Foxconn Denies Plans For New US Operations 96
pigrabbitbear writes with an update to the story, based on a DigiTimes report, that iPhone maker Foxconn would be opening a new factory in the U.S.
"Foxconn makes a lot of stuff, but as it's one of Apple primary manufacturing partners, lots of people jumped to the salacious conclusion that a U.S.-based Foxconn factory could finally produce an American-made iPhone. Foxconn denied the DigiTimes report today. A company spokeswoman told CNET that the company actually 'already has multiple facilities based in the U.S.' but that 'there are no current plans to expand our operations there at this time.' Foxconn doesn't make iPhones in the existing U.S. factories, and they don't plan to."
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Shut up, Elop, and jump off your burning platform like you preached.
Re:A "salacious" report? (Score:5, Informative)
But of course!
1. lustful or lecherous.
2. (of writings, pictures, etc.) obscene; grossly indecent.
Some people harbor the fallacious belief that Slashdot has editors.
slightly off-topic (Score:5, Interesting)
I've always been curious why the manufacturing outfit is named "FOX"conn. In Chinese folklore, (which is apolitical and applies equally to mainland as well as Taiwan) foxes have a notorious reputation as agents of evil. In stories, the fox spirit, "hu li jin" often takes human form as a young, nubile, seductress and sets out to corrupt scholars and governing officials. Or maybe I'm reading too much into it. Afterall, the most successful tech company stateside is named after the fruit that caused Man's expulsion from paradise according to the bible.
Re:slightly off-topic (Score:5, Interesting)
I am not sure if you can really split up a word like that. But in answer to your question, fox is known for in cunningness (it is the same as the west).
Re:slightly off-topic (Score:4, Funny)
When the Fox News is seen in the wild, it shows its ability to ignore all threats by assuming it is the alpha of everything around it.
It is an interesting defense mechanism which seems to work on 47% of the people in the USA.
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What company is named "Fruit of The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil"?
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Re:slightly off-topic (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:slightly off-topic (Score:5, Informative)
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Think a lot doesn't necessary mean think profound or even think sensible. :-p It's Friday and I've got nothing better to do. Damn, slashdot! I can't believe you gave my brain fart a +5 interesting. Does this mean I'm really good or really bad at trolling?
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/b/ never was good.
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Think a lot doesn't necessary mean think profound or even think sensible. :-p It's Friday and I've got nothing better to do. Damn, slashdot! I can't believe you gave my brain fart a +5 interesting. Does this mean I'm really good or really bad at trolling?
Points deserved. I have also sometimes thought about the origins of the company's name, thanks for bringing it into the discussion.
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It was still named by a chinese speaker though. If Fox was evil in chinese folklore, no way would they have named it foxconn.
Re:slightly off-topic (Score:5, Informative)
Afterall, the most successful tech company stateside is named after the fruit that caused Man's expulsion from paradise according to the bible.
There are no references within canon Christian or Jewish mythology that identifies what the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil actually was.
Going full circle back to the fox (Score:2)
That's OK, because there are plenty of references in Kanon to marrying fox spirits manifesting as teenage girls.
Re:slightly off-topic (Score:5, Interesting)
Although there is a reason that apples are identified as that fruit: it's a horrible Latin pun [wikipedia.org].
Unfortunately the difference is in the diatric marks over the letter and Slashdot can't figure out how to deal with UTF-8 because they might have to look up the BIDI control characters, but basically "apple" and "evil" are both "malum" (but with a different sounding "a", I guess) in Latin.
It can also be traced to Greek mythology, but I like the idea of it being a bad Latin pun that everyone latched on to.
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It's just a phonetic approximation of Fu Shi Kang
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Maybe "salacious" is the correct word then :) Foxy lady!
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Well, that would explain the actions of Foxconn that are less than honest or honorable towards their workers.
US IS A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY! (Score:3, Interesting)
OK, so all those snarky posts about how the U.S. is a worthless third world country because Foxconn was going to open factories here?
GUESS WHAT: Now the U.S. is a worthless third world country because Foxconn isn't going to open factories here!
That's the beuatiful thing about already have a predetermined conclusion, the facts always fit.
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i guess it does get cold there
Especially around the first and, for now, last facility on Earth that launches humans into space. And on top of about 1/5 of the world's Uranium.
Some jokes aren't nearly as funny if people who hear them aren't ridiculously ignorant.
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Consider your observation. Surely there were a
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Many of us liberals tend to claim the intellectual/rational high ground. If that is indeed the case, then we should expect to hold ourselves to a higher standard as well. And when we are wrong we should be the first to admit it, not the first to point out how often others are wrong.
