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Smartwatch Shipments Fall For the First Time; Apple Only Company In Top 5 To Decline (venturebeat.com) 129

Emil Protalinski, reporting for VentureBeat: The smartwatch market has hit its first bump, and it's all Apple's fault. Vendors shipped a total of 3.5 million smartphones worldwide last quarter. This Q2 2016 figure is down 32 percent from the 5.1 million units shipped in Q2 2016, marking the first decline on record. It's important to note that smartwatches are just a subcategory of the larger wearable market. As such, these figures don't count basic bands sold by companies like Fitbit. Apple is thus the undisputed leader, even after the losses it saw in Q2 2016, and it could easily see a return to growth with the release of Watch OS 2.0. Apple's market share decreased 25 percentage points (from 72 percent to 47 percent) and it shipped less than half the smartwatches (1.6 million). But the company still holds almost half the market, with every other vendor shipping fewer than a million units.
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Smartwatch Shipments Fall For the First Time; Apple Only Company In Top 5 To Decline

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  • by FunkSoulBrother ( 140893 ) on Thursday July 21, 2016 @11:25AM (#52554405)

    These always struck me as a fad waiting to die, but I'm not trying to be the usual Slashdot curmudgeon, so I'll ask: what are the killer features of a smart watch?

    The best my buddy could come up with who bought an Android one was some mumbling about how its more socially acceptable to glance at texts on your wrist, than to take your phone out.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Also more convenient than taking your phone out, especially when doing other things. If you've got home automation products, you can use them when you leave your phone in another room. It also fills the role of a fitness tracker. Just like the first good smartphones replaced the MP3 player most of us carried, the smartwatch combines functions of other devices and puts them in one spot.

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by AuMatar ( 183847 )

        My phone combines other devices and puts them in one spot- with a screen big enough to use and small enough to put in my pocket. Putting it on my wrist adds 0 functionality, increases the likelihood it will break, is uncomfortable, and makes it much harder to write a decent UI for. The first thing I did when I realized my first cell phone told the time was throw out my watch.

        • by hey! ( 33014 )

          You missed the point. For most people's its not about adding functionality, it's about adding convenience. Doing the same things you could do with a phone, but with less bother. If you receive a lot of phone calls, most of which you ignore, or if (like me) you tend to put a lot of notifications in your calendar, a smartwatch adds a considerable level of convenience, although obviously you *could* haul your phone out of your pocket a dozen times a day, look at it then put it back. If you have to check

          • by AuMatar ( 183847 )

            Putting it on my wrist doesn't add convenience, it detracts from it- you're forcing me to use a tiny display with unusably small text. Taking my phone out of my pocket takes 0 effort. It provides literally a negative benefit and makes the experience worse. That's why sales are plummeting.

            ANd no, I don't think a watch is more convenient even for telling time. I'd rather have a compact device in my pocket and not have to remember putting on a watch, or deal with the discomfort of wearing one. A phone be

            • by hey! ( 33014 )

              I think you think the text is too small because you haven't actually used one. I have, and I'm almost 60 years old and need bifocals. I generally can't read ingredients on food or vitamin packages without glasses, but I have no difficulty whatsoever with reading calendar notifications or caller ID on a smartwatch without glasses. Would I want to read a book or webpage on one? Nope. But for notifications the text size is plenty big for me, and I have weaker-than-average eyesight.

              Likewise it's not particu

    • I'd like to know the answer as well; short of the "neat" factor, what's the appeal of having a "smart" device on your wrist with a tiny screen that you have to worry about keeping charged?

      • I said the same thing of smart phones when they first came out. Why would anyone want a small phone screen when they can have a large monitor or laptop? I was wrong.

        I love my smart watch. I am one generation behind because that makes it in my price range.

        Reasons I like it:
        * Being able to read and respond to texts discreetly
        * People able to see who is calling by simply looking at my watch
        * Fitness tracker (I know it's not exact but it still helps me set goals to beat)
        * Helps me keep track of my phone (it

        • The only thing that interests me is the fitness tracker, and I'm not willing to spend more than 50 bucks to get something like that.

          I'm probably the outlier. I have been in the past, although notably, not with smart phones. I recall disappointment with RIM, then with Apple, at the offerings. It wasn't until android phones actually started providing cost effective phones that I bought into them.

