iOS 6.1 Leads To Battery Life Drain, Overheating For iPhone Users 266
An anonymous reader writes "We have started seeing an increase in iPhone issues related to battery life and overheating. All of them seem to be related to users upgrading their devices to iOS 6.1. Furthermore, Vodafone UK today began sending out text messages to iPhone 4S owners on its network, warning them not to upgrade to iOS 6.1 due to issues with 3G performance. The text reads, 'If you've not already downloaded iOS 6.1 for your iPhone 4s, please hold off for the next version while Apple fixes 3G performance issues. Thanks.'"
Hmm (Score:2)
My phone is too full to run the upgrade. I guess I am just good.
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On some of our phones, that would leave little but contacts and apps.
Background audio (Score:2)
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It seems background audio from Safari and other browsers is broken as well.
Not broken. Prevented. Thank god. Web pages what play background audio are the spawn of satan.
Audio that you choose to play still works perfectly of course.
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Do you realise how many ads are flash-based?
I run "Flashblock" on firefox, which replaces flash objects with a 'click to run' F symbol. I used someone else's PC a little while ago and I never realised how much of a blinking distraction the modern flash-enabled internet is.
Never Upgrade Immediately (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Never Upgrade Immediately (Score:4, Insightful)
Except last I checked, iOS 6.1 contains security fixes, a few of which are not related to blocking jailbreaking.
So your choices are apparently "useful battery life" or "able to browse webpages safely." Sounds about normal for Apple, since this isn't the first upgrade that completely killed battery life for most users.
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Install Chrome. And Google Maps. Oh, the irony.
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Given that Chrome uses the same browser engine as Safari, how would it help?
And where do you get Google Maps for iPad?
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Right-o! This is wisdom for all X.0 (and X.Y.0) OS releases (and most app releases) I've ever known. Waiting long enough to hear about what early-adopters experience is right for most of us. (Same situation in the case of the new KDE4.10 release which is crashing on some DE's)
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Well, since this seems to be the place for lots of anecdotal evidence... I've been running 6.1 since the first beta with no issues.
Re:Never Upgrade Immediately (Score:5, Insightful)
Troll much?
There are hundreds of millions of people without any problems whatsoever, and hundreds, maybe even a few thousand, who are having problems. After all, if what you said were true (and not just the standard Slashdot drivel), you'd see not just a sensational headline and story, but an outcry from the users.
Don't worry yourself about it, though. Trolling Apple here will get you points.
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Well, Apple HAS been very badly behaved lately. If nothing else, the fact that we have had to wait until this week to install 6.x because we've been waiting for a jailbreak is incredibly wrong, there should be no such concept as a jailbreak because there should be no such concept as a device that the user cannot install his choice of software. It's MY phone, not Apple's phone.
Sure, they're nowhere close to as evil as M$, but they ARE evil.
And what's truly infuriating about that is that they are the ONLY o
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Try a tiling window manager with virtual desktops sometime, and you'll experience real usability.
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Oh get a life, dude. Hundreds of thousands of people without problems and a whole bunch with. What I said is really True Gospel, no matter what the fanbois whine about. Apple has been pretty bad about software / firmware upgrades for years. 10.0.0 - now exactly how useful was that, remember? 10.6.0 (which was supposed to fix things - glitches galore. 10.7.0 - a mess, 10.8 - still pretty iffy for a lot of people.
Hey, I use OS X (and iOS) daily - I like it. I'm just happy to let the bleeding edge get a
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Pleasant little sod, aren't you?
Time for your Prozac.
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I guess at least that's an improvement over MS, where it was always don't install ANYTHING until the 3.x version is out.
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I have noticed my 4S has less battery life since "upgrading" to 6.1. Went through 80% in an entire day with about 30 mins of tethering and a few phone calls, as well as listening to music for 6 hrs. On 5.1 it would last about 2 days with that kind of activity.
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microsoft called, and want their "version 3 before you can use it" tag back.
