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iPhone 7 To Start at 32GB Storage, Says WSJ (time.com) 235

An anonymous reader writes: It appears Apple has finally decided to do something about the not-so-enough 16GB storage on its base iPhone model. According to a report on WSJ, the Cupertino-based company's next smartphone -- expected to be named iPhone 7 will have 32GB internal storage on the base model.For years, Apple has offered a 16GB iPhone version for those who were on a budget or just didn't necessarily need too much storage. But as we moved forward -- the iPhone got better cameras and improved video recording capability and apps became more sophisticated and ate more storage -- we really reached a point where 16GB wasn't enough for most people. In many cases, people were unable to update their iPhone to the latest version of iOS because there wasn't enough storage left on the device. It's a welcome move, and something millions of people will appreciate.
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iPhone 7 To Start at 32GB Storage, Says WSJ

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  • by xystren ( 522982 ) on Wednesday July 06, 2016 @10:30AM (#52456397)
    And let the consumer decide how much memory they want/need? Ohh, wait, that's not the Apple way. Silly me.
    • by ilsaloving ( 1534307 ) on Wednesday July 06, 2016 @11:24AM (#52456817)

      Having used android devices with SD Card slots, I will never again consider an SD card slot to be a worthwhile feature. Not being able to offload applications was a big one. Having to play games like "Where the f__k is my data?" was another.

      The hoops you had to go through to work with the things was just awe inspiring, and even then they didn't work reliably. I'd rather pay the premium and get more internal storage to begin with. At least then I know what to expect.

      I understand that the most recent versions of android deal with external storage in a much more sane way, but that doesn't mean much when said versions of android have 10% penetration despite having been out for over a year.

      • All I remember running into is plugging in to charge and my SD storage was gone. Change USB plug in settings and never had a problem.

      • Most of those just sound like bad implementation on the fault of Android. I have a Windows phone and I have no problem putting apps on the SD card. Android used to have this feature and for some stupid reason they removed it. I don't really have a problem finding my data, just like I don't have a problem finding data on my desktop PC or Laptop which have much more complicated needs for managing my files.

        • Android used to have this feature and for some stupid reason they removed it

          And yet it still exists on every phone I've used recently including my own running Lollipop and my partner's running Marshmallow.

      • Why woulkd you never again consider an SD card when you already acknowledged that Android deals with the issue in a much saner way today (http://source.android.com/devices/storage/adoptable.html)? That's like saying you'll never drive a car again because people died 65 years ago before the invention of the seatbelts.
      • Sounds like an OS problem, not hardware.
        • Sounds like a user problem. Move to SD card is a feature in Android. Maybe sounds like a crap phone from a crap vendor problem.

      • Not being able to offload applications was a big one

        Errr there's a lovely button next to every application listed call "Move to SD card". The only applications you couldn't do that were the core system image applications.

        But what interests me more than you complaining about an issue which isn't an issue is the thought that this was an all or nothing approach. Why not just get both. Refuse to load your silly overside applications on your SD card and use it to store video, images, sync with your cloud of choice etc.

        I'm never again buying a phone without an SD

      • Ditto x10. This is the exact problem I have with my previous SD-enabled Android phone. The SD memory is treated as a secondary storage with bunch of limitations. What I find unhelpful is the way Android manages files - they're just everywhere. Not sure where to look for what, how the storage gets eaten up by who....etc.
    • It's not only Apple. My Nexus from Google doesn't have a memory slot either. Why!?

      • It's not only Apple. My Nexus from Google doesn't have a memory slot either. Why!?

        You got sent the one without the slot because you are on the "don't slot list". You probably dropped you phone in the toilet while in a drunken stupor at some point in the past (that's how most people end up on the "don't slot list").

  • They used to offer 4GB and 8GB models too, the 16GB was actually the highend model a few years back.
    Storage capacities increase, not really news...

    • by Teckla ( 630646 )

      They used to offer 4GB and 8GB models too, the 16GB was actually the highend model a few years back.
      Storage capacities increase, not really news...

      I think the news is that it took Apple so long to increase the storage on their entry level iPhones to something resembling reasonable.

    • I'm somewhat surprised that they would upgrade it though. Typically, the base model is there so they can claim an entry price of $699.99 or free with contract, but it has something like the low storage that makes it unappealing enough that they can get a lot of users to buy the $100 upgrade which costs Apple an extra $4 in component costs if that, which is another $96 in profit. Do that a few million times and you'll need a bigger pool to have the afternoon money fights in.

