What Features Does iOS 7 Need? 262
Nerval's Lobster writes "Apple's iOS 7, which is heavily rumored to make its debut at next week's Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) in San Francisco, will almost certainly feature a totally redesigned interface. According to recent rumors (including a few key postings on the Apple-centric blog 9 to 5 Mac), the OS will stand as a shining example of "flat" design, which eliminates "real world" elements such as texture and shading in favor of stripped-down, basic shapes. That means certain iOS environments such as Game Center (with its casino-like green felt) and Newsstand (with its wooden shelving) could soon look completely different. But what about iOS 7's actual features? What could Apple change that would improve the operating system's chances against the increasingly sophisticated Google Android, not to mention the new-and-improved BlackBerry 10 and Windows Phone 8? What would you do to iOS with Apple's full resources at your disposal?"
iOS==Metro?? (Score:5, Interesting)
the OS will stand as a shining example of "flat" design, which eliminates "real world" elements such as texture and shading in favor of stripped-down, basic shapes
Re:iOS==Metro?? (Score:5, Funny)
More like the Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy GUI design...
Every time I press one of these black controls, labelled in black on a black background, a little black light lights up black to let me know I've done it.
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More like the Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy GUI design... Every time I press one of these black controls, labelled in black on a black background, a little black light lights up black to let me know I've done it.
Maybe it's time to take off those Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive Sunglasses.
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It's interesting that they seem to be trying to purge many of the ideas most associated with Steve Jobs. Skeuomorphic UIs, the one true tablet size, the one true phone size, paying out money to shareholders, not starting too many new lawsuits over design elements and so forth. Arguably Apple Maps would never have been released under Jobs, such was his demand for quality.
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Win8 design != Metro
Metro is the retarded interface that wants you to use your computer like you do your phone. Everybody with a real use for a computer treats it like a splash-screen that is there to ignore and promptly clicks the desktop icon. Once you are there though, I find Win8 quite slick. Much, much better than the original Aero design.
Besides, this is 2013 and design has moved on. Textures are so 10-years-ago.
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Sure there is. Steve Jobs was such a visionary he could see the future!
themes. (Score:2)
wouldn't need to be listening about bitching about changing the default look then.
other stuff: start adding resolution and density independent ui elements. you know, so that you wouldn't be so fucked as apple is with osx.
dedicated multitasking drawer+button.
block notifications from this app button to every notification sent through the apple system.
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other stuff: start adding resolution and density independent ui elements. you know, so that you wouldn't be so fucked as apple is with osx.
I beg to disagree: in theory resolution independent user interface elements should be a lot better than Apple's approach of only allowing double densities. Practice however shows, that if you have a resolution independent UI API, a lot of developers are lazy and do not adapt their layout to different screen sizes, or do not correctly use the APIs.
As an example, the windows experience on high-res displays is significantly worse than the Mac OS X experience: the majority of Windows applications simply do not work correctly on a Mac Book Pro Retina display, since only parts of the UI elements scale correctly, resulting in a complete mess.
Android fares somewhat better due to a better API, but the fine-tuned user interfaces for different resolutions on iOS (tablet/phone) usually make for a better user experience. On Android there is too little incentive (return on investment) for developers to fine-tune their user interfaces to different resolutions.
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Re:themes. (Score:4, Interesting)
Last year's phones had 720p (1280x720) screens and this year's all have 1080p (1920x1080) screens. The iPhone 5 isn't even HD at a mere 1136x640.
The problem for Apple is to bump up the iPhone resolution to HD (the current one is still SD) by doubling they will end up with 2270x1280. That's going to be expensive, and 1080p content will be scaled awkwardly. The alternative is to pick a new resolution and make developers re-work their apps to support it yet again.
As for Windows I guess you haven't tried it. It works fine 99% of the time with exact 2x scaling and pretty well with arbitrary scaling. Apps which don't support scaling natively are just zoomed at the pixel level, exactly the same as Mac OS. Interestingly the most high profile app that doesn't scale well is the Adobe CS suite, which didn't scale properly on Mac OS when the first retina displays were released either.
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Re:themes. (Score:5, Informative)
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Uh, I do exactly this on my mac mini on a 50" tv set, and its scaled quite nicely.
