iOS 5 Update Available 473
tekgoblin writes "Apple has released the iOS 5 update. To update to iOS 5 just open iTunes with your iDevice connected to your computer and press update. I recommend doing a manual backup of your iDevice and make sure all your apps are transferred."
umm... (Score:4, Insightful)
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Doesn't the hate and bashing ever get tiring?
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Actually, the site was pretty much the same 10 years ago.
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I'd say the hype depends on the feature in use. The ability for apps to use iCloud for data storage (key:value pairs as well as documents) is nice to have.
As for backups to the cloud, on Android, you have comparable -- just use Titanium Backup and Dropbox. To boot, Titanium Backup encrypts all backups to boot, so if the DB account gets compromised, your app's data is secure.
Realistically, blowing away all hype, iOS 5 gives you:
Scroll down from the task bar, and you get some decent widget-like functionalit
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Correction: Untethered JB. The tethered JB is out (for the iPhone 4, and supposedly the 4S's turn is coming), but not many Cydia apps work with iOS's 5 structure as of now, so it can't hurt to just give it time until iBlacklist, BiteSMS, etc. get updated.
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iCloud for music is excellent. Especially with the service that scans your MP3 stash and allows you to download AAC files on the go. This functionality is something Android lacks.
Perhaps you are unfamiliar with SugarSync? [sugarsync.com]
In fact I would choose SugarSync over iCloud even on an Apple product simply because I can sync/stream to just about any device with a browser although there are native clients for Android, BlackBerry, and iOS devices. They have a free 5GB plan and their $4.99/mo. plan gives you 30GB. I had been using DropBox until I discovered SugarSync.
Re:umm... (Score:5, Informative)
iCloud for music is excellent. Especially with the service that scans your MP3 stash and allows you to download AAC files on the go. This functionality is something Android lacks
Actually, Google has Google Music which does basically the same thing. You just select the files/playlists, etc for "offline use" and it caches them to your device. Or you can just stream it while on the go. Google Music has been available for...uh, 6ish months now.
Also, Google+ auto uploads any taken pictures to your G+ account, set to private, so you can share them at-whim. So, Android has that feature too...again, has for months.
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"Official Android player for Music Beta by Google [android.com]."
"Available in the U.S. by invitation only and free for a limited time.
Request an invitation at music.google.com."
So it's out there but that doesn't seem like a "full" release to me.
Titanium Backup requires root. (Score:2)
Seriously, how do Android fans accept the cognitive dissonance that allows them to complain about anything on the iPhone that requires jailbreaking while ignoring that just to backup an Android phone requires rooting? Which is not only often far more complicated than jailbreaking, but is almost never the same process between any two Android phones, risks voiding your warranty, and loses you certain capabilities like being able to watch movies from the Android Market?
Re:umm... (Score:5, Funny)
I wish you damn whippersnappers would stop using WP7 for Windows Phone 7... I keep having to wonder what the hell Word Perfect has to do with a discussion on cell phones...
Re:As usual, not the first for the basics (Score:5, Insightful)
But Time Machine just rolls it all up to work perfectly with no learning curve.
...except when it doesn't work, ditches your backup volume, and requires a complete new backup. Please stop pretending that Apple technology is more than it is.
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I've never had a problem in years of using Time Machine.
Apple took some basic technologies: inodes in the file system, the Spotlight search and indexing system (to keep track of what's been updated), and put a brain-dead easy to user interface on it. Now you can browse through your backups as if you were browing through your file system. Even better, it enables one-click restore of everything (including user accounts and applications) when reinstalling the OS.
Does it break occasionally? I guess it might. No
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I've never had a problem in years of using Time Machine.
I have. Three times it failed and trashed all the backups. Twice on a remote disk, and once on a non-apple USB drive.
My wife uses an Apple branded USB drive, and has never had a problem with Time Machine.
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Apple don't make a branded USB drive.
I think you were attempting to make a sly point that it only works with Apple stuff, but the only external hard drives Apple sells are the Time Capsules, which are not USB hard drives (and by all accounts, are *not* the devices to use if you want reliable backups due to overheating issues since they are passively cooled).
