Apple Threatens To Pull Siri Clone From App Store 251
daria42 writes "Steve Jobs might not be around any more to enforce some of Apple's stricter policies, but that doesn't mean the company is letting it all hang loose. Overnight the U.K. company which produces a speech recognition app called Evi, which mimics many of the functions of Apple's Siri, confirmed Apple had approached his company letting it know that Evi was being reviewed for possible breaches of Apple's App Store policies. The reason? A clause in the policy which bans apps too similar to Apple's existing software. It does appear to matter to Apple that Siri doesn't function that well in the U.K., because of a lack of good localisation."
Supposedly Evi will be continue to be allowed on iOS if it alters its interface to be dissimilar enough from Siri to placate Apple.
Is this Apple or MS? (Score:5, Insightful)
Sounds like its time for an antitrust case to me.
Re:Is this Apple or MS? (Score:5, Insightful)
Sounds like its time for an antitrust case to me.
Yes,
But Apple has been pulling competing applications from the app store since it's inception, no alterate email clients, SMS clients, diallers, MP3 players, browsers (proper browsers, not viewers for server generated images or window dressing for the existing rendering engine) and others.
The question is, why is Apple even threatening? Their normal procedure is to pull the app, remove it from everyone's phone, revoke the developers key and send an iAssassination squad to eliminate the one who dared defy them.
Has this guy got compromising photos of Tim Cook and Steve Jobs?
Re:Is this Apple or MS? (Score:5, Informative)
But Apple has been pulling competing applications from the app store since it's inception, no alterate email clients, SMS clients, diallers, MP3 players,
That's odd, because you can go to the App Store and find plenty of alternate email clients, diallers, SMS clients, and MP3 players. Plenty that have been there a long time.
browsers (proper browsers, not viewers for server generated images or window dressing for the existing rendering engine) and others.
That's the only one in your list that's true. You are allowed to create alternative browsers, and there are many on the App store. But you're not allowed to put your own browser rendering engine on iOS. In part because it would fall foul of the no interpreters with downloadable content rule.
You are allowed to compete with Apple's own apps on functionality. What you're not allowed to do is to copy the UI of one of Apple's Apps. That's the reason Evi have been asked to change. Because the UI is too much of a Siri copy.
Re:Is this Apple or MS? (Score:4, Informative)
You are allowed to compete with Apple's own apps on functionality. What you're not allowed to do is to copy the UI of one of Apple's Apps. That's the reason Evi have been asked to change. Because the UI is too much of a Siri copy.
Yes because only Apple is allowed to shamelessly copy other's work [cultofmac.com]
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People would have trouble mistaking iBooks for Delicious Library. For one thing they aren't even on the same OS. For another the apps are for entirely different purposes. For another every single thing about the apps is different other than the concept of displaying books on book shelves.
Had the boot been on the other foot (DL from Apple, iBooks from DM) iBooks wouldn't have been denied from the iOS AppStore.
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You are allowed to compete with Apple's own apps on functionality. What you're not allowed to do is to copy the UI of one of Apple's Apps. That's the reason Evi have been asked to change. Because the UI is too much of a Siri copy.
Yes because only Apple is allowed to shamelessly copy other's work [cultofmac.com]
The app in question is in the Mac App Store [apple.com], so the developer has explicitly accepted the same agreement as I have stating that Apple is free to do these things.
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> That's odd, because you can go to the App Store
> and find plenty of alternate email clients, diallers,
> SMS clients
So where's the one that allows me to clean up ALL my SMS messages with a single button like Android does?
Re:Is this Apple or MS? (Score:5, Funny)
you just forked out enough to buy a car
That must be some car.
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Google's walls are considerably shorter than the others, but walls nontheless. It really just comes down to business management: There is some profit to be had in device manufacture alone, but there is far greater profit to be made in providing services those devices must depend upon.
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I thought you could install anything you wanted onto an Android phone, out of the box, no jailbreaking or anything. Just email youself the package and install, or use usb etc. That's not a wall.
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Re:Is this Apple or MS? (Score:5, Informative)
You could also use Google's walled garden, or Microsoft's walled garden, or RIMs walled garden.
Google doesn't have a walled garden. it's an open park you can walk into and out of all of your own accord.
I think you need to look up the definition of "walled garden" or actually use Android for yourself. It's nothing like Apple's system of lockdown.
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You could also use Google's walled garden, or Microsoft's walled garden, or RIMs walled garden.