      The real question is whether or
      • Most people probably don't need 128 GB

        You've obviously never met people who never take any pictures/video off their phone. There are more of them than you'd expect.

  • I assume they need to remove the headphone socket to make way for all those RAMs.

  • Apple! Apple! Apple!
    iPhone! iPhone!...
    PHEH!
    Who am I fooling here, the cult just hasn't had their heart in it since Dear Leader ascended to a higher plane, abandoning us this vale of tears.


    Elon! Elon! Elon!
    Spaceship! Spaceship! Spaceship!!!
  • So, it will have 32GB of storage. Every generation has increased storage capabilities. The only reason this is important for iPhone users is the phone is stuck with the amount it had when purchased. What would be exciting news is if the new iPhone let the user add there own storage. User replaceable battery would be newsworthy, too.

    • by D.McG. ( 3986101 )
      The problem with removable SD cards is the performance.

      Samsung's latest EVO Plus 256 GB microSDXC card is capable of 95 MB/s read and 90 MB/s write (Class 10 U3 rating). Compare that to their PM971-NVMe [anandtech.com] which can store up to 512 GB of data and offers up to 1500 MB/s read and 900 MB/s write. 10-15 times faster. Only catch is it must be soldered on; due to the high pin count BGA.
      • The removable storage would be in addition to what was built into the phone. Storing pictures, music, etc. wouldn't be a problem at 95MB read.

  • by tommeke100 ( 755660 ) on Wednesday July 06, 2016 @10:42AM (#52456481)
    A quick search reveals that 16 GB flash is like 2$ on Alibaba, and that's as an USB stick. This is like a 1$ manufacturing cost for Apple. Big Deal!
    • Re:16 GB flash is 2$ (Score:5, Informative)

      by Aaden42 ( 198257 ) on Wednesday July 06, 2016 @10:48AM (#52456517) Homepage

      Flash *does* come in more than one grade, interface type, speed, etc. The crap(*) they put on a $2 USB stick isn’t the same thing that’s in even a cheap smartphone. If you don’t believe there’s a difference, buy a cheap micro-SD card and a good one, then compare benchmarks. You’ll easily see 5-10x increase in throughput on the good one.

      (*) And that’s even assuming you’re getting an actual 16 GB module instead of a counterfeit with 2 GB of actual flash and a controller reprogrammed to make it look like 16 GB.

      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        Sure, but the stuff they put in an iPhone doesn't cost more than a tiny fraction of what they charge for it. And they could easily provide an SD card for data only, where speed isn't that important.

        Any way you look at it, this is just customer-hostile gouging.

        • by Aaden42 ( 198257 )
          Clearly their customers (self included) disagree. The number of co-workers I've heard complaining about the SD slot on their phones flaking out after a few months makes me content to pay a little extra for soldered on flash. I'm willing to pay for good UX.
    • by drinkypoo ( 153816 ) <drink@hyperlogos.org> on Wednesday July 06, 2016 @10:49AM (#52456525) Homepage Journal

      A quick search reveals that 16 GB flash is like 2$ on Alibaba, and that's as an USB stick.

      Do us a favor, buy one and test its actual capacity, and then get back to us so we can have a good giggle.

  • by CaseyB ( 1105 ) on Wednesday July 06, 2016 @10:44AM (#52456493)

    It's inspiring to see that Apple can still Think Different, and radically reinvent its products generation over generation. Who could have predicted such a groundbreaking development?

  • by _xeno_ ( 155264 ) on Wednesday July 06, 2016 @10:50AM (#52456535) Homepage Journal

    You know what I'd like even more?

    A removable memory card slot. Wait, it's Apple, so if I say that we'd end up with iMemoryStick. I mean a microSD card slot.

    If Apple is going to pretend that their phones double as cameras and throw in things like 4K video support, they should have removable media support. No photographer is going to use a camera without removable media. (Or field-replaceable batteries, but that's a different issue.)

    • by __aaclcg7560 ( 824291 ) on Wednesday July 06, 2016 @11:04AM (#52456635)

      No photographer is going to use a camera without removable media.

      What does that have to do with iPhones? A photographer will use the right tool for the job, which presumably would be a camera with different lenses, battery packs and memory cards.

      • by _xeno_ ( 155264 ) on Wednesday July 06, 2016 @11:26AM (#52456845) Homepage Journal

        What does that have to do with iPhones? A photographer will use the right tool for the job, which presumably would be a camera with different lenses, battery packs and memory cards.

