Jailbreak For A5 iOS Devices Released 169
tlhIngan writes "It certainly took long enough, but the untethered jailbreak for Apple's A5 based iOS devices (iPad 2, iPhone 4s) has been released (official site, struggling due to traffic). It's currently only available for OS X, though ports of it to Windows are forthcoming."
With Apple's silent permission? (Score:2)
If Apple really wanted to stop jailbreaking, they'd just have to issue a required iOS update that patches the hole and cut off access for the older release, They don't do that. Instead, they allow the jailbreaks to happen and learn from what they develop such as teathering going from non-existent to paid to included.
Dualboot Android ICS / iOS on iPhone (Score:4, Interesting)
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Great accomplishment, but only temporary (Score:5, Informative)
The point is, if you want to make use of this jailbreak, you must go to iOS 5.0.1 RIGHT NOW and jailbreak or you won't get another chance until 5.1 is hacked, which is of course never guaranteed.
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you must go to iOS 5.0.1 RIGHT NOW and jailbreak or you won't get another chance until 5.1 is hacked
You could also keep 5.0.1 for as long as necessary, reject the 5.1 upgrade, and jailbreak when you wish. No hurry.
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The problem is that if you install something that makes your phone unstable, and need a restore, you will also lose your jailbreak when you restore. This wasn't true in previous jailbreaks.
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Pre-A5 isn't what this news item or Absinthe is all about. The news item is about the A5 devices, which it will not be possible to downgrade once iOS 5.1 is made live. Yes, you can downgrade and untether A4 devices, but that is old news from December.
So one mistake and your jailbreak is gone for good, probably.
There isn't any guarantee that this will be remedied but I believe the jailbreakers make a living out of donations and expensive tweaks and such, and so they will eventually release some sort of tool
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More info here [iphone-dev.org].
Sent from my easily jailbroken Android tablet.
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A5 devices do not have any bootrom level exploits though so this is not possible. You basically have to get 5.0.1 going now before 5.1 comes out. If not you will be stuck with 5.1.
BTW A5 devices are iPad 2 and iPhone 4S
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Last release for 3G was 4.2.1.
Mod me down all you like,.. (Score:3, Insightful)
but goddamn do news posts like this make me â(TM)¥ my Galaxy S2, I owned 3 iphones, never again - EVER.
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make you what?
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Google Translate be thataway [google.se].
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It was an ALT-3 (loveheart) symbol :/ I should've opted for 3
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Looks like greater than less than are cut also, lovely! :/
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You can instruct it without quoting too (err...quote me to see how it is done).
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This story ... (Score:2)
... is exactly why you can't meaningfully compare jailbreak on Android devices that's there by design (e.g. Nexus, or most Samsung phones) to one on iOS where, every time there's an OS update, you have to wait and hope that someone will find an exploit to squeeze through.
Jailbreak is not the problem (Score:2)
My wife is travelling in Australia and China and wanted to use her iPhone there. Rooting and unlocking my Samsung Galaxy S took about 10 minutes, but there is no way to unlock the iPhone 4 if you upgraded to iOS 5. We could have paid Rogers (Canada) $60 to do it, but we didn't think of it until we left for Australia and it was cheaper to just buy a cheap nokia prepaid burn phone and then only use her
Re:Not being a troll, Serious question. (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Not being a troll, Serious question. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Not being a troll, Serious question. (Score:5, Funny)
What interests me is that you obviously don't own your own phone according to the gospel of Jobs. This is why I moved from Apple. Unless Apple Inc. wishes to give me a free phone, I OWN THE DAMN THING.
In Jobiet Russia, the phone owns you!
Re:Not being a troll, Serious question. (Score:5, Insightful)
Of course you own your own phone. You can make calls on it. You can run apps on it. You can smash it if you want. What else do you want?
Well, I'm a programmer, of the "system programmer" and "network programmer" variety. Apple (and/or my cell-phone company) doesn't permit me to write and test my own software on their phones, unless I pay a special price to get a temporary "developer" account. So no, with the standard contract, I don't "own" my phone in the way any programmer would mean by that word. Someone else has the legal right to deny me the ability to write the kinds of software that I make a living writing.