64 bit? (Score:2)
From the Wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem [wikipedia.org]
No problem here (Score:5, Informative)
Re:No problem here (Score:5, Informative)
Same here
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Have a friend with a 4s and iOS 6.0.x that has some kind of background process keeping the phone from going into standby. The standby and usage timers are the same and the phone only gets about 8 hours of use.
I'm wondering if some misbehaving apps or mail/sync configurations are keeping the phone awake. Something in the iOS 6.1 update could be causing a similar problem for some of those who update.
Both my iPhone 4 and wife's 4s seem to be relatively normal since the 6.1 update.
Re:No problem here (Score:5, Informative)
Re:No problem here (Score:5, Informative)
To Back Up - First copy all photos and videos from the phone to the computer. They will fill up your iCloud space really fast. Then look for Apps that hold documents. Most apps are really just portals to websites so they contain little to no data. However, for apps that contain files, make sure you have those files backed up somewhere. Then backup the phone to either iCloud or by plugging it into iTunes. Plug it into iTunes in either case and also right-click on the phone and hit Transfer Purchases. That will transfer any apps, music, movies, etc that are not currently on the computer from the phone.
So easiest to hardest steps after backing up all data:
1: Reset All Settings: Go to Settings>General>Reset All Content and Settings. Then restore from backup. This can kill a lot of problems and takes maybe 15 minutes. However, if the problem is deep in the system...
2: Restore from Backup: Plug the phone into iTunes and do a System Restore. This will do a clean install and will clear a lot more problems. Then restore from backup. Now, if the problem persists, your backup is more than likely corrupted so...
3: Restore the Phone: Do the same process as above but do not restore from the backup. You can re-sync to iCloud for contacts and re-sync apps from the computer (or re-download them). Essentially you're starting with a fresh system and just copying the apps back over. You'll lose your app data, so maybe some high scores in some games, nothing too bad. However, if the problem persists even after doing this...
4: DFU Restore: Look up how to do this online. If none of the above have fixed it, there's some bad juju on your phone. A DFU will reinstall the system AND the firmware. Just to be on the safe side, I would advise not restoring from backup. If your phone was borked enough that it needed a DFU restore, don't take the chance of putting stuff back on there. Just copy the apps back.
All in all, they're very easy steps to do and when all is said and done, you can have your phone back up and running in about 30 min with any of the above steps. Hope it helps, Cheers!
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Am I clicking "transfer purchases" wrong?
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The best thing to do is to make sure you have a backup and restore the phone.
How we used to LOL when the fix to all computer problems was "close the window and open it again". Apparently that has now evolved to "wipe all data and restore to factory settings". Progress indeed.
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Also no problems with 4S and 6.1.
I wonder if some of these 'problems' are from the same people who refuse to believe that iTunes shuffle is random.
I know why /. posts these articles, to get lots of comments. All the comments are between fanbois and trolls. Which adds nothing to nothing.
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Also no problems with 4S and 6.1.
I wonder if some of these 'problems' are from the same people who refuse to believe that iTunes shuffle is random.
It's not that it isn't random, it's that it doesn't work like most people would expect. Even Apple will tell you that shuffle doesn't pick the next song at random. When you first turn on shuffle, it creates a shuffled playlist and uses that forever unless you turn off shuffle and turn it back on. So every time you play song X, it's always followed by song Y. In some ways it makes sense, but after listening though a few times, it's easy to notice that its not really picking the next song at random.
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Isn't this how shuffle always works? It works like that on my Rockboxed device, on my N900... heck, I'd say that's the "expected" way of doing it.
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On my Sandisk Sansa player, each time the shuffled playlist completes, it reshuffles the list. If I go back and forward in the list, I'll hear the same sequence until I run off the far end, then it randomizes them again.
The only time I hear the same song twice in a row is if it was at the end of the shuffled list and then at the start of the new list. 1 in 1392!2 chance of that.
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I think my ideal for shuffle would be to reshuffle the playlist after you've gone through every song once, maybe with a check that the last 10% of the previous run through the list aren't in the first 10% of the new run.
Re:No problem here (Score:4, Funny)
Ditto. My 4S has had no problems with iOS 6.1. In fact, my battery life seems better than it was before.
