iOS 6 Beta 3 Jailbroken Already 68
hypnosec writes "Apple launched the iOS 6 Beta 3 just a couple of days back, and the redsn0w team has given out a jailbreak for the latest version of iOS 6 already. The only downside is that this is a tethered jailbreak, which means you will have to make sure your phone is connected to the computer whenever you need to reboot it."
Good job (Score:5, Funny)
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Actually... this uses the limera1n exploit path, which is only for older devices, and exploits a hardware flaw. There's nothing Apple can do to fix it, and it doesn't burn an exploit.
Stop tethered jb news (Score:5, Insightful)
Can we stop this already? There is really much less of a technical challenge to make tethered jailbreak working, and much less interesting to the jb community.
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The above is not true. Making an untethered jailbreak from a tethered jailbreak is not a challenge, it's just annoying to do.
Re:Stop tethered jb news (Score:4, Informative)
You don't know how wrong you are. There are so many things I think Slashdotters would appreciate knowing about the iOS jailbreak process:
1) The "Tethered" (easy) jailbreaks only work on pre-2011 devices.
2) 2011 and later device can only be freed using "untethered" jailbreaks.
3) "Untethered" jailbreaks using Apple's copyrighted code usually happen first, but are not distributed because they would be subject to DMCA takedown. The hackers want to do this legit.
3) Making the last untethered jailbreak (whether for the "tethered" pre-2011 devices or the other ones) actually involved what appears to me at least to be a spectacularly complicated process:
http://pod2g-ios.blogspot.com/2012/01/details-on-corona.html [blogspot.com]
TL;DR is that untethering iOS devices is spectacularly difficult, especially due to the fact that at least one of the best jailbreakers has been hired by apple [engadget.com].
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It's only about finding a security bug in existing apple programs and exploiting it. Once you've found a buffer overflow, it is known how to make use pf it. Then this is just used as a "gate" to install the actual jailbreak.
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It's substantially more complicated than that. If it were as simple as every buffer overflow being exploitable in this way, then jailbreaks would come thick and fast after every release.
With iOS you have:
(a) stack is never executable, so all payload must be ret-to-libC style
(b) consequently, because user space address layout is randomized with about 8 bits of entropy, you have to find a way to leak address of a symbol, or else find some more sophisticated exploit
(c) even if you defeat above, you still only
So in other words... (Score:4, Informative)
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[1]: Along with SHAtter. Screw you, Geohot, for blowing a low level exploit because of your ego.
To be fair, it's possible SHAtter and limera1n would have been plugged at the same time by the same fix.
They both depend on bugs in the firmware read-back mode code in DFU mode. Limera1n exploits a bug in which the direction bit of the USB transfer is automatically trusted to match the command type, and SHAtter exploits a bug in which the read index offset (a global variable) is not reset after each call to re-initialize the USB code in the outer loop. Both bugs were "fixed" by the removal of the firmware r
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second HN reference from an AC in two days (possibly more).
i can't be bothered googling it. i'm just gonna assume astroturf and move on.
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Should be called "Y-Combinator Startup News" - very little of interest unless you follow "web-fad-of-the-week" companies and have a raging hard-on for social media bullshit.
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As an AppleTV owner I care. The hardware is pretty decent, and the add-ons are where the real value is (xbmc for example).
I'm not interested in apple's locked in system and really unhappy with the cat-and-mouse game of apple trying to "close" the system. I had an auto-update break my xbmc once, then i spent a lot of time trying to fix it. flashing the appletv involves sending a signature to apple to confirm this is a valid IOS to load.
This whole 'dmca' type stuff is nonsense. if i bough the hardware, wh
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Who says they do? It doesn't do what they want it to do, so it gets jailbroken.
Re:Why Jailbreak? (Score:5, Interesting)
"Why sell me something, then attempt to force me do do only what you want with it?"
Are you serious?
Because that's what they advertised it to do.
Because that's what they have to guarantee it do.
Because that's what they have to support it to do.
Letting you do whatever you want with it undermines their ability ensure it does what it should during their legal warranty period and beyond. What do you think happens when an infrastructure update breaks on your device because you've screwed with it - and you bitch and moan all over internets !
Having said that, I am strongly of the 'open hardware' view but I do understand their business problem - definitely not a apple fanboi so don't go there
Ideally they really need to sell 'open' hardware at a premium (for lost revenue stream that otherwise subsidises the hardware) with no warranty/no support and let you do whatever you want with it - basically the PC hardware model.
