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Schiller Says Apple Is the Last PC Maker From the Mac Era, Forgets About HP 474

An anonymous reader writes "Philip Schiller, Apple's senior vice president of worldwide marketing, recently claimed that Apple is the only computer company left from the early days of the Mac. Unfortunately for him, HP still exists. "Every company that made computers when we started the Mac, they're all gone," Schiller told Macworld in an interview on Apple's Cupertino campus. 'We're the only one left.' I'm sorry Apple, but when exactly did HP declare bankruptcy? We contacted an HP spokesperson for a statement on Apple's ridiculous claim and were pointed to its timeline history page."
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Schiller Says Apple Is the Last PC Maker From the Mac Era, Forgets About HP

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  • Oh (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 25, 2014 @03:22PM (#46067565)

    Wow, he really must be the spawn of satan. How dare he make a mistake. We must hate on Apple as hard as we can.

  • !HP (Score:5, Insightful)

    by iroll ( 717924 ) on Saturday January 25, 2014 @03:24PM (#46067591) Homepage

    Comparing today's HP to the HP of the 80s, I'm inclined to side with Schiller.

  • by timmyf2371 ( 586051 ) on Saturday January 25, 2014 @03:28PM (#46067615)

    Who do you think manufactures Apple's computers, if not the likes of Foxconn and Pegatron?

  • Re:!HP (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 25, 2014 @03:30PM (#46067629)

    Doing the same comparison on Apple yields the same results.

    Woz must be turning in his grave.

  • Re:!HP (Score:5, Insightful)

    by pushing-robot ( 1037830 ) on Saturday January 25, 2014 @03:40PM (#46067697)

    Are you thinking of Apple of the 70s? Woz was basically out by 1981.

    Apple today is very much like Apple of the early Mac years: building computers that are small, easy, and appliance-like.

  • by MachineShedFred ( 621896 ) on Saturday January 25, 2014 @03:43PM (#46067711) Journal

    A marketing guy said something untrue? SAY IT ISN'T SO!

    I'm guessing the only reason this story is here is so they can rack a couple OMG APPLE IS SO ARROGANT FUCK THEM posts from 7-digit newcomers around here.

    God I miss the pre-Dice Slashdot.

  • Re:And IBM (Score:5, Insightful)

    by MetalliQaZ ( 539913 ) on Saturday January 25, 2014 @03:43PM (#46067717)

    I still count IBM. I believe that quite was, "Every company that made computers when we started the Mac, they're all gone."

    IBM is still around. Maybe they sold their business, but the company is still around and the business they sold to Lenovo is still going strong.
    Likewise for HP, Dell, hell even Atari are still around. Sure their businesses have changed, but so did Apple's. Mac has far less mindshare than iPhone and iTunes these days.

  • by Slartibartfast ( 3395 ) <ken @ j> on Saturday January 25, 2014 @04:24PM (#46067957) Homepage Journal

    I thought the story was a reasonable one. While I do miss the pre-Dice days, the days I really miss are the pre-Y2K days. Taco commentary, movie reviews, "quickies," Hemos, Cowboy Neal poll options... I just enjoyed the by-the-seat-of-their-pants feel. And that has been gone for quite some time. Certainly before you registered. ;-)

  • by SerpentMage ( 13390 ) <[ ] ['' in gap]> on Saturday January 25, 2014 @04:28PM (#46067995)

    And how is this relevant? BTW did you know that PC's way back in the days of Mac used standard components? It is only Mac that uses stupid custom components giving them some of the worst repair ratings in the industry.

  • Re:Look at 1995 (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Dr. Spork ( 142693 ) on Saturday January 25, 2014 @04:41PM (#46068093)
    I think you nailed it. 30 years ago HP didn't have a computer line for home users. IBM did, but they don't now. Apple did then, and they still do now. Their claim is really quite defensible. The guy should have said "Of all the companies that were making consumer computers in 1984, we're the only one left that's still doing it." But I think it's not a stretch to interpret his sentence in just this way.
  • Re:Oh (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 25, 2014 @04:52PM (#46068163)
    He didn't make a mistake, he knowingly made a false statement in order to posture Apple above other computer makers. It is not possible for anyone that has anything to do with the computer industry in a professional capacity to "forget" about IBM, HP, Dell, Acer, NEC, Sony, Cray, Fujitsu, etc. who all made computers from before or since the Mac to current day.
  • Re:!HP (Score:5, Insightful)

    by bloodhawk ( 813939 ) on Saturday January 25, 2014 @06:21PM (#46068777)
    Today's Apple is also nothing like the Apple of 80's. It is arguably undergone even more drastic changes than HP.
  • Re:!HP (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Patch86 ( 1465427 ) on Sunday January 26, 2014 @04:45AM (#46071493)

    Assuming you don't count the whole messy business with NeXt- i.e., Jobs leaving, founding a competing company, Apple heading to the point of bankruptcy, buying NeXt in a sort of reverse takeover in which the NeXt board (i.e. Jobs) takes control of the company, replacing their entire product line (Mac OS) with NeXt products. And then, of course, switching their primary business model to selling audio players and phones, with their major revenue source being a content distribution platform.

    So yeah, definitely exactly the same company as existed in 1986.

    I still take your point, but it's disingenuous to pretend that Apple hasn't been through the corporate meat grinder just as much as any other long-lived company.

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