Apple Hikes Order Volume For iPhone 7 Parts In Wake of Samsung Recall (macrumors.com) 88
An anonymous reader writes: In wake of Samsung's recall of the Galaxy Note 7, Apple has reportedly hiked orders for parts and components required for the production of the upcoming iPhone 7 and 7 Plus. Mac Rumors reports: "Apple shipped on average 30 million iPhone 6s units a month in the second half of 2015. The company originally predicted shipments of the iPhone 7 this year would reach only 60 percent of that number over the same period, but supply chain sources are today reporting that Apple has boosted its original prediction by 10 percent. The hike in order volumes suggests Apple is increasingly upbeat about demand for the new devices among existing iPhone owners seeking to upgrade, despite relatively subdued interest in the iPhone 7 models compared to the pre-launch buzz of previous years. Another potential factor in Apple's upward revision is Samsung's global recall of its Galaxy Note 7 smartphone last week, which followed numerous complaints that the device caught fire while charging. The news arguably couldn't have come at a worse time for Apple's biggest rival, which has pitched its Note 7 as a direct competitor to Apple's 5.5-inch iPhones."
Was going to order a note 7 (Score:4, Insightful)
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it i would be foolish if apple think it will get greater sales due to sumsung recall (i am pretty sure apple do not think that btw, and this increase if true is for some other reason).
people who are prevented from buying a note 7, do have many other options(and andriod one too) other than overpriced ability challenged iphone 7.
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I have learned a valuable lesson from Samsung, until the make Note's with user replaceable batteries, I will never buy another one. See how useless they are, Samsung will now lose millions of phone value because of it. I wonder if the next note will have a user replaceable battery, consider no recall, product could be still on sale, just supply buyers with a replacement battery. Samsung just went through losses they expected customers to go through to force them to buy another phone or spend a huge amount u
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I just priced some for my four year old phone, damn $8, still happy?
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Samsung will replace them for $45. It's not $8, but they'll stand behind them better than that Chinese knock-off you got for $8.
Yeah I've tried the Chinese knock-off for $8, did not go well for me. I pay for proper OEM batteries to keep my Galaxy S5 going strong.
Good luck with that... (Score:2)
Yeah...good luck finding a flagship with a replaceable battery that isn't riddled with problems. We'll see what LG does with their V20 today, but after my experience with the G4, which left tens of thousands of users stranded thanks to bootloop issues and (in my case) absolutely hideous performance, I'm loathe to trust another LG.
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Why not buy a Note7 if you want a Note7?
You aren't affected by the problem because you didn't buy it yet. And after you buy it, the problem will be fixed. You just have to wait a bit.
You probably have your reasons but personally, I wouldn't get a Note5. It has lost plenty of features compared to the Note4 (SD card, removable battery, IR blaster, ...) and compared to the Note7 it is globally inferior (because it is the older model) and lacks the SD card slot and water resistance. The price really has to be i
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I was actually going to order a note 7 to replace my 4 year old smartphone. When the news of the recall came, I just decided to save some money and settle for a Note 5. I think if people like Android, they like Android.. The lack of Note 7s isn't going to swing people to iOS.
Agree here. People who were interested in an iPhone would have bought it in the first place, not settled for a Galaxy.
I do think this opens the window of opportunity for other phones, be it a Moto, Google phone, Xiaomi, OnePlus, et al. But not Apple.
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Brilliant move (Score:4, Interesting)
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Balancing Act (Score:1)
One hand, posible dongle for wired headphones I almost never use... on the other hand, exploding phone. Hmm.
It's pretty obvious if they ship with no headphone jack it also means they ship with wireless earbuds. So why is it even a problem, much less the gigantic issue you seem to think it is?
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The number of extra iPhones sold because of Samsung shortages will be a tiny percentage of the total number of iPhones sold. It will in no way make it a "broader issue" - that would also imply there is even an issue, which the technorati will too discover to their dismay there is not.
They same fainting couch was fallen upon with great false tears back with the Lightning connector change, and absolutely nothing came of that. I fall to see how this will be ay different, in fact it's a far smaller change.
