T-Mobile To iPhone Users: Do Not Download iOS 10 For Now (zdnet.com) 63
If you have an iPhone, and you're on T-Mobile network, do not install iOS 10 for now. The U.S. carrier warned on Thursday that the iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, and the iPhone 5SE users who downloaded Apple's newest iOS software were facing connectivity issues. Apple is working on a fix, and T-Mobile expects to resolve things within 48 hours. ZDNet adds: You can power-cycle your iPhone by holding in the power and home button at the same time until you see an Apple logo displayed on the screen. Apple's release of iOS 10 hasn't been perfect. During its first hour of availability on Tuesday, iOS users reported issues with the update stalling just as it finished. Those impacted by the issue were required to use iTunes on a computer to reinstall the update. Despite a rough start, iOS 10 adoption was at nearly 15 percent after just 24 hours, and is currently at 21 perfect nearly two days after availability according to Mixpanel.
Also completely broke CarPlay (Score:5, Informative)
If you have a car that supports CarPlay, you shouldn't upgrade either. iOS 10 breaks the ability to remain paired. You'll basically need to re-pair the phone every time you turn the car on. (Not quite every time, sometimes it still works.)
On top of that, they somehow managed to break every non-Apple streaming app I've tried: Spotify, Pandora, NPR One: none of them work through CarPlay in iOS 10.
(Of course, if your car supports Android Auto you should be using that instead of CarPlay anyway: Android Auto is leagues ahead of CarPlay in literally every way.)
Given the complete lack of new features (the only noteworthy changes are Messages is now more annoying than ever and they broke the lock screen), it's hard to recommend ANYONE downgrade to iOS 10.
What is it with version 10 of OSes and then being horrible downgrades? I guess Apple wanted to take a page from Microsoft.
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Probably a base 10 rollover error. You see, when the major version hits 10 in the semver, the programmer's mind sees "0" at the head. This means their brains switch into beta release mode and, therefore, breaking things doesn't matter.
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I think the number 10 is just a bad omen. Windows 10 breaks a ton of computers. iOS 10 is breaking a ton of phones. When the Galaxy Note 10 comes out, we're probably going to have a mass extinction event.
Re:Also completely broke CarPlay (Score:4, Insightful)
What is it with version 10 of OSes and then being horrible downgrades? I guess Apple wanted to take a page from Microsoft.
As a long-time iOS user, I'd say it has nothing to do with "version 10" specifically. With iOS, the .0 releases have sucked since iOS 6 at least. Heck, with iOS 8 and iOS 9, the suckitude continued until they got to the .2 release of each.
The only exception may have been iOS 7, but that was basically a service pack for the many broken things about iOS 6.
Unless there's some glaring security bug getting fixed, people are well-advised to avoid any .0 and .1 releases of iOS nowadays.
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Have you tried any of the apps I mentioned? Because the pair thing Apple is going to just blame on the car manufacturer, but attempting to start Pandora flat-out crashes CarPlay entirely so that no other third-party apps work until the phone is rebooted. Spotify "works," up until the point where you try and play a song, and then enters a weird state where the media controls display, but nothing else does. NPR One just never really worked with CarPlay anyway (it never makes it past "loading") so whatever. Apps that used to work with CarPlay suddenly failing to work is Apple's fault, no matter how much they're just going to blame the head unit manufacturers.
Is that iOS 10's fault, or the App Vendor's fault for not rolling-out an iOS 10 compatible App? I'm betting the latter. And they've only had since July to test and fix their Apps.
Also, Pandora apparently works if you uninstall and reinstall the App [apple.com]. Even though they apparently haven't released an iOS 10 compatible version yet.
Spotify seems to be having a war with Apple, because they violated Apple's ToS, so now Apple and Spotify are caught in a deadly embrace, where Spotify won't comply, and Apple won't
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I have CarPlay and noticed no issues. I plugged in my iPhone and things worked as expected with iOS10.
The OP looks more like a troll and an Android shill than anything remotely insightful or even informative.
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currently at 21 perfect (Score:5, Informative)
The editors are far less than 21 perfect...
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iOS 10 (Score:3, Insightful)
"Despite a rough start, iOS 10 adoption was at nearly 15 percent after just 24 hours, and is currently at 21 perfect nearly two days after availability according to Mixpanel."
Or:
"48 hours after an all-but-enforced update for almost every one of their products, 80% of device owners still hadn't wanted - or managed - to install it."
500+ iPads on-site. 1/3 not eligible for the update. Local update caching MacOS server. High-end wireless network has fallen over for the last two days as they all try to get 1Gb update from local network, fail, retry, fail, retry.
Lucky we've got the caching server or they'd totally fuck the 100Mbps leased line connecting us to the world.
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Put 100 clients all downloading 1Gbyte at max speed on any AP of any brand.
Now make that download fail easily and retry from start when it fails (no resume).
Watch as whatever wireless you have dies a death and starts rate-limiting those clients, even if it allows other users to carry on at a limited rate.
It doesn't matter what you do, you either knock genuine clients for six, or you end up in a worse situation for even longer as you start limiting their ability to do that.
(note: 500 iPads, 200+ other devic
Re:Better yet (Score:5, Funny)
Go get a good phone instead.
