Pod2g Confirms iOS 6, iOS 6.1 Beta 4 Untethered Jailbreak 98
hypnosec writes "Well known iOS security researcher Pod2g has confirmed that a working untethered iOS 6 jailbreak is ready and would be released as soon as iOS 6.1 GM is released. In an interview with iDigitalTimes, the security researcher has revealed that they are already in possession of a functional untethered iOS 6 and iOS 6.1 beta 4 jailbreak, and the majority of the work has been done by @planetbeing and @pimskeks. '6.0 is jailbroken, 6.1 beta 4 also. Now we are waiting 6.1 to confirm and release,' said the researcher. He said that the jailbreak would have been possible without him as he came into the iOS 6 jailbreak scene at a later stage and provided pointers that pushed the other researchers to the maximum."
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I take it your showing the truest of traits around here, you didn't read the rest of the paragraph.
Digital Robin Hoods and Ned Kellys (Score:1)
Three cheers for our new digital heros. Is it now left up to hackers to fight for our freedoms? Do *your* part!
iPhone cattle explicitly agree to a ltd license (Score:3, Informative)
Three cheers for our new digital heros.
...Apparently though its not Apple who are pretty much been anti-consumer for some time with EFF and others trying to keep the option of jailbreaking legal (Its still illegal on your iPad)
This is back from 2010 http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/07/feds-ok-iphone-jailbreaking/ [wired.com] [wired.com] The PDF about Apples responce and basically jailbreaking does this,
"Crashes & instability
Malfunctioning & safety
Invasion of privacy
Exposing children to age-inappropriate content
Viruses & malware
Inability to
Apple v. Samsung (Score:1)
Boycott Apple products...Its not like there are mass of better value alternatives, that support this.
Apple is trying desperately to eliminate a "mass of better value alternatives, that support this." And it's been succeeding in some respects: Apple v. Samsung.
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Which actually eliminated nothing other than a potential transfer of money.
If you're referring to the fact that only damages have already been awarded so far, I seem to remember that Apple is also seeking an injunction.
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Limitation on ability to innovate
What the fucking fuck! They're claiming that jailbreaking reduces the ability to innovate?
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I think they mean business innovation, not technological. The ability to lock down hardware such that the manufacturer still retains control even after sale does enable a number of successful new business models. If the user can buy the hardware and do as they please, businesses are largely confined to the basic method of trying to sell equipment for more than it cost to manufacture.
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Limitation on ability to innovate
What the fucking fuck! They're claiming that jailbreaking reduces the ability to innovate?
People using internal APIs that were not intended to be used, if the company cared about keeping those applications from breaking when an internal API needed to be changed, would prevent forward innovation dependent upon the internal API changing.
However, side-loaded applications have been frequently broken, and in some cases, particularly unlocking, intentionally so.
This has been particularly so with regard to SIM unlocks. For example, the "TurboSIM" and similar products which identified themselves as off
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No. thanks, though.
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I don't see why anyone would buy an Apple device and then jailbreak it. There are equal or better Android equivalents the are not locked down and even if you do jailbreak an Apple device you are still forced to use iTunes to manage media on it.
Re:iPhone cattle explicitly agree to a ltd license (Score:4, Insightful)
Here's one reason (but not the only one):
Some of us, having used both, prefer iOS.
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You started well by acknowledging that the top models compete on equal merits and stating your opinion that one could cater to people's needs as well as the other so there's, in your opinion, little reason to choose the more restricted brand.
Then with that last sentence you turned into a blind religious constipated infantile hater and ruined it all ;)
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Your argument, as presented, gives no reason to prefer Android (there obviously are reasons, though). For myself, I prefer iOS over Android because the UX is much snappier and more fluid, leading to a sense that the phone/tablet itself is faster. Certain UI elements provide much better feedback on iOS than Android, such as the rubber-band effect vs. Google's "light-up" effect (not sure if this has a name). Also, other elements are more clear as to their purpose--IIRC, there are a few buttons in the Andro
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Interestingly, I just tried Android Firefox today and saw the rubber-banding. I was pleased at first, but it's not as fluid as it is on iOS. I couldn't tell if this was because of the phone (an Incredible 2) or just a shoddy implementation.
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Certain UI elements provide much better feedback on iOS than Android, such as the rubber-band effect vs. Google's "light-up" effect (not sure if this has a name).