You
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Sorry I missed your neutrality on the issue, but I still can't see how it brings any more light on the issue... there have already been a billion articles on this, so I honestly do not see how it can possibly gain more exposure through a few more users of the phone. Even my wife, who does not care about technology or follow technology news at all, has mentioned it already... if she has heard about this there is literally no-one left on earth who is not aware.
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Almost nobody used the 30-pin connector for anything other than charging, because so-called universal docks were never compatible with whatever new device Apple shipped six months later. I doubt more than 1% of users used it for anything other than plugging in the cord that came with it t
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did you notice that Lightning docks are far less common than the old-style docks that used to be everywhere?
But it didn't matter to users. The docks are not around as much as they used to be, but people use them less as wireless technologies became more prevalent... exactly the reason the headphone jack is also going away.
The sole benefit of removing the headphone jack is a slightly slimmer phone,
Technically there are benefits to having the headphone connector being wholly digital also, and it removes ampl
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Apple is (seemingly) not moving to a different wired headphone standard.
Apple almost never moves to any standard. Even when they do, they make sure they have a goofy variant.
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It's not. Almost nobody cares about a headphone jack except for the kiddies that cant afford anything more than a $100 prepaid phone to begin with.
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It's not. Almost nobody cares about a headphone jack except for the kiddies that cant afford anything more than a $100 prepaid phone to begin with.
Untrue, my kids have iPhones (previous generation admittedly) and they get through headphones/earbuds like a rat through cardboard. You can currently get cheap earbuds from Poundland, but I wouldn't want to be buying an Apple pair every couple of weeks at GBP30+ a pop.
Re: Balancing Act (Score:1)
I'll take a exploding phone over anything from a terrible company like apple
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For the few people for whom the stock earbuds do not work, you just attach the adaptor to the pair of headphones you prefer and you are done. That's why I'm mystified the people think it's such a big deal, most people just use one listening device.
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And as far as an iPhone goes, its storage fills up quickly. First of all, no SD slots, so you better have a good amount of storage to begin w/. I also use WhatsApp, which also fills up the phone. And if one has kids, then they tend to download all sorts of games & apps, which are much more popular for iOS than for Android or Windows 10 Mobile.
So I don't have any songs on my iPhone, and don't plan to. I have an iPod Touch - 2nd gen, which is stuck at iOS4.2, and for some music videos that won't run
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It's pretty obvious if they ship with no headphone jack it also means they ship with wireless earbuds. So why is it even a problem, much less the gigantic issue you seem to think it is?
For one, wireless *anything* is less reliable than its wired equivalent. In any sort of crowded environment, quality is going to go down as everyone's wireless headphones are competing with each other in limited radio spectrum. Bluetooth itself has abysmal performance in military towns and port cities, because something the military/coast guard is doing causes interference on those frequencies.
Two, removing the analog jack means removing the analog loophole. That is to say, if the iPhone doesn't have to sup
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For one, wireless *anything* is less reliable than its wired equivalent. In any sort of crowded environment, quality is going to go down as everyone's wireless headphones are competing with each other in limited radio spectrum. Bluetooth itself...
It's interesting you think Apple's wireless headphones will use Bluetooth, or that they have not considered the aspect of many people using the headphones at once.
That is to say, if the iPhone doesn't have to support an analog audio plug, and everything is digital,
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Now I have to buy an adaptor too? Yet another dongle to carry around, keep charged, lose or break... Yeah, I don't think so. When it comes time to "upgrade" my 6s, I'll be upgrading to a vendor whose product is convenient for me.
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For one, wireless *anything* is less reliable than its wired equivalent.
Plenty of kids destroy the wires on headphones, sometimes costing parents hundreds of dollars over the years. Totally talking about other people, not my own kid *cough*. But regardless, having no wires can be more reliable in some ways.
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It's pretty obvious if they ship with no headphone jack it also means they ship with wireless earbuds.
No, it's not obvious at all. More likely they ship with earphones that plug into their proprietary lightning connector. And as always, the earphones that ship with a phone will be cheap crap, but the only replacement for a while will be to go Bluetooth, or pay double the Apple tax for lightning connector Beats headphones.
Which would you rather have? (Score:2)
A company who stands behind its products and recalls an entire model over a 0.002% failure rate, or one that tells you you're holding it wrong when your hand shorts out the antenna or tells you you've mishandled the phone when your touchscreen controller fails?
