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No One Wants To Buy Twitter (theverge.com) 316

At one point, it seemed that many were interested in purchasing the micro-blogging social platform (which now calls itself a news service) Twitter, but its fate is quickly drying up. Salesforce (which couldn't buy LinkedIn) showed the most interest in Twitter, but this week its CEO Marc Benioff said his company has "walked away" from making a bid to buy it. The Verge sums up the situation: If you're keeping track, that's now... pretty much everyone who's said they're not interested in buying Twitter. Neither Google nor Disney plan to bid on Twitter, despite reports saying both were interested. Recode says that Apple is likely also out of the picture. And Verizon immediately dismissed speculation that it was considering a bid. Facebook is also said to be uninterested, according to CNBC. And while Microsoft's name has been tossed around, no one seems to think the acquisition would make any sense for an increasingly enterprise-focused company.The situation is so bad that as soon as the news of Salesforce withdrawing its name from the bidding race broke, its stock quickly went up by 6 percent, while Twitter's stock registered a 6 percent drop.
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  • by Yaztromo ( 655250 ) on Sunday October 16, 2016 @03:34AM (#53084179) Homepage Journal

    I have a nice crisp clean $5 bill here I'll be happy to pay for them. I'll even throw in a bag of doughnuts.

    Anyone want to outbid me? Anyone?

    Yaz

    • by rlp ( 11898 )

      $5 and a bag of doughnuts? I think you're overpaying.

    • by Hognoxious ( 631665 ) on Sunday October 16, 2016 @04:54AM (#53084345) Homepage Journal

      That's cute and everything, but when you buy a company you take on its liabilities[1]. I suspect that's why so companies are looking under the veil and walking away from the altar.

      [1] Unless you're this jumped-up barrow boy [wikipedia.org], apparently.

      • That's cute and everything, but when you buy a company you take on its liabilities[1]. I suspect that's why so companies are looking under the veil and walking away from the altar.

        That's what I suspect as well. Their liabilities are probably well beyond their real estate, securities, and physical holdings, such that they aren't even worth buying as a fire sale.

        Still, if I were to incorporate and pay myself some crazy amount to dismantle the company, that $5 + bag of doughnuts investment could pay off nicely...

        Yaz

      • In principle, if you buy a company, your risk exposure is limited to your investment (that's what the "limited" in the companies' names mean). That's why you don't lose your house when you own stock in a company, even if it goes bust with billions in debt (see Enron there).

        Of course if the investment is big and/or you intend to use capital to prop up it, or you incorporate it in your own company, the risks are different. But for a private person, the $5 bill is all you are to lose there. And you could censo

        • Corporations also have multiple owners. Of course your house isn't suddenly on the line just because you owned 0.001% of a failed corporation.

        • by lucm ( 889690 )

          If your $5 buys you a controlling interest, you're on the hook for things like incurred taxes, payroll due, gross negligence or fraudulent behavior. So that's a lot more than $5 you could lose.

          Just doing the research to make sure the company doesn't owe taxes or payroll would cost a small fortune.

      • What exactly would Twitter liabilities be? Honestly have no idea.

        PS, i loved the Microsoft bit and how "no one seems to think the acquisition would make any sense for an increasingly enterprise-focused company", right after they dumped an island made of money for LinkedIn.

    • I'll give two pennies: The whole social media craze is a giant pimple that's about to burst. Companies like twitter and facebook aren't worth nearly as much as people think they're worth. That's my two cents.
      • by lucm ( 889690 ) on Sunday October 16, 2016 @11:14AM (#53085305)

        Facebook makes about ONE BILLION dollars in profit every quarter. They have virtually no debt. You may not like social media but it's a profitable business for Facebook.

        Twitter is something else.

  • Gee (Score:2, Insightful)

    Who'da thought turning into a 24/7 SJW promotional/hit site wouldn't work?

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      Right, in sure that put Google off, I mean can you imagine them implementing some kind of SJW bullshit real name policy on their social media sites?

      More likely it's because the extreme trolling and Twitter's slow reaction to it has damaged their reputation, devaluing their brand.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Mashiki ( 184564 )

        Right, in sure that put Google off, I mean can you imagine them implementing some kind of SJW bullshit real name policy on their social media sites?

        Sure did, how'd it work for youtube? How's it working for every site that implements the "facebook commenting system." You should know already, very poorly. If anything the actual discourse decreases and personal attacks increase. And on top of it, the number of people deciding to try getting people fired for "wrongthink" increases.

        More likely it's because the extreme trolling and Twitter's slow reaction to it has damaged their reputation, devaluing their brand.

        Someone has never been to a chan site or usenet in their entire life.

        • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

          I never said the real name policy worked. It helps if you respond to the points I actually make, not the ones you imagine I might use.

          And you are citing chan sites as examples of brands not damaged by their poor reputation for harassment and trolling? You know 4chan can't pay its bills, right? The more trolling they facilitate the more scummy the ads get, until eventually you have 8chan that can only get revenue from sources that literally don't give a shit. Let me know when one of them raises a few million

          • by Mashiki ( 184564 )

            Well let's look at all the big chans shall we? 4chan does actually make money, despite what Nishimura claims. He has a long history of lying through his teeth especially when he's making a buck selling user metadata. 8chan is profitable, especially since it has multiple external sources for money. 2chan and 2ch both make money hand over fist. Krautchan also makes money. Sorry, you were saying?

  • late 90's and where media companies were buying each other out and then dropping as things didn't work out. It think Go network use to gobble up lots of sites.