Overscroll bounce was left out of Android by design because of an Apple patent. A version of Android is distributed under a free software license, and free software cannot implement patented methods that are not licensed royalty-free.
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I can't send free iMessages to my friends with iPhones, iPads, and iPod touches with a droid. .
There aren't any droids that can airplay to my AppleTV (or my girlfriends)
Droids can't sync to iTunes and use the same metadata (Have I played it? Thumbnails, actors, rating, description, etc.etc.).
Droids don't support FindMyFriends (Sure, they have another app for it, but it's not compatible, and I'm not buying all my friends droids).
I do the first three every single day, and the last about once a week. I've nev
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So what you are saying is you became Apple's bitch and now can't get away from them because you are locked in.
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I guess it is a matter of taste. Personally I find the iPhone to look somewhat dated (the basic design has been exactly the same for years) and everything up to the latest widescreen ones was too small to use comfortably. The 5 is about the minimum screen size I would want. My hands are only average size.
For the best feel some of the newer HTCs with their grippy backs are pretty nice.
You can get insurance on any phone you like here in the UK, including immediate replacement.
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To be fair, most of that list is completely true. And I say that as a person who has all my devices jailbroken since the iPhone3G and iPad1.
Only the legal one is factually incorrect, and of course the too-vague-to-interpret which can't be factually argued either way.
Crashes & instability - There are quite a few apps that push the devices way past their limits. I've personally experienced the slowdowns and memory leaks caused by Winterboard, as well as had various tweaks just end up breaking things unt
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Can someone clarify for me how exactly this is fighting for freedoms? AFAIK, iOS is pretty locked down, and this is in the EULA. Which ou agree to when you buy the device. I mean, no one who is carrying the mantle of digital freedom is lining up to get one of these iDevices thinking they're doing freedomish stuff, right?
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Well, it's all relative. For a lot of people coming over to iOS from Windows and even in some cases Macs iOS is the first OS that they use where they actually have software freedom in that they want to use and feel confident about using third party software. The installation process on both Windows and Mac is terrible in comparison, especially on Macs where you have to know what a mounted dmg is. And that assumes that actually finding the software can be done in the first place. In comparison, iOS makes it
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Linux has its own issues. It's a lot better than it used to be, certainly - but it suffers in a manner from great diversity. One Windows or OSX computer is almost exactly like any other - you don't have to worry about not having the correct versions of many different libraries, or system files not being in the same place on every distro. So long as you stick to the distro's own store or repository, all is well - venture outside, and trouble looms.
What business model for free software? (Score:2)
Pretty much all of those problems go away if you build from source
Except that there are several kinds of application where there's no business model to allow building from source. The canonical examples are games, playback software for rented videos, and tax preparation software [pineight.com].
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In theory you could solve most of that problem by just releasing the source under a 'no modification' license. It'd render any form of restriction or DRM trivial to bypass, but... it already is. For that to happen though you'd first need to convince everyone involved that DRM is utterly futile and that they should just abandon all hope of ever getting it to be more than a curb-high deterrant, whch isn't going to be easy.
PPAs (Score:2)
One Windows or OSX computer is almost exactly like any other - don't have to worry about not having the correct versions of many different libraries, or system files not being in the same place on every distro.
For the record this is true of each Linux distribution as well. One Ubuntu computer is the same as any other, and it'll stay the same on any other distribution that closely follows Debian.
So long as you stick to the distro's own store or repository, all is well - venture outside, and trouble looms.
At least on Ubuntu and other distributions based on Debian, there's a middle ground: third-party repositories designed for a particular distribution. Ubuntu calls them PPAs.
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You're an odd individual. Either that, or isolated. Let's educate you.
an iDevice is a quality product, and the operating system the same. Unfortunately, the alternative is something different, which is not what's desired by said person. The only thing missing is the ability to extend the operating system further, so that's what this is.
Now that you understand, I'm sure you can concur. If not, re-read this until you understand.
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So hackers=researchers now? (Score:3, Interesting)
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Um, this has always been what hackers are.
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why, again, is everyone so keen to buy devices that obey someone else?
Because a lot of people care more about usability and functionality than openness and freedom. As long as people can use Facebook and Youtube on their iPhone, they're perfectly fine with it.
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Because a lot of people care more about usability and functionality than openness and freedom.
False dichotomy. Openness does not preclude usability or functionality. In fact, it often enhances functionality. Simple UIs and "safe" software sources can be put on top of open systems.