Don't just make things up to get angry about dude.
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How? I've got a Mac mini plugged into a 40" TV and changing font sizes doesn't fix the size of non textual buttons, default image sizes, hit-zone size around window borders, scroll bars or any of the other UI elements that are not tied to the font size.
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You're holding it wrong....
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sooner or later apple is already getting fucked on the devices they can make because if they make another device with another pixel density then it adds up directly as manual work for every developer.
Apple just abandons the older versions of their hardware. They'e abandoned two of my iPod Touches now. The third one I bought about a year ago but it's due to be abandoned shortly.
Better Application Hooks (Score:5, Insightful)
I want to be able to choose Chrome as my browser instead of Safari.
I want 1password to be able to hook in to it.
I want apps to open new links in Chrome instead of their own embedded browser.
WebRTC support
Save MP3s in to iTunes
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All of those things are things that malware and crapware would immediately use to make your phone much, much worse. I'd like them too, but I can see why Apple would want to keep those things off their system to keep their users happier.
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Re:Better Application Hooks (Score:5, Insightful)
Then you don't want an iPhone,
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A lot of us have come to figure that out.
It's not about you specifically (Score:3)
if i want to muck up my phone with crap thats on me. I dont want apple pretending to be my dad and im 4 years old "now hold my hand as we cross the road."
I don't know any logical reason why you would want to "muck up" your phone with crap. Apple's policies have nothing to do with you specifically. They're in place because the vast majority (well into the 90% range) of people who use an iPhone (or Android for that matter) are very ill equipped to keep their phones free of malware. Most people really just want their phone to work and don't want to deal with a repeat of the malware removal software (ala Norton Antivirus) on their phones as well as their PCs.
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Android gives users more freedom but also protects them very well. You have to be pretty dumb to install malware on Android, so it seems like a good compromise.
You can change the default apps, even the home screen and the keyboard. A lot of people use alternate keyboards, Swype being one of the most popular. These features are not geek things, a lot of users love them and use them safely.
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It gives you an avenue for side loading data among other things.
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You mean it would allow people to install applications they want on hardware they own? The horror.
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Um... no. Specifically, bullshit.
I install an app. It has a manifest saying it supports the "default browser" profile or something like that. The app store / OS (not the app itself!) asks me if I want to make it the default. I choose yes or no. If I choose yes, then behind the scenes, the app is configured to be the handler for http/https/etc. Life goes on. Somewhere in the OS there's a tool for changing such defaults, but apps themselves can't even *tell* whether or not they are the default.
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Glad you asked! (Score:2, Interesting)
OS:
- real push notifications (no connection) a la BB
- real bluetooth support
- sound multiplexing
- multi-user support a la Nexus 7
Shell:
- themes
- screensaver
- background download/upload without 'location services':o
- exif info in gallery
- realtime-thumbs task manager
Politics:
- JS JIT in apps
- support for other browsers
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I think this one is likely to happen now. The reason it is currently unavailable is due to security restrictions on application processes. Apple make an exception for Safari, but they don't want to do it for all applications due to the possibility for abuse. However Apple have recently been moving parts of their system (e.g. mail composer window) over to a new internal API that lets them embed view controllers from other processes. Once they move the web views over to this system, they'
The thing which stopped me from buying Apple (Score:4, Insightful)
are not the features, but the idea that Apple wants to control everything.
If they change that, i will reconsider. However, since i bough quite some Apps for Android, and Android emulation would be nice
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Well. I guess Apple should care. I am not in my 4th smartphone (6th device which i can use to read mobile email/surf), all high end at the time of purchase and (besides the first two devices, which i possesed when the iphone did not exist yet) direct competitors of upcoming apple devices. I buy media/apps via google play/amazon for 100s of Euros per year.
So yea, probably apple would like to have me as a customer.
In terms of specific features for the next iOS i would translate it like this:
Android has a butt
Bettter integration with PRISM (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Bettter integration with PRISM (Score:5, Funny)
Actually, not a bad idea. Why not let the NSA host your email for you? They will have access to it one way or another anyway. Taxpayers have already paid for all those super-duper NSA data centers, so give citizens access to all that computing power via a free NSA cloud.