          But I remember everyone getting excited about itanium and thinking, "This is shit. Why is everyone worked up ab

    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      by TheRaven64 ( 641858 )

      I think that they're a fad in the same way that 1990s smartphones were a fad: the technology to build good ones doesn't exist yet. A watch needs to have a battery that lasts long enough that I never accidentally forget to charge it and end up with it not working (my current one is on its second battery and the first one lasted about 5 years) and be light enough that I don't notice that I'm wearing it. I have both of those from a Skagen watch, but if I could keep those requirements then I'd find it very us

    • by quetwo ( 1203948 )

      I have a Moto360. For me, in addition to showing the time and date, it acts as a fitness tracker, a voice control for my phone, and a great way to look at the weather when my phone is in my pack when I'm biking (a realtime weather map is useful when biking home).

      Indoors, it is a stylish timepiece, no different than any other watch. It does have the added advantage of allowing me to peek at incoming messages when I'm not in a situation where I can break out my phone.

    • The best my buddy could come up with who bought an Android one was some mumbling about how its more socially acceptable to glance at texts on your wrist, than to take your phone out.

      If somoene want to be more 'socially acceptable' then how about not reading texts at all in social situations, how about people, I dunno, pay attention to the people they're with, rather than retreating into their smartphones like some 12-year old who is bored with the adults' after-dinner conversation?

      • If somoene want to be more 'socially acceptable' then how about not reading texts at all in social situations, how about people, I dunno, pay attention to the people they're with, rather than retreating into their smartphones like some 12-year old who is bored with the adults' after-dinner conversation?

        I can tell you've never worked in a position that required being on call.

    • by T.E.D. ( 34228 )
      1. I'm a watch person, so I'd be buying a watch either way.
      2. If I get a phone call or text while driving, I don't have to pull over to check to see if its safely ignored (the typical scenario), or something I'll get in big trouble if I ignore until I'm at my destination (always possible with the spousal unit).
      3. I never have to set the time
      4. I can change the face look to suit the occasion, rather than having to purchase multiple watches for the purpose. So its like I have a whole drawer of watches to chose from, bu
    • > what are the killer features of a smart watch?

      For me, fitness training. It tracks distance, heart rate, and calculates calories burned based on the workout, heartrate, age, and weight. I previously tried a vivofit but it sucked. It tracked only steps throughout the day, and was highly inaccurate.

      I also use my smartwatch for sleep tracking, because I tend to be a night owl and am trying to correct that. The vivofit did track sleep very well but my primary goal is tracking fitness and for that the vivo

    • by Aaden42 ( 198257 )

      Reasons I've *thought* about getting an Apple Watch but haven't yet:

      * No camera. There are places where it's not acceptable to wave a camera around, but where the watch notification would be enough to tell you whether you need to step outside to follow up or not. Also convenient for ... wait for it... checking the time without having to pull out your camera. (Crazy talk, I know)
      * "Buzz" differentiation: My phone vibrates in my pocket. Was that a "cliuck ehre for freez viagrass!!" email, or something I

    • These always struck me as a fad waiting to die, but I'm not trying to be the usual Slashdot curmudgeon, so I'll ask: what are the killer features of a smart watch?

      The best my buddy could come up with who bought an Android one was some mumbling about how its more socially acceptable to glance at texts on your wrist, than to take your phone out.

      Killer features would differ from people to people, but this is what I'd love to see assuming the technology were to exist at an affordable price (affordable price, subjective, I know):

      e-mail/sms/jabber/slack/infrastructure-devops notifications (be them sound or vibration) - if I need to reply I pull my phone or go to a computer, but at least I'd like to be notified without me having to pull my phone to read (yes, affordable laziness is bliss.)

      fitbit-like capabilities to monitor my physical activity an

    • I'll give one management schmuck's experience with my apple watch.

      I got it about a year ago as a toy. Expecting nothing. However, somewhere around 4ish months ago when I went on a trip to south america without it, how much I missed it. And realized that dumb watches were just... dumb. For me.

      Again, I'm a people leader in IT. My day is meetings, email, and texts. For that, having a glance and quick canned reply to texts and emails while I'm sitting in meetngs with VPs is a lot less disruptive than pulling ou

    • I've got a Pebble Time Steel and the killer app for me is Music Boss. It lets me control my music player from my wrist instead of having to pull a phone from my pocket and key in the password every time I want to change tracks. Album art and track info is displayed on the watch face. Very handy when commuting on a crowded train.

      I have also found the sleep and step tracking more useful than I would have imagined. The tracking may not be entirely accurate, but seeing the trends has motivated me to change

    • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

      These always struck me as a fad waiting to die, but I'm not trying to be the usual Slashdot curmudgeon, so I'll ask: what are the killer features of a smart watch?

      The best my buddy could come up with who bought an Android one was some mumbling about how its more socially acceptable to glance at texts on your wrist, than to take your phone out.

      Easy, you don't need to use two hands to see your texts or make phone calls.