Re: does more harm than good. (Score:1)
False or not. iOS is stable and easy to use
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It took you days to fiddle with the audio buttons on the side of your phone when you had an issue with the sound?
Wow.
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Because each and every one of you are idiots. Nothing more.
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I'm thinking you're missing the ecosystem of the iOS operating environment.
It's a choice people make, and if you don't like it then you can just not use it. It's by far not a false dichotomy... by very nature if it's open then the user can freely place untested things onto the device. For those that want to not worry about what goes onto their phone or iPad, this is what's desired. If you want Linux (or ubuntu) on your phone, go for a phone that does not have that.
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I'm not saying the one cancels out the other. I'm just saying people like a thing that works and is easy to use. The iPhone is that. Whether it's open or free doesn't matter to most consumers. This answers the question why people buy these sort of systems in the first place.
When those are the only available devices (Score:2)
why, again, is everyone so keen to buy devices that obey someone else?
Because sometimes only "devices that obey someone else" are available to the public at all. Case in point: Which set-top video game player obeys its owner, as opposed to its manufacturer? Microsoft, Nintendo, and Sony consoles obey their manufacturer, and until very recently (Steam Big Picture), PCs haven't been marketed for set-top gaming use.
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If piracy isn't a factor, it can mean the ecosystem has twice to 10 times the revenue as before.
You appear to assume that every single user who infringes copyright would have paid full price for the software otherwise. Or what am I missing?
Sweet! (Score:2)
I've been waiting for this, if only to run SBSettings on my iPad Mini.
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That is the reason I use Google Voice for my phone number, and have since 2006. I've walked through nearly 5 phones since then, and have thought of them as nothing more than dumb terminals when it comes to the phone feature. Lots of awesome features with Google Voice.
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Why I jailbreak:
* SBSettings (it provides the UI that iOS ought to have had from day 1)
* Shell prompt with BSD userland and a mobile terminal
* OpenSSH
* Autolock settings
* five icon dock
* activator
* remove background
Someone explain this to me... (Score:2)
Re:Someone explain this to me... (Score:4, Insightful)
Perhaps some people prefer the iOS UI and app selection compared to Android on phone-size devices?
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I'll try to answer this...
I love the Apple ecosystem. I have iPads, iPods, iPhones, Apple TVs, MacBooks, etc... I love it all. There are some exceptions, like using Microsoft Office instead of iWork and Mail, but for the most part, I really love Apple's ecosystem.
I don't want to start something here where platforms are argued, and I understand and respect other opinions, but for me... I've always had to use Windows through the years. I've developed for Windows and supported Windows for service and suppo
Android pod touch (Score:2)
Why not buy something else from the get-go?
What is Android's counterpart to the iPod touch (a 4" tablet)?
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Well my reasons:
I actually bought an android device (a Galaxy Note, which I never bothered "jailbreaking" because it was good enough as it was), which I then had stolen.
A colleague gave me a 3GS she had lying around for me to use. It's now mine. However for me to proceed to sell it so that I could purchase another android device would be (in my opinion) a pretty crappy thing to do. So I'm stuck with it for now (and not ungrateful at all, it's a decent phone and it was free).
My point being many people will h
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Because Android makers are in a phallus measuring contest and its sucks.
If you want a decent phone with a usable sized screen (and none of thise "phablet" crap sized screen), Android goes right out of the door. A flagship Android phone with a 4" screen? Doesn't exist anymore - all Androids that are good ha
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Like this you mean? [gsmarena.com]
Leave Apple aloooone! (Score:2, Funny)
Apple has lost 1/3 of its value since Fall of 2012. I think we should give them a little slack. More than half their profits come from the one product, the iPhone. They have a lot of exposure to changing tastes, and their sales projections for iPhones in China were way missed. Investors are getting out of Apple faster than a drunk junior gets out of a prom dress. Their management is probably suffering from PTSD right about now, so we probably shouldn't hold their behavior against them.
I'm one of those anti-apple apple users (Score:1)
Irresponsible disclosure (Score:3, Insightful)
This is rarely mentioned in these types of stories, but I think it's worth highlighting: jailbreaks are security vulnerabilities. If these guys know about a security vulnerability but are deliberately postponing release so that Apple don't patch it before 6.1 is released, they are deliberately choosing a course of action that harms users. Are there any other situations in which irresponsible disclosure is so accepted, or is it just when Apple are the target?
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Happens on Android as well in order to root them
Broken by design (Score:2)