Lost Hour-Long Jobs Interview Found 120
adharma writes "According to Robert Cringely, in 1995 he was granted an hour long interview with Steve Jobs at NeXT headquarters for Triumph of the Nerds and promptly lost. Two weeks ago, a 'PAL-VHS, dubbed on professional equipment from a D1 master' copy of the interview was found and is in the process of being restored." Cringely writes there:
"What we’ll do with the 64-minute video depends on how good it looks this week. Maybe we’ll put it up on the Net, maybe we’ll do something more. I’m open to your ideas."
AAGGGGHHHH! (Score:5, Funny)
Burn it, bury it, put a stake through it's heart. The tape is probably like that girl from The Ring, and if you watch it, the undead ghost of Steve Jobs will come and jam your Android device into your brain.
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I was thinking you were talking about that imposter, Mark Stevens, who stole the Cringley name from Infoworld. I was going to mod you up, then figured out you were talking about the tape.
Re:AAGGGGHHHH! (Score:5, Insightful)
The world is a better place because of Winston Churchill, Florence Nightingale and Aristotle. Steve Jobs was a very successful marketing guy. He didn't save the world or create new ways to explain it, he ran a company who makes electronic doo-dads who, by and large, are totally reliant on technologies made by other people.
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true, major historical figures such as those three had _much more of_ a positive impact than Jobs, and our celebrity culture would do well to remember that. However, that's not to say that Jobs was negative.
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Dear KingAlan,
Aristotle was a showman, a publicity whore, a diva and a thief of my ideas!
regards,
Euclid
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Hadn't heard of that - was aware he had learned from Plato who in turn had learned from Socrates
Note that I said "such as those three", if we tried to make a comprehensive list we'd be here all day. One could certainly add Euclid to such a list.
everything old is new again (Score:2)
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To "beg" a question is to "beggar" a question -- that is, make it worthless by implying an answer.
Perhaps you mean it "raises" the question?
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Many modern English speakers use "begging the question" to mean the same as "raises the question". Perhaps you're not modern enough? Which lawn is yours?
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However, as English has no phrase fully equivalent to "begging the question" (in its canonical form -- requiring a premise with no foundation stronger than conclusion it is used to draw), while we already have "raising the question" for the other usage, the language would be the poorer if we stood aside and let this pass into acceptance.
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I think the source of the expression is with subject and object reversed. It is the question that begs to be asked. This is not exactly the same as "raises the question", as it is much stronger.
Shachar
Who is not a native English speaker
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This is not consistent with historical meaning. Please see either or both of the following links, which go into substantial detail:
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I think we can safely assume this is not what the original poster meant.
Like it or not, there IS an idiom in the English language which attributes "raises the question"'s meaning to "begging the question". The interesting question is where that came from, which is not addressed at least by the wikipedia article (it is addressed, but not explored).
Shachar
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the language would be the poorer if we stood aside and let this pass into acceptance.
I'd agree with you, except that it has already passed into acceptance.
Re:everything old is new again (Score:5, Insightful)
Many modern English speakers use "begging the question" to demonstrate their over-reliance on clichés
FTFY
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Many modern English speakers use "begging the question" to mean the same as "raises the question".
Many American speakers use "begging the question" to mean the same as "raises the question". The American and English languages are diverging at an alarming rate.
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I confess that we Americans can be pretty illogical with our language. (We say somebody's "in jail" or "in school" but "in the hospital", that last one sounds really weird to you other English speakers doesn't it?) However, this American never uses the expression "begs the question." It's just too darn unclear. And I've very seldom heard it used by anyone else, certainly not in a day to day conversation. I'll say "raises the question" or I'll say "I don't agree with your implied assumptions", or maybe,
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(Actually, I think they may have used the expression "begs the question" once or twice on Perry Mason, but I don't know if they used it correctly.)
OBJECTION! That's hearsay. Bailiff, whack his pee-pee.
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No, what it means is that the previous fact or statement really begs a further question.
It is not to be confused with begging the question the logical fallacy.
Sell it for monies! (Score:2, Funny)
Sell it for monies!
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But bitcoins value just plummeted!
Post it dude... (Score:3)
Figures (Score:3, Insightful)
Instead of just releasing it, you tease it...announce that you are 'open' to ideas...you're just going to profit off of someone's death like everyone else in the world has. The fact that it was Steve Jobs and it's almost 20 years old doesn't mean you have to actually make money on it...
You didn't use it then, so release it to public domain...Cringley is a profiteering whore.
"and promptly lost" (Score:4, Funny)
Lost what? The video, his mind, his virginity to Steve, what?
Editors: Edit, damn it!
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The Game. He lost The Game. And now, so have I, damn it!
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you can see parts of it (Score:3, Informative)
You can see parts of the interview in Triumph of the Nerds which is available online.
Jobs is much more open and emotional than in more recent interviews. For instance, he talks about Microsoft having no taste and John Sculley destroying everything he'd worked for. This was before Jobs came back to Apple and got his chance to right his earlier failures so you can bet these wounds are still raw.
Re:you can see parts of it (Score:5, Insightful)
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Wait until 2015, when Apple rolls out Jobs-bot 2.0 to present the WWDC keynote.