      In certain markets, bigger is better, so people are buying gigantic phones that are impossi

    • These always struck me as a fad waiting to die, but I'm not trying to be the usual Slashdot curmudgeon, so I'll ask: what are the killer features of a smart watch?

      I mean, there aren't any. And that's OK. There aren't any killer features to tablets either, but we have them too. They are marginally useful, and I have one. If I lost it I would probably replace it eventually, but it's not like I have a backup like I do my smartphone...

      For what it's worth, it is marginally useful to me:
      1. When the phone rings, it buzzes on my wrist, which is far more reliable to notice than a vibrate / ring happening in my pocket while walking. I'm more likely to notice / catch the call w

    • by Win0ver ( 613215 )
      The only reason I have a Pebble Time Round is to be able to quickly glance at my wrist to know if it's worth it to take out my phone.

      It may seem like a useless luxury but on busy 15+ hours work days where I have to use walkie-talkie and receive emails, sms, and calls practically every 4-5 minutes while trying to decrypt people's complaints in the walkie, it does make my job slightly easier.

      I understand that few people have a need for it. It's basically just a 'phone notifications on your wrist' device.
    • I like my Apple Watch (the Sport - read "inexpensive" - model). I like having notifications on my wrist, because it's a lot less disruptive to make a quick glance at my arm than to pull out my phone. Don't underestimate the convenience of seeing your next scheduled appointment at a glance! I also really enjoy the activity tracking. I used to have a Jawbone UP but I had to send it back several times for repairs; it wasn't up to the rigors of my Desktop Warrior lifestyle. My watch (plus a couple of third-part

    • For me: looking at the wrist is easier than taking out the phone. I can easily tell if a notification is important enough for me to take out the phone or not, saving me a step. Secondary function is to monitor heart rate/calorie consumption, which may not matter to the average /. user who sits in front of a computer all day. I'll easily pay $100 for a device that does this.

    • Not just socially acceptable, but easier to actually multitask. Also more readily accessible, and often better single-armed use.

      For me, killer app is airline boarding passes. Going through security, my phone can be packed away already, and the watch goes through the metal detector. Payments are great too, often being faster than chip-and-pin. Fitness apps are nice too, along with stock ticker and temperature on watch face.

      It is an expense most people can easily do without, but I love mine and look forward

    • by q4Fry ( 1322209 )

      There is always one of these posts for every story about wearables. I put money down for an original Pebble on Kickstarter (that I still wear) because I commuted by train from an outdoor stop. The trains are sometimes delayed, and I want to see their status (which I scraped at the time from a public API) in the winter without taking my gloves off to dig around in my pocket for my phone.

      I have a hackable wrist computer I bought for a hundred bucks. It doesn't have a lot of screen, CPU, or memory, but I can d

    • I'll at least chime in with the things I do on my Apple Watch. I've had it since launch (so about 1.5 years) and I've worn it every day. Here are the things I use it for in decreasing order with the number times I use it for that activity daily:

      1. Time (might be obvious, but I didn't wear a watch before this... so I really didn't know if I cared to have the time on my wrist. Turns out it's crazy convenient!)

      2. Weather. I have the current temperature, the forecast for the next 6 hours and a notificatio

    • These always struck me as a fad waiting to die

      They will be fine and I will have one when they are an order of magnitude more power efficient, are one quarter the volume, and have batteries with twice the power density.

  • by bazmail ( 764941 ) on Thursday July 21, 2016 @11:27AM (#52554425)
    Nobody is buying these things. Nobody.
    • by Mashiki ( 184564 )

      Pretty much. The local walmart(Ontario, Cdn) here has an Apple Store section with all their junk. In the year that it's been available they've sold 1 apple watch. The store management and area management can't even see a reason to have more then 2 in stock and took a different approach. If the product isn't available in store, they'll have it next day with a 13% discount(basically knocking the tax off).

  • Pebble? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by doconnor ( 134648 ) on Thursday July 21, 2016 @11:30AM (#52554451) Homepage

    I'm surprised Pebble is not on the list. Maybe its because they sell most of their watches direct from their website and through KickStarter which isn't covered by this report.

    • by Lumpy ( 12016 )

      it's because pebble's numbers decimate all the others combined.

    • Both my pebbles were purchased off the shelf at BestBuy (because BestBuy ran them on sale way cheaper than you could get them direct).

      James

  • How long has the smart watch market been a thing? I can't imagine it has been too terribly long and it's already declining. The phone as an everything device is pretty firmly embedded in the consciousness of the populace. These other devices like smart watches and to a lesser extent, the tablet will most likely die off if they cannot come up with a reason to have it more than it's just more convenient than the phone. The phone is pretty damn convenient.
    • It's even more basic than that: these reports base on the idea that all products are constantly bought, and ignore durable goods. So a new product comes out, everyone in the freaking world buys one, and then everyone has one; because the product doesn't wear out in a year, 10% as many people buy them next year, and suddenly you have headlines about how it's a dead product nobody buys anymore.

