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LibreOffice Now Available On Apple's Mac App Store 132

sfcrazy writes: It's an event of historical magnitude: One of the most popular Open Source projects, LibreOffice, is now available directly from Apple's Mac App Store. You can get LibreOffice on OSX with automatic updates, long-term maintenance, and optional professional support, for the first time. There are two editions of LibreOffice available on the Mac App Store: LibreOffice from Collabora and LibreOffice Vanilla. While the Vanilla edition can be downloaded free of cost, LO from Collabora has a price tag of $10. "Free through the App store" is an implicit endorsement that plain old "free" can't beat, even taking open-source licensing out of the picture.
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LibreOffice Now Available On Apple's Mac App Store

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  • Collabora? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by serviscope_minor ( 664417 ) on Thursday June 18, 2015 @11:44AM (#49937601) Journal

    Seems like Collabra basically ship more or less vanilla open office but you get professional support for your money and they might be more responsive to bugs you file or something. Not 100% sure.

    As for free through the App Store, well, I've had that thruogh my "apt" store (ho ho ho) for as long as LO has existed. Yet another leading innovation from the world of Linux :)

    • Honestly, who gives a damn?

      Now, instead of this being some exotic piece of open source software people aren't so sure of, suddenly it's become mainstream, available to a bunch of people who want stuff that works but don't care to build stuff from a kid, and just want to click the "make go now" button.

      So, your choice, be all smug that you've had it on Linux for a long time ... or be glad that Microsoft is going to keep losing money as more people switch to free software.

      Making it easier for more people to ge

      • stuff that works but don't care to build stuff from a kid,

        A kid? I've heard people say "fucking libreoffice" before, but I didn't realise that there was literally fucking involved. Building something from a kid sounds sound pretty extreme. I mean sure first you make the kid, then you thekid to make your software, but there's a 15 year lag between the first and second part.

        I jest but I really have no idea what they typo was meant to be!

        So, your choice, be all smug that you've had it on Linux for a long time

        • I jest but I really have no idea what they typo was meant to be!

          LOL, kit ... a kit. Damn typos.

          Why can't I be both a smug Linux user and glad that Micros~1 is losing money?

          It's unbecoming, and it's why the rest of the people don't want to hear about open source .. the smug douchebag factor is off-putting.

          I mean come on, this is slashdot. If it's not a place for smug Linux users then surely it has changed completely.

          Oh no, don't get me wrong ... intra-geek, smug is sort of de-rigeur and funny. It's just so

          • Oh sure, but we're on slashdot here.

            While I admit that I don't have the requisite great big bushy beard to be 100% true to the image, we are on, if not the spiritual home, at least a strong spiritual outpost of smug Linux users.

            If I encountered someone AFK, or, frankly on a less special interest forum, I would just point them to the app store rather than scoff about how Apple was so late to the party.

            Come to think of it I should scoff about how WYSWIG office tools are pathetic and you should pull texlive fr

            • While I admit that I don't have the requisite great big bushy beard to be 100% true to the image

              No, no ... the big bushy beard is for Big Iron UNIX people, Dungeon Masters, and lumbersexuals. The still-filling-in beard, goatee, or chinstrap is for the Linux people.

              Come to think of it I should scoff about how WYSWIG office tools are pathetic

              You can, I'm not so sure about should. Again, don't scare the normals. they spook easily.

              PS vim is the best editor.

              As long as it doesn't break any of the vi key sequen

              • No, no ... the big bushy beard is for Big Iron UNIX people, Dungeon Masters, and lumbersexuals. The still-filling-in beard, goatee, or chinstrap is for the Linux people.

                This chap seems pretty Linuxy these days

                https://upload.wikimedia.org/w... [wikimedia.org]

                As long as it doesn't break any of the vi key sequences, there's nothing worse than being almost vi.

                Well, you get GUI menus with vim if you run gvim, so that's better, right?

    • As for free through the App Store, well, I've had that thruogh my "apt" store (ho ho ho) for as long as LO has existed. Yet another leading innovation from the world of Linux :)

      I sincerely hope that the Smiley at the end of your sentence means that your stated "accomplishment" (hosting software on a web/ftp site) is meant to be tongue-in-cheek.

  • by dreamchaser ( 49529 ) on Thursday June 18, 2015 @11:47AM (#49937617) Homepage Journal

    If there will be in app purchases.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    This is "historic".
    I recommend that the people whose Macs I support only purchase software from Apple's Mac Store. This means that a very good office suite can be had through the Apple eco-system.
    This is very good news.

    (It also saves time for those who never update third-party software because updates will come through Apple Updates.)

    HooRay!

  • Perhaps you meant...EXTRAORDINARY magnitude.
    • by AthanasiusKircher ( 1333179 ) on Thursday June 18, 2015 @12:10PM (#49937731)

      Perhaps you meant...EXTRAORDINARY magnitude.

      No, TFS says "historical magnitude" just to refer to the fact that LibreOffice largely looks like Microsoft Office did over a decade ago.

      ;-)

      (P.S. I say this as a fan of LibreOffice....)

      • by Penguinisto ( 415985 ) on Thursday June 18, 2015 @12:59PM (#49938147) Journal

        You mean before they added that ribbon bullshit?

        Sign me up!

        (I already use LibreOffice too :) )

        • by MrL0G1C ( 867445 )

          Don't you find Libre Office to be incredibly buggy?

          Delete rows, crash, paste a table from the web, crash, click close, wait for save dialogue and it crashes instead!

          And conditional formatting was very broken last time I tried to use it a lot. And the charts are very lacking and horrible to work with - a bizarre UI maze mess. And Macros are weird, vague and over complicated.