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Go right ahead. In the meantime, I'll take AT&T's experience with their millions of iPhone customers over your view. No issues here, and none reported by anyone else I know.
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Dear DJ Particle
We thank you for using your single datapoint to prove that iOS6.1 is in fact fine and that other people are using it wrong.
If you are contacted by any member of the media asking for specific details of your phone such as the build number in the OS, serial number, network provider, apps installed, PCB revisions or any other details just kindly remind them that all Apple products are 100% identical and there's certainly no customisations that providers can do such as disabling tethering, SIM l
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the models are all the same, the 3G networks around the world are all slightly different
probably a bug in how vodaphone does something on their network and some app using location services
Andriod Update (Score:2, Troll)
The most recent update on my HTC increased my battery life significantly.
It's not issue... (Score:5, Funny)
It's a feature to keep user's hands warm during the cold winter months, which will be turned off in a future release when the seasons change.
- Apple PR
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Of course not, it uses the new, patented and exclusively-apple "Global positioning" service to switch the warming feature on and off. Noob.
Unfortunately, this feature was built off the Apple maps application.
I guess they did need Jobs screaming at them... (Score:5, Funny)
...to keep from fucking things up all the time.
All versions of iOS drain battery (Score:2)
I remember hearing battery problems for practically every iOS version from 5.0 onwards.
http://osxdaily.com/2011/10/16/ios-5-battery-life-fix-tips/ [osxdaily.com]
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/12/ios-6-0-2-suspected-of-draining-batteries/ [arstechnica.com]
What gives?
Using the phone drains the battery (Score:2)
Title fixxored.
It cuts both ways I guess (Score:4, Interesting)
One of the strong points of iPhone is the fact that it is very manufacturer supported. It is *THE BEST* menufacturer supported consumer device out there. I don't care what you cheer for or what you bought, I think there's simply no denying Apple's iPhone is at the top in this category. They get updates. They get fixes. The carrier does not and cannot get in the way. (Though in the early days with AT&T demanding Apple disable tethering and all that kinda sucked.) After saying all this, you would think I'm another Appe fanboy. I'm not. I'm not any kind of fan boy, but I choose Android over all others and choose carrier independence by going with unlocked, rooted and custom ROM'd phones. So all that out of the way, what am I talking about cutting both ways?
Well, this: Apple pushes updates to the whole OS -- kernel, apps and all, to all users and all [selected] phones. "The experience" is pretty important to Apple and that it should be consistent is a high priority to them. I think their rate of updates appear to be okay but their all-or-nothing thing is a problem in that problems like these occur and from what I understand, going back to a previous version is not done... not casually anyway and requires jailbreaking maybe?
The power of the various versions of the iPhones vary. Android devices vary a LOT more. And as I look at the potential of the devices, it is easy to observe that the hardware has limits which shouldn't be exceeded. I've been pissed off at T-Mobile and Samsung for not updating my SGS2 soon enough or for long enough, but sometimes the argument that the hardware can't support the software is true. This Apple story rather reminds me of that fact.
So it cuts when the device (iPhone or Android) doesn't get the updates users crave, but it also cuts when the updates kill the phone. I guess it's time for me (and anyone else who hasn't yet) to accept that my expensive phone(s) are to be considered short-term use devices with a life expenctancy of about a year... maybe a year and a half. (And certainly not the duration of the contracts that most people sign in order to get their new shiny.)
Wouldn't it be nice if we could have a more PC like experience with our phones? By that I mean, choose our body/case, display, processor, RAM, storage, radios and all that? I know... too much to hope for. Still, to fight be able osolecence would be nice.
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CC.
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Or, you could, for example, keep the perfectly functional operating system you had when you bought the machine. I know, you miss out on the latest shiny and you're vulnerable to some edge case security problem. But it still beeps and whistles like before.
Apple SHOULD do a bit more testing on their upgrades and you'd think because they only have a couple of models of each phone you could manage that, but I guess it's harder than it looks.
