Apple Expanding NC Green Data Center 34
The North Carolina data center that Apple has touted as especially earth-friendly (for having biogas-fueled generators, for one thing) will soon have a smaller companion; Apple is expanding its presence, according to filings reported over at Slash DataCenter, with another 21,000-plus square foot facility at the same site. "Apple also plans to build a hydrogen fuel-cell facility in the area, at least based on other filed permits. That would complement the solar-array installations under construction. Apple has claimed that some 60 percent of the data center facility’s power will be generated onsite. As it stands now, the Maiden facility already incorporates energy-efficient design elements, including real-time energy monitoring and analytics."
Re:And the Other 40%? (Score:5, Interesting)
Apple has claimed that some 60 percent of the data center facility’s power will be generated onsite.
So the other 40% will come from FoxConn's Matrix Facility?
It'll be coming from the smog-enshrouded shack out back, surrounded by oil drums labeled "Do NOT open under ANY circumstances!"
Nah, probably just off the grid .. it's not totally green, it's just greenER.
Meanwhile, while noodling around Sonoma County in my greenhouse gas emitting vehicle, I found an entire ranch being powered by 1 wind turbine. Very impressive feat. I wonder if they ship their excess to the grid for a few bucks. Some of these turbines crank out 1.5 megawatts and this one was turning at a pretty fair clip.
Green Apple data center? (Score:4, Funny)
Why don't we just call it the Granny Smith Data Center?
Or the GSDC for short.
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*dons asbestos flame retardant clothing* Well, the Apple fanboys are gonna hate this... I'll be impressed if my reply last 5 minutes before getting modded into oblivion... but the truth is, you're going easy on them.
Don't forget their solution to suiciding workers due to poor working conditions was to install netting outside the buildings... and only started to address poor working conditions at the FoxConn plant after Jon Stewart and a host of other journalists named and shamed their practices. And those
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It's like the smog you see in the opening scenes for the Fifth Element.
I just watched that movie last night, and the opening scenes were first in Egypt, then outer space and whatever the capitol of the world was. The only thing that resembled smog was called fog, when Willis was running from the cops.
I think you're confusing it with Blade Runner. US cities used to look like that before the EPA was established.
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To be fair, it turns out that much of the reporting of the "poor working conditions" you refer to was from Mike Daisey, who, as it turns out, just made stuff up because it made a better storyline for his one-man show cf. Slashdot: This American Life Retracts Episode On Apple Factories In China [slashdot.org]
A Person Who Lies is a Liar [Re:Hypocritics!] (Score:2)
Kind of like you making shit up about what he did? His failing is that he didn't independently verify some of what was reported to him by workers in the factories.
Well, he said he personally met people that he did not meet, and that they told him their stories, when these people did not exist and the stories were things that he made up based on rumors he'd heard.
He also lied about the name of the translator who was with him during these purported interviews, and when "This American Life" asked to contact her to check the facts of the story, he told them she'd moved, changed her phone number, and could not be contacted, when when she had not changed her phone number n
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I don't think my post lasted 5 minutes before being modded into oblivion by the apple fanboi base. Dare to speak against the holy temple? Troll! Is there truth in what you say? Doesn't matter, bury it anyways!!!!!
Ghandi said it best. "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win".
Man ... (Score:2)
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Indeed. I'm sure that once they factor this into their ever-so-accurate estimates [datacenterknowledge.com], they'll have numbers indicating this data center consumes more energy than the state of Texas.
Bullshit As Usual (Score:1)
They're using "bio gas", solar panels, and hydrogen fuel cells.
All of these things are terrible in terms of efficiency when you consider the production of the gas, the panels, and the fuel cells.
The cleanest, most efficient forms of energy we have today are nuclear and hydroelectric, by far.
It's too bad the environmentalist morons who don't actually understand the fucking environment let alone a dam or an atom won't let us use them.
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Smash those atoms or GTFO.
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What it does is change the local ecosystem from one state to another. That is harmful in the short term for species adapted to the previous state of the ecosystem, but beneficial for species adapted to the new state. Neither state is better. They are just different.
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The cleanest, most efficient forms of energy we have today are nuclear and hydroelectric, by far.
Uh no. The cleanest, most efficient forms of energy we have today are solar (preferably combination PV/thermal) and wind, by far.
It's too bad the environmentalist morons who don't actually understand the fucking environment let alone a dam or an atom won't let us use them.
Most of the people behind the environmental movement are a hell of a lot smarter than you are. They understand that dams do damage and that nuclear reactors managed by man and built by either the lowest bidder or the largest provider of pork are inherently unsafe due to human issues.
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LOL Solar panels shit on the environment during production far more than they will ever help during their lifetimes.
Wind farms only work in few places, take up tons of space, and require constant maintenance and oiling.
Keep swallowing that agenda, though.
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LOL Solar panels shit on the environment during production far more than they will ever help during their lifetimes.
Thin-film solar PV panels pay off the energy cost of their production in three years and last for 15 or more.
Wind farms only work in few places
good thing we know how to move power around, then.
take up tons of space
What a colossally stupid thing to say. I guess you've never actually seen a wind farm, have you? The windmills use very little space. The space below them is still usable for many purposes, notably farming or ranching.
and require constant maintenance and oiling
Oh no, not oiling! We've only had the technology to do that for thousands of years!
Wake me up when you have something intelligent to sa
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Green hydro is quite practical without fucking up rivers.
Check these folks out, especially the antique but highly effective machine tools and power generation components they use!
http://www.frenchriverland.com/machine_shop.htm [frenchriverland.com]
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The obstacle to nuclear isn't so much political as it is expensive. The start-up investment in building a nuclear reactor facility is massive, and the per-kw cost savings of generating power from nuclear isn't so great that it makes the investors a pile of money right away.
Check this wikipedia article about the economics of nuclear power plants. [wikipedia.org] Here is a choic
I wonder... (Score:4, Funny)
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Built to Last (Score:3)
When I first came here, this was all swamp. Everyone said I was daft to build a data center on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. And that's what you're going to get, lad, the greenest data center in all of North Carolina!
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