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Reactions to the New MacBook and Apple Watch 450

As the dust settles from Apple's press conference yesterday, there have been a broad variety of reactions around the web. Robinson Meyer at The Atlantic says Apple's $10,000 watch demonstrates the company has lost its soul. "The prices grate. And they grate not because they’re so expensive, but because they’re gratuitously expensive. ... To many commentators, this is unsurprising. It’s good business sense, really. Apple has made its world-devouring profits by ratcheting up profit margins on iPhones. There is no better target for these massive margins than the super-rich. But high margins do not a luxury brand make." Others suspect the high-end watches are targeted more at rich people in China.

As for the less expensive watches, perhaps they're around not so much to become a new major sales category for Apple, but rather to drive more iPhone sales. Meanwhile, the redesigned MacBook may signify a bigger change for the laptop industry than people realize: "We don’t need all those other ports, Apple says. We are living in a wireless world now, where we can connect most of our peripherals without cords." The new MacBook has also fueled speculation that Apple could be working on a more powerful tablet, something that could compete with Microsoft's Surface Pro line.
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Reactions to the New MacBook and Apple Watch

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  • wait, what? (Score:5, Funny)

    by roc97007 ( 608802 ) on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @06:19PM (#49228913) Journal

    > Apple could be working on a more powerful tablet, something that could compete with Microsoft's Surface Pro line.

    What, really? Apple is designing a table that is only ever seen on Hawaii Five-0?

    • Re:wait, what? (Score:5, Interesting)

      by mjwx ( 966435 ) on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @08:59PM (#49230183)

      > Apple could be working on a more powerful tablet, something that could compete with Microsoft's Surface Pro line.

      What, really? Apple is designing a table that is only ever seen on Hawaii Five-0?

      The strange and sad thing is, Surface Pro's are becoming more common in corporate environments because they're basically just Windows machines sans KB. So they're actually replacing laptops instead of pretending to replace laptops like Android and Apple Tablets.

  • No more ports! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by TJ_Phazerhacki ( 520002 ) on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @06:20PM (#49228923) Journal
    Imagine, a technology that would allow you to connect peripherals wirelessly. You know, like Bluetooth, which has been around since 1994. Look at how it dominates the peripheral industry! /sarcasm

    Look, my inherent dislike of AAPL (and the people who love it) died some time ago. The problem I have with them now is not the fault of the Company - it's the idiots who keep buying this stuff. Seriously, gold colored iPhones, solid gold tchotckes that are designed to be obsolete within 2 years - madness.

    • by nomel ( 244635 )

      Bluetooth was horribly implemented by most devices and use cases. 8 device limit (although, I've rarely seen anything that supports pairing with more than one), wasn't really usable as a data connection for iPhone since that required jumping through certifications hoops, many Android implementations were broken, and not much that has Bluetooth goes beyond audio.

      It could have been cool, but broken software stacks meant that nothing but the most basic profiles worked reliably and making something interesting

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward

      The problem with wireless is density.

      I can't use wireless mice, keyboards, speakers/headphones, wifi bridges, or anything else around here (there's more APs here than I can be bothered count, easily over 200) - the inteference is ridiculous, you literally can't even type of a wireless keyboard around here (CBD area).

      If that's the future Apple wants us to have, goodbye.

    • Exactly, if someone will pay $10k for a watch, and I know a lot of people with Rolex's, then why not an Apple watch? I'm sure Rolex is top-notch, but when you pay more than $100 for a watch you're paying for something beyond anything relating to keeping time. I hear all these crazy numbers about accuracy, but there is no practical value for that, you're really just buying a status symbol. So while the Apple watch does in fact do more than keep time, it's more or less irrelevant as you're paying for a label

      • Re:No more ports! (Score:5, Insightful)

        by drinkypoo ( 153816 ) <drink@hyperlogos.org> on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @11:12PM (#49230757) Homepage Journal

        Finally, and this should be obvious to slashdot, helping rich people part with their money is generally good for 99% of all other people.

        Nope. The money is being shuffled from moderately rich people to filthy rich people, and the workers are all being paid slave wages while the Apple corporation dodges taxes so they're not paying for wear and tear on our infrastructure. So actually, the world would be better off if Apple died in a fire.

  • "Apple could be working on a more powerful tablet, something that could compete with Microsoft's Surface Pro line.

    Perhaps because Microsoft sells tens of millions of tablets every quarter while nobody even knows Apple's tablets exist. Oh wait...

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @06:22PM (#49228937)

    another great comic from [chainsawsuit.com].

  • Normally, if you are a person who is inclined to blow $10k on a piece of jewellery, you would expect that you "investment" *won't* be obsolete in one year.
    • Normally, if you are a person who is inclined to blow $10k on a piece of jewellery, you would expect that you "investment" *won't* be obsolete in one year.