I had issue w. battery, recreated my email profile (Score:5, Informative)
I solved my 6.1 battery issues by deleting and recreating my two exchange email profile.
Apparently this a common issue after iOS upgrades.
Faster Release Cycles (Score:3)
CC
ActiveSync and Calendars (Score:5, Informative)
Apparently if you update a calendar item on your iOS device, it tries to update Exchange and fails.
It then retries continuously, chewing through battery life and log files: http://wmpoweruser.com/exchange-server-acting-up-blame-those-ios-6-1-users-then-ban-them/ [wmpoweruser.com].
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Why would this problem be specific to phones, though? I'd guess the Exchange ActiveSync connector for e-mail, calendar, tasks, notes, contact syncing would be the same for iPhones, iPads, iPod Touch, all devices that have it available handling the sync to an Exchange server. Curious.
I guess I've just been lucky, both my iPhone and iPad are using the Exchange ActiveSync for my work account and I haven't had a problem yet (I usually go 2-3 days between using a charger, so it would be very noticeable if I were
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GP's linked article was written by a MS Windows Phone enthusiast, but it is describing a problem with all iOS6.1 devices. I'd expect this to be a pretty widely known problem by now ... I'll have to look into it further.
As it is, it just seems like there would be a lot more reports of this issue if it were as bad as described. There must be an unusual set of conditions that trigger it, we have thousands of users with several hundred iOS devices used with our Exchange system, but no reports of issues yet. It
No problems on the 5 iOS devices in my house. (Score:2)
Including two iPhone 4S.
No problems w/my Android updates (Score:3, Insightful)
Because the manufacturer of my 1 year old phone has decided that it isn't *worth* updating. No problem - I just installed Cyanogen mod and I'm good ... well, except that the camera isn't supported yet, and the battery life is 1/2 what I get on the manufacturer's ROM.
Suddenly, overheating Apple phones don't look so bad - at least iPhone owners can be reasonably certain that Apple will actually release a fix, in a timely fashion.
Only issue I'm seeing... (Score:2)
My data connection drops, I have to toggle Roaming to get it back. I've never had roaming turned on and prefer it off but turning it on and then back off or simply turning it on brings back the data connection - for awhile. The screen also seems a bit dimmer and softer especially in dark conditions but I'm not seeing any issues with battery life or performance of 3G for phone calls. The data thing, THAT is a killer that needs to be fixed and hopefully without breaking the jailbreak that's out.
I've done the
Remember here: (Score:3)
This is exactly why Apple must lock down your device for your own good. If you jailbreak, you might run unapproved software that could affect battery life or ecen overheat.....OH.......Never mind. Nothing to see here. Move along!
Can't recreate issue (Score:3)
I've tried to recreate the issue, and so far I can't.
iPhone 5 iOS 6.1, Exchange 2010
I created an appointment - no abnormal increase in logs
I invited someone internal - no abnormal increase in logs
I was invited from an internal account, rejected one, accepted another - no abnormal increase in logs
I was invited from an external account, rejected one, accepted another, also declined after accepting - no abnormal increase in logs
For each of these, there was the expected 20 or so packets associated with the changes, and no ongoing network traffic.
On the other hand, we had a client that had the runaway log issue last week - I'll be following up with him to find the iOS versions involved
Re:Upgrade to 6.1? (Score:5, Interesting)
Trolling much?
http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2012/12/17/galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-problems-since-verizon-update/ [phonesreview.co.uk]
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Sounds like a Verizon issue there not a S3 issue.
Jellybean 4.2 runs beautifully on mine, non-Verizon of course.
Re:Upgrade to 6.1? (Score:5, Insightful)
I've been reading /. since 1998 or something and one thing that would always make me mad were the assholes that would reply to a problem in a particular OS with the suggestion that the solution to that problem would be using another particular OS. Normally it would be a MS Windows issue and always there was an asshole saying that with Linux that particular problem would not happen.
So to get back to point. Next time you have a headache, please remember, that the problem is that you have a faulty head and should be using another, better one. So please have someone chop it off, and replace it with a new one.