It will save costs at the NSA, because they won't need a PRISM to refract your email . . . they will have direct access to it. And if you know that the NSA has access to your email, you won't need to worry about if they do have access to your email . . . because you know they do already. It will also be secure, because the NSA are the best professional hackers in the world.
So getting back to iOS 7 features, I'm sure the NSA has already supplied Apple with a long list of their requirements. Let's open up those hidden NSA APIs so that everyone can use them and the NSA's unlimited resources.
Once again, I have to ask myself, "Who's been sleeping in my brain . . . ?"
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What Features Does iOS 7 Need? (Score:2, Insightful)
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Freedom is dangerous.
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It's not going to happen, but... (Score:5, Funny)
It's not going to happen, but a single checkbox in the settings would do:
[ ] Allow installation of apps from unknown sources
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Good question, why did Google do that?
Improvement? (Score:2)
Android (Score:4, Insightful)
Sounds like he's saying iOS should look a whole lot more like Android. Well, sounds like they already copied Android's and Windows' flat themes.
Re: Android (Score:3)
Open it up a little, but won't happen (Score:3)
We have a big mix of Wintels, iDevices and Androids at home & work.
They're all pretty good at doing what we need.
The iDevices, however, stand out for being harder to get things onto and off.
And don't get me started on iTunes, especially when running on a non-Mac.
Sure there are alternatives, and apps like SugarSync and Evernote ease the pain, but why make it hard when a USP of Apple is supposed to be the user-friendliness?
Still, as I said, never going to happen...looks like they're going to focus on the cosmetics, rather than listening to their customers. Shades of Windows 8?
Final thought: Why don't they just take the top-selling and/or free apps, for both 'geek/power user' and 'normal consumer' and bake 'em into the OS? They've got the cash...
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iOS needs less baked into the OS, not more. When FaceBook became popular they needed to develop integrated support for it, When Twitter became popular, they need to develop integrated support for it. With Android, everything integrates automatically, popular or not, and this same mechanism allows you to set a different browser as your default. Apple needs to get over their control fetish and greed.
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First of all, the difficulty of installing onto an iDevixe is by design whether you agree with it or not. You might think it's Apple ulterior motive of controlling everything for profit's sake but one of the main reasons is security. If there is no SD card, it here is no Bluetooth file transfers, there are fewer attack vectors. Again you can disagree with this approach or not.
As for more integration of popular apps, this a slippery slope. There are many here on slashdot that think Apple already controls
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The thing is that all Android viruses have either been trojans that required the user to bee an idiot and side-load malware, or they have attacked things at driver level which Apple is just as vulnerable to and has nothing to do with the freedom to run any app.
The security argument is bogus. Apple, just like game console manufacturers, want to tax every app and lock out all competitors.
Catchup or Reinvent? (Score:2)
Better integration with just about everything. (Score:2)
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Multiple accounts (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Multiple accounts (Score:4, Informative)
Guided Access goes a long way to providing this. Settings->Accessibility
http://www.cultofmac.com/225138/safely-hand-your-iphone-or-ipad-over-to-anyone-with-guided-access-ios-tips/ [cultofmac.com]
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Very nice suggestion, definitely going to try it out.
Re:Multiple accounts (Score:5, Funny)
The audience erupts in rapturous applause. Some are crying. They're holding each other, hopping up and down. Confetti and balloons rain down.
The Android and WinPhone8 fanboys lose their minds online. Servers explode. Anarchy.
Re:Multiple accounts (Score:5, Insightful)
"Just buy another one"
- Steve Jobs
(sorry, couldn't resist)
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I recently visited San Francisco, where I noted a *huge* number of billboards for iPads. Ads everywhere. OK, I'm not used to quite that much billboard-spam, but whatever. What I couldn't figure out was who Apple was targeting here; doesn't everybody in the bay area with an interest in an iPad and the money to buy one already have one?
Then I figured it out: all the ads show an iPad and an iPad Mini side-by-side, frequently with a message about them complementing eachother. The target wasn't people who don't
A master volume control (Score:2)
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/. is a bad place for Apple feature advice (Score:3, Insightful)
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Adding features doesn't necessarily mean making the user experience/interface more complicated, although that's certainly the norm in the software industry.