      But if you can afford $10K on a piece of chrome fluff, maybe you don't care.

    • by nomel ( 244635 )

      If you think a $10k piece of Jewelry is an investment, unless you plan on melting down the gold when prices are high or it's a collectors, then you are most likely not the type of person that could afford one. The friendly man behind the counter at the pawn shop can help explain the intricacies of jewelry pricing to you, and laugh when you claim "but I paid xxx!!!".

  • by Ichijo ( 607641 ) on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @06:38PM (#49229083) Journal
    ...when they made the memory in the new Mac Minis impossible to upgrade and reduced their performance [macworld.co.uk]. The late 2012 quad-core model is still the fastest, best one they ever made.
    • Yeah that was a complete step backwards.

      It is almost as if they DON'T want the Mac Mini to succeed !

    • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

      ...when they made the memory in the new Mac Minis impossible to upgrade and reduced their performance. The late 2012 quad-core model is still the fastest, best one they ever made.

      I agree about the RAM - that is stupid, however, the reason for the dual core is simple - Intel doesn't make the i7 in the required socket formfactor. The i5s and i7s used in the Mac Mini are the same socket, so it's a single design.

      So if Apple wanted to offer the i5 and i7, they had to either design two Mac Mini motherboards, one

      • The soldered RAM makes sense because they're using LPDDR3 memory (I think because of the Intel CPU models they're using) and AFAIK there's no LPDDR3 SODIMMs.

        But it still pisses me off to have to pay Apple's prices for RAM.

        If they at least made the Mac mini smaller, but nope. And when they do make it smaller, I'm pretty sure it will lose a lot of ports too, which means it's Hackintosh or nothing for my next computer.

  • by UnknownSoldier ( 67820 ) on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @06:48PM (#49229171)

    Back in the day Apple was about bringing computers to the masses, and simplifying them to make them accessible.

    Selling a $10K watch just proves Apple only cares about profits now.

    Apple has become the ultimate iHipster.

    • by Holi ( 250190 )
      Back in the day Steve Wozniak worked for Apple.
    • by Kjella ( 173770 )

      Back in the day Apple was about bringing computers to the masses, and simplifying them to make them accessible. Selling a $10K watch just proves Apple only cares about profits now. Apple has become the ultimate iHipster.

      What age was that? As far back as I can remember Macs were aiming for graphics artists, designers, sound artists, movie workstations, every kind of hip, creative industry. The "boring" segment bought PCs. There were nerdier and in many cases better audio players before the iPod, but the white earphones quickly became the telltale sign of a hipster. They've never ever released a cheap product trying to undercut others on price. They did have a runaway success with the iPhone but I think you're giving Jobs mo

    • Back in the day Apple was about bringing computers to the masses, and simplifying them to make them accessible.

      Back in the old days, Apple din't sell remotely as many computers as they do today. And that's only counting Macs, not iPads or iPhones.

  • Given the millions of other blogged words on this topic in the past 48hours, Slashdot now needs clickbait too?
  • by quintessentialk ( 926161 ) on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @07:00PM (#49229281)
    I don't know who said this, but I heard one commentator claim that the apple watch was not a smart watch, but a wearable computer. I thought this was apt because when I think of the apple watch as a 'watch' it isn't particularly compelling to me (and this is from someone who still wears a watch, and uses it to tell time). However, when I open up my vision to 'sky is the limit', yet-to-be-invented applications of a wearable computer, I'm more interested to see where this will go. As with the iPhone, the 'included with the first edition' features aren't as interesting as the 'invented by third parties and forced upon a reluctant Apple' (remember, native apps sold through an app store was not in Apple's original vision).
  • Is the new MacBook for you?

    Are you posting on Slashdot?
    If yes => NO!!

    If no => maybe

  • I had always thought that Apple price gouged on most of its products. This is just an example of trying to optimize the Apple tax.

  • "We donâ(TM)t need all those other ports, Apple says. We are living in a wireless world now, where we can connect most of our peripherals without cords."

    That statement alone should give some clue as to how out of touch Apple are with reality.

    I'm reminded of that every time I have to haul around an external optical drive for another enlightened Mac user.

    • by armanox ( 826486 )
      Oddly enough, it took me about a year to realize I hadn't hooked up the DVD drive in my desktop, and I don't remember the last time I used one in a laptop (with the exception of some really old ones I toy with sometimes, like my Thinkpad 600e since it doesn't support USB boot).
  • I just want a watch that has a cool face layout; if that means it has customizable TFT or e-ink, so be it.

    However, a smartwatch that is tied to the manufacturer's phone devices is crippled by definition. Apple, Samsung, Sony, whoever... I don't want any of their smartwatches.