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Next time you have a headache, please remember, that the problem is that you have a faulty head and should be using another, better one. So please have someone chop it off, and replace it with a new one.
And we'd really like to hear about your experiences afterwards. Especially if this problem keeps recurring despite your solution...
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So to get back to point. Next time you have a headache, please remember, that the problem is that you have a faulty head and should be using another, better one. So please have someone chop it off, and replace it with a new one.
Don't be a pirate. Don't steal heads.
Re:Upgrade to 6.1? (Score:5, Funny)
I suggest switching to Linux.
and they have replaceable batterys and extended on (Score:2)
and they have replaceable batterys and extended ones as well.
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It all depends on what you use your phone for.
I have an iPhone--no replaceable battery. And I didn't really miss it. Until I also started using it as a bike computer. Because of the reflective screen, I have to turn it to full brightness. I'm also using the GPS, downloading mapping information, etc. I can get a little over 50 miles--about 3.5 hours--before I'm out of juice.
So I'm sure you've never had to replace a battery on a Nexus phone because you don't use your phone in an environment where it's ea
For shame... (Score:5, Funny)
Every civilized person shouldn't venture more than 4 feet away from an outlet. Swapping batteries is so bohemian. This isn't some hippy love-in we're talking about.
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There may be many worthy reasons to move from an iPhone to a Nexus 4, but battery life isn't one of them, and neither is heat.
However, you may be on to something with the SIII. After all, if holding off on upgrades to the newest OS version is something that's important to you, going with a non-Nexus Android device will provide that functionality far beyond expectations. :D
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Did you get paid for that advertisement? Either way, it's still spam.
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Oh I get it! M$! Like "MS" for "MicroSoft," but you used a dollar sign instead of the S to show they're greedy! That's so clever! Did you think that up yourself? I bet you're well-liked with tons of friends, being as witty as you are.
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Oh I get it! M$! Like "MS" for "MicroSoft," but you used a dollar sign instead of the S to show they're greedy! That's so clever! Did you think that up yourself? I bet you're well-liked with tons of friends, being as witty as you are.
It's okay. Really. Corporations don't have feelings.
Re:Upgrade to 6.1? (Score:4)
I thought the M$ thing was cool when I was a kid. Then I realized that Apple (and later Google) were all about making profits, too, so the whole $ thing seemed rather juvenile. No company is perfect, either with their products or their business tactics.
Anyway, to the topic on hand: As far as I know, it's a relatively uncommon issue. I haven't noticed any battery problems with my iPhone 5; I still recharge it every other night, and LTE/3G seem the same speed as usual. I'm not claiming that some people don't see the problem, but that it may not be as big a deal as the article/summary/headline makes it out to be. As is common for modern /., the headline itself makes it seem as if it's a problem with every iPhone running the new update. Also keep in mind that people will post complaints, and be more vocal about them, more often than they will post compliments.
For those who are experiencing this issue, though, I hope Apple fixes it soon.
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I know a UNIX admin who took the server MSCE exam when it first came out. Didn't touch any books or study materials. Just took the test.
For every question, he looked at the answers, and asked himself - "Which answer would make Microsoft the most money?"
He passed the test.
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late developer? An idiot if I was being charitable.
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When did Apples products suck?
Mid 80s- Late 90s. Give or take.
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I am pissed that the Nexus 4 does not support LTE.
I concur.
While I think it is great that Google released a high end phone for $300, I would gladly have paid the normal Nexus retail price of $650 for a Nexus 4 LTE.
Instead I have gone with the Galaxy SIII and a custom ROM to get an AOSP and LTE experience on 2012 hardware.
The inclusion of AWS Band 4 LTE the requires some hacking is interesting.
I was hoping for LTE 700MHz Band 17 personally.
What LTE frequencies would you want supported?
"There's Always Next Year", when the Nexus 5 will have:
4/17/
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As far as I know, 32-bit Windows 8 still supports 16-bit apps. 64-bit Windows dropped those quite some time ago.
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Re:Rats, already upgraded (Score:4, Informative)
Apple provides some of the best legacy support for their devices of all mobile vendors. By a WIDE margin, in many cases given that most other mobile vendors stop supporting a device the instant it's sold...