FWIW I have about 10 or so Macs under my care (my own, and family and friends' machines) with an assortment of Time Machine solutions: my own via FireWi
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I had trouble with time machine. It ended up being a faulty drive that i was backing up to (i.e., time machine would crap out when my backups reached 550gb of a 750gb drive).
But that isn't really time machine's fault.
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I had that happen once, but I edited the dot files that TM uses (located in the root of your backup volume) and was able to get TM to continue on that disk. No history was lost.
It might have a shiny button on top, but underneath it all are still ASCII text files, steeped in the panicked cold sweat of a million UNIX hackers looking for a quick fix.
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It might have a shiny button on top, but underneath it all are still ASCII text files, steeped in the panicked cold sweat of a million UNIX hackers looking for a quick fix.
Which is the power and the failing of things like Time Machine. When it fails for a computer illiterate person, it can fail hard (just look at the Apple support forums). Often the fix is pretty simple, edit a preference file, rebuild an index. Of course, if my mom understood 'edit a preference file' she wouldn't need Time Machine, she could just use rsync.
What I'm annoyed with is that Apple really hasn't gone the extra distance to make the thing *really* bullet proof. The system should be able to restor
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But as usual, the first to make the whole concept work together so well even the average brain-dead consumer has no problem using it to its potential.
Ironically, one major feature - the overhaul of notifications, in form of the new slide-down-from-status-bar drawer - seems to be taken essentially verbatim from Android, with no obvious changes for better or worse.
Is there a technical reason for no OTA updates? (Score:3, Funny)
Is there a technical reason that Apple can't provide over-the-air updates for their devices?
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You need iOS 5 for this lol
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Yes there is, the files are fucking huge!
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Ever hear of wifi?
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No; they just didn't include it in iOS 4 or earlier versions.
However, they have included wireless updating in iOS 5. So once you upgrade to v5 via cabled connection, you'll be able to get future updates over the air.
do they count as part of data pack? roaming? (Score:2)
do they count as part of data pack? roaming? It's would suck to have to pay $19.96/MB for a auto update.
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Why did Apple take so long to do this, after Android has been doing it for years?
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How many Android phones are shipping today with an out-of-date version of Android?
Her Eris isn't even two years old. That's why she's getting an iPhone 4S this Friday.
Re:Is there a technical reason for no OTA updates? (Score:4, Interesting)
When Android became decent: When more than 5 major players in the mobile communications market realized they have a strong, extensible, customizable platform to build a phone on (Samsung, Motorola, LJ, HTC, Sony-Ericsson, etc)
When Android became stable: From personal experience, I've only had to hard-reset my phone twice in the last year. The OS has a few minor inconsistencies, but they're specific to my model and Sprint-customized release of the OS, thus caused by something other than just "being Android"
When Android became something people desire on their phones: Years ago when people realized they could buy a very capable smart phone with features Apple doesn't offer, and not be locked into one carrier or one manufacturer.
Crappy screens: You must have only experienced a small screen on an old phone. At least half the Android phones sold now have resolution and screen size equivalent or better than iPhone's, and some even offer 3D (Which I've played with, and is quite cool)
Netflix must have taken "years" because, like many other vendors, Netflix may have had an exclusivity agreement with Apple for a while, or they're just a slow adopter of technology that's outside of their primary distribution path (Personal computers). I don't remember having any problem using Netflix from within my web browser, anyway, so it's not like the system was completely unreachable from Android users.
5% of the games available for iOS? This is quite subjective. iOS may have 20 times as many games on the iTunes store, but there are still only 50 or so games that dominate both markets, the other 10,000 games get buried in the noise and never take off, so your point is moot.
Most Androids have talk times of 2 hours? [Citation Needed] I've experienced talk time over 3.5 hours on my Samsung, because I was close to a cell tower and had GPS/Bluetooth/WiFi disabled. Conversely, I've known people who've complained that their iPhones had short call times, due to either old batteries that they've been unable to replace, or due to being far from the cell tower. "Most Androids" is subjective and depends on the experiences you've exposed yourself to.
The back button on the Android has completely random behaviour because you must have been using an app that randomly changed its function. In my experience, and the experience of most Android users, the back button does what it needs to do. At worst, it serves exactly three functions: 1) Previous screen within an app, 2) previous page in the web browser, or 3) previous page in a settings dialog. If that's too many functions for you to handle in one button, I'm sorry.
