iOS 10 Is Surfacing Hardcore Porn GIFs in iMessage (theverge.com) 181
Apple has found itself in hot water once again. The company's revamped iMessage -- and the inclusion of a range of extensions -- isn't rendering the best of results. Hours after the release of iOS 10 -- which caused issues for some users -- news outlets noticed a "highly sexual" My Little Pony GIF was appearing in searches when curious minds searched for the word "butt". But that wasn't the end of it. The Verge explains the horror: A woman who emailed The Verge this afternoon says her eight-year-old daughter, while trying to send a message to her dad, was presented with "a very explicit image" of "a woman giving oral sex to a well endowed male." Her daughter hadn't searched for anything explicit, just the word "huge." I see the image come up like, holy shit, whoa whoa whoa, that's a hardcore porn image," Tassie Bethany, whose daughter discovered the image, tells The Verge by phone. "I grabbed the phone from her immediately. She typed in the word 'huge,' which isn't sexual in any nature. It's just a word, not like butt or anything else." GIF search is one of the new features built into iMessage in iOS 10. Apple has been prohibiting searches for most sexual terms, but it's a real problem for porn to slip through for an otherwise normal term like "huge."Reminds me of Apple's old porn problems.
ewww (Score:2)
The internet is a filthy place, always has been.
Re:ewww (Score:5, Funny)
Worse than that, the internet is a huge place.
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And it seems that her daughter has been exploring it...
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If I had several large pictures in my hand, turned around so the kids couldn't see them, and each time a kid said a word, I'd turn a picture around that matched, to my way of thinking, what the kid said, and when a kid said, "huge" I turned around a picture of a lady blowing some guy with a huge penis, I'd be taken to jail
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Better not have this happen if you are black. A cop would shoot you because he could clearly see there was a gun in your pants.
Re:ewww (Score:4, Funny)
...and most of us wouldn't have it any other way...
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Courage (Score:5, Funny)
That's all.
HO LEE CRAP! (Score:2)
Awesome job, Tim!
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Yes, I agree. I really don't see why all these users are complaining about bonus content. There are lots of people in the world that still have to pay for it!
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Yes, I agree. I really don't see why all these users are complaining about bonus content. There are lots of people in the world that still have to pay for it!
You mean boners content.
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butt.... (Score:2)
What, what?!? If you search for the word 'butt', wouldn't you complain if you DIDN'T get an explicit image? Or is the problem that the My Little Pony image wasn't explicit enough? Maybe one really does have to go to the 2nd page of search results from time to time.
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Yeah because typing an extra "t" is so hard to do on an touch keyboard....
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It searches the whole internet.
Not sure what else you expect.
Well, it did until they blocked 'butt' and 'huge'. I'm guessing there are other people gaming it right now with other words.
'MLP' doesn't show anything 'huge'
Simpsons (Score:5, Funny)
Reverand Lovejoy: [throws Bart out] Don't you ever come near my daughter again! Never have I heard such gratuitous use of the word "butt"!
Bart Simpson: [pleading] But-but-but, but-but-but...
Helen Lovejoy: [covering her ears] Make him stop! Make him stop!
Re:Simpsons (Score:5, Funny)
(Bart slams against the glass, naked)
Flanders: "PENIS!??!?!"
Rod and Todd: "Bountiful penis"
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That's just the thing, that MLP image wasn't explicit, it was a parody image.
Dangerous language... (Score:3)
My kid told me, their elementary school teacher would not say "Hate". If she needs to refer to the emotion at all, she'll say: "H-word".
Maybe, we ought to find an euphemism for "Huge" too now — but, obviously, it can not be "H-word", since that's already taken.
And then we time, how long it takes porn-producers to linking the euphemism to the same porn-images — thus forcing us to search for yet another replacement.
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Are you serious? Perhaps it's time to find a new school for your child...or at least a new teacher.
Re:Dangerous language... (Score:5, Interesting)
Unfortunately, the government monopoly on education prevents most people — including myself — from doing so.