So to me, it's as if I were, say, a taxi driver, and I bought a new car, and found out that it didn't permit me to enter any taxi stands. To do that, I'd have to pay the auto maker an extra "professional driver" fee every year. Any taxi driver would say "WTF?!!", and ask some mechanics how to break that idiotic lock. Car makers have no right to restrict where we can drive their vehicles.
As a professional software geek, I respond the same way to the usual smart-phone "jail". An iPhone or iPad isn't a "computer" as I define the term. That is, it isn't programmable; it's a datacomm appliance, but not a computer. To get access to the (fairly powerful) computer hidden inside them, I have to pay an extra annual rental for a temporary permit to use them as my jobs require. "Buying" the gadget didn't give me the right to develop and test my software on them.
And yes, I have been bitten by this problem on several projects, where we bought "smart phones" for the explicit purpose of developing and testing software. With several of them, we proved eventually that our problems were due to the blocks that the vendors (well-known cell-phone companies) had installed, and didn't remove even when our employer paid their "developer" fees. Funny thing; when we proved to their support people that there were still blocks installed that explained why our stuff failed, they weren't the least bit apologetic. It's more like they were annoyed that we'd found out how they did it.
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Well, I'm a programmer, of the "system programmer" and "network programmer" variety. Apple (and/or my cell-phone company) doesn't permit me to write and test my own software on their phones, unless I pay a special price to get a temporary "developer" account. So no, with the standard contract, I don't "own" my phone in the way any programmer would mean by that word. Someone else has the legal right to deny me the ability to write the kinds of software that I make a living writing.
A lot of devices include proprietary parts and technologies that you or me don't have access to. How could that mean that you wouldn't still own the device? Do you fully own your microwave oven only when you get the specifications to reprogram the microcontroller? I think a better word would be "hackable" or "programmable". And sure, those are good values to seek from a product.
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Would you be prosecuted by the manufacturer for altering it? Put the strawman down buddy.
Of course not, just like you won't be prosecuted by apple for jailbreaking your iphone. Not sure what point you're trying to make.
Re:Not being a troll, Serious question. (Score:5, Insightful)
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I don't understand the way slashdot commenters use the word "own." What do you mean, "you don't own your own phone?" Of course you own your own phone. You can make calls on it. You can run Apple approved apps on it. You can smash it if you want. What else do you want?
There, fixed that for you. The answer should be obvious.
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It was easier to jailbreak my iPod touch than it was to root Android Optimus V.
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Instructions
1. Extract "ov-root.zip" to a convenient location, you will use this later.
2. If your Optimus V isn't already connected to your PC with a USB cable, go ahead and do that.
3. Extract Super One Click and run "SuperOneClick.exe".
4. Select Shell Root.
http://www.prepaidandroid.org/index.php?title=How_to_root_your_Optimus_V [prepaidandroid.org]
If you need any more help, there's plenty of Android forums with tips for people who aren't good with technology. They're used to dealing with novices, and are likely to be patient with your questions.
Re:Not being a troll, Serious question. (Score:5, Informative)
How to jailbreak or 4S/iPad 2:
1) Download Absinthe
2) Click jailbreak
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3) Get jailbreak removed at next minor OS upgrade, with no option to downgrade because Apple have designed all modern iOS hardware with anti-downgrade protection. If you install the next upgrade and then want to jailbreak just forget about it altogether.
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Um, that is only a point if you forget that you have a jailbroken phone and choose to update from Apple instead of waiting for a untethered jailbreak of the new release. iOS software updates are not mandatory.
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0) Check to see if Jailbreak will brick your phone
0.1) Double check
0.3) Triple check
0.4) Find a detailed guide on which firmware version you can use with your specific model of phone.
Then, the procedure can be anything from downloading the program and executing it, to creating a modified firmware file from Apple's old firmware archives and using weird button combinations to get the device to launch in recovery mode.
