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Apple To Obsolete iPhone 4 and Late 2010 MacBook Air On October 31 (macrumors.com) 114

Apple will make all iPhone 4 models, the late 2010 13-inch MacBook Air, third-generation AirPort Extreme, and mid-2009 AirPort Time Capsule obsolete come October 31, MacRumor claims, citing a different report. From the report: Apple products on the vintage and obsolete list are no longer eligible for hardware service, beyond a few exceptions. Apple defines vintage products as those that have not been manufactured for more than five years but less than seven years ago, while obsolete products are those that were discontinued more than seven years ago. Each of the products added were released between 2009 and 2010. The report specifically pertains to Apple's vintage and obsolete products list in Japan, but the new additions will more than likely extend to the United States, Australia, Canada, and the rest of the Asia-Pacific and Europe regions.
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Apple To Obsolete iPhone 4 and Late 2010 MacBook Air On October 31

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    They do this all the time, and have for years.

  • by null etc. ( 524767 ) on Sunday October 16, 2016 @10:49AM (#53085199)

    Jony Ive appears on screen, against a stark white background. "The design of our new MacBook Pro fuses form and function into a new degree of usability and intuitiveness. Once you pick it up and start using it, all of the cares of the world simply fade away behind the brilliant illumination of our Super Retina display. It's a design that is at once both futuristic, and timeless. But not TOOOOO timeless - our world class engineering teams will only support this miraculous marvel of engineering for the next five years, so get yours while you can."

  • by sandbagger ( 654585 ) on Sunday October 16, 2016 @10:49AM (#53085201)

    Ditch the grand experiment of the trash can Mac and give me a new workstation-class case.

    • by gtall ( 79522 )

      I'll second that. That trash can must go, I want the nice solid tower macs back again.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Gr8Apes ( 679165 )

        I'd actually be happy with a solid mini. Those things rock as headless workstations, they're essentially mini pros... ;)

        I'd love a mac pro tower for my graphics workstation with some number of minis for processing and server loads.

    • by jbolden ( 176878 )

      Buy a few million of them a year. The old pros didn't sell very well, they were often seen as too big and too noisy. They didn't mesh with Apple's brand image. The trash can sold well for many months.

      Apple seems to be killing the desktop pros off the killed their server line. Apple liked a narrow product line. To get diversification you need volume sales. The numbers aren't there. The numbers certainly aren't there for a physically large machine.

    • It just needs an update (as does the whole Mac line at this point).

      The cooling design is good, and it offers plenty of expandability via ports. Make it as ugly as you like if you want to, but leave something slimmer for the rest of us that are fine with the core system plus something like a large external disk enclosure...

      • by Anonymous Coward

        It just needs an update (as does the whole Mac line at this point).

        i.e. you need to buy a new one, rather than just doing the sensible thing like replacing the GPU with something more capable like you used to be able to do with Mac Pros. It's a real wasteful consumerist mentality of throwing away things you don't need to.

        Apple make a lot of good design decisions but they make a lot of crap ones too, especially with the new Pro. The worst of which is the rotation to access back ports, which of course looks nice in their marketing but in practise is completely stupid because

        • i.e. you need to buy a new one, rather than just doing the sensible thing like replacing the GPU with something more capable

          You can replace the GPU, so what's your damage Heather?

      • Any significant upgrade would be replacing Broadwell or Skylake w/ Kaby Lake, and upgrading the memory and SSD densities in a workstation (Or whatever the Xeon equivalents of those CPUs are). But on the CPU front, Intel has long gotten to the point of diminishing returns, so there's nothing much to gain by updating it.

        This workstation is an excellent design, and reminiscent of the stuff that used to come out once upon a time from Silicon Graphics. And the OS too is just perfect - it's FreeBSD under the

    • by maynard ( 3337 )

      I know a guy who hacked his old 2009 Pro tower with two new xeons and a Titan X just to give the thing a bit more life. Made it a pretty good machine performance wise and he didn't have to throw away his old software investment. But he's already transitioning off mac, so this was to keep an old tool chain functional.

  • Recently Slashdot ran an article about Apple hardware lagging behind the latest technologies by as much as a year or two, couple that with their decision to stop supporting hardware after seven years, and current Apple products are over-priced devices with a limited useful life, dictated by the whims of designers.

    Sure, older Apple desktops and laptops are still useful after Apple drops support for the OS running on older hardware, but their usefulness diminishes without OS security patches/updates.

    • by gtall ( 79522 )

      Yeah, because the OS should be free. Linux is a great example of that, its fine when it works...and you have the time to make it work. When it doesn't, you get to troll the newgroups and be abused. Winders has an interface that could knock a dead buzzard off a shit wagon at 20 paces.

      • by KiloByte ( 825081 ) on Sunday October 16, 2016 @12:26PM (#53085669)

        When Linux doesn't meet your use case, you can fix it or pay someone to have it fixed. When OS X or Windows have the slightest bug, tough cookies, there's precisely nothing you can do.