That said, the school is not bad. And, having grown up in the USSR myself, I know very well, how to prevent the damage, which the state would do to a child's mind, if allowed to... After all, American ideologues are still amateurs compared to the Soviet ones.
Re:Dangerous language... (Score:4, Interesting)
After all, American ideologues are still amateurs compared to the Soviet ones.
Of all the day to not have mod points.
That said the American education system is also rather good at making learning suck. Things like science, history, math, are all taught in the most boring way possible. I have frequently seen this with the kids in my son's scout den. Thankfully myself and the other den leader try to make learning a lot more fun and actually do things. For example in class the kids learned about the 3 different types of rocks and how they were made. In scouts we went and spent a couple of weeks on geology and found a bunch of rocks, examined them to see which of the 3 types they were, broke them open to see some of the structure, looked at them under magnifying glasses, put some in a rock polisher, etc. The thing the kids got the biggest kick out of was making our own rocks from ones we found. We melted them in my forge and poured it into some crucibles to cool at different rates. The next week we broke those new rocks open to see what effect the rate of cooling had on them with the grain size. We have done similar things for other topics in science, math and history so that they get to have lots of hands learning that also goes into more depth.
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IAAE(conomist) and you don't know what monopoly means.
There are many school options where I live and far from all of them are run by the government.
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Whichever school your (and mine) children attend, we both are still paying for the government's one.
That makes it a monopoly — and of the worst kind too. You can avoid lesser monopolies by simply foregoing whatever service they provide. Unfortunately, government's "offerings" are not so easily escaped...
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Claiming a monopoly of education in the US just shows that you are a shitty liar or retarded. Even in Communist* Sweden parents have the right to select which school they want their children to attend, in the US it is "trivial" to arrange for home schooling if anything else doesn't fit. That is considerably harder in e.g. Sweden as children have the right to a good education and if one want to home school one also have to prove they will get a good education.
(* it is absolutely not communist however for the
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Yeah, I would really h8 that kind of nonsense.
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Sounds like a huge problem.
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butt butt butt....
No it's not!
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Sounds more like a dick problem. A huge dick problem.
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Siri, search the web for images of ungood girls and doubleplus unsmall dongs.
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I propose "yuge" </trump>
Re:Dangerous language... (Score:5, Insightful)
Ha! reminds me of my mom (who came of age in the 60s) when i was a kid:
"hate is a very strong word"
shes right though, my mom, not the teacher. I assume the teacher meant something similar though. Kids (and people in general) are always saying they "hate" everything when really they just mean dislike. Hate is a much stronger word and children should be taught the difference.
I dislike eating fish. I hate slavery.
There is nothing wrong with children being taught to use language correctly.
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Whether or not a particular feeling is merely a "dislike" or an actual "hate", there is no reason to substitute the word with a weaselese expression like "H-word".
Full agreement. I told my child, she has my permission to use the word — in all of our three languages — if she feels it appropriate.
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Can we teach them that language changes over time? That it evolves? Or is that not allowed either?
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Can we teach them that language changes over time? That it evolves? Or is that not allowed either?
BZZZT! You said the E-word. I really H-word that.
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Sorry, but the language has not evolved so much that dislike is now a synonym for hate (or vice versa). However, the use of H-word instead of hate would seem to be the type of linguistic evolution that you seem to be in favor of.
So what exactly is your point?
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Well, if a generation or two is using dislike for hate, then yes it has changed.
You're just not aware of it. Probably because it's more subtle than the H-word for you.
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Yes, they have. I hate that you don't recognize that.
Get out from in front of your computer & find out how much people 'hate' things everywhere.
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i love lamp.
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Thanks for proving that you don't know what the word hate means
Thank you for proving that you don't know what the word apple means.
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What about H-bomb? Similar to F-bomb. Oh wait...
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It's a technical problem. Back in the 90s, in fact probably before that, spammers figured out that if they just added as many keywords as possible their stuff would show up in more search results. Search engines quickly learned to filter them.
Somehow I knew this story would trigger poor mi.
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Having lost two out of two recent arguments with me, you really do have little left but refer to me as "poor"... *Plonk*
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It's cute that you think you are winning. Never change, mi.