I recently spent hours trying to update my 3g to iOS4. Not so much because I wanted the featu
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It's next to impossible to "brick" an iPhone. Even the most seriously messed up firmware update (read: battery dies in the middle? you jailbreak and it gets stuck in a reboot loop? etc..) is just a restore away. Hours to update a 3G to iOS4? Really?
1. Plug iPhone 3G into computer
2. iTunes will ask if you want to upgrade to the latest version of iOS (in the case of a 3G, I believe it is 4.2.1)
3. Jailbreak, if you're so inclined.
Honestly, it sounds like you just don't know what you're doing.
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Plus, it's easy to do a "factory reset".
1) Turn off the iPhone
2) Connect it to a machine running iTunes while holding down the home button
3) Answer "yes" when prompted whether you want to do a reinstall.
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If you want to be picky it's technically impossible to brick almost any kind of modern hardware, it just depends on what length you're willing to go to to unbrick your device, whether someone's already done the hard work and documented it. You might say there are multiple levels of "brickness"
Honestly though, it's you who doesn't know what you're doing. If I had done what you suggested, I would have ended up with a brick, as in "an unusable device with no clear way of restoring functionality and a negligabl
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How to jailbreak or 4S/iPad 2:
1) Download Absinthe
2) Click jailbreak
How to get access to 99% of the functionality a jailbreak provides on IOS on Android.
1) Turn it on.
Root on Android is a lot harder because it provides a whole different level of functionality. Basically the only reason someone Root's their Android device now is to install a custom ROM. Most of the reasons people Jailbreak their iDevice is available as standard on Android (tethering independent of the carrier, being able to install applications from third party sources) and as yet, there are no custom
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https://www.google.com/search?q=Android+Optimus+V&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&lr=lang_en#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&lr=lang_en&safe=off&tbs=lr:lang_1en&source=hp&q=mac+Android+Optimus+V&pbx=1&oq=mac+Android+Optimus+V&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=3796l4458l0l4984l4l4l0l0l0l3l680l2010l3-1.1.2l4l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&fp=16c1cac6da449bf6&biw=1910&bih=986
Good luck with any other new technology you're st
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I didn't say it was impossible. I said it was more difficult to. It was in response to the OP that is being all high and mighty because he's avoiding Apple. Android cell phone companies are no better.
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what EVIDENCE do you have of Apple ever enforcing those rules. trivial for them to block or otherwise disable, but they NEVER have. Apple's never tried to "prosecute" me for re-selling "their" devices when I was upgrading.
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/07/feds-ok-iphone-jailbreaking/ [wired.com]
"Federal regulators lifted a cloud of uncertainty when they announced it was lawful to hack or “jailbreak” an iPhone, declaring Monday there was “no basis for copyright law to assist Apple in protecting
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And the GP will probably end up handing over double the cost of the phone to the carrier in the process. You don't get a free phone with a contract, that cost is tacked onto the bill and requires a multi year contract.
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which means they are ripping you off if you don't buy a phone, not the reverse. Geez, you act like their motivations are as pure as wind driven snow.
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And even worse is that they provide a locked handset, if they were to provide an unlocked handset you could take it anyway, then sell it or give it to someone else. It's stupid to not take a phone given that the contract is the same price regardless.
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except, moron, you don't have to sign a *contract* if you don't take the phone. You can change, whenever you like, and take your number with you (okay, your not a moron. your sentence was tho)
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If you're going to pay the same rate for two years, why not get a free phone thrown in?
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Contract is why. I don't get a new phone every year which means that when the carrier pisses me off I can walk immediately if I choose. The fact that most of the carriers are engaged in this kind of activity is more an argument for the government breaking up the cartel than it is to bend over even further.
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Re:Not being a troll, Serious question. (Score:5, Insightful)
So what you're saying is that Apple customers have not bought the operating systems for their devices, just the hardware?
Well, I haven't read the Apple EULA, but if it's like similar EULAs (and I assume it is) then the answer is yes. It's the same with Windows.