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you know that iphones actually have ever smaller share of market. just stick to numbers.
but you are right, samsung recall may well have no impact, since anyone not buying sumsung will buy some other android phone.
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Apple outsells Samsung in the high end market. iPhone's out sell the Samsung Galaxy 5/6/7 series. But the cheap Androids outsell iPhone's by a large number. Just compare the correct market segments. If it was iPhone versus Windows Phone with the same numbers, Microsoft would have started a marketing campaign to convince developers to drop iPhone support, just like they did in the Windows era. Please let such a thing not happen again. Samsung+Google could become the new Wintel if they started to use the same
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iphone do not "outsell" samsung. and iphones have ever less market share. stick to numbers and face the facts. your/my dis/liking them has not much to do with that.
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Re: Yes they do (Score:2, Informative)
That logic is almost as tortuous as Apple's profit funneling.
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Order Phones with Removable batteries (Score:3)
Order Phones with Removable batteries. BLU, and several other manufacteres make phones with good batteries that are removable. If need be, order a battery not made of Lithium Colbalt. The Cobalt part is Cancerous, get a Lithium Iron battery instead.
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I don't cut open and eat my batteries.
I read the MSDS sheet for lithium cobalt oxide but nothing there is mentioned of causing cancer. did you make that up? are you confusing elemental cobalt or some other compound of cobalt with this particular salt of cobalt?
what good is getting removable battery if taking it from phone and putting in charger is going to make it catch on fire anyway in the charger instead of the phone?
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People don't usually store much of their data in a charger either.
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the phone is going to be in a separate place when the charger burns the place down?
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Yes, the phone is going to be in my hand with the other battery calling the fire brigade.
How do you care either way, didn't you just die when your place burnt down?
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people generally do their charging overnight. at least in the phone the battery is enclosed with not just the phone but a case, but those typical chargers (worth a $1.50 and made in chinese sweatshops) are going to let the flames be little Free Willy's.
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Yes, and keeping the battery in the phone and the phone inside a case will allow it to heat up much more, and catch on fire more easily.
People aren't going to put their battery under their pillows to charge, or similar stupid places that they do with phones.
Anyway, it's either a big fire and everything is destroyed like you said. No difference.
Or a small fire where not everything is destroyed, and your data and phone is safe. Removable battery is clearly better in this case.
You can continue to nitpick t
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I don't cut open and eat my batteries.
I read the MSDS sheet for lithium cobalt oxide but nothing there is mentioned of causing cancer. did you make that up? are you confusing elemental cobalt or some other compound of cobalt with this particular salt of cobalt?
what good is getting removable battery if taking it from phone and putting in charger is going to make it catch on fire anyway in the charger instead of the phone?
From what I know, the cancer causing metals are Lead, Mercury and Cadmium (forget which group they are in the periodic table). Cobalt is not in the list.
I think reason GP mentioned it is that when the batteries are used up and disposed, if they contain Lead, Mercury or Cadmium, they contaminate the water supply leading to public health issues. Hence the call to avoid. But you are right - cobalt is not one of those toxic materials - not that you want it in drinking water supplies.
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If need be, order a battery not made of Lithium Colbalt. The Cobalt part is Cancerous, get a Lithium Iron battery instead.
And get half the battery life, no thank you.
I know that LiFePO4 batteries (probably what you are talking about) have many advantages, including better safety, higher charge/discharge currents and longer life
However, the low energy density is too much of a tradeoff. Especially since safety is a one-in-a-million risk (of fire, cancer is insignificant) if you buy good batteries, that the phone cannot take advantage of these high currents and replacing a removable battery after 3 years is cheap and easy.
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Are these low end BLU phones waterproof? Any of them? IS there a phone out there that has removeable batteries AND is waterproof/resistant? Do BLU phones have the features? No? Then shaddup .. this MUST HAVE removable battery thing is getting tiresome.
Just great. (Score:2)
Apple Hikes Order Volume For iPhone 7 Parts ...
Okay it's way louder, but can't hear it 'cause no compatible headphones...
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No iPhone 7 for me (Score:2)