    And we all know that when the next iOS comes out, it won't support these first gen iWatches.

  • by Trogre ( 513942 ) on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @07:20PM (#49229465) Homepage

    What a visionary innovation for Apple. A wrist watch that talks to your smartphone. It's amazing that no one [wikipedia.org] has thought of it before.

  • by JBMcB ( 73720 ) on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @07:29PM (#49229543)

    Because I don't think anyone should own something that expensive. And for some reason that sparks outrage.

    You see, I am the arbiter of utility. I decide what other people should and shouldn't buy, and what they should pay for it.

    Because I know more than them. I understand their needs and wants better than they do.

    If I can't afford something, nobody else should be able to buy it.

  • by SeaFox ( 739806 ) on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @08:01PM (#49229745)

    "We don’t need all those other ports, Apple says. We are living in a wireless world now, where we can connect most of our peripherals without cords."

    Try calling your ISP about your poor Internet speeds with your wireless-only laptop and see how far you get.

  • by seoras ( 147590 ) on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @08:42PM (#49230025)

    The value of anything isn't dictated by a formula e.g. (cost to build) + (reasonable margin) + (shipping/sales/etc)
    Value, or price, is what someone is prepared to pay for it.
    Apple obviously believes, guided by the likes of Angela Ahrendts, that $10k is a good starting price for a limited "edition" watch.

    This is Slashdot -"News for nerds" right?
    They aren't selling that watch to us, so quit the sniping and moaning.
    You could probably make your own 24ct gold watch out of the guts of a $349 entry level for less than an extra $1000.
    I'm certain there's foundries firing up right now rubbing heir hands at the prospect of scalping.

    As for the laptop.
    It's not for us either who are probably more advance IT users than the fashion followers who will love that gold 12" in their handbag or execs wanting the latest desktop bling.
    Horses for courses.

    I think I was a bit shocked at the optic drive being dropped from the original air but to be fair it was the right move in hindsight.
    This is history repeating itself so it shouldn't be as much of a shock.

    My only concern with that laptop is the loss of the mag-safe.
    Who remembers the broken MB's before mag-safe from folks tripping over them?
    We're more or less at the convergence point of laptop & tablet as of yesterday.
    Same number of ports and not much in screen size difference.
    How fast technology does change...

  • by Headw1nd ( 829599 ) on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @09:23PM (#49230341)

    So unlike Apple? Has everyone forgotten the 20th anniversary Mac? [wikipedia.org] Underpowered at its release, three times the price of a comparable Mac? C'mon people, I'm an unrepentant Apple user and I remember this - Apple making a really expensive version of something they have and selling to the rich is old hat.

    What might be interesting with these is the opportunity to use them as trendsetters - Jay-Z wears one for a month, a thousand lesser celebs wear them for the next couple years, then the $500 version hits the streets - with two years of data to improve the user experience and make it more integrated and useful.

  • by SuperKendall ( 25149 ) on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @11:46PM (#49230907)

    I don't see why people are getting in such a lather about this.

    The simple fact is the cheapest Apple Watch is every bit as functional as the most expensive one.

    If Apple had given greater function to a watch priced unreachably high to most everyone, I'd be right up there complaining. But I see nothing wrong with making limited versions of anything that is far cooler and costs more... geeks do this all the time with stuff like limited edition boxed sets of movies, special Star Wars figures, etc. A really expensive Apple Watch lives in that same realm of reason - it may not be for you, but if it makes someone happy what is the harm?

  • by DMJC ( 682799 ) on Wednesday March 11, 2015 @04:08AM (#49231721)
    I worked as a network admin inside a Jewellery store last year. I can tell you the iWatch is going to fail as a jewellery piece. Jewellery is about exclusivity, crazy engineering, and status. The iWatch fails too many of these points to matter. Another problem is it's a square faced watch. It falls under the traditional Women's timepiece category. They might sell a few, but it's not going to be the giant smash they are assuming it's going to be. Most jewellery store staff I showed it to thought the moto 360 looked much more like a men's watch. However even then they thought that their core client base would choose the traditional watches over the electronic ones. At the end of the day, Apple just isn't trying to compete with a hand cut $20,000 Grand Seiko watch. They are going to be laser cutting these things on a fabrication line. Works great for cheap electronics, not so much for exclusive high end luxury items.
  • Lower life forms (Score:4, Insightful)

    by ArcadeMan ( 2766669 ) on Wednesday March 11, 2015 @10:18AM (#49233167)

    Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the Western Spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small unregarded yellow sun.

    Orbiting this at a distance of roughly ninety-two million miles is an utterly insignificant little blue green planet whose ape-descended life forms are so amazingly primitive that they still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea.

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