Google doesn't have a walled garden. it's an open park you can walk into and out of all of your own accord. I think you need to look up the definition of "walled garden" or actually use Android for yourself. It's nothing like Apple's system of lockdown.
Actually I've never been sure of the meaning of "walled garden". For example most gardens I know of have a gate that you can use to exit and explore the wider, ahem, HTML fauna. I know the term is used pejoratively here on slashdot but to most other people it sounds kind of nice. You know, like maybe there is a tea shop you can visit just next door. Perhaps it's time to revisit our horticultural themed analogy, would critics be better off using "prison yard"?
So where do people put android in this analogy
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Re:Is this Apple or MS? (Score:4, Insightful)
You could also use Google's walled garden, or Microsoft's walled garden, or RIMs walled garden.
Google doesn't have a walled garden. it's an open park you can walk into and out of all of your own accord. I think you need to look up the definition of "walled garden" or actually use Android for yourself. It's nothing like Apple's system of lockdown.
The definition seems to be "A term used derisively by Apple haters."
Re:Is this Apple or MS? (Score:5, Informative)
I think you're confused about what the term "walled garden" refers to. It means that the carrier or service provider controls exactly what is and isn't allowed on the phone.
Apple is the only platform you mentioned with a walled garden approach. Google (Android), Microsoft (MS Mobile), and RIM (Blackberry) all allow users to install any application they want. They may not be allowed in an official app store, but you can just connect your phone via usb or email files to your phone and do whatever you want. Each of those platforms may have varying levels of what features/hardware the software is allowed access to once it's on the phone, usually for security but sometimes for business reasons, but that is not the same thing as a walled garden.
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Yeah, Google do not prevent you from installing anything you want on your phone, they leave that kind of evil to the manufacturers and carriers instead...
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Yeah, Google do not prevent you from installing anything you want on your phone, they leave that kind of evil to the manufacturers and carriers instead...
So buy an unlocked Android phone already
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"Unwhatnow?" says the hired help at Best Buy.
If not all Android phones are unlocked in this fashion then Android is not. Otherwise you can say that Apple does not have a walled garden since you just need to use an untethered jailbreak.
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"Unwhatnow?" says the hired help at Best Buy.
If not all Android phones are unlocked in this fashion then Android is not. Otherwise you can say that Apple does not have a walled garden since you just need to use an untethered jailbreak.
No, you can go into a shop and _buy_ an unlocked Android phone. No messing around, no geeky stuff, just buy it. My fiancee (who isn't a geek) did exactly this last year - ordered an unlocked Nexus-S from Play.com and stuck a PAYG SIM in it. Let me know when you find an official retailer selling an off the shelf jail broken iOS device complete with manufacturer's warranty.
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If your carrier is blocking you from checking the "unknown sources" box, you need a new carrier. (I'm doubtful such a carrier exists considering that Verizon doesn't block it and they tend to be the most overreaching, but hey, I'm open to citations.)
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As a licensed iOS developer I am the proof that you are wrong. I don't have to seek Apple's (or anyone's) approval to run anything signed by me on my iDevices.
Re:Is this Apple or MS? (Score:5, Informative)
You just did smart guy, when you got you Apple developer license. And you can only distribute apps to a limited number of devices with that Apple-provided signing key you have.
Twelve months later (Score:3)
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Walled garden, yadda yadda fear mongering bias making use of all the negative buzzwords to describe Apple. Have you seen how beautiful a real Walled Garden is? At the same time who doesn't lock in customers?
Re:Is this Apple or MS? (Score:4, Insightful)
What proprietary lock-in hell? How do they lock you in? At most you could claim that they lock you out, but considering the fact that they tend to use standard protocols and formats for everything (with the dock connector being a historically-justified exception, because there was nothing "standard" when it was created), I fail to see exactly what locks you in to Apple products other than your willingness to stick to the only fully integrated ecosystem that works seamlessly.
Also, what kind of rights are you talking about?
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I suspect most iPhone owners charge their phone from a USB port, not a power point. I know I do: it just gets dropped in to the cradle when I get home at night.
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Nor is that the only thing they do. For instance, Apples is in a league of their own when it comes to accessibility options on both iOS and OS X.
You can plug it to any USB port, doesn't necessarily have to be a wall socket. You can also buy an iPad charger which comes with a modular power c
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Really? Your complaints about the iPhone 4s are "hard to use interface", "short battery life", and "short included cable"? Talk about praising with faint damns!