But maybe I've said too much already...
So, is there anything NEW in there? (Score:1, Interesting)
An interview that just plows the same old ground is worthless; if it yields new insights that others can glean, it could be priceless.
I'm betting it's the former.
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But... Money! Cashing in on someone's death, it's how it's done, right?
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Works for Toby Keith.
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Idea.. (Score:5, Funny)
Autotune it and put some phat beats under it.
Who cares? (Score:2)
About a meaningless interview that isn't even published?
Got the Beat (Score:1)
Re:Got the Beat (Score:5, Insightful)
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Did you come up with the idea independently? If so, you still have a chance to patent it under the new crummy patent law.
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Yeah .. I think so, if you do it properly. Many talentless people are making money off autotune, so I reckon you can too.
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my voice is crap, but I wonder what I would sound like with slick production (including autotune)
this is as opposed to classic stuff you know damn well you can't compare to.
ironically, maybe some stuff works because it isn't as good - folks relate to it better.
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Actually, since the story is about Steve Jobs, the right thing to do would be to sue you for "copying" the other poster.
I feel bad (Score:1)
I feel bad because of all those people who really think that Steve was the greatest. The are so many more people who had much bigger influence to how we use computers today...
Make it an Android only app (Score:1)
That way, iOS users will be upset they can't watch it, and Android users will be upset Steve Jobs is on their platform. Lose-lose for everyone.
Cringely Rocks (Score:2)
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He just seems really full of himself, like he's trying his damn hardest to convince you of his importance. Which is funny because I (along with most of society) had never heard of him before.
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Too early. Wait a bit (Score:2)
Still a bit raw. Wait a couple of years and then release it
Killer idea... (Score:2)
Let IBM's Watson analyze the interview for a while to come out with the killer app for the iPhone 5: Stevie. It's just like Siri, expect now YOU'RE the personal assistant.
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I'll get my coat.
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Can someone ask him if he has an unseen interview with Dennis Ritchie instead?
Unfortunately not - but he did that duet album with Lionel Ritchie back in 1998...
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What's even more interesting is to go further back and compare Mac and NeXT Expo keynote addresses and to watch Mac users applaud the announcement of features which NeXTstep had had for over a decade.
And nothing of value was found. (Score:2)
Just kidding, it's probably interesting enough.
ITunes (Score:2)
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Some ideas (Score:1)
1) Release to laser disc
2) Do that cool effect behind Jobs and Cringely to make it appear as if they're on a roller coaster
3) Add fart noises
4) Give them glowing yellow eyes
5) Have the video playing on four sides of a video cube caught in a giant whirlpool in space
Seriously, needs to be done beyond restoration?
This Shiz Never gets Mentioned ... (Score:1)
``Robert X. Cringely is the pen name of both technology journalist Mark Stephens and a string of writers for a column in InfoWorld, the one-time weekly computer trade newspaper published by IDG.''*
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Cringely [wikipedia.org]
Sarah Jane Adventures. (Score:2)
So... anyone else seen the last two episode of 'The Sarah Jane Adventures'?
Summary (with minimal spoilers): The charismatic head of a tech company releases a new portable computer that's utter crap ("Bog Standard"), but his hypnotic charisma makes everyone love it... I wonder who that was a take on?
The actress playing Sarah Jane Smith, sadly, died after filming that episode.
FFS... (Score:1)
People, can you just get it the fsck over with, and nominate the asshole for sainthood already?
Jesus fscking Christ, the guy made MONEY from technology, and you treat him as the Messiah. Woz did most of the grunt work. Hell, where is the adolation for Kildahl? Babbage? Lady Ada? Jay Miner? "Amazing Grace" Hopper? They ALL toiled to make computers and programming what they are today. Where the fsck are their monuments, buildings, or TV specials?
Just fsck that fscking asshole Jobs...
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Wow, you make it sound like it happens every day.
Well, ok then. Show me another tech manager that did what Jobs did. Actually, show me ten. Since it was so easy and worthless.
The people you list worked on theory. And? Everyone works on theory. Or do you honestly believe that if those people hadn't created those theories, they never would have been made.
Charge $800 for each copy (Score:2)
Don't distribute it on anything but a usb stick. Put it in a small white plastic box, square with rounded corners. Charge $800 for each copy, make an end-user shrink wrap license which forces you to e-sign to activate the video, etc.
That would be the Jobs way, overpriced white commodities.
Oh, but I did eventually liked the iPhone, just not Apple.
Oh Great (Score:1)
Even after his death, he's going to say ONE MORE THING.
Job(s) interview for an hour? (Score:1)
Oh wait, I thought this article was about a job interview that lasted for an hour. Hey in this economy that can't be so bad right?
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However, one should make sure there were release agreements signed by Steve or his proxy, and if not, get permission from the family first.
Umm... why? If you can get away with publishing photos of celebrities nipples without being sued, you can surely post on YouTube an interview which Steve Jobs agreed to have taped with no repercussions.
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If he was filmed for a documentary, he already signed a release.
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wasted that we'll never get back.
And how much time do you spend on Slashdot every day again?