Also, on the desktop side, they continued supporting OS9 apps for almost a decade after moving on from that OS, as but one example of their legacy support. They not only provide some of the best legacy support in the industry, they also provide a great deal of advance warning of when that legacy support os going to end.
So, aside from just being a troll, I don't have a clue what you're talking about.
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Apple provides some of the [least horrible] legacy support for their devices of all mobile vendors. By a WIDE margin
FTFY.
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Not a developer - feel free to ignore as you will.
Your complaint is as a developer. You started the conversation about owning an iPhone, which is about being a consumer.
As a consumer, Apple provides some of the best legacy support in the industry. Yes, some things eventually become EOL but, compared to the other options, Apple products are supported a very long time from release.
As a developer, I would say this - any developer who thinks they can develop once and be done forever, especially in the rapidly c
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No, I'm not trolling. Do you have a response to my comment about the deliberate breaking of autorotation in UIViewController in iOS 6? (If you're not an iOS developer, then never mind.)
Apple provides some of the [least horrible] legacy support for their devices of all mobile vendors. By a WIDE margin
FTFY.
Firstly, untwist your panties, everybody breaks APIs. I develop UNIX/Linux software for a living, I could write you several volumes about the joys of broken APIs.
Secondly, you said:
Conclusion: Apple doesn't care about yesterday's customers, they keep their eyes fixed only on future dollars. When Apple goes down (as all behemoth tech companies eventually do) I shall do a little iDance on their grave, perform an Xpectoration on their development tools, and will be sure to Pee Different(r) on anything else I see lying around.
Which is what he was responding to and which is demonstrably false. I used to have an iPhone 3GS, bought in 2009 and I just upgraded it to iOS 6.1 for it's current owner. That'll soon be four years of regular updates; which is what I call support. I know several people with Android phones whose manufacturers orphaned the devic
Re:Rats, already upgraded (Score:4, Insightful)
I have both OSX and Windows machines (although most of them run Linux), and have never run into software incompatibility issues with Windows upgrades. Not even from Windows XP -> Win7. On OSX, need to purchase a new version of Adobe and Autodesk products with every upgrade. New versions not available until several months _after_ the OSX upgrade, which completely blows. That's no "best legacy support", sorry.
You called your parent a troll, not knowing what he's talking about - the pot calling the kettle black.
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How about the other way around? Every time there is a major OSX release, Adobe programs break, Autodesk products stop working. And of course you don't find out about the software incompatibility until you upgrade. I have both OSX and Windows machines (although most of them run Linux), and have never run into software incompatibility issues with Windows upgrades. Not even from Windows XP -> Win7. On OSX, need to purchase a new version of Adobe and Autodesk products with every upgrade. New versions not available until several months _after_ the OSX upgrade, which completely blows. That's no "best legacy support", sorry. You called your parent a troll, not knowing what he's talking about - the pot calling the kettle black.
I haven't had any of those problems and I used Photoshop CS3 for years until I finally upgraded a few months ago. The only headache I ever had with Adobe software were very occasional segfaults in Photoshop and for a while time I had trouble with the Adobe Reader update program refusing to finish the update process.
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Apple really doesn't care much for legacy support; Rosetta is not even installed on Mac OS X by default anymore. They constantly make minor changes to their core OS APIs that require writing separate code paths or using separate languages altogether. The OS X window system interface in my graphics engine is 4x as long as the Microsoft Windows interface. And now, to compile the engine as a 64-bit binary on OS X, I have to write an Objective C wrapper to use parts of the OS that are no longer accessible in th
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Rosetta is not even installed on Mac OS X by default anymore.
It hasn't been available at all since Lion (10.7). Snow Leopard (10.6) didn't have it by default but at least supported it. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that someone has gotten Rosetta from 10.6 to work on {Mountain ,}Lion, but even if it works it's not guaranteed to work after patches or to not just blow up in your face.
