Apple To Unveil iOS 6 At WWDC 2012 110
redletterdave writes "At next week's WWDC 2012 in San Francisco, Apple is expected to unveil new laptops, desktops, accessories, and software features for its Mac OS X platform. But on Friday afternoon, several pictures surfaced on Twitter showing banners released around Moscone West in San Francisco, saying 'iOS 6: The world's most advanced mobile operating system.'"
I'll be there, however (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I'll be there, however (Score:5, Funny)
In before the Anti-Apple rants.
Slashdot: Where nerds prance around being smug and hip by blaming the users of Apple products of being smug and hip.
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In before the Anti-Apple rants. I'll be at the event early Monday in line, wearing the Android and Apple logo making out t-shirt. Pray for me, as I'll be trolling the event the entire week with my free pass ;)
Which one is the "daddy" and which is the "babysitter"? Is there one with the Microsoft logo watching...chainsaw in hand?
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Which one is the "daddy" and which is the "babysitter"? Is there one with the Microsoft logo watching...chainsaw in hand?
You have a very peculiar idea of what "making out" means. Please stay away from me.
Can it multitask yet? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Can it multitask yet? (Score:5, Funny)
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Yes, that's an iOS 4 feature.
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No it doesn't. I went through a couple headline Android devices before I switched to an iPhone 4, and neither lasted a whole day without an afternoon top-up.
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So tell me again what you can't do with the iOS's "fake" multitasking?
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That's a problem with AIM. I don't have any problem with Yahoo chat. If AIM can't reliably deliver messages when it's not active, how well do you think it would work if your phone is off? What would happen on either the iPhone or Android if the OS decided to kill the process to free up memory? An iOS app doesn't even have to be running for you to be notified if there is message. Don't you think that is slightly more efficient than have 10 apps running just to check messages?
Least surprising thing ever (Score:5, Funny)
It's like putting together an article proclaiming there will, in fact, be a next week next week.
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It's like putting together an article proclaiming there will, in fact, be a next week next week.
Ah, but while next week may be a lot like this week, the new system will be more advanced than the old system.
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If you don't have a smartphone, and you only played with an android, you don't know the difference.
Therefor, you are just a toy.
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GP said "I've used both".
I've also used both. There are nice things about iOS. It's definitely prettier (though ICS is damn slick) and slightly 'smoother'. For features that matter, though -- such as being able to use my own hardware the way I want to -- Android wins hands down.
--Jeremy
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I've also used both. There are nice things about iOS. It's definitely prettier (though ICS is damn slick) and slightly 'smoother'.
And more stable. I only know 2 people in real life that have Androids, and in the short time I've seen each of them using the things, they've both had to restart them. Both whilst using them as Satnavs. I don't know if the instability is limited to sat nav - it's just the only time I ever see anyone using an Android. Oh, and the GPS accuracy in both cases was appalling too.
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Relax, it's just marketing fluff. Every company does this with their products.
I'm curious what you mean by "getting stuff done" when using a phone, though. What "stuff" are you trying to "get done" that iOS can't do for you?
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I have owned both (and used a number of ICS devices) and feel far more comfortable in iOS. Maybe that is familiarity, but most of it is fluidity. I have to use crappy Windows and Linux environments all day. Something that feels more fluid, consistent, and integrated is most welcome when I finish work and am reunited with my mobile devices.
And ? (Score:2)
And ? (Score:1)
Whats your point? You just explained something everyone already knows. Yes its an opinion.. Duh ! Are you retarded? Did you think comments on a website were somehow scientific literature?
To get back on-topic. I am fairly interested in seeing what services Apple does end up replacing in iOS6. I guess the most likely is their mapping service. Suddenly location information is the new 'hot-cakes' as far as data-mining is concerned. Almost every freaking app is trying to get my GPS location.
On another note, I wi
The Tagline Says it All (Score:2, Funny)
Nobody sucks Apple's dick harder than Apple.*
:D
Nobody.
* OK, so technically that applies to the marketing department of, well, everyone who does marketing... but we're not discussing them now, are we?
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You gotta admit, technically they're right.
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You gotta admit, technically they're right.
Technically the statement is subjective (especially considering we're talking about software that hasn't even been released yet), and thus incapable of being either right or wrong.
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Technically, they can't be proven wrong, so they might as well be right in the eyes of their customers.
Just like pretty much every religion.
--Jeremy
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No, technically they are wrong. iOS is a hacked version of Mach and BSD, Objective-C, and NeXTStep libraries. Apple has done a good job on the engineering side, improving both the user experience and the quality of the code. But in no sense of the word is iOS "advanced". And even when it come to features, they have been a generation or two behind Android release on features like multitasking, notifications, background operations, and APIs.
is this fixed? (Score:2, Interesting)
Can I run any software I want on my own device yet, without having to hack around security meant to give that control to someone else?
If not...no thanks.
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Yeah, you'd have to use the absinthe security patch with version 5.1.1.
Since 6 isn't out yet, we can't exactly speak for it.