Any changes in behavior caused by the vendor is something you should bring up with the vendor. I happen to enjoy having the choice of what vendor to buy from or what OS version to use. Last I heard, if something in iOS didn't do what you liked or what you expected, you have absolutely no choice to change it or choose another OS vendor. Sorry that you're so bitter about this.
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When Android actually becomes decent and stable, perhaps we will say the same thing about it?
It is excellent and stable.
Perhaps when Android becomes somethign people desire to have on their phones, we will same the same thing about it.
Seeing as it is outselling IOS, I would say that it is something people want on their phones. Certainly more want Android than IOS.
Why do the Android phones all have such crappy screens?
What do you mean? My Evo3D has an awesome screen. Not only is bigger than any iPhone/iTouch screen you can buy, but it also does glasses free 3D.
Why did it take years to get Netflix on Android after it was on iPhone?
Ask Netflix. Why can't I get FREE navigation, like GoogleMaps on an iPhone? Why must I pay for something that Google will give me for free, if Apple would allow me to have it.
Why must I have Apple's permi
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After iOS5 is installed updates will be incremental and over-the-air, so the answer to your question is no, not tomorrow.
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Remember that an update isn't an app download, it's a download of a brand new OS and reflashing your device. This isn't trivial and if it fails it has a good chance of bricking your device. To get the device to handle it properly is harder than having an external app download the update and update the device.
Also, old (iOS4 and previous) updates were a full system image. So you had to download a huge file and find space for it on the device. I think iOS is able to download partial components and update ind
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Because iOS 4 doesn't have OTA updates. Don't you Slashdot people know how to read?
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Why did you enjoy that. There is nothing about it that is funny or unclear...
Some of these updates are stupid.. (Score:3)
While reading the iOS5 features page (http://www.apple.com/ios/features.html [apple.com]), I went down to the "Mail" section and saw:
"Format text using bold, italic, or underlined fonts. Create indents in the text of your message."
Is that really something they should be advertising? Pretty advanced stuff..
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but for a phone application, it's new.
i have a 5+ year old windows mobile phone that could do it.. i don't count that as "new" by any means.
This is advertising (Score:3, Insightful)
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Slashdot should demand 30% from Apple for these advertorials.
30% of what?
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30% of... ten million theoretical dollars!
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We could have gold-plated Cray XT6 servers within the month! No more Guru Meditation!
Good luck (Score:2)
Good luck actually getting it or transitioning to iCloud or anything. Their servers seem to be swamped and unresponsive.
I suggest waiting a day or two just so you have a smoother upgrade process.
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It took me a total of 21 minutes to download the update for my iPhone, iPad and the 10.7.2 update for OSX. I am on a really crappy hotel system. iCloud servers are working great to. If the download are slow you should make sure you are not using google's 8.8.8.8 for DNS, this has been known to screw up whatever CDN Apple is using.
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is OTA really a good thing (Score:2, Insightful)
so are OTA updates a way to kill off jailbreaking for good.
once an exploit is out in the open, congrats you've been upgraded to 5.1 while you were sleeping enjoy.
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Because OTA updates in the Android world have completely killed off rooting, right?
That didn't take too long to fail (Score:3, Interesting)
That didn't take too long to fail. Click on "Update," and it tells me I have to update iTunes. OK, fine, go do that. Computer reboots.
Take 2. Click on update, it downloads the nearly 700MB iTunes update, and makes a backup.
And then crashes, opening an Apple KB article that tells me I have to update iTunes in order to install the update. Er... I already did that?
I'll just uninstall iTunes and ... oh, wait, you can't do that on Mac OS X. You have to follow some magic instructions that involve deleting kernel extensions and rebooting three times. I'll have to look that up and ... oh, hey, Apple's support site now 503s.
Awesome.
Oh, hey, it hard-crashed my phone. I'll just pop out the battery to reboot it, and ... oh, crap. That's right, the Apple official way to restart a crashed iDevice is to let the battery drain. I'd link to the article, but their support site is down.
Re:That didn't take too long to fail (Score:4, Insightful)
Savor your walled garden, secure in the knowledge that because you're not trusted enough to meddle with it, nothing can go wrong. This is, after all, what users want.