For example, Siri has the potential to be the main user interface to new features without the user having to be aware of them at all unless they are using them.
The user interface also doesn't have to be the same for everyone - it could potentially adapt to the user such that a user that routinely invokes advanced functionality could choose to have the co
Re:/. is a bad place for Apple feature advice (Score:5, Insightful)
Mod parent up. iOS needs to keep doing what it's doing. It must be doing something right if /. consensus is that Android is "increasingly sophisticated". This is by the same group of people who don't understand why Linux does not have broad appeal.
As an iOS user and developer (as well as user and developer for Windows, Linux, FreeBSD, MacOS and attempted but tired and frustrated user and developer for Android :) ) - I hope Apple continues with incremental and stable approach, giving users well thought out and tightly controlled new feature sets, while maintaining clean, simple and usable system.
Do *not* under any circumstances let engineers ruin this one.
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Oh, excellent. Please be correct.
That means we have at least 5 years of improvements into OS X and iOS.
It think it's going to take that long to connect Steve's brain to the Spaceship, then all hell is going to break loose.
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The incompetence isn't going away. If this happens, the engineers will have to clean up the mess.
"totally redesigned interface" ??? (Score:4, Insightful)
PAH-LEEZE ... doing the flat look is more like changing the skin, not a total redesign.
As for any features add, changed, or modified ... well that is anyone's guess until Apple says so. Anything else is speculation and a blatant attempt to boost advertising revenue by driving clicks/impressions.
Control of App Update notifications (Score:2)
Settings for default applications... (Score:4, Interesting)
Background processing and sharing things please (Score:2)
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Actually they re supposedly going to demo air sharing for iOS. Share files between devices directly.
Mouse support (Score:3)
sshfs (Score:2)
sshfs.
It'd be great if Android provided that, too.
OS Agnostic (Score:2)
All apps should run on all devices OS agnostic. AppleTV, iOS, MacOS, Classic (PPC/68K/Intel), Windows, DOS, CPM, Unix. With rare exceptions everything should run. The computing power to do the emulation is there on even the lowliest Apple device.
Likewise we should be able to access and manipulate our data sets in our applications on any device.
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And a pony!
run 3rd party software like android (Score:2)
run 3rd party software like android
Add Ogg Vorbis support for native apps (Score:2, Interesting)
Ogg vorbis support is needed to be supported a lot better then it is now. Currently if you want to play Vorbis music files you have to transfer the files manually to your iDevice and use a different music player that supports the format. However, I doubt the chances of this happening may unfortunately be slim to none. Ogg vorbis IMHO is a much better format then AAC but god forbid Apple supporting it on the devices and in iTunes.
USB drive & printing (Score:2)
iOS 7 should let the device act as normal flash storage. This is a crippling weakness in Apple's current devices and traces all the way back to the Newton's custom filesystem in the 90s. Seamless printing, especially with all the wireless printers around, is a no-brainer.
There's a lot that should be addressed. (Score:2)
iTunes as a method to manage things is a joke. App organization is particularly weak.
Buying apps through iTunes is silly: why not use the web? At the very least the browser built into iTunes should be made more robust. You should be able to do browsery things like change the font size, bookmark, etc.
Photo syncing is a mess. In fact the whole backup/sync distinction is too confusing.
The find file function lets you launch an app, but doesn't tell you where the app lives.
USB hubs should be supported so that m
Re:iOS (Score:4, Insightful)
Something different instead of the simple outdated icon grid on the home pages. Whether it be a form of widget or something completely different is up to Apple.
This is double as strong when it comes to the iPad. I remember when they launched the device they were encouraging developers to use then larger canvas instead of just making big iPhone apps. They have still not done this themselves.
I think that would be a huge mistake. If you change the look of features, people can still navigate by memory of layout. If you change the layout of features, people can still navigate by look. If you change both, everyone's completely lost, and you anger 100% of your customer base.
I would go so far as to say that Apple should change practically nothing in terms of functionality. Bug fixes, improved compatibility, speed enhancements, but don't "change" anything.
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It would really help if they had widgets. Instead of just an array of square icons you can have actual useful information which at a minimum also lets you open the app. The variable shapes really help you to quickly find what you want - your screens are no longer just identical grids.
