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Apple Patents Page Turn Animation 192

An anonymous reader sends this quote from the NY Times Bits blog: "If you want to know just how broken the patent system is, just look at patent D670,713, filed by Apple and approved this week by the United States Patent Office. This design patent, titled, 'Display screen or portion thereof with animated graphical user interface,' gives Apple the exclusive rights to the page turn in an e-reader application. ... Apple argued that its patented page turn was unique in that it had a special type of animation other page-turn applications had been unable to create." The article doesn't really make it clear, but this is for the UI design of showing a page being turned, not the actual function of moving from one page to another. That said, the patent itself cites similar animations in Flash from 2004.
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Apple Patents Page Turn Animation

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  • Re:Hyperbole (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Nerdfest ( 867930 ) on Friday November 16, 2012 @07:22PM (#42007665)

    I frequently hear here that algorithms were explicitly excluded from patent protection.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 16, 2012 @08:21PM (#42008307)
    Who decides what is "close enough"? If i want to make a page animation, how do I know I am not infringing? Does the patent list the exact set of design features that must be met to satisfy infringement? What if my animation has all of those features except 1, am I infringing? What is to stop Apple from suing me anyway because I cannot afford to defend in court?
  • Broken Patent System (Score:3, Interesting)

    by SmaryJerry ( 2759091 ) on Friday November 16, 2012 @08:37PM (#42008433)
    I can't count the number of times that I've thought of a great idea and it turns out it exists already and is patented. The point of the patent system is to prevent copying but in a world of 7 billion people, 300 million in the united states, many ideas are going to overlap and occur independently. Each and every one of us has had great ideas and then looked it up only to find that it already exists; this is proof that the patent system is broken. In order for something to be patented it needs to be truelly original. It is criminal to allow the patent office to issue patents only based on the fact they assume other people are to stupid to think it or haven't filed paperwork to patent it because it is so obvious. Sure the average person might be, but I bet there are literally hundreds of thousands of coders would replicate the same algorithm if they worked on the same problem. So how can they patent something so rediculously easy to create for so many people? Because they assume everyone is average when they approve these patents. The patent office needs to take into account that a patent must be original to experts in the field, not just an average person, which doesn't appear to be the case. If we can make the patent process legitimate in the first place we would not have to worry about these battles over a few lines of code or patenting a 5 cent additional part and claiming it's an original idea. The patent offices need to take into account the value. How valuable is that algorithm? E.G. how much would you ahve to pay an expert before he thinks of it? For something like this, maybe $500, or a week or less worth of work/coding by one person. Could you replicate that process with any other expert? If so, then don't grant that patent. Is it really so valuable of an idea that every person in the US should be banned from implementing it? They should be ashamed to give patents for something so easily replicated and should think much harder about what it means to invent something. Inventing isn't being the first or only one to submit a piece of paper with specific words. Inventing is finding something that not one in the other 300 million people (or 7 billion) could think. If it doesn't pass that test, don't give it a patent!
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 16, 2012 @08:51PM (#42008597)

    > Who decides what is "close enough"?

    Jurors like Velvin Hogan. Yeah, you might remember that guy who ruled in favor of Apple and is now being accused of misconduct for having ignored the judge's instructions, having told the other jurors false things about what the law says, and having intentionally withheld important information during voire dire, among other things.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 16, 2012 @09:57PM (#42009139)

    I hate page turn animations. They are pointless transition elements that should die with print media. Let the digital age be one of an instantly displayed next page!

  • Re:-1, Sensational (Score:4, Interesting)

    by sjames ( 1099 ) on Saturday November 17, 2012 @01:15AM (#42010081) Homepage Journal

    And I hate that THIS has to be explained repeatedly:

    There is no obligation to behave in an unethical, immoral, or even obnoxious manner, legal or not. In theory, a corporate charter must be in the public interest and a corporation DOES have an obligation to see to it that it does operate in the public interest. The public retains (but all too rarely exercises) the right to dissolve the charter if that better serves the public interest. Just following orders is decidedly NOT an excuse.

Perfection is acheived only on the point of collapse. - C. N. Parkinson