, but WWDC is once a year, and I know how to scroll past stuff I'm not interested in.
I'll never understand why some people feel compelled to open every article posted. OCD is treatable, m'kay?
Re:This is a big deal? (Score:4, Informative)
It's another great innovation that makes the latest iPhone as sophisticated as Android were 5 years ago.
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And as sophisticated as most computers have been for longer than most of us have been alive.
Re:This is a big deal? (Score:4, Insightful)
It reminds me of that exciting new feature in Oracle 12c (provided that you pay for an extra license): having multiple databases per Oracle instance. And, believe it or not, you can even attach/detach them!
Of course that feature was already available in SQL Server before it got acquired by Microsoft in 1993, but when Oracle "invented" it in 2013 it became The First Database Designed for the Cloud.
https://blogs.oracle.com/multi... [oracle.com]
Hopefully History will disregard the hype and remember both of those companies (Oracle and Apple) as what they truly are: marketing companies that also happen to do below-average tech products.
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I've worked with both for the better part of 20 years, and until recently the only reason I saw to choose Oracle over SQL Server would have been the O/S. But see, now SQL Server runs on Linux, so Oracle is basically obsolete, like Informix or Image. As for scaling, you probably missed that boat too but now there's new kids on the block for massive scale and Oracle is not on the radar. Even SQL Server powers more large scale websites (ex: Best Buy).
Oracle is not just obscenely expensive and feature-poor comp
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You are an 8th grader. Oracle is not meant to run your website. There are no new kids on the block for ACID databases. You are confusing a database with a key-value store. Whatever it is you do, you are not a DBA. Me - I do storage. You know - those big storage arrays that the PB-sized 4-node active/active Oracle RAC has been sitting on for a decade running your whole company and the analytics for it.
The fact that the first example you jumped to is a website - yeah, don't use Oracle for a website. Yo
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Whatever it is you do, you are not a DBA.
Correct. We get discount visa workers for grunt work.
select * from phail (Score:2)
If you're saying that a DBA "architects" payroll, billing/payables and ordering systems, then either you work for your mom's used furniture store, or you're completely full of shit. All major enterprise software packages come with very specific requirements for the database layer; the only "architecting" a DBA would do in that context is pointing at one of the 2 supported database products, then tell the SAN guy how big the LUN has to be - and usually the company will bring in someone else to do that.
As for
Re:This is a big deal? (Score:4, Interesting)
i've never been a big fan of Samsung, always liked the Nexus or Moto better. But I bought a Tab S2 a few months ago and it's an amazing device, so I also bought a Samsung S8 phone recently and this is truly a masterpiece. I use the Google keyboard instead of the Samsung one, but apart from that all the built-in apps are top notch. The display is terrific and battery life is great (2 days).
I've used an iPhone for work and I owned several iPod Touch; I also owned an iPad Mini 4. And I don't miss those; they're not even in the same league as those Samsung devices.
The magic is not just in the performance, it's in the details. Such as creating a "safe zone" with the GPS where the phone never locks, or having that superb always-on display, or the iris scan unlock. They really think about making things convenient for the user, something Apple has lost touch with a long time ago as they switched their focus on milking their shrinking user base.
simple,they didn't need it then, they need it now. (Score:3, Insightful)
The big deal is how the apple apologists will spin this as we all have been told for years apple doesn't need a file manager.
They're good at dealing with cognitive dissonance.
If you remember, the fanbois used to make fun of the big screens on the Samsung phones, saying that the iPhone was the "right" size. Then the big iPhone 6 came out and suddenly big screens were cool.
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I know surely dozens, perhaps a hundred Mac and iDevice users.
Never met a fanboi, though.
Is that an american specimen?
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Here, get educated courtesy of the Oatmeal [theoatmeal.com].
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Then the iPhone SE came out and people realized big screens were not cool, they only bought phones with big screens because they had the nicest hardware. (Until the SE, every phone sub 4" screen was compromised in not nice ways).
The iPhone SE was something that took Apple for surprise - everyone was telling Apple they wanted huge screens and iPhones sucked because they lacked a big screen. So Apple followed what the market said and released b
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I don't own any iDevices so not sure if such functionality is a big deal or not.
It is if you like what Microsoft has done with Surface Pro. Now the iPad an Surface Pro will be on a more level playing field in terms of features.
Personally, I'm fine without it but some folks hate not having FS access from their device and need to sort / manage their files.
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sad (Score:2)
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Re: sad (Score:1)
Drag and Drop? (Score:4, Funny)
Holy shit that's amazing. First iPhone gets cut and paste, and now a drag and drop file manager, it's like 1984 all over again.
Hello, Macintosh Finder (Score:3)
The depressing thing is thinking back to how many Millennials have never used a Spatial Finder [arstechnica.com] at all... like ever.
*sigh* They probably don't remember Sad Mac icons either :(
Yes, get off my lawn.
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They suck.
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Saint Jobs said people had better things to do than tidy up their desktop. So no file manager for youuuu...
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API's ? for owncloud etc (Score:2)
I hope the api is open so that people can build their own in... something like ownCloud ?
webdav can be useful and caching would be great... conflict resolution with dropbox/icloud/box is going to be fun...
anyone seen the API ?
thanks
John Jones
YAY! (Score:2)
Not that I don't love my iPad Pro; I do, but... come on, Apple, your whole excuse for not giving us a file manager from the very start was security. I suppose you don't care about that anymore? That, or that excuse was a load of crap (yup) and you figured out a way to provide a file manager
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And only 10 major versions late! (Score:2)
Apple is ridiculous. Who else would introduce basic functionality ten years late and call it innovation?
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It's not innovation, it's giving in to people.
IIRC they said ages ago that people struggle as soon as they hit a file manager.
So, being simpler, the iPad was something even grandma could use.
But in the subsequent years, nobody invented anything better, and we're all still emailing round attachments like it's 1992.
And services like DropBox are becoming their own ecosystem.
So damn it, chuck in a file manager and move on.
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When I first got an iPhone, I went nuts looking for the file manager. The idea that there wouldn't be one never crossed my mind. When I found out that I'd have to jailbreak it to get one I was dumbfounded. It was like I was dealing with a car with forward and back buttons instead of pedals and a s
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Seriously, they only thought to do this now?
Apple is ridiculous. Who else would introduce basic functionality ten years late and call it innovation?
No, it's courage.
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Finally! (Score:3)
I've had an iPad for years. It boots fast, it's portable, and less hassle than my laptop. Yet, when I want to do anything, I fire up the laptop. Of the shortcomings of the tablet, the lack of a file system was the biggest.
How about we get with the 80's (Score:1)
Not so fast (Score:2)
Everyone is freaking out about how they're so late to the party, what about security, etc etc, but lets hold on a sec.
Has anyone *actually* see this tool in operation? Does it *actually* expose the local file system, or does it just display files from applications that tie into some "File Manager" API?
I'm going to reserve judgement until I've actually seen this thing in action.
Also, I just want to say that anyone making fun of Apple's previous refusal to make the raw file system accessible to users, has cl
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It makes me think of the Atari ST. (I don't know about original and black and white Macs as those were more of a rarity)
The primary or even only way to interact with it was the file system, which was very simple : icon for the A drive on the desktop, double-click it, a window opens with an icon for each file. Only other way to do things was the top menu bar, "stolen" from Macintosh.
But as the entire OS and GUI are in ROM, the file manager only dealt with user files and external programs stored on floppies.