        Agreed. But if you ever watch any of Apple's keynotes about their phones, they always inevitably contain a section where they gush about the camera and show pictures shot "by a professional photographer" with the phone.

        Apple loves to pretend that their phones are totally amazing cameras that can completely replace that DSLR the pros use.

        • so you connect the phone by usb to a computer and get the photo off? or use some cloud syn service?
        • But if you ever watch any of Apple's keynotes about their phones, they always inevitably contain a section where they gush about the camera and show pictures shot "by a professional photographer" with the phone.

          Professional photographers would recognize the limitations of using the iPhone for photography. Only amateur photographers who can't afford a decked out DSLR would whine that the iPhone wasn't a decked out DSLR.

          • If you just buy the cheap $200 Android phone that works perfectly fine as a phone, like the MotoG, then you could spend the remaining $500 and get a DSLR Camera [amazon.com]. Not just the camera, but just about everything you need to start taking really good pictures.

            • If you just buy the cheap $200 Android phone that works perfectly fine as a phone, like the MotoG, then you could spend the remaining $500 and get a DSLR Camera.

              My current iPhone was $200 with case and screen protector. Since I'm not a professional photographer, I'm not going to spend $500 on a DSLR. The people I know who are professional photographers own $1,000+ DSLRs.

              • How did you manage to get an iPhone for $200? Either you're paying the carrier more than you should be every month, or you bought a used one off somebody else. Even getting last generation's model of iPhone or the iPhone SE is going to cost quite a bit more than $200.

                • How did you manage to get an iPhone for $200? Either you're paying the carrier more than you should be every month, or you bought a used one off somebody else.

                  The $200 is what I paid upfront for the iPhone and accessories on a two-year-contract. Being a Sprint customer for 20+ years and that I kept my last phone for three years probably helped.

          • The funny thing is that a good photographer could take better picture with iPhone than average user with SLR.
        • by Immerman ( 2627577 ) on Wednesday July 06, 2016 @11:59AM (#52457145)

          Heck, why exactly do you suppose they gush about the "professional photographer" aspect? It's actually a disclaimer covered in glitter - professionals are the only ones who could coax such a nice picture out of it.

      • right but when you can fill a gig up in a matter of minutes now adays, removable would be nice even for the non professional
    • by dfghjk ( 711126 )

      "No photographer is going to use a camera without removable media."

      BS.

      Phones are viable for some photographer work and "photographers" use them. These phone are not limited to removable media varieties, a feature that enjoys far less success than forum posters would like you to believe.

  • Well, never mind that a lot of big companies use the things as on-call, etc, devices and those don't need a lot of storage for personal snapshots and movies. The really wierd part is the bit about "millions of people will appreciate". Can't they have just bought their current model with more memory? The fact that they didn't says the exact opposite; "millions of people won't get a new one because the lower memory model was the one in their budget" ?

    • Never mind, there must be special versions for corporate purchases; this model 6 my employer gave me says its capacity is 12GB, never mind the 16 the summary is complaining about.

  • ...if they put the extra 16GB of RAM into the spot where the headphone jack used to be...

    Now I have twice the MP3s I can't hear! w00t!

  • Someone at Apple must have realized that it wouldn't look good when competitors were to have more RAM than iPhone would have in storage Flash. (OnePlus 3 having 6G, likely to start a race to the top)

    So Yes, it was time to raise the minimum amount of storage.

  • Will they do the convenient size model skip that they usually do? I.e. they skip 64 Gb this time around so if you have a 64Gb phone you will have to go to 128 Gb or delete all kinds of stuff till you get down to 32Gb? They have done this like 4 times.
  • I was pissed that the only options for the iPhone SE was 16 and 64. It struck me as a cheap cash grab.

    Wasn't pissed enough to not get one, mind you. But it was still annoying. Of course, it wouldn't be an issue if current apps weren't so breathtakingly bloated.

    I mean, Facebook alone, with it's separate client and messenger apps, can easily hit a *gigabyte* all on their own. I can't even fathom how breathtakingly badly you have to code something to end up needing that much space.

    So I am making due by con

  • "became more sophisticated and ate more storage"

    I think you meant to say that Apps are more poorly written today, and thus take more storage.

  • How does it matter what is the lowest storage? What should matter is highest storage because that is the real limitation. iPhone already offers 128 GB which is more than most latest Android phones and definitely more than any cell phone which was available at the time of iPhone 6 was released. No one is forcing anyone to buy 16 GB but the fact that people buy tells that there are lots of people for whom it is not worth extra money for extra storage.

    Android and Windows have 32 GB because many of them come wi

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