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Seriously - given that EULAs are nothing more than a wishlist for a software supplier and are *not* legally enforceable, the content of said EULA is non-relevant. If I purchase (with language like "buy" "Sale" or "yours for €x a month") an appliance I consider myself to have complete rights to use and break anything in or on said device. I can uninstall the OS and run my own. I can break through the security restrictions and mess with the innards as I see fit. I can root or jailbrea
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They've bought the device as described. With all the features listed on the box/marketing materials. If someone can hack it to do something else, then good luck to them. But the manufacturer of the device doesn't owe any purchasers assistance with that.
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I don't expect assistance, but i also don't expect them to go out of their way to hinder me either and that is the key difference.
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Why would you not expect it? It's not as if it's not well known.
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It same for most software. You don't own your copy of Ubuntu. You don't own the copyright.
Ubuntu grants you a license that says you can do with it pretty much whatever you like (as long as you make source available for any binaries you've modified and distributed). They don't charge you for the OS, and they don't charge you extra just to be able to run "gcc hello_world.c".
That's a hella better "ownership" deal than you're ever going to get out of Apple.
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You have that backwards. You do own your copy, even though you don't own the copyright. Not the case for software that's "licensed, not sold" (if your jurisdiction recognizes EULAs), but Free Software licenses don't tend to pull that kind of BS, only regulating actions (such as making copies or preparing derivitive works) that copyright would prevent even if you fully and properly owned your copy, thus avoiding any incentive for the "licensed, n
Re:Not being a troll, Serious question. (Score:5, Interesting)
You do own the phone. You're free to do whatever you want with it if you can figure it out. Oh, you mean you want Apple to do all the work for you, release all the documentation and provide you with the tools you need? Sorry, but they have no obligation to do that. You're still free to do it on your own, but then don't come crying for Apple to replace it for free when you void the warranty trying to hack/mod your hardware. You are free in every way to use the hardware as you wish, what you are really angry at is that Apple makes no attempts to help you in that endeavor.
Really? So why did Apple feel the need to file a patent under which they can kill an iphone by distance when they find out it's jailbroken?
Who know if they'll use it or not, but that's not the point, they have a patent for it.
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Having that patent is irrelevant to the issue at hand. They could do that without the patent, they can decide not to do it with the patent. There doesn't seem to be any correlation between having that patent and likelihood of using it to jailbreak, particularly when you consider that said patent wasn't specific to jailbreaking.
In fact, looking at it, it seems like the most obvious purpose of the patent would be dealing with stolen iPhones, and dealing with stolen iPhones even if they were jailbroken and S
Re:Not being a troll, Serious question. (Score:4, Insightful)
I just want Apple to not actively work against me doing what I want with my phone. It's also not a huge ask to expect complete documentation.
And before you say "so don't buy one", I didn't and won't.
re: not trolling, but serious answer (Score:5, Interesting)
The only reason Windows Phone 7 hasn't caused any ruckus over concepts like rooting/jailbreaking/unlocking is because it has such a small market-share to begin with. The few people using those phones are typically not even the "power users" who'd care about such things, and the overall lack of developer support for their phone means there's little incentive to CARE anyway.
Really, before smartphones even came out, this was a problem everyone had to put up with. I remember having a Moto Razr with downloadable apps using the proprietary "BREW" language, all locked down with DRM. Your phone got lost and had to be replaced? You lost your apps and had to beg them to let you re-download them without paying again (which they'd often not do).
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Yep, I remember that. It was disappointing and sucked. I was always interested in the Windows Mobile devices, at least the ones that weren't deliberately crippled by the carrier (lol Verizon.)
This push to return us to those bad old days sucks, especially as devices are even more connected and powerful than ever. The worst is the spread of it into tablets and, slowly, into desktop PCs.
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Actually, there's a reasonably active hacker community working on WP7. Nobody has yet found a universal full-unlock (the closest was the ChevronWP7 Unlocker, which let you developer-unlock a device without buying a Marketplace Developer account), but certain types of low-permission homebrew are available for all phones. Some phones (HTC gen1 and some gen1.5, Samsung gen1) have ways of getting full "root" access, and the developer of one of the tools has promised support for more HTC and LG devices in his ne
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While there have been some exploits that allow jailbreaking via website, the vast majority (all of the IOS 5, so far) vulnerabilities require the phone to be put into DFU mode. If there's a vulnerability in the OS while running in a mode specifically designed for altering the OS from outside of the OS, I don't think that's a very big deal (security wise).