  • Who cares? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 16, 2016 @04:33AM (#53084305)

    Why does Twitter need to be bought by anyone? What's with this endless obsession about mergers and acquisitions and consolidation and stock market riches the west has?

    Let Twitter do Twitter.

  • its fate is quickly drying up

    Err, what? Is this a mixed metaphor or did a cat walk across the keyboard?

  • by allo ( 1728082 ) on Sunday October 16, 2016 @07:39AM (#53084657)

    More and more unfeatures, but not listening to its users anymore.

    The app has way too much ads (open a tweet and you see always a big ad below the replies), the web interface is slow inefficient and buggy.
    Users demand since years an "edit last tweet" function, but they always get something else they did not ask for and do not want
    - Videos have now autoplay!
    - You can retweet yourself!
    - We change the length of tweets, fuck you users of the old app
    - Moments

    Further they have strange ideas about blocking. Following is asymmetric. Cool. I do not need to read you, but you can still read me. Thats better for a site like Twitter than mutal friendships. But blocking is symmetric? I block you (my good right), but suddenly you cannot read me either? That's strange.

    I would like them to remove all shit and let the users pay 2 eur per month. That's fair. But then remove all ads and move the t.co tracking links back to nontracking ones.

  • Well duh... (Score:4, Informative)

    by Lumpy ( 12016 ) on Sunday October 16, 2016 @08:02AM (#53084713) Homepage

    No one wants to buy a large open festering cesspool either.

    Twitter has turned into a place of seething hatred and all that is wrong with humanity. Almost all the big guys have stopped interacting with it and now use it as a write only medium due ot the sheer numbers of shitmouths that are there that make slashdot trolls look civilized.

    Their own fault for not delivering tools that allow the control of the mess early on. now it's too late.

    • Almost all the big guys have stopped interacting with it and now use it as a write only medium due ot the sheer numbers of shitmouths that are there that make slashdot trolls look civilized.

      Er... Slashdot trolls are civilized. The moderation system demands it. We get our share of spammers, propagandists, and assorted lunatics. We mod them down so fast and so frequently that they give up.

      Plus Whipslash and company continue to fiddle with the filters, so the most obnoxious aren't even making it to moderation.

  • by indytx ( 825419 ) on Sunday October 16, 2016 @08:51AM (#53084785)

    All the talk about censorship of certain users misses the point. TWITTER IS NOT PROFITABLE. Twitter has been around for, what, 10 years, and it still cannot make a profit. It has a stupid business model because TWITTER DOES NOT MAKE A PROFIT. If someone had a decent idea how to monetize the service to turn a profit it would have done so. Dorsey took charge, again, and still no profit. The headline could read "No One Buys Money Losing Tech Company."

  • To the world. Other nations just have to learn to enjoy the fun of freedom.
    Add languages and support tools to get access. Don't ask any gov for access. Draw the best users to the brand and never seek the approval of bureaucrats.
    Fun and freedom will always attract the best new users. Been banned or reported is just like gov sanctioned web 2.0 in most repressive regimes. Not the best policy to grow any brand.
    Swapping out US protection before, during and after free speech for "international" acceptan
  • Increasing the text limit, adding videos and images, they've strayed from the original vision of mandatory quick updates and have introduced more time consuming/bandwidth-heavy elements that make it more like a traditional blog than just a series of status updates that can be rapidly consumed. Also adding verified accounts has created a disparity in the feature set that has created a different tier of users, perhaps adding an illusion of a schism in communication.

  • by Lisandro ( 799651 ) on Sunday October 16, 2016 @09:18AM (#53084871)

    Twitter's business model has been non profitable pretty much since its inception [forbes.com]. They were aiming for a LinkedIn and no one is taking the bait.

    Wonder if we're reaching the end of the second dotcom bubble...

  • hardly surprising (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ooloorie ( 4394035 ) on Sunday October 16, 2016 @10:40AM (#53085167)

    As a platform, the main distinguishing feature of Twitter compared to other platforms is that its 140 character limit makes any kind of discussion impossible, and that it strongly favors social signaling and self-righteous indignation as the primary modes of communication.

    I doubt advertisers want to see their products seen in such a divisive, biased, and angry environment as Twitter, and it isn't even useful for market research because its user population is so unrepresentative.

  • The world will be the better for it.

  • E.g. people using the client having to pay a monthly fee?
    If you see a way of this happening, then there's a future for Twitter. Else, there isn't.
    But hey, I can subscribe to newsletters and receive updates there, too. I don't have any kinds of instant notifications set for my Twitter-App, so any updates I only see when I actually open the client.
    Which incidentally is the same as with my mail client.

    Twitter is great way for companies to communicate with users (especially those that don't want to sign up to F

  • by istartedi ( 132515 ) on Sunday October 16, 2016 @06:03PM (#53087255) Journal

    I know I've said this before: "Twitter should have been an RFC, not a company".

    Remember RFCs and when there were clients other than HTTP that people cared about? This. Twitter's 140 character messages could be just UDP if you don't care about them making it, or a really quick TCP connection to some server that then redistributes the messages. Heck, it could even be blockchain based and distributed with no central server; but it never should have been a company. The only reason it's a company is because of the way VC money sloshes around in the Valley, and it's a casino where retail investors play against the house and always lose.

I tell them to turn to the study of mathematics, for it is only there that they might escape the lusts of the flesh. -- Thomas Mann, "The Magic Mountain"

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