Re:That didn't take too long to fail (Score:5, Funny)
Thank you for updating your Apple products. Please rate your upgrade experience:
1. Insanely Great!
2. Magical
3. Innovative
4. Religious Ecstasy
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Somehow, I doubt all of this happened in the last two hours. Especially as crunched as Apple's update servers are right now.
Re:That didn't take too long to fail (Score:5, Informative)
I started downloading before the Slashdot story was posted. It was kind of fun to watch the "time remaining" thing slow to a crawl. The last 15 seconds took a good minute.
Also, small update: turns out the phone hadn't crashed, it was just frozen displaying the lock screen with a time 6 minutes in the past. It eventually rebooted on its own. So at least I still have a phone.
Another interesting factoid: you can't just drag iTunes into the trash to delete it. Mac OS X won't let you. Instead you have to open the Applications folder, select it, and press Command-Delete. (I'm doing the complete reinstall off memory, let's see how well this goes!)
Troll? Re:That didn't take too long to fail (Score:5, Insightful)
Are you trolling? I don't think anything at all you've said in your posts is right?
1) A brand new full iTunes download is 103mb, not 700 as you claimed.
2) I've never ever had to do anything remotely like you claim about removing kernel extensions and rebooting 3 times with iTunes, and in the past month I have bounced forwards and backwards between several beta versions. (b8 -> b9 -> b7 -> 10.5 all worked flawlessly). Just download a new version of iTunes and the installer will upgrade it anyway.
3) I just dragged iTunes to the trash. OSX asked for my password. I entered it. It deleted.
4) If you're not comfortable with GUI instructions and are at all competent with a bash/csh commandline, just fire up terminal and using su or sudo delete to your heart's contact. kextstat / kextunload / kextload can be used to view, load, and unload kernel extensions, but I've only ever had to use those commands when I was developing one. sudo rm -fr /Applications/iTunes.app/ etc
5) Absolutely false what you claimed about Apple expecting a crashed iPhone to just drain off the battery.
I'm afraid I've only fed into your ego honey pot, but whatever...
Re:Troll? Re:That didn't take too long to fail (Score:5, Informative)
1) A brand new full iTunes download is 103mb, not 700 as you claimed.
Oh crap, you're right, that was supposed to read "the iOS update," which is 700MB. I have no clue how large the iTunes update was because I didn't bother watching that download.
2) I've never ever had to do anything remotely like you claim about removing kernel extensions and rebooting 3 times with iTunes
You only need to do that if you need to reinstall iTunes. Which is what the support article for "our update authentication servers are down" tells you to do for some braindead reason.
3) I just dragged iTunes to the trash. OSX asked for my password. I entered it. It deleted.
Only works in Finder. I was trying to do it from the Applications stack in the Dock, because you can do that with apps you've installed yourself. Doing it that way just silently fails.
5) Absolutely false what you claimed about Apple expecting a crashed iPhone to just drain off the battery.
It used to be in there somewhere, for what to do if a hard reset doesn't work. Which, now that the support site is up again, turns out to be holding both the Wake/Sleep button and the Home button for 10 seconds. That's intuitive.
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The last time I tried deleting iTunes, OS X (Lion) told me it was a system component and I wasn't allowed to. Off to Terminal to "sudo rm -rf /Applications/iTunes.app/" I went.
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Are you trolling?
No, he's not. You two aren't looking at the same thing
I don't think anything at all you've said in your posts is right?
1) A brand new full iTunes download is 103mb, not 700 as you claimed.
Oh really? because iTunes was a 78MB download for me. But then there was an additional (almost) 1GB of data for a Lion stability update and a Lion recovery update. So, he's probably counting the entire set of updates
I just dragged iTunes to the trash. OSX asked for my password. I entered it. It deleted.
Lion seems to be very resistive to deleting things. I've had difficulty deleting apps on Lion on more than one occassion
4) If you're not comfortable with GUI instructions and are at all competent with a bash/csh commandline, just fire up terminal and using su or sudo delete to your heart's contact. kextstat / kextunload / kextload can be used to view, load, and unload kernel extensions, but I've only ever had to use those commands when I was developing one. sudo rm -fr /Applications/iTunes.app/ etc
MAC OS just works, right? So why does he need to use the CLI?