My Galaxy Nexus's interface is slightly harder to use than my iPad's (not a huge deal, but it's certainly not "easier" by any rational definition). Its battery life is about the same as my girlfriend's iPhone 4S, and it came with a charge cable of about the same length. (I bought us both long cables from monoprice.com for a few bucks, so not a bi
Re:Is this Apple or MS? (Score:4, Insightful)
Why would it be time for an antitrust case?
Apple doesn't have a monopoly on smartphones, software for smartphones or anything really.
They do however have a product (the iPhone) which is designed to only receive software authorized by Apple (through the App store) but this is not a monopoly, there are plenty of competing products on the market.
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Antitrust cases aren't strictly about monopolies, it's about abusing dominance in a market, for example to push into other markets. Market domination has no clear cut definition.
If, say, one would successfully argue that Apple is dominating in mobile OS market, then using that position to promote Apple's web browser would be illegal.
Re:Is this Apple or MS? (Score:5, Insightful)
Yes, but to establish market power (not market "domination", which has no definition because it's not a meaningful term), you have to concede that the other smartphone platforms pose no significant competition to Apple. As any Slashdot story or any sales figure would show, that's not the case.
Apple is an immensely powerful player in the smartphone space, but its ability to cause competitors to act isn't because of market power in the economic and business sense, but instead because of a publicity profile. Apple is the one to beat because of a combination of customer satisfaction, marketing, and industrial engineering and design prowess (and increasingly, technical achievement in certain areas). They're not the ones to beat because of units sold or because they can force competitors to do specifically what Apple wants them to do.
Their success despite stronghold on platform rules, and especially considering that they are sometimes unevenly applied and result in some functionality gaps with competing products is very strong evidence of competitive success, not interference with the market. These forces would tend to drive customers away toward the fine alternatives available, except that people view the benefits as far outweighing the inconveniences. Report after report shows unparalleled satisfaction and repeat purchases of their mobile devices, along with strong growth over a period of time.
In short, popularity alone isn't market power in the context of competition law. Customers and developers have plenty of options if they don't like the balance of pros and cons offered by Apple. Just because a huge number of people use something that a small but vocal crowd thinks is unduly restrictive is not an antitrust issue.
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I don't even like Apple, but I agree with everything this dude ^ said. I love my Android, I find it much better than any iOS device, but when so many people buy and don't care about the lock-in and so on, you can't really argue they aren't doing something right.
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Every product Apple has created in the last 10 years has been designed specifically to drive sales of their other products, while maintaining a closed, integrated system that can't be broken out of. That is literally Apple's core business model, if you look at anything Steve Jobs has ever said. If they ever actually achieve market dominance in an area, they will be destroyed by anti-trust litigation (or should, but with $80+ billion for lawyers, they're untouchable) because their entire strategy is abusin
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Fortunately, they only care about the high-end, so market dominance is unlikely to ever happen.
Re:Is this Apple or MS? (Score:5, Insightful)
If they ever actually achieve market dominance in an area, they will be destroyed by anti-trust litigation
With iPod they had monopoly dominance in the MP3 player market for years. No anti-trust suit. It's not illegal to have a monopoly.
Re:Is this Apple or MS? (Score:4, Interesting)
How did Apple have a monopoly on MP3 players? There were plenty of others on the market although the iPod was the best-selling one.
And even if they did have a monopoly, in what way did they abuse this monopoly?
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Um, none of the others could compete on the same level due to Apple locking in very key technology to increasing the storage size of their MP3 players at the time.
I personally was going to buy one because I could simply drop my entire mp3 collection onto it.
No more "Aww, I wish I'd loaded song x today"
However my use case for it was very limited.
Nothing was available in the way of any serious competition until flash memory advances were made to allow similar storage sizes to the original two versions of the
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How did Apple have a monopoly on MP3 players? There were plenty of others on the market although the iPod was the best-selling one.
In a similar way to how Microsoft had a monoploy on PC operating systems when there was Linux and Mac OS around.
Greater than 90% of the market.
And even if they did have a monopoly, in what way did they abuse this monopoly?
They didn't. That's my point.
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Greater than 90% of the market.
Here in Sweden they had nowhere near 90% of the market (although I do know the iPod was wildly popular in the US).
They didn't. That's my point.
Sorry, misread your original post.
Re:Is this Apple or MS? (Score:5, Informative)
Really? An "integrated system that can't be broken out of"? You're talking shit on so many levels. As a simple user myself with allusions of being a super user, I can easily transfer everything to another OS tomorrow if I wanted, saying it requires work to do so isn't unfathomable, any switchover will. For those on the hacker level for greater freedom, you can jailbreak and remove drm protections with instructions available online.