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Ideally they really need to sell 'open' hardware at a premium (for lost revenue stream that otherwise subsidises the hardware) with no warranty/no support and let you do whatever you want with it - basically the PC hardware model.
Who's to say they don't already? Knowing how to "jailbreak" is the cost of entry. Look at the OSX86 world. It's not like every OS update they're making it impossible to do with installation keys and a phone home. If you make it so that anyone can do it I'm suddenly going to get support calls from my aunts who read all the cool stuff you can do with the iPhone. Toss it behind a 'jail break' and they suddenly automatically remove the warranty issues, idiots that don't know what they're doing, etc.
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Re:Why Jailbreak? (Score:4, Interesting)
Most of the JB-ers have never touched Installious. In fact, if the Dev Team could block that thing from being installed, they could. JB-ing != pirating.
Want to know the reason I JB? Simple. There are a number of apps that make life easier. That, plus I like full control of my device. Simple things like tarring up some files or having a very secure stash for my gpg keys (where I can pipe files through a ssh to the device for signing/decryption) that are doable with a UNIX prompt, but no apps.
As for JB apps, here are a few:
1: 3G Unrestrictor -- I pay per gig for bandwidth, if I want to download a multi-gig app, I should be able to.
2: iBlacklist. iOS6 has rudimentary functionality for dealing with unwanted callers, but there are some numbers which you don't want to hear or read texts from, period. Having an app for that is a lot cheaper than getting a restraining order.
3: AppBackup. There is no way on iOS to copy off a game's save files, delete the app, then later on, reinstall the app and have the save files at the ready. Yes, a few apps store their files in Documents, but that is the exception.
4: Backgrounder. Woodall's Maps needs to have foreground access to complete its large downloads, so either have to keep it in the foreground, or use an app to make it think it is there.
5: Protect My Privacy. iOS hands out contact info freely to any app that asks for it. This protects against spamming of contacts.
6: Firewall IP. You would be SHOCKED at what apps try to connect to. Way too many targeting, tracking and ad sites.
So, don't assume all jailbreakers are pirates. Most of us actually pay for what we use.
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apt-get. Cydia is based on the .deb. I'm still waiting for apt-get for my Android. I don't care if it's a 3rd party app but it's awesome to be able to just install stuff through apt-get (just like it is on the desktop). Someone needs to start a debian apt repository with android compiled binaries so that when I need the latest bash or coreutils It doesn't take a few minutes of googling and stuff. Plus automatic updates.
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If Apple fans are so annoying, why are you trying to bait them? They're just going to talk more.
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Jailbreaking has added little to my user experience, but being able to display free memory and your IP and whatnot in the statusbar is convenient for mobile dev. It's also nice to be able to SSH into the machine, poke around in app data and SCP it off to your workstation for further pokery on a system with real software.
But yeah, hooray for supposed perfection, hypocrisy inherent in the system, stick it to the man, lol@fanboyz!!11elevenoneone, etc.
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I jailbroke mine so that I can use a different cell company from the one I got my phone from. It was locked.
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Why jailbreak an iOS device?
My job involves benchmarking web pages loading on a celular connection. Real connections have very high variance, so that tests run a minute appart can not be compared. I run dummynet on the phone to simulate a cellular connection in a controlled, repeatable way. Running dummynet requires jail-breaking the device on iOS 5 and below.
As a user, I see no reason to jailbreak, and I would never use a jailbroken device. As a developer, I need to modify low level settings to understand how decices behave.
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This is the highest density of canned Apple flamebait I have seen to date.
There is a solution to the tethered jailbreak ... (Score:2, Interesting)
Get a phone from a company whose policies don't fucking suck, and where you can install whatever fucking software you want without the need to find a vulnerability.
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I don't believe there's an Android app for "perceived social acceptance." :(
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What? Maybe it's because I don't give a fuck what other people think, or about what's socially acceptable, I have way too much important stuff to do to care about such mundane concepts, but I don't really understand your post. Like, at all. Care to elaborate on that?
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Generally speaking, it was a joke about/a cheap shot at people who buy Apple products, based on some anecdotal evidence.
The situation that stands out the most to me happened a few months back when I was having a discussion about mobile tech with one of my friend's siblings (who is in the 16-19 year old range). He was rocking a iPhone and studio-style Beats Audio headphone combo. When I explained to him that for the features he cared about, he could have gotten a set of actual professional studio headphones
Re:There is a solution to the tethered jailbreak . (Score:5, Interesting)
Why is it that there are so many foul mouthed, rabid comments by detractors of iOS all over the interwebs? I would like to believe that these folks are paid shills; it would make more sense.