5) Absolutely false what you claimed about Apple expecting a crashed iPhone to just drain off the battery.
I'm afraid I've only fed into your ego honey pot, but whatever...
That is true, except when it isn't. I've had my iPhone
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I wasn't annoyed with your post. I just wanted to voice my opinion that he wasn't trying to troll. And I caught his correction about the iOS download being the 700MB. I just assumed that he was counting the entire update because he didn't pay attention (and we all know what happens when you assume).
As for the DFU mode problem, that was with a buggy iOS release. I want to say it was 3.0.1 or something along those lines. That update also happened to turn my iPhone into an egg cooker. For some reason one
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Why the hell would iToonz require a system reboot?
What the hell is it tying itself into? Kernel drivers? OS integration?
I don't remember having to reboot at all after installing or updating any of the following: Microsoft Security Essentials, KLite Codec Pack, Wireshark, Photoshop, VNC, all of which integrate with the OS in some way. What the hell is iTunes doing to my computer?
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"Why the hell would iToonz require a system reboot?"
It doesn't. As a developer, I'd remember if I had to restart for my weekly iTunes beta upgrade.
Making the OP possible troll bait.
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Just install iTunes does not require a reboot. If you installed the 10.7.2 update at the same time , that requires a reboot. I updated iTunes alone last night and no reboot was required.
Re:That didn't take too long to fail (Score:5, Informative)
"That's right, the Apple official way to restart a crashed iDevice is to let the battery drain. I'd link to the article, but their support site is down."
Or you could use the official method of holding down both the home and lock button until it restarts. It'll even restart a crashed device.
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Not so simple... (Score:2)
Not so simple as said in the summary, it requires first updating iTunes to 10.5
Not only that... (Score:2)
Yesterday it was iTunes 10.5, the first 4Ss are delivered and Siri hits the servers back home, now iOS 5 is delivered to millions of iPhones, iPod touches and iPads, OS X 10.7.2 (with iCloud support) is going out right now (all 800 MB of it), an iPhoto update for iCloud, iCloud itself is going online which means the first real traffic for their brandnew datacenters...
If you can joke and sneer about that right now you have never been part of a big critical software rollout. If they can pull through this they
Device compatibility (Score:2)
iOS5 is compatible only with these models:
iPhone 3GS
iPhone 4
iPhone 4S
iPod touch 3rd generation
iPod touch 4th generation
iPad
iPad 2
And ease of use has tanked since Steve died... (Score:2)
Go back to iTunes and try to update the iPad2. No: it says I have to have the latest version of iTunes. Check the version and indeed I'm running an old version. No idea why it downloaded 65MB of iTunes before, but fine, hit software update again. "Your software is up to date". Um, no, it's clearly no
Re:And ease of use has tanked since Steve died... (Score:4, Insightful)
Thanks Apple. It just works- until it doesn't, and then you're fucked because there's no obvious way to fix anything since it's all locked away in the shiny box.
Important tip to preserve email passwords (Score:3)
In iTunes make sure to select "encrypt backups" before your backup, that way a restore will also restore encrypted items like your email passwords.
Update process (Score:5, Informative)
1. Connect iPad to macbook ..Long update process, its 700MB after all... BANG! Your device coul not be restored, internal error occurred. .. bla bla bla all the iPad contents will be replaced by this macbook's library contents. VERY SCARY, but there is no other way as far as I see. Well... OK. .. and all my stuff is __GONE__ ! ..wait..wait..wait...wait.... FINALLY. DONE.
2. iTunes detects iOS 5 is available, I hit update button
3. WARNING! Unsynced items, I am going to delete all your precious apps, do you want to continue? Mind you, I won't offer an option in the dialog that says: "backup my stuff and then continue".
4. I click sync and the system detects that this is a new macbook: "Looks like this is a new, unauthorized device! If you proceed, all your iPad contents will be NUKED! haha!"
5. Cancel and look around for a while trying to find a way of doing the obvious thing.
6. Find the "transfer my stuff" option that warns that only authorized content will be transfered. Duh-huh.. OK.
7. Need to authorize my device, only 3 left. Geee... well, OK..
8. Everything but 4 items get transferred. Not pretty, but good enough.
9. Try to update now: warning about unsynced items persists. Scary, but I go on since step 7. doesn't improve even after trying several times in different ways.