      This happens with things like smart phones as the market matures. Across 10 years we went from 516MHz 256MB RAM

  • What? No pebble? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by bernywork ( 57298 ) <.bstapleton. .at. .gmail.com.> on Thursday July 21, 2016 @11:44AM (#52554591) Journal

    One of the biggest sellers of smart watches is Pebble and they aren't there?

    If they're in decline, it's only because the Pebble 2 is going to get released soon and everybody is waiting for it.....

    • If they're in decline, it's only because the Pebble 2 is going to get released soon and everybody is waiting for it.....

      Which is also likely why the Apple Watch is in decline...september is coming.

      • If they're in decline, it's only because the Pebble 2 is going to get released soon and everybody is waiting for it.....

        Which is also likely why the Apple Watch is in decline...september is coming.

        Exactly.

    • From looking at people's wrists, the Apple Watch is the most common device I see in Toronto.

  • I had an opportunity to try a smart watch for a few weeks. It was nifty, but compared to some of my more antique time pieces from the 40s and 50s it couldn't hold a candle in terms of style.

    I agree with the other guy, this is the end of the mobile OS bonanza. Smart watches won't be the next "new thing" no matter how much Sillycon Valley wants it to be.

  • There are no low end devices, no $150 ones don't count. Where is the model that simply mirrors notifications, tells time, lasts at least 24 continuous hours, and will pass voice and audio for a call over BT for 50 bucks?

    Oh, no one has made that yet. It seems this is another market where you can't buy a basic version. Cars cost what they do now because there is almost no basic one, and is also why I don't have any desire to own one currently.

    Stop trying to make it more and more "useful" while driving the pri

    • by Lumpy ( 12016 )

      "There are no low end devices, no $150 ones don't count."

      The Pebble does count and is a fantastic smartwatch that is the most refined and the only one with a good battery life.

      You should check out the oldest smartwatch maker and actually use their devices before you claim they dont count.

      • The original poster is asking for something low end, and doesn't consider $150 as low end. A pebble at $50 would be nice (and that's what I paid for one of mine on sale)

      • "You should check out the oldest smartwatch maker"

        You mean the Palm-OS based Fossil [wikipedia.org] or the ones that appeared before?

    • I want the opposite - I have a Samsung Gear S2 Classic and am thinking about either buying the 3G version of it, or the nextgen version of it (I wish they would include a speaker as well as mic on the non-3G version). I want the built-in speaker and cell connection and added functionality. Its primary use for me is fitness tracking (I've owned a Vivofit and it sucked, and the Fitbit I tried was almost as inaccurate and limited) and I find it is very accurate in its tracking my workouts and steps throughout

    • by Nemyst ( 1383049 )
      You can get the OG Pebble for $90 when it's on sale, sometimes a bit less. That's pretty close to what you're looking for, and it comes with 7 days of battery life, water resistance, always-on screen and a lot of control features on top of a pretty lively app ecosystem. No mic or speaker though (microphone is on the Time, speakers would be irrelevant since most people have headphones these days).
  • by JawzX ( 3756 )

    /youdon'tsay.jpg

    Smartwatches: the most useless product yet to be bouyed into semi-relevance by the Apple Hype-train.

  • They need to figure out how to make a smartwatch that is whole-room charging or automatic. That is, you never have to plug it in.

    My biggest issue with smartwatches is having to charge them. They need to figure out how to make it charge while you are wearing it in the car or sitting in a cafe.

  • iWatch sales are slowing, other smart watch sales are growing. So this means that people realized the Apple product sucks as badly as most Apple products. But that people like the other smart watches as their volumes are still growing. So instead of yet another "smartwatch market is doomed" article, it should be "apple watch sucks, smart watch sales from other manufacturers continue to grow" unfortunately as so many stupid reporters try to link the 2 together, the horrible apple watch experience is being us

  • Well, that didn't take long. The concept strikes me as gimmicky, like google glass. I like the idea of a programmable watch that you can customize the functions on, but one can't expect much from it, and it shouldn't cost much. I don't wear a watch, and if I did there is very little you could put into one that would interest me. Even a basic calculator was never particularly practical, as the form factor is just too small. Here's an idea: just build in a dumb flash drive, accessible via bluetooth. That wou
  • I don't want it to be tied to a smartphone and have short
    battery lives. I will stick with my old school Casio Data Bank watches. :P

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