Re:Rats, already upgraded (Score:5, Insightful)
Coming from the Microsoft world I have been very surprised at how little attention Apple pays to legacy compatibility. It's only recently become impossible to run 16 bit Windows apps in the latest Microsoft OS. Compare that to the constant forced churn in Apple desktop software.
Huh? Are you talking about the sample Apple that let desktop software developed for 68K CPUs run on Power Macs, software developed for classic Mac OS run on OS X, and software compiled for PowerPC to run on x86?
Are you talking about the same Microsoft that replaced Visual Basic with the incompatible VB.NET, changed the way to develop for smartphones in Visual Studio 2008 and then again in 2010, so that applications developed in VS 2008 will only compile in that version? The same Microsoft that pushed PlaysForSure DRM, and then released the Zune with an incompatible DRM scheme, so that the music its allies had been selling wouldn't play on the Zune? The same Microsoft that got half the world writing code that only worked in Internet Explorer 6, and then broke compatibility in IE7, that pushed Silverlight as the primary way to develop for Windows Phone, and then discontinued Silverlight?
Maybe, coming from the Microsoft world, you really are used to better backward compatibility than what you've seen from Apple. But both companies have cases where they went to great length to preserve backward compatibility and cases where they didn't.
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Apple is no better than MS for backwards compatibility. MS have done a lot in the past, keeping support for 16 bit apps (even in Windows 7 x86 you can run some 16 bit installers) and other ancient APIs around. Your example of Visual Basic is stupid - they continued to sell it for years and VB app still work perfectly well on the latest 64 bit version of the OS. Similarly VS2008 still works and VS2010 includes an importer for older projects that seems to work just fine.
Apple has managed to piss off quite a f
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Perhaps you prefer the former?
We've talked about this from several angles, so that's a hard question to answer simplistically. We all like cool new stuff that works. :D
I'd just get back to my example of Apple deliberately breaking autorotate for legacy apps running on iOS 6. I definitely do not prefer that kind of change. I think it was a good example of what I was talking about, and not "drivel" at all. You're welcome to write a refutation of that point.
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And if having to work with a crappy api is not enough, your app will be rejected if the ui doesn't rotate the way apple wants it. What apple wants you won't find out until about a week from the date of submission. Then you can try to hack it, one week at a time.
Re:No Exchange, no problem (Score:5, Informative)
Nice attempt at trolling, but since Apple is a licensee to the ActiveSync protocol, they are fully within control of how they implement that spec and thus responsible for any issues that crop up when none existed before...
"proprietary" and "non-standards compliant" doesn't equate to "shit", it just equates to "I can't download the spec from a website and implement it". If you implement the protocol badly, it doesn't matter whether it's proprietary or not. If you don't control both ends of a connection, then you are entirely dependent on how the other end implement the protocol, proprietary or not.
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... If you implement the protocol badly, it doesn't matter whether it's proprietary or not. If you don't control both ends of a connection, then you are entirely dependent on how the other end implement the protocol, proprietary or not.
And apparently,from skimming the referenced articles, it appears that the server end has issues....
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And apparently,from skimming the referenced articles, it appears that the server end has issues....
Wow, this iOS upgrade is so bad it's even affecting the servers!?
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Yes. On our corporate network all IOS 6.1 devices have been locked out due to a bug which was overloading the Exchange servers. Specifically it was targeting the Calendar system and at this time they have permitted web browsing access again, but access to Exchange / Outlook has been limited to read-only for calendar events to them.
Posting as AC because I am moderating today.
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Apple and Google are working to undermine Microsoft. But Apple didn't think going Google's route and just dropping Exchange support was the best strategy - they decided to actively attack.
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No mod points, but +1:lol!
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For what it's worth, I was trying to make a "let's blame everything on Apple" joke. A client should only have limited ability to disrupt a well-designed server setup.
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Or my joke simply fell flat, which is a common enough occurrence.
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The company I work for have said there is an issue with 6.1 and the latest MS Exchange. "Dont accept any meeting requests" they say.
So I suspect this parent is not "funny", but on the money.
Sounds like more of a feature than a bug. No more meetings? I'm upgrading right now!