Apple/Samsung Patent Case Returns To Court To Revisit Infringement Damages (macrumors.com) 84
An anonymous reader quotes MacRumors:
The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit on Thursday reopened a longstanding patent lawsuit related to Samsung copying the design of the iPhone nearly six years ago...according to court documents filed electronically this week... Apple's damages were calculated based on Samsung's entire profit from the sale of its infringing Galaxy smartphones, but the Supreme Court ruled it did not have enough info to say whether the amount should be based on the total device, or rather individual components such as the front bezel or the screen. It will now be up to the appeals court to decide.
Apple last month said the lawsuit, ongoing since 2011, has always been about Samsung's "blatant copying" of its ideas, adding that it remains optimistic that the U.S. Court of Appeals will "again send a powerful signal that stealing isn't right."
Apple last month said the lawsuit, ongoing since 2011, has always been about Samsung's "blatant copying" of its ideas, adding that it remains optimistic that the U.S. Court of Appeals will "again send a powerful signal that stealing isn't right."
Re:The damages weren't enough (Score:5, Insightful)
Since Jobs was inspired to the rounded rectangle design when he saw a street sign, shouldn't they be paying the DOT?
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If that were true, then why did Apple have to fake images of a Samsung phone to look like the iPhone?
They didn't so they didn't.
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WTF are you talking about. The iPhone was a copy of the LG Prada with a few differences
A phone that was officially announced a week after the iPhone. And was immediately called an iPhone copy. . To be fair - they actually didn't look that much alike. As for the differences: One was an overpriced, underpowered fashion accessory, the other one the iPhone.
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One was an overpriced, underpowered fashion accessory, the other one the iPhone.
So they were the same after-all.
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If it came one week later, it definitely wasn't a copy. It takes a lot longer than a week to design a smartphone.
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Gee, bevels in glass so it doesn't have the sharp edges. Corners on rectangles to they don't poke you when in your pocket. Total obvious garbage.
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It was a 'design patent'. Not something about technology or production, but rather about looks
IOW something that can be very easily be avoided to violate. Thanks for confirming Samsung is guilty as hell.
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What a completely idiotic troll. Apple phones have been looking more and more like Androids every generation, why is that?
Because it's actually the other way around.
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It was a 'design patent'. Not something about technology or production, but rather about looks....the entire concept is total B.S. Gee, bevels in glass so it doesn't have the sharp edges. Corners on rectangles to they don't poke you when in your pocket. Total obvious garbage.
The 1990's Nokia cell phones had beveled edges, should no one have ever been allowed to have a beveled edge on a phone afterward? Phones have certain functionality constraints that limit design possibilities which I think should be considered. I appreciate the patent and copyright systems to protect inventors, artists, and entrepreneurs, but we all know they are imperfect systems. IMHO, this Apple vs Samsung case has been counter to the spirit of the system and this saga should have ended long ago [I unders
Violence: Profitable for the conficted & ignor (Score:1, Offtopic)
In MURICA, violence is a way for highly conflicted, not-smart people to get rich. Bush and Cheney started a war that was profitable for them: House of Bush, House of Saud [amazon.com], by Craig Unger.
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And Hillary and Obama destabilized Syria so they could build a pipline.
Why would one destabilize a country to build anything? You are confusing the theme of your conspiracy theory: they supposedly did it to stop a pipeline.But I wonder how they managed to create the drought at the heart of the destabilization- back when Dubya was still PotUS. . Or how they forced Assad to gas his people.
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I don't know, let me know when you come across a fascist police state.
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Think of Samsung being the knock off Rolex watch of cellphones.
Since when is the superior product a "Knock off"?
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Think of Samsung being the knock off Rolex watch of cellphones.
Since when is the superior product a "Knock off"?
Exactly. And that's why Samsung makes "Knock offs" - thanks for the confirmation.
Background information (Score:1, Interesting)
This story won't make much sense to younger Slashdotters without a history lesson. Years ago Apple's CEO was a guy called Steve Jobs, and under his management they used to have ideas worth copying. Also at that time Samsung made phones that were successful as communication devices rather than as incendiaries. Now go back and read the summary and hopefully it'll make more sense to you.
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Oh ya, and the Jobs guy was a narcissistic a-hole that thought is was ok for him to steal ideas from others but went off in a rage when other dared use his. He was the villain of this story.
What about what Apple stole? (Score:5, Insightful)
Finger scrolling on a touchscreen --- Stolen from IBM, US Patent 6278443
Kinetic scrolling on a touchscreen -- Stolen from Philips
Magnetic connector -- Stolen from Japanese appliance manufacturer
Landscape/portrait mode change based on phone orientation -- Stolen from the touchscreen myOrigo phone made in Finland
Browser Task switcher look & feel -- Stolen from Nokia
Large touchscreen phone idea -- stolen from me http://slashdot.org/comments.p... [slashdot.org]
That's not mentioning the wholesale lifting of the idea of cell phones, smartphones, and apps from Motorola, Blackberry, and others.
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Forgot to mention also stealing their stealing of the fingerprint authentication idea from Motorola. I feel like that is pretty significant. What did Motorola get for that?