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Can I run any software I want on my own device yet, without having to hack around security meant to give that control to someone else?
Yeah, you'd have to use the absinthe security patch with version 5.1.1.
TL:DR?
Obviously.
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Can I run any software I want on my own device yet, without having to hack around security meant to give that control to someone else?
Yes, for an extra $649 (if you don't already own a Mac) plus $99 per year.
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For 120 days, at which point you have to redo the signature. Oh, and you can only give it to a handful of people for the same amount of time.
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For $99 a year you can publish to the app store for a year, so you can give it to any number of people. After which the apps disappear of course. Boo.
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You can't publish any random app to the store, though, it's got to pass Apple's screening.
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That depends on the app. There are lot of "don'ts" in the rules, it's not like anything goes.
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Now go back all the way up to the first post where a question was asked, "can I run any software I want on my own device". Not with the app store, you can't.
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When you move the goal posts, the assumption is that all the previous ones are subsumed in the new one. There still isn't an explanation on how you can run any app that you want and share it with more than 100 people
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Can I run any software I want on my own device yet,
Forget that. Can it display the title of a podcast that's even moderately long?
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Yeah, I embraced smartphones as far as their ability to provide e-mail access, a web browser and GPS/map functions. Very useful.
Downloadable apps tailored for specific needs? Okay, that's cool.
Widgets, animated icons, voice command assistants, high-intensity visual effects... Now you're losing me.
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Why should you have to open an application to get the utility you want from your device? Seems like a rather arbitrary distinction to me.
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As opposed to...? Do you know of a better method?
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Woo Hoo! (Score:2)
The last update upgraded my ATT iPhone 4S from a 3G to 4G! (*holds out phone* See, it says it right here on the bar at the top of the screen. See it?) So, I wonder what I can expect next. Whoa... I'm dizzy....
Re:Woo Hoo! (Score:5, Informative)
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The problem is the that the ITU standard for 4G was based solely on network speed, and not network technology. I don't blame Verizon for calling its LTE network 4G (because it is). I blame the butthurt marketing dickbags at AT&T for re-marketing their crappy 3G network as 4G instead of investing in an authentic 4G network.
Re:Woo Hoo! (Score:4, Interesting)
I blame the butthurt marketing dickbags at AT&T for re-marketing their crappy 3G network as 4G instead of investing in an authentic 4G network.
If you want to point fingers, it kinda sorta goes back to Sprint. They didn't want to invest in their own next-generation data network, so they started using Clearwire's WiMax network for data. Even though the speeds were nothing like the ITU's version of "4G," they started marketing it as such because "hey, it's a generation after 3G so ... it must be 4G."
AT&T and Verizon both planned to invest in LTE for their 4G networks, but poor T-Mobile USA didn't have (or want to spend) the cash for a real next-gen network. So T-Mo looked around and said, "hey, our HSPA+ network is much faster than what Sprint is calling '4G' so ... it must be 4G!"
AT&T had already planned a big LTE investment but it wasn't going to roll out until 2012 so they got tired of having the same thing as T-Mo (HSPA+) but getting beat up by T-Mobile with "we have 4G and you don't" so they sank to T-Mobile's level and started branding HSPA+ as "4G." Not very mature, but hey that's marketing.
And that's how you got to a situation where only two of the four major US carriers have deployed LTE (AT&T and Verizon) but all four claim to have 4G networks. Even better, three of the four all actually claim to have "the nation's largest 4G network." Oh, and to top it all off, all four will have LTE within the next two years but will almost certainly not be calling it the same thing. :-)
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Wi-Max is a 4G technology. Nothing wrong with them marketing it as such.
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I blame anyone who tries to boil down a complex set of technologies into a single incrementing number for the purpose of marketing to idiots.
The same thing happened to CDROM speeds, remember? I remember when a 2X CDROM drive was twice as fast as a 1X. Then, marketing departments figured out that the number before the X didn't really have to measure anything, so they just kept re-labeling their drives with bigger numbers before the X, and it became meaningless.
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But a 1x CD-ROM is 150KiB/s. A 2x CD-ROM is 300KiB/s. A 72x CD-ROM is 10,800KiB/s. The difference between a 20x and a 36x CD-ROM is probably not going to matter to most people, but it is an accurate descriptor for the difference in the two drives.
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Woo hoo!! I can't wait for 5G on my soon to be upgraded iOS 6 iPhone!!!
Siri on the iPad?!? (Score:2)
Wow Siri really offers some killer business features - reminders!!! This article seems like it was stretching to
six? (Score:2, Funny)
I thought we were up to IOS 15.0 [wikipedia.org] now.
"most advanced"? (Score:2, Insightful)
iOS is pretty well engineered and has a good user experience. But "most advanced"? Its technology (Objective-C, Xcode, many of the libraries) come from the 1980's and haven't changed much. Technically, the "most advanced" is probably Windows phone, with its JIT compilers, C# 4.0, and all the other stuff. But "most advanced" rarely results in a good user experience.