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I haven't read into it too much but it appears that the A5 jailbreak gets in through a hole in (the local setup of) the VPN tunnel in the OS.
Same as a real computer, once your attacker has physical access you're hooped.
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Yes, it tells us that there aren't enough Windows 7 phones in the wild to interest anyone in creating an exploit.
I know for some Android phones, there is no actual exploit of the production firmware involved. Rather, a reverse engineered key is placed on the SD so that the bootloader will willingly load an unsigned OS (this is a feature for development). Then an older OS with an exploit is loaded and exploited. That approach also involves attaching the debugger (just try that over the web).
Honestly, a prope
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What I don't get is how so many commenters aren't getting taken to task for comments that issues are 'rampant' on Android. I use Android and I know several other Android users. Yeah, I'm pretty technical compared to the average population (probably pretty average here) and can probably better recognize things to avoid but most of my friends/family are not. Not at all! And yet.. I don't know anyone who has ever been hit with a piece of malware or a hacker
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There are two reasons for the lack of exploits in windows phone 7...
First there was such an exploit, and MS decided to work with the jailbreakers and they now offer an official, albeit crippled, jailbreak option.
Second their marketshare is so tiny that very few people are even interested in writing a jailbreak.
Incidentally, neither WebOS nor Meego (or whatever its called this week) have jailbreak exploits available, because both platforms provide simple official ways of getting root. That doesn't mean there
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What interests me is the promotion of these jailbreaks as a good thing. It's an exploit, after all. That allows the attacker to completely root your device, often just by visiting a website.
The Reality Distortion Field.
this is rampant in Android too.
As yet, there has been no remote exploit for Android, nor any single exploit to gain root that is consistent across different phones on the same version of the OS. So rampant is the wrong word.
The only current devices with no known exploits are Windows Phone 7 based, which is very telling.
Google ChevronWP7.
Exploits have been out for a year. MS simply paid the ChevronWP7 team to sit on it.
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A windows version is already out, google for "absynth 0.2 win".
If I were in your shoes, I'd be waiting. Usually, when a jailbreak comes out, lots of bug happen to be found and fixed in the first week.
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Uh.. what?
To begin with, if you go to the official site, you'll see a linux port is also coming.
As this is a jailbreak for an iOS device. All the host computer does is connect to the iPhone/iPad and throw data at it until the exploits can be... exploited.
So spending the time to port an application that only needs to be run once, to OS's with a small userbase just isn't worth the time. If you have one of the devices that needs this JB, and don't have access to a Windows, linunx or Mac based system, then you
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There are already Windows and Linux links on the site. Didn't try them, but they're right by the OS X one, so I'm assuming it's the same...
Re:Fuck IOS (Score:5, Funny)
My sis say I should turn of 3G. It apparently drains the battery a lot, but I must be getting really old as I haven't figured how to do that, and no way will I ask her how.
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I seriously doubt you'll get much more battery life out of any modern smartphone - at least without disabling most of what makes it "smart"
If you really do want to disable 3G, go into Settings>General>Network>Enable 3G
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I seriously doubt you'll get much more battery life out of any modern smartphone - at least without disabling most of what makes it "smart"
My old Smartphone got a week when it was new. It's down to 4-5 days now. Its screen is smaller, CPU slower and what not, so it's not a fair comparison I suppose, but it did most of the stuff the iPhone does well enough. Including GPS, Wifi, 3G, Video chat, MP3, etc.
I had expect the iPhone to at least mach that old thing. It's newer tech and all that.
If you really do want to disable 3G, go into Settings>General>Network>Enable 3G
Nope, there's nothing about 3G there. Closest is "mobil nettwork" but that seems to be about the operator.
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My sis say I should turn of 3G. It apparently drains the battery a lot, but I must be getting really old as I haven't figured how to do that, and no way will I ask her how.
/Embarrassed
+1 funny, Sure made me laugh.