I love FOSS, I run Ubuntu Linux on a Mac Pro, and I own a jailbroken iPhone on which I can install whatever I want using dpkg and apt-get (yes, Debian tools are the jailbreakers' favorite ones).
I have tried Android, and while I love the fact that Android is based on Linux, I have found that a jailbroken iPhone offers me much of the same flexibility.
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Not shills... Neckbeards who have associated their identity with Android. In a word: Fanboids.
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"detractors of ios?"
Detractors ... interesting. You are using the same words as crazy christians who thing anybody that doesn't validate their imaginary friend is attacking them.
Good choice of words if you ask me, Apple is a religion.
Re:There is a solution to the tethered jailbreak . (Score:4, Insightful)
I can install whatever fucking software I want. It's called a developer license.
Seriously, WTF is your problem at all? I've yet to find a software outside the App Store (i.e. available only for jailbroken iPhones or iPads) that I really need.
So, for all practical purposes, there is no issue here. I do see the philosophical argument, which is why my heart is with the jailbreakers. But for my day-to-day usage, I don't need it, and neither do millions of other people. So why are you so angry?
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You know that ain't true. It's the other way around. You install what's available, and ask yourself, why would I ever need anything again?
Truth is, it's enough for your average joe, but not for nerds.
I'm running a full Debian install on top of my Ice Cream Sandwich install on my Galaxy. That includes Apache, mysql and PHP. It's a portable webserver, and it comes in handy more than once when you are a dev. Try doing that on your phone ...
Anyway, you started your post with "it's called a developer license". Y
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You know that ain't true. It's the other way around. You install what's available, and ask yourself, why would I ever need anything again?
You can't read my mind, so stop projecting yours.
I don't use an iPad as my main computer, I need it as a mobile device for when I'm on the road. I have a developer license specifically so I can write stuff for myself that's not available. Know what? I've yet to find something non-trivial that I need and that's not there. Most of what I'd love to see is iPad ports of software I use on my main computer. The issue with that is never the App Store and never will.
No, I'll be honest, thinking about it there is in
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Mod story Troll.
Is the purpose of this story a mystery to anyone. It's like ad TV reruns...
Strange cookie behavior in linked site (Score:3)
There is something wierd in linked site: http://paritynews.com/software/item/66-ios-6-beta-3-jailbroken-already [paritynews.com]
It displays a warning at the bottom of the page telling site experience is better with cookies enabled. There are two buttons to allow for this site or allow for all, both linking to "#" without javascript onclick. Probably harmless, but weird.
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Tethered jailbreak? (Score:2)
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Hence, the name "tethered."
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No, piracy is not the only reason. There are many legitimate purposes for an iOS jailbreak.
This is non-news for this reason.. (Score:2)
What is not clear from the summary, is that the iPhone 4 and below have bootrom level exploits. For the newer 3GS and all the 4's these are tethered type exploits. They are in the hardware and cannot be flashed to fix or changed in any normal firmware update.
What this means is every single version you can install on these phones will be jailbroken the minute the redsn0w maintainer checks compatibility and adds probably a line of code allowing this version.
Since iOS 303087475.1.1 will be jailbreakable instan
I hate jailbreaking (Score:3, Insightful)
Frankly, I wish jailbreaking an iOS device was impossible. Why? Because it might actually stop people from considering iOS devices as worth buying, because of what they can do when jailbroken. As long as its easy to climb over the walls the gardener builds around his garden, far fewer people care that the walls are there in the first place.
As users, we should have the ability to run whatever damn software we please on the hardware we've bought. And no, we shouldn't have to hack our devices for that privilege. Yes, even software that the platform vendor doesn't approve of.
(Every time Microsoft even ponders things for PCs that vaguely resemble what Apple does on iOS, the community screams for blood. I only wish the same level of anger, from the same individuals, would get pointed at Apple once in a while.)
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That's because a PC is not a phone. A personal computer is supposed to be a general purpose computer. I don't give a damn about jailbreaking my phone, I just want something that calls, does texts, and which I can run some useful applications, and I just want it to work. I wa
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But these phones are sold as general purpose smart phones - they list their speed, memory, storage and other low level hardware specifications. I do care that my phone is able to do the things I want to do with it or make it possible to do them. Being able to SCP files to and from your phone and have your media library update, without itunes like applications is awesome.