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I agree, workflow on the iPad is tough because of the security model where apps can't get into each others files. While this keeps down malware, it makes uploading files, creating digital portfolios, and sharing between apps nearly impossible without the use of computer or cloud service. Hopefully Apple has a plan for it's new shiny giant green data centers other than serving iTunes apps and running flaky near useless iCloud service.
Improving workflow on the iPad would be on the top of my list, I can live
Re:simple (Score:5, Insightful)
Central filesystem so apps can share data in a simple manner.
That would break simplicity.
The current solutions for importing/exporting files from Apple applications don't really qualify as "simple". Ever tried to share a file via iTunes or WebDAV? Having a filesystem that didn't raise its head until you chose 'share' wouldn't break simplicity - or maybe providing a standard API that let apps share through DropBox, Google Drive etc. (Flap, oink!)
I tried iCloud but it insists on moving everything off your iOS device into the cloud. If I wanted to do that I'd use Google Docs so I could share things with non-Mac users!
Allow printing to any fucking printer.
It can do printing, but only with printers that follow the spec. Printers that don't work requires extra drivers, that we shouldn't need in the first place anyway.
No, but there's no reason why Airprint can't work with any shared printer on your Mac. When AirPrint was first announced Apple were going to support this - then they signed an exclusive with HP and disappeared the feature. There's third-party software to do this (e.g. Printopia). At one point, I found instructions for adding the appropriate zeroconf and CUPS settings to my Linux box so I could print to it (but a later iOS update borked that).
NSA Prism compatible (Score:5, Funny)
Perhaps what it really needs is a "NSA Prism" icon
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Notice the timeline for Prism access to Apple?
Jobs had to croak, before the company betrayed it's service users, and handed them wholesale for illegal data-rape by an invasive, secret-police venture.
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This is the big thing. Whatever features are added, just make they damn well work. Almost two years to fix the damn podcast app is two years too many.
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No, but there's no reason why Airprint can't work with any shared printer on your Mac. When AirPrint was first announced Apple were going to support this - then they signed an exclusive with HP and disappeared the feature. There's third-party software to do this (e.g. Printopia). At one point, I found instructions for adding the appropriate zeroconf and CUPS settings to my Linux box so I could print to it (but a later iOS update borked that).
On a Mac, handyPrint [netputing.com] works wonderfully. I have a networked HP laserjet that predates AirPrint. It's set up as a shared printer on my Mac, and then handyPrint adds the appropriate Bonjour advertising and any other necessary tidbits. Printing from my and my wife's iPhones and iPads works great. I have no connection to the company, just a very satisifed user.
Re:simple (Score:5, Insightful)
Makes sense that a program called "iTunes" would deal with sharing files and getting apps.
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I'd really like to see Apple implement an approval process for privileged code. Establish the world's tightest NDA for a private source code auditing program, or require that all privileged code be open source.
Allow people to do what they want with their phones if developers can make the peer-reviewed cut, preserving the quality of the user experience Apple prides themselves on but can only achieve by locking you out of the device you o
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What about Finder? I think that would have been a good choice for sharing files and getting apps.
Re:simple (Score:5, Informative)
Thanks for pointing that out. I had not yet discovered it myself. (My GF has an ipad provided from her work.)
That is a really non-intuitive processes designed to prevent users from actually doing what they want. Why can't we just drag and drop from a folder like every other GUI? (including OSX)
I totally agree with GP. If Apple wants to improve the IOS experience they should get rid of the propriety crap and provide easy ways for people to use their devices as they want.
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You couldn't be more wrong. They do not use the legacy file system as you know it. They use a task specific file system. It's evident in every aspect of iCloud, and iTunes. When you want to work with files relating to your gym app, you select the gym app on your iDevice, and you will see all files related to that app. iCloud is the same way.
Apple's method doesn't need 'directories' or anything of the sort. The underlying structure is irrelevant in a task oriented file system. You see the files specific to t
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How widgets are displayed in Android varies with the launcher you're using. I suspect you might have seem a Samsung launcher or something as the stock one is done quite nicely, as are most of the other ones I've seen.
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Other than the iCloud stuff, you can do all of that with an Android phone, although I believe you need root to be able to do the full Tor support.
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