Re:Fuck IOS (Score:4, Informative)
My sis say I should turn of 3G. It apparently drains the battery a lot, but I must be getting really old as I haven't figured how to do that, and no way will I ask her how.
The battery does last longer with 3G off, however you cannot turn it off wit the 4S, presumably due to Apple arrogance. However, there's a rumor floating around that the 5.1 update will put that switch back in. The source of that rumor is that the current beta builds has it available.
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If that switch does return, you'll notice a couple of things. 1.) The reception/coverage is better and 2.) You won't be able to use data and voice at the some time unless wifi is around.
Also, I thought about it a bit, and I'm not sure if disabling 3G will actually extend your standby time.. in theory it should but I'm unclear on that. I can say that the actual talk time using Edge seemed to use only half as much battery power. I didn't measure that scientifically, though. It was *very* noticable.
Have a
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No... The phone will simply revert to Edge speeds. On my iPhone 3G it helped with battery life (at the expense of much slower data speeds)
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Turning off 3G on a cell phone would disable the ability to place and receive cell phone calls, which is, after all, the primary purpose of the device.
You don't know what you're talking about.
I really am tired of this know-it-all attitude lots of people around here have. Normally I wouldn't mind, but thanks for jumping to the conclusion that I was giving him useless advice to conserve battery power. It's nice to see somebody who thinks I'm a moron come by and correct me on something and turn out to be completely wrong.
So, if you don't mind me asking, do you think you're an expert on all topics and were attempting to prove that, or were you just trying t
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Not to be pedantic, but there are some carriers for which this is true. For example, in Canada, if you're with Bell Canada or Telus, if you turn off 3G you do lose the ability to make phone calls. This is because their network is CDMA and not GSM, and they only support LTE (so no Edge or even standard non-data GSM). I think there is now a CDMA version of the iPhone, but I have a 3GS phone with Telus that can't receive or place calls if I turn off 3G.
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There is no CDMA version of the iPhone 3GS. You're correct though, both Telus and Bell are CDMA/HSPA providers and thus don't provide 2G GSM voice/data service. Turning off 3G support should mean no service, or at least significantly reduced service.
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Thank you for the information, I guess I should take my own advice.
Time for me to eat my humble pie.
Re:Fuck IOS (Score:4, Informative)
battery life up to a whooping 3 days
Don't you sleep? Plug your phone in when you go to bed, unplug it when you wake up. Then it's always juiced up. I do this as a matter of rote.
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^ this
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And I prefer coming home to a blowjob, but somehow my wife isn't compatible with that function.
It's all tradeoffs. You can't have it all.
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I prefer leaving the phone in my jacket
Delete your preferences. Problem solved.
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All in all, no great loss.
Except that AppleID stuff, that was bloody annoying. It kept glitching out with a server connection error at the very last step, so I had to redo the whole blasted wizard over and over until it went thro
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My Samsung Galaxy came with a USB charging cable included. Guess some vendors really need that extra 5 bucks.
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You're not disappointed with the iPhone, you're disappointed with Smartphones, and quite frankly you've just disabled most of the things that makes it smart to begin with.
Here's a novel thought, rather than buying a shiny phone with a beefy CPU, hardware acceleration, a phone which could change the way you work forever, why not buy a feature phone if battery life is your most important goal?
Here's another view. I have a Samsung Galaxy S. The battery lasts for a full day of (in my opinion) reasonably heavy u
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I find it funny people are complaining that they only get 4 days between charges. What do pe
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You're not disappointed with the iPhone, you're disappointed with Smartphones, and quite frankly you've just disabled most of the things that makes it smart to begin with.
You know, I already have a Smartphone. With touch, internet, GPS, and the list goes on. Is it so wrong to expect an iPhone to at least mach older tech? It's not like the iPhone is a whole lot better than that oldy. The only true/real advantage (to me) is that my bank has made an app for the iPhone, I can't use the old mobile's browser as it does not have java.
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They mean the external system you need to jailbreak the iOS system.
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Untethered means you don't need a USB connection to boot the phone, not that you don't need one to install the jailbreak.
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