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F-word, that's stupid.
Setting content restrictions in iOS (Score:3)
If you don't set the content restrictions in the iOS settings, you'll get unfiltered results. Who'd-a-thought!
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And seriously, images should not come up in a search. It's the internet, it's too dangerous to just let images come up during a search without clicking on a link first. Sure some search engines wnat to show you pics, but it's a bad idea.
Re:Setting content restrictions in iOS (Score:4, Funny)
So images should not come up when you're using iMessage to search for gifs. Got it. Jobs would be proud.
Steve Jobs suggestion re porn (Score:3)
Steve Jobs said "People who want porn can buy an Android phone." Thanks for the suggestion, Steve, I think I will.
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I just use Safari. Works every time.
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Not sure exactly what iMessage is, but "message" implies more text than image.
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Images shouldn't come up in an image search?
Do you even know what you're talking about?
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Not in a generic search. Mind you I have no idea what imessage is. But even if I were on google, and I was looking for an image such as "strawberries", I would be prepared to see the worst the internet had to offer and wouldn't do this search at work.
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Then why are you commenting.
It *IS* an image search inside iMessages.
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I have no problem with having to turn off a filter instead of turn it on. If it protects children and idiots, and is simply a checkbox in the settings, that works fine for me.
Bing and you're done! (Score:5, Insightful)
The images appear to just be .gif type images originating from Bing. There's even a bing logo in the corner of the search window. I suspect it's similar to searching plain old Bing for .gif's. Even in safe search mode porn occasionally comes up.
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The images appear to just be .gif type images originating from Bing. There's even a bing logo in the corner of the search window. I suspect it's similar to searching plain old Bing for .gif's. Even in safe search mode porn occasionally comes up.
Yep.
Could have been worse... (Score:3)
No unseeing it was huge! (Score:2)
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for spineless hipster progressives maybe.. Normal people just laugh at his hair just like they cringe at hillary's gaping smiles..
Huge is the issue (Score:3)
I can see butt giving NSFW images.
But the word "huge" has no business defaulting to porn.
I ran it on google and duckduckgo and did not have that problem, but run it on bing and you pics of very well endowed women.
This is an issue with Microsoft failing to do their job, not an issue with search engines in general.
Re:Huge is the issue (Score:5, Funny)
Think about the number of things you'd use the word "huge" with in terms of searching. For most things, we'd probably denote some unit of measure or use the word "large". Google search returned mostly SFW stuff, but did include this rather hilarious porn image: http://media.boingboing.net/wp... [boingboing.net] (NSFW)
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What is the internet for? (Score:2)
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Try wife or honey.
Team size (Score:3)
100 people trying to write rules to stop 100,000 people trying to share porn, whilst not stopping everybody else. How hard can it be? (I'll leave the question of whether a pun is intended to an internet poll.)
I've made a huge mistake. (Score:3)
The immortal words of GOB Bluth, https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
Won't solve the cartoon issues but(t) (Score:2)
It won't stop the cartoon images but it seems like Apple could to save themselves a lot of grief by simply doing what websense does and filtering images with to much area that falls within the range of human flesh tones.
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That'll work great when people are looking for gifs like face or forehead or ear, etc...
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But then you end up with a racist filter. if you go for all possible flesh tones you'll be over-blocking severely.
The internet is for ... (Score:2)
... huge things.
Awww! (Score:2)
Why did they have to advertise the fact? I just searched for "butt" and "huge" and I go no results at all!
Thanks for ruining it for the rest of us. :P
Looks like they're adding term filters (Score:2)
They must be adding keyword blocks at a breakneck pace right now.
This sucks thought... NOW how am I going to send pictures of boobies, tits and shags to fellow bird-watchers?
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Depends on where you ask. ;)
The Big Picture (Score:4, Interesting)
The Norwegian Prime Minister Erna Solberg had an article in the Guardian about how the big media players are getting too much control over the information flow. I think it's a timid and diplomatic article and I would put it in stronger words. But at least we should be able to see that the danger exists that information flow is massaged to suit big powers. If google search buries a link then it does not exist. If google ads decides you're publishing information they don't like, they lock you out and you'll think twice after that. Mainstream media already stick to extremely narrow narratives, it will spread beyond that.
https://www.theguardian.com/co... [theguardian.com]
I can report... (Score:2)
that searching for "huge" in iMessage currently returns No Results
The internet has fixed itself.
