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With Insider Help, ID Theft Ring Stole $700,000 In Apple Gift Cards 57

itwbennett writes The Manhattan District Attorney's office has indicted five people for using personal information stolen from around 200 people to fund the purchase of hundreds of thousands of dollars in Apple gift cards, which in turn were used to buy Apple products. "Using stolen information to purchase Apple products is one of the most common schemes employed by cybercrime and identity theft rings today," District Attorney Cyrus Vance said in a statement. "We see in case after case how all it takes is single insider at a company—in this instance, allegedly, a receptionist in a dentists' office—to set an identity theft ring in motion, which then tries to monetize the stolen information by purchasing Apple goods for resale or personal use," he said.
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With Insider Help, ID Theft Ring Stole $700,000 In Apple Gift Cards

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  • by TechyImmigrant ( 175943 ) on Friday February 06, 2015 @01:38AM (#48995877) Homepage Journal

    >We see in case after case how all it takes is single insider at a company—in this instance, allegedly, a receptionist in a dentists' office—to set an identity theft ring in motion, which then tries to monetize the stolen information by purchasing Apple goods for resale or personal use

    Those people can do that because of the horribly insecure payment methods the banks impose on everyone. If crime requires motive and opportunity, then it's the banks who are providing the opportunity.

    • >We see in case after case how all it takes is single insider at a company—in this instance, allegedly, a receptionist in a dentists' office—to set an identity theft ring in motion, which then tries to monetize the stolen information by purchasing Apple goods for resale or personal use

      Those people can do that because of the horribly insecure payment methods the banks impose on everyone. If crime requires motive and opportunity, then it's the banks who are providing the opportunity.

      What about them? They got screwed.

      What did payment systems have to do with this, it was identity theft and credit fraud. That they bought gift cards and high value electronics are just SOP with any scam like this.

      • by TechyImmigrant ( 175943 ) on Friday February 06, 2015 @02:14AM (#48995973) Homepage Journal

        Being able to take someone's money by taking plaintext credentials like social security numbers and the numbers written on the front of a card is exactly the fault of the banks.

        • by Insightfill ( 554828 ) on Friday February 06, 2015 @09:44AM (#48997327) Homepage

          Being able to take someone's money by taking plaintext credentials like social security numbers and the numbers written on the front of a card is exactly the fault of the banks.

          Exactly - as long as we continue to call it "Identity Theft" and not "Credit/Financial Fraud", it will have the perception of being the victim's problem and fault. If you get your car window smashed and things stolen out of your car, it's often perceived as partially your fault for where you parked, what you had exposed, etc. In the case of so-called "identity theft", the actual crime can be taking place miles away, and you may have no realistic way of preventing it. The bank has a problem - not me.

      • What about them? They got screwed.

        No, they didn't get screwed.

        The contract is written in such a way that it is always the merchants that take the financial hit for fraudulent charges, not the banks (even if the merchants themselves did everything correctly on their end).

        Also calling the receptionist at a dentist's office "an insider" is misleading. That kind of language was specifically designed for the banks to avoid taking responsibility for the fraud. It was not the dentist's office that was being ripped off, it was Apple. By that novel

    • Yes, it's almost scary to see a dentists' office clerk refered to as an "insider". From the headline I first thought it was an insider at Apple. But the clerk doesn't work for Apple or for any of the banks. He or she just happened to have access to some personal information. That makes an awful lot of "insiders" to be afraid of.

  • Why are so many people such jerks?

    • Ohh, you're reading Slashdot, and you are asking "so many" people are jerks? Really, you should pay more attention to what goes on here.

      Slashdot is jerk central. More jerks then you can shake a stick at. Being here means you have a 100% probability of seeing jerk behavior all the time. At this point you should expect people to be jerks. It's normal.

      All though this does not necessarily answer the question of why, it does show that this behavior is normal and should be expected. I hope this helps you out a

  • by ihtoit ( 3393327 ) on Friday February 06, 2015 @02:00AM (#48995943)

    when you fucking idiots are GIVING IT AWAY on your fucking Facebook accounts??

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) *

      What information to people post to Facebook that could result in this kind of fraud? I don't use Facebook so I'm curious to know. Do they post the details of their credit cards or something? Or is it just that the banks have ridiculously low authentication requirements?

      • by ihtoit ( 3393327 )

        Mothers maiden name: Facebook
        Date of birth: Facebook
        Pet's name: Facebook
        Name of last school you attended: Facebook
        Name of favourite teacher (you're probably still in touch with?): Facebook

        All I need is your IBAN, I can connect that to a name via your bank, and your Facebook account via your email (which most people who have both will have used the SAME EMAIL ADDRESS) and I own your fucking life.

  • ...a receptionist in a dentists' office...

    Wow, that office really gets around...

  • I'm pretty sure that if I had to create hundreds of lines of credit, buy hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of Apple products and then sell all this stuff one iPhone at a time on Craigslist I'd end up making less than minimum wage. What a fucking lousy scheme, it's almost as tedious as stealing from park meters or vending machines.

    • by gtall ( 79522 )

      You don't understand criminals' pyramid schemes, do you?

      • by lucm ( 889690 )

        Why don't you explain the alleged pyramid scheme involved in this situation? Or does your expertise in this matter stops at making vague statements?

  • Apple made the business decision to have the instant credit provided by a 3rd party. There was a lot of money to be made in this channel and Apple is sitting on billions in cash so why did Apple not provide the credit directly? Because they knew this would be abused and they couldn't put a solid number on the potential downside. There are probably some interesting emails to be subpoenaed by an enterprising attorney on this subject. I would guess the Apple CFO would have been for offering the credit dire
    • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

      Apple made the business decision to have the instant credit provided by a 3rd party. There was a lot of money to be made in this channel and Apple is sitting on billions in cash so why did Apple not provide the credit directly? Because they knew this would be abused and they couldn't put a solid number on the potential downside. There are probably some interesting emails to be subpoenaed by an enterprising attorney on this subject. I would guess the Apple CFO would have been for offering the credit directly

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