        And for this particular article, you can use Linux on that 2010 MacBook Air just fine. Linux doesn't support hardware forever -- the kernel requires at least 486 and Debian just bumped the minimal requirements for i386 to 686, but for the latter that's still good 20 years of support.

        • by Anonymous Coward

          You can write drivers for windows and if you have enough money, they will include features for you.

          • You can write drivers for windows and if you have enough money, they will include features for you.

            Yeah, but the money required is quite a few orders of magnitude higher than for changes to Linux or BSD.

        • by exomondo ( 1725132 ) on Sunday October 16, 2016 @09:05PM (#53087885)

          When Linux doesn't meet your use case, you can fix it or pay someone to have it fixed.

          Yes in theory, but in practise regular users do not do either of those things. Yes it's annoying that support for older hardware is stopped but users just buy new hardware with supported software rather than switching to Linux and paying developers to fix problems for them. In fact unless you can find a cheap developer the former is probably more cost effective anyway.

    • Re: (Score:2, Troll)

      by aaarrrgggh ( 9205 )
      Technically they haven't been dropped on the software side yet, just hardware. The AirPort Extreme was a good little worker for me, but obsolete is a pretty good term for it. I forget if my Air is a 2010 or 2011, but it keeps on chugging, even running AutoCAD in a VM in a pinch. Unfortunately, that is the model that doesn't have after-market SSDs available which limits upgrade options.

      When I compare it to the "high-end" Dell equipment we buy, we get about 40% longer useful life and substantially fewer ha
  • by LynnwoodRooster ( 966895 ) on Sunday October 16, 2016 @01:06PM (#53085915) Journal
    Sold until September 2013 [wikipedia.org]. I guess that 3 years renders a product "obsolete" in the Apple world...
    • by thsths ( 31372 ) on Sunday October 16, 2016 @02:49PM (#53086441)

      Bingo. It does not matter when they started selling it, but when they stopped. And 3 years is pretty good compared to Android (many phones never have an up to date version available), but it is not an acceptable duration of support. Progress has slowed significantly, and most IT departments now assume a device to last for 5 years. Personally I have used older, but that does require significant compromise.

  • Still love my Aluminum Macbook from late 2008. Too old for my kids' Minecraft, but does flash games and internet in general fine.

    Of course it's too slow for recent versions of MacOS, but still works nicely on the latest version of Linux Mint.

    Apple hardware is still good (when they have updated specs, of course), it's just their OSs that makes things obsolete.

    • My 2007 Macbook Pro is still find hardware-wise, though I did upgrade the hard drive a few years ago for more capacity. It hasn't been able to run a supported version of OS X for a while. I've re-imaged it with Linux so I could continue to safely use it online. I was not heavily invested in Apple apps, so was not a tough call.

      I can understand the business decisions at work here, and am glad to have an option other than ponying up for shiny new hardware.
    • by jimbo ( 1370 ) on Sunday October 16, 2016 @01:58PM (#53086155)

      I just updated my 2006 Macbook Pro C2D to KUbuntu 14.04 from SnowLeopard because Chrome/Firefox don't support it anymore..

      For some reason the 64 bit version couldn't boot so had to be 32bit KUbuntu. Google Chrome doesn't come for 32bit Linux, Chromium does but couldn't load pages. Fortunately Firefox still works but I fear I won't get many more years out of it.

    • I have the white Macbook 2.1 "Late 2007 Santa Rosa" 2Gb of ram max. I installed Kubuntu to get Chrome again. I only changed the battery in 2010.

  • REally News flash? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 16, 2016 @02:29PM (#53086311)

    SO everyone is up in arms that Apple is obsoleting a 6 year old phone and computer.

    Yet they don't say shit when HTC/Dell/HP/Samsung does the exact same thing every year to all the models that are 1 year old or more.

    Go ahead and get a Software update from HTC for that HTC ONE 7... to the latest released android.. which is version 7.0... homm wierd not even the HtC one M8 or M9 can get 7.0 installed....


  • by tomxor ( 2379126 ) on Sunday October 16, 2016 @05:05PM (#53087011)
    FYI, Ubuntu is very smooth and fast on my 2008 mbp, FreeBSD runs nice too but drivers less so. Just because Apple doesn't want you to use it doesn't mean it's useless, don't buy more Apple shit if they keep prematurely obsoleting things with hardware that's barely improved.
    • I'm running El Capitan on a late 2008 MBP with no problems. After seven years of daily use this thing just keeps running. I think too much is made of these kind of announcements.

  • You can still use your 5 year old devices, they won't spontaneously explode.
    I heard that they recently contacted Samsung in order to find a way to fix this problem.

  • My mid-2010 15'' MBP still works as a champ (dual 512GB SSDs, 8GB RAM). It goes or I go.

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