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I bet all 3 people that have Windows Phones will be calling Tim Cook to complain.... Too bad they don't have iOS, they could have saved money on messaging with iMessage.
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Your point being... what?
The Apple grows ever more rotten (Score:1)
I've been using solely Apple computers since 1993, and even I am sick of their dumbing down tactics. Many consider Lion to be a step backward from Snow Leopard, and even I consider the changes coming in Mountain Lion to be not in my best interest.
But what's really got my skirt in a bunch is that Apple has forced Craigslist app vendors to remove the ability to easily see the photos in personal ads. The apps that used to show them now either say no ads found, or the picture is greyed out.
The best feature of a
Re:How much? (Score:5, Insightful)
Yeah, people will hate that $0 upgrade fee.
The price sticker will probably say "Free". (Score:5, Informative)
Can anyone zoom in enough to spot the price sticker? I reckon the charge to upgrade for existing users isn't going to go down too well...
The price sticker will probably say "Free".
Apple used to charge iPod touch users for some upgrades due to regulatory/accounting regulations. iPhone users were not subject to this regulation and were not charged. Apple wants people to upgrade iOS, they want as few barriers as possible to upgrades. They are actually somewhat aggressive in pushing users to the most recent version. They don't really want people out there running older versions.
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Can anyone zoom in enough to spot the price sticker? I reckon the charge to upgrade for existing users isn't going to go down too well...
The price sticker will probably say "Free".
Probably right, that is unless the upgrade is unavailable for your device (i.e. older iPhones), or breaks it.
Under those circumstances, I contend the upgrade price will be the price of whatever phone Apple is pimping at the time of iOS 6's release.
Some older iPhone designs are "free" (Score:4, Insightful)
Can anyone zoom in enough to spot the price sticker? I reckon the charge to upgrade for existing users isn't going to go down too well...
The price sticker will probably say "Free".
Probably right, that is unless the upgrade is unavailable for your device (i.e. older iPhones), or breaks it. Under those circumstances, I contend the upgrade price will be the price of whatever phone Apple is pimping at the time of iOS 6's release.
Today Apple is offering an iPhone 3GS 8GB for "free" (with an AT&T plan) and it runs the more recent version of iOS. There will probably be a similar plan for iOS 6.
Personally I wouldn't be surprised if iOS 6 supports the 3GS. The 3GS is basically using the same CPU and GPU architectures as the more modern phones, unlike the discontinued 3G. So unless they want to go pure Retina display there isn't much reason to pass on the 3GS. Now if Apple does go the pure Retina display route then as an iPhone 5 is released the original 4 will probably become the "free" phone and offer iOS 6.
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Personally I wouldn't be surprised if iOS 6 supports the 3GS. The 3GS is basically using the same CPU and GPU architectures as the more modern phones, unlike the discontinued 3G
Good point, hadn't thought of that.
OT: how will prices change with iPhone 5 (& wh (Score:2)
I'll sneak in a somewhat OT question here to take advantage of the expertise of the collective Slashdot hive mind:
- how will the prices for the 3GS and other available (unlocked) iPhones be affected in the near future?
- will the iPhone 5 announcement announcement also be at WWDC?
I'm looking to buy an iPhone 4S for my wife -- unlocked, of course, so we don't have to go begging for the freedom to put any microSIM we want into the phone -- and am wondering whether prices will drop in a few weeks after WWDC, es
Re:The price sticker will probably say "Free". (Score:5, Informative)
It was the Sarbanes/Oxley Act (SOX) that did it. Basically to avoid another Enron-style disaster, they made it that revenue already realized was for product already delivered. Apple at the time chose to recognize the sale of an iPod Touch the instant you bought the iPod Touch. Giving you a new version meant increased functionality which meant that they shouldn't have recognized the entire sale of the product when it was sold and would have to restate earnings to that effect.
The iPhone wasn't covered because revenue for it was being recognized recurringly - every month, so an update to the OS would just count towards that current month's revenue.
Of course, seeing as no one really bothered (you could pirate iOS for the iPod Touch just fine), and seeing how Android updates crashed and burned, I'm guessing Apple redid the way they recognized iPod revenue.
Microsoft, BTW, doesn't do that for its software - it has always recognized revenue from sales of software over 3 years or so, so can keep delivering feature updates.
Oh, and generally, people recognize revenue the moment something is sold, not broken up over a period of months.
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Then how exactly do you justify Windows XP updates being offered for 10 years? I guarantee Microsoft didn't "recognize revenue on Windows XP sales over 10 years". Xbox 360s always got free updates. PS3s always got free updates. Samsung Galaxies always got free updates as long as they felt like offering them. HTC Blue Angels always got free updates. Basically, Apple was the only company that for some reason had Sarbanes-Oxley limitations preventing them giving out free updates. I'm pretty sure Sarbane
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Big woop, I still can't put ICS on my Galaxy Tab.
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Check XDA, been running it for a fair few months now, it's very impressive (Cyanogenmod9)
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Thanks man, have a good weekend.