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What market are you talking about? Apple governs their platform like Sony governs PSN, Microsoft governs the XBox etc.
And there are plenty of Fandroids who will tell you that Apple is not dominating in the mobile OS market...
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Apple is taking over the world up until the point someone mentions anti-trust. Then suddenly Apple is not taking over the world anymore.
Re:Is this Apple or MS? (Score:5, Insightful)
Sounds more like the typical whine of people who, after tens of articles on /. bitching that Apple doesn't allow (apps similar to their OS apps, porn, flagrant ripoffs of existing apps), still don't comprehend that the Apple is not a monopoly & thus App store rules are not abuse of a monopoly.
If you want different app store rules on your iPhone, jailbeak it. If, as I suspect, you don't event have an iPhone, spare us from your whining...
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I think there is some confusion about the dictionary definition of monopoly and the legal definition. In the UK, at least, you are deemed to hold a monopoly position within a market if you control more than 25%, which apple certainly does in the smartphone market.
Also, and I admit it might be a tenuous, you could argue that apps for iOS is a single market, and therefore apple has a 100% monopoly on the supply of apps for iOS, a position that I think most of us agree the abuse to one degree or another.
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You don't understand what antitrust means, clearly.
This may be a stupid policy from Apple, but it's not an antitrust violation since they do not hold a monopoly position in the smartphone market. Well, unless everyone on slashdot has been vastly overstating the market share of Android...
Either Android is "killing" in marketshare, or Apple has a monopoly and is thus exposed to antitrust. You can't have your cake and eat it.
Disagree.... (Score:2)
At least, I disagree based on this particular case.
Apple didn't pull the app immediately, without warning. They contacted the developer and offered to help work with them to make changes so they'd find it acceptable. That's not usually how antitrust situations pan out at all. (Do you remember Microsoft approaching Netscape and saying, "Hey... we're cool with your web browser alternative and we'd even offer it as a download from our own site if you'd work with us to make sure we're satisfied it's not just
Oh Apple. (Score:5, Funny)
Evi not much of a competitor, IMHO (Score:5, Insightful)
At least 70% of my attempts to use Evi result in some version of a "unable to process your request" error.
Re:Evi not much of a competitor, IMHO (Score:5, Interesting)
I concur. While the text to speech engine and the interpreter seem to work correctly it suffers from a lack of information.
When I tried saying "What is the weather in Sydney" I got an answer saying that the functionality is coming soon and to try Accuweather instead. Why not just pipe that request to Google and return the text at the top?
Other classic ones are maths problems. I asked "What is five plus five." It correctly interpreted "5+5?" and then said "This appears to be a maths question, try asking the question in words."
I eventually beat it by asking "What is the addition of 5 and 5?" and it correctly answered 10.
Seriously the program has some incredibly fundamental flaws.
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I think you should double check Google's terms and conditions for automated access
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When I tried saying "What is the weather in Sydney" I got an answer saying that the functionality is coming soon and to try Accuweather instead. Why not just pipe that request to Google and return the text at the top?
Because Google /= Apple, I.E. Google /= Bing
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But I was assured by everyone on Slashdot that Siri was trivial to duplicate in its entirety and not remotely challenging, interesting or innovative, and that Android had the exact same (and better) functionality forever anyway.
So clearly your personal experiences with a competitor to Siri must be wrong. *Ahem*
Kidding aside, how in the hell did you come up with "What is the addition of 5 and 5?" Seriously - you must be phenomenal at Infocom type "guess the verb" text adventure games because such a phrasing
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I be continue to be... (Score:5, Funny)
I be continue to be horrendously disappoint at Slashdot's lack of editing!
Wtf? (Score:2)
Siri doesn't understand British english? I can understand if it doesn't support german, french and other non-english languages, but doesn't understand different dialects of english seems bad.
Also, Siri is only on the iPhone 4s, not on any other model so is it really breaching that clause?
Re:Wtf? (Score:5, Informative)
If you think about it, it makes sense.
A different language is a different language and as a result rules must be explicitly programmed for those languages and everyone understands that.
English sounds English to a human ear, the syntax is based on the same rules but the usage of the language varies a lot around the world. Meaning is coloured by local culture.
For example, in India, it considered rude to ever say No to a request, so the first response to a request is normally Yes, followed by a qualification. In the UK, that cultural bias to saying No doesn't exist, so when we say Yes, we really mean Yes. The same language, using the same syntax but the important part of the sentence comes in different places because of the local culture.