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That seems to be the plan. You don't get a Congo sized difference in wealth between the rich and poor without the majority losing their standard of living.
It was according to "Market Watchers" (Score:4, Interesting)
So who Watches the Market Watchers?
Someone trolled Digitimes well apparently. Everybody got their ad clicks in already. I don't know if anyone "loses face" in events like this. Does the media care about posting incorrect stories?
Slavery laws are too strict (Score:3, Funny)
Lots of gullible people, like slashdot (Score:2)
Re:Lots of gullible people, like slashdot (Score:5, Informative)
Slashdot is a Dice Holdings, Inc. company
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US slaped by market invisible hand (Score:5, Insightful)
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The only hopes to bring back production in the US are a huge raise in transport costs (as if we ran out of oil for instance), or to give up on worldwide free trade.
Or human rights tariffs, which bring goods from countries competing by abusing their workers into cost parity with goods made in countries where workers have rights.
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by "abusing their workers" you mean "substantially improving their standard of living"
1) At least I exist. You don't, so you're not permitted to have an opinion. Log in or stop using words like "you". You don't get to tell me what you mean when you're too scared to log in and put your name to your ignorance.
2) China clearly does not give one tenth of one fuck about its people. Indeed, its people generally don't seem to give one tenth of one fuck about one another. Kind of like here. Indeed, China does everything it can to prevent its citizens from actually improving their lives, because if t
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Or insert pro-union agitators into China.
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Or insert pro-union agitators into China.
Then market invisible hand will move factories to Vietnam, North Korea, Niger, or whatever. Whatever salaries workers ask, there is always someone poorer ready to bid for lower
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give up on worldwide free trade.
Or human rights tariffs, which bring goods from countries competing by abusing their workers into cost parity with goods made in countries where workers have rights.
I assumed that US workers would not accept to sleep at the factory, cut meat in their diet by a factor ten (or more!), work 60 hours per weeks while exposed to hazardous chemicals, and have children as coworkers. I assumed that facing such a situation, people would elect someone that would fight free trade, but I could be wrong
Clearly it's because of the election (Score:4, Insightful)
The plan was that if Mitt Romney was elected president, Foxconn would start building dormitories in the US.
They wanted to "partner" with the new private prison industry and have a two-fer.
Now those dreams are shattered because Americans are getting all uppity again that Obama's re-elected. Thinking that workers deserve "rights" and "safety" and "dignity" and all that liberal crapola. So Foxconn's going to go all Galt on our ass and keep their operations in a country that really understands the endgame of capitalism: China.
No joke.
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Please just shut the fuck up. It's really gotten old.
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I'm sorry, you're right. I should have been more sensitive, Mrs Romney.
From Terry Gou (Score:1)
2010 Terry Gou: 'If I can automate in the US and ship to China, cost-wise it can still be competitive. But I worry America has too many lawyers. I don't want to spend time having people sue me every day.'
Nothing about this situation has changed in two years.
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He should be worried more that the US government wouldn't care about silly things like national borders and treat him like he was a part of Al Qaeda.
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labor
Republicans
lol
How the U.S. Lost Out on iPhone Work (Score:5, Insightful)
Quote: [nytimes.com]
The answer is: tons of slaves. (Score:3)
That boils down to large and pliant labor pool that won't ask questions about bad conditions.
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That boils down to large and pliant labor pool that won't ask questions about bad conditions.
Did you know that working at Foxconn makes for a better salary and conditions than most other manufacturing plants in China? This is why workers line up for hours whenever they're hiring and also probably why the suicide rate for Foxconn workers is lower than the national average; and that comparison is indeed valid because their factories are so big they're more like cities.
Communists vs. Unions (Score:2, Insightful)
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China practices totalitarian Communism, which is worse. Given that Foxconn operates in China, the mainland factories are effectively the property of the PRC.
BZZT - Wrong! (Score:2)
Just because a state does not have a favorable climate for employee-side unions does not mean that they don't have employer-side unions such as contract labor.
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As opposed to employer-formed unions such as contract labor, which are used in conjunction with and not covered by RTW?
Never happen with Unions (Score:1)
Could you imagine how much an iPhone would cost if it was build with unionized American labor?
My guess would be about $12,000 for a crap model.
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Economists estimate it would cost $70 more. We get it, you hate american workers. Could you at least be close to reality, though.
But it WOULD be hilarious (Score:4, Funny)
To watch the lemming herd of slacktards at Occupy Wall St tweet on their new $2,000 US built iPhones that they didn't pay for either about the fucking evil that is money.