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11. iPad library must be deleted because it can only be synced with one device at a time.
12. Update again...wait...wait...wait... yes, I want to use iCloud, yes I want to use localization, re-enter my apple ID, yes, yes yes a couple more times...
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14. Go to iTunes, explicitly tell it to sync applications, hit sync..
15. Only a few apps have been restored
16. Back to iTunes, manually check all applications that you want to have restored (why are most of them unchecked and not synced by default!?)
17. Sync..
18.
Conclusion: ARE YOU F****** KIDDING ME?
NOT pretty, VERY SCARY.
But in the end it worked (miraculously).
Seriously, why on earth would someone design a syncing process that makes it SO EASY to lose all your stuff? Why not a single step?
Let's hope that OTA updates take this nightmarish process away. We'll see.
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You screwed up on step 1:
1) Upgrade your six month old Apple device, its out of date.
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While I agree that that royally sucks and the process could be improved ... I don't think that's the average experience. For me and my wife (with 4 iOS devices between us) it was:
1. Plug in device. iTunes immediately does a sync and backup automatically (like normal when you plug the phone in)
3. Hit 'Update'
4. Wait as it downloads 700 MB (for the first device only - otherwise it's cached on the HDD)
5. Select 'restore from [previous backup file]
6. Done. Everything is as it was before.
Sounds like your machine
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Is this an appropriate time to point out that I can easily make an independent back up my entire Android device on any computer able to read a micro SD card, in just a few minutes? Without worrying about having "TWO DIFFERENT ITUNES LIBRARIES ON TWO DIFFERENT COMPUTERS!!!!"
Or is this a more appropriate time to point out th
Re:Neat. (Score:4, Funny)
Cue antidisestablishmenterianist Apple apologists in 3...2...
I believe they prefer to be called iPologists.
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As an antidisestablishmenterianist Apple iPologist, I actually agree with you. On one hand, I think the features in iOS5 are pretty impressive. While it is unavailable for the 3G I currently have, and will be pre-installed on the 4S that I will soon have, the news is moot to me. But even if I had a 4, there is plenty of general media and tech blog coverage, let alone the PR coming straight from Apple itself that you'd have to be living under a rock to not know about iOS5 already. Especially if you are the t
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Re:iDevice (Score:5, Funny)
Day terk hiz werb!
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Der turkin iz weeeeerbs! >_<
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Deeer terrrrr irrrr werrrrrrrrrr!
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You should've said...
Thanks iLot.
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Would iT help iF iSaid iSorry?
Car analogy (Score:2)
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Or like any other Major Operating System Update release.
Heck I remember Slashodot use to post every freaking Linux Kernel update. At least this is just a major version update.
It is not like the mercedes SUV's entertainment/nav system. Because of the number of people who use these devices. Not just a select few.
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That's an RDD. A Ron Donald Do!
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It appears to be iRequired. Also a bit iAnnoying.
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Someone needs to lay off of the haterade.
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In a case like that, it can't hurt to just DFU update the darn thing. I always do that when updating between versions, even though it takes time restoring and copying back apps. This way, the device is erased completely and there is no cruft from the previous iteration of the OS.
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Re:I did mine a year and a half back. (Score:5, Informative)
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Really, in a year my iPhone will be all laggy, slow and unintuitive as an Android phone? Guess I'll have to switch to something better by then.
You can talk like Android is bad ass, but anyone who's used both knows your just being a fanboy. Its one thing to prefer one over the other, but when you go off and do things like this everyone knows your nothing more than a mouthy fanboy and you get blown off by everyone except other rabid fanboys.
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Re:hardware requirements (Score:4, Insightful)
iOS 4 runs so craptastically on my 3G that it probably shouldn't have been available for that phone in the first place. There was absolutely no surprise whatsoever that it is only available on the 3GS and better.
At least recent buyers are getting updates (Score:3)
I have an Android phone that was an official software upgrade orphan less than six months after it was introduced. IOS 5 supports hardware a couple years old.
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Nothing official yet:
http://www.apple.com/iphone/business/resources/ [apple.com]
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Wrong Comparisons (Score:4, Insightful)