The problem is that humans are really good at deciphering meaning from what is effectively errors in the communication protocol and so everyone tends to think English is just English with strange pronunciation and so tend to over look the need for specific rules for each region.
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I know a lot of immigrants from Europe. Their accents are there but it's not bad, they are completely understandable to the average American. In the past, some of them tried Dragon to poor to mediocre success and Siri is no better, if not worse.
And Siri should be better, the inquiries are often simple, repeated commands. But Siri doesn't seem to ever learn. It would be so simple to set up profiles to train it to compensate to some degree, but like most computer programs, the human has to conform to it a
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It isn't just accents but word usage. The sentence, "I'm going down to the chemist's to pick up a torch and some fags." has an ENTIRELY different meaning in the UK vs the US.
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US English -------- British English
Bathroom ------------ Loo
TV----------------------- Telly
Awesome dude! --- Jolly good old chap!
Greetings, sir ------ ‘Ello Guvna
Cigarette ------------- Fag
Horse-faced --------- Female
Toothbrush ---------- N/A
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English sounds English to a human ear, the syntax is based on the same rules but the usage of the language varies a lot around the world. Meaning is coloured by local culture.
Exactly! After all when a bouncer throws you out of a pub in the UK by saying: "I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask you to leave..." he's neither afraid nor is he asking.
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That's another difference between American English and British English. Here it's "Out. Now. Don't make me kick your ass!"
In the nicer bars it's simply "OK, you're gonna hafta leave."
In the ghetto they don't say anything, they just lift you off the floor and throw you out bodily.
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US English: "Buuuk Aiirrn Aiiirrrpoñññtmarnt"
UK English: "BoOK A_n Appouyintmnt"
Yes exaggerated, and in improvised phonetics, but imagine a spectrum analyser who has to sort out that these two sound clips mean the same. UK English is absolutely not the same. When did you last order a pint in London? Don't get me started on Northern vs. Southern accents.
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Siri supports US English (speaks in the default female voice everyone as heard), UK English (low pitched male voice), AU English (different female voice, better than the US voice, in my opinion), French (effeminate-sounding male voice, as you would expect from any French guy), and German (the best sounding female voice in my opinion). The localization issues are most likely related to geolocation services not offered outside of the US, such the integration with Maps and search for local services. As I und
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Siri supports US English (speaks in the default female voice everyone as heard), UK English (low pitched male voice), AU English (different female voice, better than the US voice, in my opinion), French (effeminate-sounding male voice, as you would expect from any French guy), and German (the best sounding female voice in my opinion).
You are confusing synthesis with recognition.
Siri and Evi both use Nuance's automatic speech recognition (ASR) technology. This technology can support both US and UK English (among many others), depending on which models are used. Presumably, this can be configured by the application software, based on the location of the device and/or user setup (I do not have a smart phone, so I'm not sure if the latter is supported). The Nuance technology also adapts to the user's acoustics and word usage over time, s
Apple not pulling Evi app, working with developers (Score:5, Informative)
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Anyway it seems that Apple may have reconsidered their position on this, which is probably a good thing for the small guys.
Or maybe the news reports were incorrect? Or maybe the commenters engaged in knee jerk reactions due to an irrational hatred that is in some yin-yang cosmic balance with the reality distortion field?
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Oh, thank the gods. Apple is only going to rape them into submission, but not murder them.
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Pure speculation, and most likely untrue.
Siri is a huge strategic asset to Apple. They paid $200M to buy the company, and have only just begun to deploy it (what you see today is massively de-featured from what they bought - most of the potential revenue generating interfaces have been removed from it, one can only assume temporarily until referrel fee agreements are in place).
If Apple thought Evi in any way threatened Siri they'd pull i
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...A million similar fart apps is all good though.
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That's only until Apple adds built-in iFart app in iPhone 5.
I'm gassing that'll be a stinker.
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There are far, far more fart apps on the 40 android market stores than on the AppStore.
That's because the Android Market is open.
App Store has the disavantages of being closed without the advantages of banning the 400+ fart apps.
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That's because the guy running the app store has a monopoly on fart apps:
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/08/apple-fart-apps/all/1 [wired.com]
don't be a PR tool here. (Score:5, Insightful)
The only source for this info is the developer itself and they have an obvious reason to put it out there. Not only does it get them PR ("The app so good Apple doesn't want you to have it!") but it may lead to impulse sales since once an app is pulled you get to keep it if you already bought it.
There is no inkling from Apple. And now the developer is even backing down, so that they have a convenient answer when people ask why their app was never pulled.