Yeah! Like a Note 7. I hear that's the new hot shit in town...
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I have to download it (Score:1)
How else can I get porn so easily in my iMessage conversations?
Couldn't receive calls (Score:2)
I ran into an issue where incoming calls when straight to voicemail. I don't know for sure if this problem was caused by iOS 10, or something else. I don't receive many calls.
Regardless, I tried various troubleshooting step including rebooting the device (regular power off/on), resetting the device (holding power and home until it restarted), and resetting my network settings (General->Reset->Reset Network Settings).
What ended up working for me was to simply eject the SIM card, wait a couple seconds
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I ran into an issue where incoming calls when straight to voicemail.
THAT sounds like a feature, not a bug...
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https://slashdot.org/comments.... [slashdot.org]
Followed by
https://www.sadtrombone.com/?a... [sadtrombone.com]
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I ran into the problem again today.... and that's when I discovered I had accidentally enabled Do Not Disturb and didn't notice.
For all I know this was the problem the other day too, and the act of removing my phone from it's case flipped the switch off again.
That's a reminder to ALWAYS do sanity checks, even if you think you're too smart to make such a stupid mistake.
I'm sure even Einstein forgot to carry the 1 now and then.
One data point (Score:2)
One data point++ (Score:2)
For what it is worth, as an iPhone 6 user on T-Mobile who did the upgrade yesterday I have not had any problem. I just verified that I can call myself and make outgoing calls. Whatever the problem is it apparently doesn't affect everybody.
Increment the counter for me. No issues, same situation.
Could it be location specific, perhaps?
How long to get Android up to 21 perfectËh (Score:1)
How long would it take for Android to get 21% of its devices to be at the most recent release? Already on N and has M made 21%?
Re:How long to get Android up to 21 perfectËh (Score:2)
Loaded argument.
Over time, hardware capabilities change. An android 3.x based device just can't run marshmallow. They tend to have crippled internal storage (usually 200 to 500mb!), and crippled ram (512 to 700mb!). Even if you wanted to, the modern android OS stack cannot run on them.
Apple gets around this by saying "We won't support older handsets after this release." And apple's customers are all too gung-ho to drop shitloads of money on the newest ishiny, allowing most of the obsoleted devices to not be
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Apple gets around this by saying "We won't support older handsets after this release."
Wrong. Apple doesn't "get around" supporting old devices, they continue to support old devices for years and years while Android vendors including Google dropped support for devices mere months after selling them.
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NO, they do not.
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2... [arstechnica.com]
try again.
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Is it reading comprehension or is it counting with big numbers that you fail to understand?
The Ars link you cite notes that the Ipad 2 and the iPhone 4s that both came out in march 2011 are only now being orphaned by iOS 10. That's over 5 years of support that you can contrast with Android's much shorter 6-24 months before being abandoned.
Re: How long to get Android up to 21 perfectË (Score:1)
For some android devices, it seems like a month after release is asking a lot an update with these devices some companies make. And if these devices do get updated, it is a minor security fix.
Who tests these updates? (Score:2)
You'd think after Apple forced the hands of the carriers to deliver updates directly without their approval they would at least test the updates on all the major networks.
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You'd think after Apple forced the hands of the carriers to deliver updates directly without their approval they would at least test the updates on all the major networks.
The consumer. Apple doesn't even bother cherry picking bug fixes from the previous version until they're on the .1 release of the latest OS. I swear they had the same release day bug with gmail on iOS 7, 8 and 9. Same with Yosemite and Mavericks.
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The odd part about this is that I was using the iOS 10 beta on T-Mobile since it was publicly available, and this issue only cropped up once the release version dropped and a carrier bundle update was received. I'm guessing it's IPv6 related, since it usually is when T-Mobile breaks something.
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Ironically, the update fixed my T-Mobile con- (Score:2)
nection issues.
My 6S Plus has had consistent issues staying connected to TMobile towers. Switching between strong LTE, mediocre 4G, and one bar 2g and then no signal whatsoever (requiring a reboot or a visit to airplane mode to restore) within minutes without me moving away from my desk.
Since updating connections don't shift and I haven't had to drop into airplane mode to restore connection once.
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Nope.
5SE isn't a phone (Score:2)
Re: 5SE isn't a phone (Score:1)
I kinda wish they had just named it the iPhone 6Se or the like. Small e intended.
Bad carrier settings file (Score:2)
T-Mobile issues? (Score:2)
I'm on T-Mo but have a Samsung Galaxy S3. I noticed this week that my mobile data usage was massive. Just this week I've used nearly 2.5GB. My normal usage is less than a GB for the whole billing period. I'm wondering if the iOS 10 issue is hammering the T-Mo network and causing my problems. My data usage shows that it's my email app that is using all the data; I have an Apple email acct, maybe the combo of the two things is affecting me?
confused.. (Score:1)
This is the buggiest release yet (Score:2)
When iOS 6 came out I did not experience any issues after power cycling the phone at least once. With iOS 10 I am having problems with the new unlock screen "feature" failing to work correctly (it is opening the Home screen 50% of the time) and apps are crashing and glitching on me daily including Apple's own apps. I highly recommend anyone that has not upgraded yet to not do so and instead wait for 1 or 2 point releases.
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