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Forgot to mention also stealing their stealing of the fingerprint authentication idea from Motorola. I feel like that is pretty significant. What did Motorola get for that?
Oh, you mean from the Moto phone where the fingerprint scanner was on the back, and you had to swipe your finger across it and the camera lens right next to it? Yeah, Apple totally stole that - only that there were fingerprint scanners decades before, and Apple actually did it in a way that wasn't literally a mess.
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Yeah, but nobody had put all those in a rounded rectangle! It was a brilliant move, I hated all those triangles and hexagons that came before it!
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How is it questionable? What a frail attempt at discrediting my factual statements. Which of my statements is provably false? Are you saying Philips did not invent kinetic scrolling on a touchscreen before Apple? Just google it. Are you saying the myOrigo phone didnt have landscape/portrait mode switching? Again, google it .. you'll see many old articles reviewing that phone.
Check the dates on any of the ideas or inventions I listed.
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So, mods, the +5 Insightful rating for the Parent simply points out (once again), the unbridled Apple Hate that manifests itself in Slashdot's asinine and broken "moderation" system.
Dry your Apple-flavored tears, troll. Approximately every time I say bad things about Apple here I get moderated down by Apple fans who are crying about the resulting sand in their arsecrack.
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So, mods, the +5 Insightful rating for the Parent simply points out (once again), the unbridled Apple Hate that manifests itself in Slashdot's asinine and broken "moderation" system.
Dry your Apple-flavored tears, troll. Approximately every time I say bad things about Apple here I get moderated down by Apple fans who are crying about the resulting sand in their arsecrack.
Yeah, it has nothing to do with your claims being wrong. Facts be damned.
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Yeah, it has nothing to do with your claims being wrong. Facts be damned.
I've used Apples since the ][+. Still have two macs here now, just to fiddle with them. I think I've probably owned a dozen or so Apples, if I think about it. The longer I think, the more I remember. ][+, Mac Plus, SE, IIci, Centris 650, Powerbook 280c, B&W G3 Revision 1, original B&W iMac, iBook G3, iMac G4 are the ones I can think of right now. I thought about building a Hackintosh, but then I came to my senses and refreshed my Linux install. I've also run NeXTStep in vmware, and used a Turbo slab
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Stop whining.
Point to where I said something untrue about Apple, or take a flying fuck off a tall cliff. Thanks.
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That's easy. Every use of the word stolen is an emotive statement not based in fact or law unless you also show us where the courts upheld that view.
Oh, my incompetent noob. Go back and read the thread, and point to the place where I used that word.
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That's easy. Every use of the word stolen is an emotive statement not based in fact or law unless you also show us where the courts upheld that view.
Oh, my incompetent noob. Go back and read the thread, and point to the place where I used that word.
ThatÄs easy: https://slashdot.org/~drinkypo... [slashdot.org] - find one that was modded down to be sure.
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The OP didn't lose. The entire body of phone customers did, as they'll be paying more for ludicrous "IP", as Apple suppresses competition which, for any other industry, would be completely standard "learning from others' simplistic design ideas". Rounded corner, fancier car headlights. Everything is built on something else, and when an idea is a) not even mildly clever, and b) originated with someone else entirely, you can stack the entire Earth's population of lawyers up claiming otherwise, it will stil
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So, mods, the +5 Insightful rating for the Parent simply points out (once again), the unbridled Apple Hate that manifests itself in Slashdot's asinine and broken "moderation" system.
It isnt Apple "hate", you just characterize it that way because you can't understand that people can view companies objectively rather than emotionally. In TFS you see Apple's motivation for this is to push the idea that copying is wrong, which GP is pointing out is rather hypocritical given their history of not really inventing anything but rather producing a collection of copied ideas. This usually results in brilliant products from the company but nonetheless is copying of other peoples' ideas.
I'm a fan
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Large touchscreen phone idea -- stolen from me http://slashdot.org/comments.p... [slashdot.org]
You are delusional, unless you're being sarcastic, in which case, well-played.
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Large touchscreen phone idea -- stolen from me
Considering people complained the screen of the original iPhone was too big, they obviously stole the idea from themselves.
Bull (Score:4, Informative)
SCOTUS specifically said Apple is NOT entitled to all of Samsung's Galaxty profits. That ship has sailed. They'll also get a fraction of what they wanted, which is still too much. See
http://www.zdnet.com/article/s... [zdnet.com]
for details.
Steven
stealing isn't right and is not the right word (Score:2)
Doctor Who (Score:1)
Somehow all the geeks here missed the good doctor. In fact, I'd like to sight just two examples: ... hand held device with modestly rounded corners, flat front amd flat back
Episode 1 - An Unearthly Child - William Hartnell
Episode 2 - The Daleks - William Hartnell ... hand held device with rounded corrners, flat face, slightly rounded back
Food for thought ... Woz and Jobs were who fans or at least one of them was!
Just sayin ...
Apple . . . I remember them . . . (Score:1)
Then the Nameless One (okay, Bill Gates) licensed the GUI from Apple and before they could say "hang on, we stole that first!" hit the markets with Windoze. The first time I saw it, it was the 2.0 - klunky, buggy, performed like a tortoise on phenobarbitol, but correctly marketed to all of those businesses that had no clue what a co