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I do not have an iThing, but I am curious: What do you get for 'furry?'
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OMG!!! the horror, the horror !!!
no but seriously -- mostly cute cartoon foxes/wolves, cats and bears. oh - and a bat.
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I like bats. They are cute.
Flap flap flap.
Old rule remains true (Score:2)
Summary: iOS10 makes porn easier than ever to access.
Result: AAPL up $3..80 for the day.
Why a messaging application pulling others' pics? (Score:3)
If my website happens to have a picture on it, and you use image search to "Post" it to a friend
out of context, that's Copyright Infringement.
The accidental inclusion of porn should be the least of Apples' worries....
commentsubjectsaredumb (Score:2)
- Image fetching extensions are little more than a search engine.
- Huge is a sexually-associated word to AI, don't argue with numbers.
I wouldn't be surprised if the fine print for the GIF extension says some "internet user experience may have varied content" boilerplate ala ESRB for online games.
Don't try to help me! (Score:3)
Half of the frustration with computers in the past few years is that they no longer do what we tell them - instead, they try to figure out what we really wanted and guess at what they should provide.
In the immortal words of Beka Valentine*, "Override Safety Protocols! Authorization code, 'Shut up and do what I tell you!' "
*And if you don't watch Andromeda, shame on you - it's quality is very uneven in places, but in many ways, it's the the best synthesis of Roddenberry's recurring themes in one show: The nature of humanity of AIs (Data, Questor, etc.) and aliens (Spock, et al), the genetic superman and his culture and realtionship with humanity (Khan, etc.), the heroic underdog, the character of the Captain, and more..
My manifesto for computing in the 21st century: "STOP TRYING TO HELP ME, DAMMIT, JUST DO WHAT I SAY!"
An 8-yr-p;d with a general purpose smartphone? (Score:2)
There should be specially curated phones for kids which will let them learn how to use one, including installing apps, in a safe manner.
The real problem (Score:2)
There are many reasons why watching pornography may be bad, but I have never been convinced that seeing pornography is likely to traumatise anybody, especially not a child, who would have no experience against which to interpret what they saw. It seems to me that any trauma that arises comes from adults making undue fuss over it and describing it as "dangerous" and "dirty". When you have no sexual experience and have yet to develop your drives and lusts, porn is more likely to evoke feelings of confusion an
Re:Hmmm (Score:4, Funny)
I fail to see any problem here.
There was a man in the picture as opposed to two women.
Re:Hmmm (Score:4, Insightful)
I fail to see any problem here.
There was a man in the picture as opposed to two women.
No, there was a woman in the picture as opposed to two men. This is Apple we are talking about.
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AOL caused a recursive feedback loop to occur because it's run by a bunch of tits.
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just like removing the headphone jack
I hate to think what a search for "HEADphone JACK" returns on iOS 10.
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I just tried it, and there's a little "bing" copyright at the bottom of the image list. So technically it's Microsoft's fault. :)
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LOL at the level of ignorance of this comment.
No wonder you posted anonymously.
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As a kid you don't really care about anything sexual, until you're told that you're not allowed to have anything to do with it.
Nice theory, but I don't recall anyone telling me as a kid I was not allowed to have anything to do with it, but it didn't stop me being drawn to pictures of naked women if I came across them, certainly by the age of 8 in what you might call a proto-sexual way. I recognised my reaction as being like nothing else I experienced (still is), and I did not care to discuss or share my feelings with others around that time, or long after.
Educate your kids,... and they'll do a better job managing it./p>
I cannot help feeing that people who consider that sex is just another nice
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I feel sorry for her husband if she thinks oral is "hardcore."
Why? Just because it is hardcore does not mean she does not do it. I do hardcore things; I don't put pictures of them on the web though.