I just installed it. (Score:2)
I never heart of evi, it is a 3 star (fart apps get 5 starts since theydo whtat they are supposed to do ...always...even show fart adds) app on android market. But since it is free, i tried installing it. Now if only it manages to integrate better in the OS....
(open email/nvaigation for me...)
What does this have to do with Steve Jobs? (Score:3, Interesting)
Steve Jobs might not be around any more to enforce some of Apple's stricter policies, but that doesn't mean the company is letting it all hang loose.
Because that's the job of a CEO. To take charge of policing their company's third party developer community.
The fact that most CEOs don't get their hands dirty with the day-to-day work of the company is the reason that Microsoft hasn't imploded after years of being headed up by an overweight chimpanzee.
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I remember the good ol' days when third party developers weren't policed...
misleading (Score:5, Insightful)
Supposedly Evi will be continue to be allowed on iOS if it alters its interface to be dissimilar enough from Siri to placate Apple.
Which is not an entirely unreasonable request. Apple's strength is massively in brand recognition, so making sure your customers aren't confused about what is and what isn't an Apple product makes a lot of sense.
Plus they didn't just pull it, they apparently told the developers what they were concerned about and asked for their cooperation.
I fail to see where the news story is in this one.
Why not be grateful for a change? (Score:2)
And mind you, without concrete examples you'd be painted as yet another Richard Stalman if you sketched any potential adverse effects.
The one thing people have less patience for listening to than actual problems is *potential* problems.
Apple is providing everyone a service by showing the what the consequences are of having a tightly controlled platform.
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Great products that almost everyone wants to have? Half a trillion market cap constantly raising in a recessive economy? Considering the alternatives, I'm perfectly fine with their implementation of a tightly controlled platform, especially considering that for just $100 a year it stops being tightly controlled for me.
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The supposed positive effects you mention don't exist. If you point out how bad the walled garden is, you STILL get called a nutty RMS fanboy and people STILL don't see a problem with it. If anything they have created fanboys of curated computing that didn't exist before.
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That might have something to do with the *way* you point out your opinion on the walled garden model, and the subsequent characterisation of those who choose to use it.
It's rarely an actual debate on /. and more like a vehement stream of abuse directed at Apple, Apple users or anyone who dares to offer constructive criticism of Android.
Hell, you can't even post a positive comment about Apple on here any more without being accused of being a sock puppet account for a PR agency.
Debating the actual point rathe
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FTR, my opinion is that the iOS model should follow something much more like the system Apple are adopting for Mountain Lion (apps from the store signed and launched without user input, apps from elsewhere queried on first launch by admin password) which marries the benefits of both models. What do I know though? I don't make smartphones.
That would be a massive improvement. I couldn't really complain about iOS if they allowed unsigned apps to be installed out-of-the-box.
Apple would still be the world's worst patent abuser though and #1 employer of ethically questionable labor.
Some misreadings are right... (Score:2)
Steve Jobs might not be around any more to enforce some of Apple's stricter policies
At first I misread that as "...Apple's sphincter policies" and then I decided I was right.
Business plan (Score:4, Insightful)
I'll bet this threat sells a million copies of the app. I hadn't heard of it yesterday. Now I've bought it. It was only $0.99 How many more of you did that?
I see a business plan here. What other of the default apps can I copy ...
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yes, but you are not a hard coded program, you are the current top of the line adaptive learning system.
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yes, but you are not a hard coded program, you are the current top of the line adaptive learning system.
Given a major pleasure center is so close to a waste disposal area, I'd still say his engineer needs to work on a better model for v2.0.
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As I understand it, the two may even overlap in certain models.
Talk about fragmentation!
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I would suppose the localization there has to do with geolocation services that currently are only offered in the US. You can't ask Siri for a cab in the UK, for example.
It's localisation... (Score:2)
It's localisation, with an 's', you illiterate sod!
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Only in British English, which I despise.
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I don't know what supermarkets you have there, but here they have very similar - I'd say 99% in presentation (not taste) - store and name brands being sold side by side.
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Apple probably thinks it's to similar if:
Or rather than, you know, talking out of your ass, you could take a look at the UIs of the two apps.
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Experience with iDevices does not contribute to your nerd score. Ownership of iDevices carries a penalty.
By "clone" they mean "competition" (Score:2)
That is the way Apple defines things. Apple is allowed to steal all the ideas they want. They even gloat about it. But if anybody uses an idea that Apple stold, Apple will scream, and cry, and especially sue.