          Maybe Open Office is better?

          • Don't you find Libre Office to be incredibly buggy?

            Delete rows, crash, paste a table from the web, crash, click close, wait for save dialogue and it crashes instead!

            And conditional formatting was very broken last time I tried to use it a lot. And the charts are very lacking and horrible to work with - a bizarre UI maze mess. And Macros are weird, vague and over complicated.

            Maybe Open Office is better?

            Personally, I think that this is the first step towards Apple taking over LibreOffice.

            This would be a Very Good Thing for everyone.

            Apple would most likely keep LibreOffice Libre, and OSS; but, like with so many of the F/OSS Projects they have either adopted, created, or taken-over, they would no doubt rather rapidly start to address the longstanding bugs that you mentioned above, and gradually elevate LibreOffice to being a true MSOffice competitor.

            I think Apple has actually been planning this for qui

      • Actually, I'd say I prefer the MS Office Suite from a decade ago.

        I too hate the ribbon. And I'm thinking hate is not strong enough of a word. I use this UI device as a handy example of what you should not do in a User Interface -- but likely, now that UI is a "professional field" nobody with common sense or aesthetics need apply. The interface is more important than your content, and you'd understand that if you were TRAINED.

        But we have to use the current MS Office, just like we have to use the current Adob

  • It's possible that these versions come bundled with less crapware than sourceforge versions [techgage.com]

    • More like probable... OSX apps from the App Store install w/o a wizard.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        The stock LibreOffice bundle from the Document Foundation also does not have an installer. Just your standard .dmg and drag-to-Applications kind of deal.

    • by LWATCDR ( 28044 )

      Yes. Apple does not like or allow crapware add on in the app store.

      • They provide their own crapware and tolerate no competition in that market.

        • They provide their own crapware and tolerate no competition in that market.

          Citaton, please?

          I have never seen a piece of software authored or distributed by Apple have any sort of extraneous bullshit, like has nearly ruined the software download world under Windows.

    • Almost anything is more trustworthy than Sourceforge these days.

      The direct downloads from the Document Foundation have always been crapware-free; you just have to click past a request for donations to get to them. Windows is the only platform that gets an installer; Mac has a .dmg like most Mac applications do. Linux has RPM and DEB versions, though most users get it from their distro's repositories instead.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    does it still require x? i'm too lazy to look. Yawn.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Open Office hasn't required it for years, and its successor LibreOffice never did.

  • If the Mac app store is anything like the iOS app store, it would be a GPL violation to put LibreOffice in there:

    https://www.fsf.org/blogs/lice... [fsf.org]

    • by hawaiian717 ( 559933 ) on Thursday June 18, 2015 @02:35PM (#49939025) Homepage

      That's fine and all. But it doesn't matter since LibreOffice is distributed under the Mozilla Public License 2.0, not GPL. http://www.libreoffice.org/dow... [libreoffice.org]

      I don't know offhand if there's a conflict between the App Store and MPL.

    • by jo_ham ( 604554 )

      Why would it be a GPL violation? LibreOffice isn't distributed under the GPL.

      Not to mention the fact that the iOS app store has been compatible with the GPL (V2 and earlier) for some time now, after complaints about this very issue - Apple changed the terms in response some time ago.

      Plus, the App Store on OS X is not like the iOS one - it downloads a bundle that you can run that can contain anything you like, including the full source code if you really want.

      • by jeremyp ( 130771 )

        It's distributed under the LGPL according to the Libre Office web site which is presumably the licence under which the version of OO from which was forked was distributed. The same issues should apply as with the GLP though.

  • Is this App Store version missing functionality? I checked the existing (manually installed) LibreOffice, and the Finder says: "616.2 MB". But the App Store says it's 213 MB.

    That's a pretty big difference in size. Can anyone explain?

  • The free LibreOffice Vanilla version on the App Store is "Prerelease" version 4.4.4.2 while the Collabora supported LibreOffice is the "Still" version 4.3.7.

    Collabora is not doing LibreOffice any favors by putting a version that is not ready for the mainstream out for public consumption. More likely, they're using the Vanilla as a means to drive people to their $10 version.

    Seems a bit underhanded.
  • My manually installed LibreOffice has a file size of 616.2 MB, or so Finder reports. I check out its page in the App Store, and it says "213 MB". Then I install that one, and on disk it now says 868.8 MB. Anybody knows why there are such large differences?

  • The free LibreOffice Vanilla is the "Prerelease" version 4.4.4.2 while the $10 LibreOffice-from-Collabora is "Still" version 4.3.7.

    Collabora isn't doing LibreOffice any favors by putting a prerelease version that is not ready for prime time out for public consumption. More likely, they are introducing the public to a buggy experience, and then offering to fix the experience using a non-prerelease version that costs $10.

    Seems a bit underhanded.
  • The fact that this is just happening now illustrates the fact that the app store model just doesn't work to bring you reasonable content. A walled garden is always still a walled garden.

    • The fact that this is just happening now illustrates the fact that the app store model just doesn't work to bring you reasonable content. A walled garden is always still a walled garden.

      That doesn't even begin to make sense.

      I'm pretty sure that Collabra, not Apple, decided when to submit LibreOffice to the Mac App Store.

      So, how does that make a "Walled Garden" argument?

      And besides, the Mac App Store (in stark contrast to the iOS App Store) is not, repeat not a "Walled Garden". it is simply a place to purchase (or in the case of Free software, simply download) OS X Applications that you can be reasonably sure are free from malware [apple.com], and which comply with certain "best practices" (sandb

  • has been on the Mac App Store for years. It trails OpenOffice development a bit, but incorporates lots of Mac specific tech, eg. it was Retina friendly first.

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