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Apple and Google Face Salary-Fixing Lawsuit 402

beaverdownunder writes "Google, Apple, Adobe and Intel have been accused of maintaining an agreement not to poach each other's staff, thus restricting increases in salary and restricting career development. California District Judge Lucy Koh has found that the plaintiffs have adequately demonstrated antitrust injury. Sparked by a request from the late Steve Jobs, from 2005 to 2007 the defendants had a 'no cold-call' policy of staff recruitment amongst themselves. Jobs is also alleged to have threatened Palm with litigation for not entering into a 'no cold-call' agreement with Apple." Besides the companies named above, Intuit, Pixar, and Lucasfilm are also involved.
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Apple and Google Face Salary-Fixing Lawsuit

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  • Re:Cold calls? (Score:5, Informative)

    by The Darkness ( 33231 ) on Sunday April 22, 2012 @11:43AM (#39762959) Homepage

    "Hi Mr. X, we'd like to pay you 25% more to come work for us if you're a good fit for the team."

    I love my job and the people I work with, but if Google called with that offer, I would listen. I would be stupid to not listen and at least give my boss the opportunity to make a counter-offer.

  • This is hardly new (Score:5, Informative)

    by ( 245670 ) on Sunday April 22, 2012 @12:06PM (#39763177)

    My grandpa had to move clear across the country back in the 50s because of "no poaching" deals in the aircraft industry on the east coast. The only way to advance was for someone above you in your company to retire/die/quit/get fired then they'd fill the gap. And no worries for the company about having to provide competitive wages. If they caught someone sniffing around another company, the person was fired and blacklisted. If someone from another company came sniffing around, they'd call the other company and the person would be fired and blacklisted. It's pretty close to creating a slave labor force. Sure, the shackles are padded but it's very demoralizing to know that trying to advance your career could end it.

  • by MarkvW ( 1037596 ) on Sunday April 22, 2012 @12:10PM (#39763217)

    You can vote out your government.
    You can't vote a damn thing out of Apple and Google.

    Not a great choice, but by far the best choice we have.

  • by Surt ( 22457 ) on Sunday April 22, 2012 @12:38PM (#39763439) Homepage Journal

    First to resort to Ad Hominem loses. Sorry.

  • by Animats ( 122034 ) on Sunday April 22, 2012 @02:55PM (#39764637) Homepage

    These contracts couldn't ever really work if people were allowed talk salary

    Of course you can talk salary. It's a legal right in the US. (29 U.S.C.157). Here's the NRLB workplace poster []. Report employer violations to 1-866-667-NLRB (6572) .

    Under the NLRA, you have the right to:

    • Organize a union to negotiate with your employer concerning your wages, hours, and other terms and conditions of employment.
    • Form, join or assist a union.
    • Bargain collectively through representatives of employeesâ(TM) own choosing for a contract with your employer setting your wages, benefits, hours, and other working conditions.
    • Discuss your wages and benefits and other terms and conditions of employment or union organizing with your co-workers or a union.
    • Take action with one or more co-workers to improve your working conditions by, among other means, raising work-related complaints directly with your employer or with a government agency, and seeking help from a union.
    • Strike and picket, depending on the purpose or means of the strike or the picketing.
    • Choose not to do any of these activities, including joining or remaining a member of a union.

    Illegal conduct will not be permitted. If you believe your rights or the rights of others have been violated, you should contact the NLRB promptly to protect your rights, generally within six months of the unlawful activity. You may inquire about possible violations without your employer or anyone else being informed of the inquiry. Charges may be filed by any person and need not be filed by the employee directly affected by the violation. The NLRB may order an employer to rehire a worker fired in violation of the law and to pay lost wages and benefits, and may order an employer or union to cease violating the law. Employees should seek assistance from the nearest regional NLRB office, which can be found on the Agencyâ(TM)s Web site: [] You can also contact the NLRB by calling toll-free: 1-866-667-NLRB (6572) or (TTY) 1-866-315-NLRB (1-866-315-6572) for hearing impaired.

    NRLB enforcement was weak under the Bush Administration. Now they're back. Here's a case where an employer fired someone for posting about working conditions on Facebook. The NLRB forced the employer to rehire them with back pay. []

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